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what's behind the wise in so called bandit attacks in northern nigeria, gunmen kill at least 200 people, reportedly in retaliation for government airstrikes. can anything stop the cycle of violence? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammer, jim. jim armed groups have terrorized people in central and north western nigeria for years. the so called bandits burned down villages, steel,

cattle and kidnap people for ransom. attacks are on the rise and the government appears to be struggling to stop them. at least 200 people were killed in some forest ate last tuesday. witnesses say gunman on motor bikes attacked 8 villages. the assault appears to be retaliation for military airstrikes a day earlier on, the bandits hide out in nearby forests. separately. security forces in some far i rescued nearly 100 hostages, abducted 3 months ago. the police chief says the operation involved airstrikes and in cabby stayed for the west. 30 students were freed. after 7 months. it's unclear whether ransoms were paid. the violence is rooted in a conflict for land and water between nomadic cattle, herders and farmers who come from different ethnic groups. but criminal gangs have become more involved in the past few years. they've extorted millions of dollars from kidnappings. some security analysts call it the most lucrative industry. in nigeria. the president has labeled the gangs terrorist organizations. this allows

the military to deploy more force, and the government can seek international support to fight the armed groups. ah. all right, let's bring in our guests in a boucher, mike edgy for former director of nigeria states security service in london. billamore mccarty, senior analyst at the tony blair institute for global change. and in coventry ali you mussa independent research are focusing on war and conflict in nigeria. a warm welcome to you all and thanks for joining us on inside story today. bill, i'm a let me start with you. were these attacks by armed bandits in some forest state in response to the air strikes that were conducted last week by the military, against armed bandits? and that's what the military says and nigeria as president jose disappointed attack . but this is the line from government when, if always the attacks night, this has been denied to port over 5 years. but if you said these were desperate

people were under a serious military attack, they much into quite different villages. i oakridge at 448 hours. i would think if they were desperate they should be throwing out their weapons and hiding themselves. not much into villages until in 200 people. and we know that these kids of 200 people is a big number. but the statistics show of that at least 50 people i killed in the northwestern part of nigeria every single week. and this has been the case over the past 1215 months. last year i run in $22.00 into $110.00 and housing ideas where i choose an over 50 percent of them, where today in the north west, and 4 and a half 1000. yes, that is 4500 people were kidnapped. some of them have been released after they have paid ransom, as have been cute, and some are still in custody. even colleagues of decide you students use it on the

top. who that where at least yesterday. 18 as students consisting of 15 girls and 3 boys and i still in custody and they have been costing you $47.00 a month now. so i don't think it is a desperate attack. it is not tied to your tiny attorney. i talked because they were not attacked by the latest, in any case they were attacked by military debts. i'm so if that were a tax on our tax on believe these or do you think terroristic, attached one in, nor sent nigerians that we should not top retired yet. what he or despite mike, the term bandit, is used often to describe these armed groups and their members. but i'm wondering if that term is too simple. if that term belies how sophisticated these criminal gangs are, how powerful they have become. i wonder if you could dissect for our audience. who exactly are these bandits?

i mean, who makes up these groups and how did they emerge? issue the box with all of that knowledge or do more work. you must novels she drew a go. for doctors, you by a to at least this is a because so much with that for me to do star rocky all a so i would rather do this. i don't that i think the go is not on.

do you recall that a similar us to go so you my right, you abuse or a woman with a a a, i will return it. you know? because we are you sure who's are in assistance ally you, you heard mike there talk about the fact that there was just last week that the government has designated officially these armed groups. these bandits as

terrorists to the government says that this is going to enable them to go after these groups in a more efficient manner to go after the groups to go after their sympathizers. do you think that's the case? do you think this designation of these group, these band it as terrorists will actually improve the situation? what i think i calling them to is something was actually belated arm from day one. this guy who has tiro is the government shouldn't have which a dis long to call them or they are, they have always been terrorist. and let me add to what? so my colleague make a year for just some of them. ah, what we need to understand about this group of criminals is that some are we need

to understand that there are 3 categories of criminals because a fall on the bondage who are political criminals because you criminals in the sense that are in many of them i have not really to do away from from us head as a crisis. there were things that i had been used by politicians and now being don't or for being used as pro, exists. this has been confirmed by, by, by even the governor of the states who is presently helpless. and he's seeing that yes, there are strong politicians. why is and then imagine one of the bringing us to g. he's there is causing

a lot of me him in the states where he can be arrested. he is responsible for, for 40 killings of over 200 people in a boss on the boss. do a bench, but she can be arrested don, this is one set of the creaminess. other set of the criminals is a google for the, the, the, the, the, the head us. now eliza people that originally had problems with the families. so you can understand that that's a part of the program, cited bitching, look at form a clash between the pharmacy and the headers. and because there was no gov men's intervention at the beginning, that continued on to where we're at to day then day is also a movement of criminals from the not is who originally where ah, book a her on terry's. and they moved on from the ne,

