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has never been like this, may god free from keep us safe. if it breaks, it will hurt money. people below there are 5 cities down there that will be harmed . indigenous communities in the state, struggling with them. with depletion, it's very sad feeling. one of heartbreak to see this community in such a state. if it were up to me, i would never return here my heart is bleeding. at the moment they using a local school as a shelter all over the state of is a suffering too, and desperately hoping that the rain stops john home and i'll do it. i got a quick check of the headlines here and i'll just say are inflation in the united states has increased levels not seen in 40 years with a price defective, almost everything, but just by consumers and businesses. whitehouse is blaming global supply chain disruption due to the pandemic. but inflation is a growing political risk for the democrats,
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as republicans continue to blame stimulus measures over here in the economy. when it comes to something like the supply chain challenges, those manifested more significantly than people were anticipating over the course of the summer and early fall both because of covert factors, but also buying behavior of major retailers and major freight movers. and so we went into action over the course of the fall to try to help address those issues. and the, the bottom necking we were seeing at ports made very significant progress on that. 40 percent decline in the amount of time that container is sitting at the dock. the world health organization says of a 15000000 people contracting coven 19 during the past week. it's the highest ever figure during the pandemic. a double h o says the number of deaths is also rising. in the u. s, the number of people in hospitals has gone up by as much as 33 percent and deaths by that 40 percent in the past week. help officials expect the cases driven by
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omicron to peek in the coming weeks. the british prime ministers facing growing pressure to resign after admitting that he attended our garden party in downing street during the lockdown in 2021. or as johnston says, he thought it was a work related event. he apologized to the nation on wednesday. you're not an asian says, it needs nearly 4000000000 dollars this year to help the victims of the civil war in yemen. the un estimates, 13000000 people are at risk of starvation. it's calling on iranian back to the fighters and the saudi that government to negotiate an end to 7 years, a conflict. a high stakes meeting between russia and nato over ukraine has ended without a breakthrough. the head of nato says he would not allow moscow to veto ukraine's wishes to join the block. so those were the headlines to these continues here now to 0 after the stream said you have to watch it. i cannot fill out a wild alarm. we listen,
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a zionist, are making serious efforts in order to in key and to stop the time we meet with global use maintenance and talk about the stories that amazon hi, anthony ok. and you're watching the stream today. we had to cassock star where a fuel hike at the beginning of the year, turned into demonstrations that escalated into widespread unrest. what brought so many people out on the street? that's part of our program today. earlier we spoke to jonas, cause i jim who covered the protest in our mattie, and this is what she told us, trying to people that i've spoken to, at least in on lottie. they all told me that they have seen horrible scenes of gluten robbery and violence strung their buildings or on the streets. and for
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sure, it was the 1st time they've weaknesses. and many who are sitting at home told, told me that at night there was no presence of police or anyone to make them feel secure and safe. this protests have been remarkable in terms love showing their anger and frustration of regular cousin, people who use their current, socio economic and political situation during our conversation today through gas or from kazakhstan, bata asked, sell, and ambassador i, she could buy it. so good to have you here with us, i'm going to get you to introduce yourself to our global audience. but a ye start, tell them who you are and what you do. my name is bertha jim ali. i'm a lawyer and the human registry under, in the political out to east. i'm originally from cause i stand, but now i live in belgium, brussels, where i received political us. i will get to have you on board. i sell. welcome to
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the stream. please introduce yourself to have us. thank you so much. my name is a cell that low, and i am an assistant professor in international relations and political science at nearest university in northern cyprus. and i write