down to the enough worse because the government strategy of dealing with the terrors enough west was not properly fil sims. kerce. it in the sense that whereas when you are fighting korean us you have to do would be it's in such a way that wouldn't you despise them. you don't let them. i mean, we fight. thanks. don't let them just pass all you melisha that. i'm sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you, let me get back to you in just a moment on, on that point that you're making right now. i do have a question about the 1st i want to go to belong. because while i'm at, you heard ali, you, they're talking about some of the historical roots of the conflict that we're seeing play out in northwestern nigeria. this violence seems to be rooted in conflict for land and water between nomadic cattle, herders and, and farmers. and i want to ask you more about that if you could walk our viewers to a bit of the history of this conflict and how it's playing out. and if you think it's only going to be worsening, at least in the short term. yeah, i mean the,

the conflict originally started as a farmer, had a crisis and cut to roughly and that is because there was the competition of us cost with lan source in the northwestern part of nigeria, but also across the country. i remember growing up in the north, east or west in these conflicts. i read in their heads when it is rainy season where you have a had to buy it. but then, like i said in the course of time, then can you minutes into incited themselves into the field and they to go with the whole crisis in the north west, especially in the last 10 years or so. i'm what we saw was this growing business of kidnapping food. i'm some and as you sit on the top is the most lucrative industry in nigeria. today it is the biggest business given the largest amount of profit you can think of. now then, of course, that was in the tradition by book what i'm fight as, but that's a b 2 portion of what we are talking about,

what we are talking about in the northwest d. i estimated a group of an estimated 30000, you know, divided by 100 guns. and what they do is to kick not people been down villages and i completely agree with that that there's a commission is known about you. they should have been designated long ago, but even now that they have been designated, except the government take steps and treat them like it is a problem, have got to be a part of nigeria. mike, are these at bandits? are these armed groups in any way linked to boca hiram's or has vocal horan infiltrated them in any way? well, it cannot be fully stablished with that my colleagues said, you know, with the dispassionately, barclays, the tendency for them to move to do with others. douglas,

i mean. ringback in addition to you now, our lease with divorce, especially with foresters, now more support. i'm her dad. i'm calling because of the rational feed. i did use a molecule, our community, more money to buy it. like you said, you can see meal or these buttons. so the, this is what, this is possibility that those are the increase is true. but with this new maslow be this. they did their orders. i to go to go out. i'm sure what you saw the marcy alley you, you were speaking moment ago about different criminal elements and how the

government is combating them. i. i also want to ask you a little bit about boca her rom in combating boca her rom in going after boca her rom, has the government essentially dropped the ball. busy when it comes to going after other criminal gangs, or other bandits in different parts of the country. well, i don't think really ah, so much we've been don't believe in the case um at this our criminal enough space in the northwest are particularly if you look at what is happening right now in our state of like i mention, i have mentioned. ready the case of 2 of you who is a criminal there. unlike my colleague lama has mentioned, we have a lot of streaming us there. the most christian business to day in a year is keep nothing for us. so you can imagine people nigger seats in which criminals every day google is asking for millions of millions of narrow tu, tu, tu,

tu, tu? to release human against. under dogman is watching. in some trusted alone. they impose taxes on really just people who haven't got money. somebody will have to go out and won't look for money in the c g to current p. creaminess. but government is watching rick. so i, what i'm saying is the government calling them terrors would not change anything or less, the changing our strategy of discriminate yet new. she can just go there and bond them out from the air. and then without really putting, i'll go. so just to make sure that that whole lease is tight and you have to soon whole lease and stop them from getting out wilma, because what is happening? go ahead alley, you sorry? yeah. what is happening is that when you want to place on you live and get house

you, i and in the village just more because you are letting them good to come back and i talked to villages and then you called and you call that desperate retaliation. no, that shouldn't be happening. mama, let me, let me ask you to pick up on a point that aaliyah was making there. you know, it's been reported that in recent weeks, nigerian military has increased air strikes on forest hide out in parts of csm for is there any evidence that they have been effective? i mean, it is true that the nigerian military has increased escalated strikes, but we also know that this criminal up over the years mustered the, the, the, at a strikes. and i didn't believe that he has been striking booker, i'm 4 by 6 years now. in fact, about 8 years now, but book one of these do a book in the north eastern part of nigeria and in the north west, we have seen military strikes, for example, in the 1st quarter of last year. that's 2021 in calhoun i did than i did

a military rent gas right for 3 months. and in their honor to put in the government report, they said in the 3 months they did ask for a cute, only 67 criminals, 67 of packing of 30000 criminals. we know that they are must have it ready as strikes and the military would come and re bombs and then leave the area only for them to get out of the jungles. i talked in austin nigerians and the fact that the military with rows of douglas strikes this night we have seen in this i thought we are talking about where over 200 people where today you know that it is ineffective . you have got to get on the ground as i mean corporation, but also there is need for a better cooperation between that julia and new jersey public. because we know that when that once not major military on slots, the criminals have found

a way of lean that g d s. did you turn into new jersey? probably only for them to return to the military. us finish western, it's a resources. and so it is not effective and you is clear that it hasn't been integrity. mike, from your vantage point, as the former director of nigeria state security service, let me ask you, do you believe that the scope of the military operations as they are playing out now are too narrow and that in order for them to be effective going forward, they really need to widen them out and cover more territory, especially for his territory where these bandits and these armed groups may be hiding out is. ready good to you so, so you see how it goes to approach to these are ones like i say, you don't, you know,

monday the boat does it. i think it will be spotted on the, on the a will coming off walk because that's the problem. because b with onto the retreat you too, because for hulu or i don't who's so you are a well, what if you, if you use that to use for this war is the want to walk to grandma's. you from a part of the summer ali you how do these various types of attacks and the types of kidnappings that have been going on?

how have they impacted schools and students in different communities and how have these attacks impacted trade routes as well? well, i left, we knew right from the days of vocal her, i'm up until now schools have been the targets. we know schools have been attacked in the past and we know how much schools and presently are being attacked. students get now as we speak. now, there are students, so from our back to school in kaduna that i have been in t v t for probably 3 months going to 4 months or so. there was a and the slimy, a school which is so that they're just like, kinda got that were taken away and they were in captivity for, for more than 3 months. nobody could even pay the ransom and get them out. they were there for several months. some of them died there as, as we speak,

there are schools that there are students are from the one a institution kind of like the name that we're good now i'm done. they were did, they are still there as we speak. so it is a major problem. when you send your children to school, you get worried, what is going to happen to them? they get killed where they get kidnapped. a number of students of the university is on their way to university, on their way to screen university troops of school trips. they gets weighed by the screaming us and taking away a number of times, bombs go off and they get to. and so we remember the story and our deduct your story is what happens in the case of book were harmed and disc is not a city. so what i find very difficult to understand is why the screening us are doing this. i can schools, but then when you look at each booker,

i'm really succeeded in number of years book or how was trying to write is currently name on the world map. it could have sucks it even after one been do you and built in. but then it's succeeded easily by getting into the book. so school by i take your school by me can schools and students victims. i think that you can easily draw international attention. so school, it's very easy to understand why schools can be affected and in terms of treat economy, i'm not as being affected significantly. ah, business, this have been cripples particularly this time us. and we can loss have is most of the time they will have to pay taxes in cause of their money goes on. then when they can look at it, when it, if they're unable to pay those taxes, it means the whole of the clubs that have been that i g for have this thing. they

get wished it under. that means there is no crops for the next season. being sold and her loan money is wasted and in business roots are blocked completely because when you on the way you try to travel, you get i, you end up in their hands and these are minus people. yeah, this is other you happen to enter all the you. i'm the alice. i'm so sorry to interrupt you. we are starting to run out of time lama. my last question to you. i want to talk for a moment about the survivors of these attacks of the most recent attack in some far and previous attacks as well. do we know how many people have been left homeless, or are they able to receive the necessary help and aid that they need me? just how traumatized are these populations by what they've been through. i mean, the population is highly traumatized and we are talking about children who have spent months of the hands or i behind or or if it in some goes i read in the name

or forced marriage and then when they returned back to the communities, there is hardly any social, i mean psycho social support or mental support that is given to them. we also know that in just once, did some parents did that? about 700000 internally displaced people. and that is no come to shelter them as northwood nor meditation. and so people are just sleeping on the roadside and what we're gonna do, i mean, this is human beings shouldn't be snipping, especially in this by, by to winter. and so you have that, but schools about $500.00 schools and i now shut down in somewhat a days. no primary school was the country school that has opened in the last 5 months. but the same thing is it is because across other northwest them, it's when schools shut down and in the north eastern part of nigeria. and so that

you didn't, children, especially more than that. you didn't, children i left behind when other children across the world. and in that julia, i getting educated, you know, i'm, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but we have run out of time, so we're gonna have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much to all of our guest, mike at your for plumber mccarty and ali mussa and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time visiting our website, al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle it at a j inside story for me. mm hm. mm hm. jerome, in the whole team here. bye for now. a ah. and

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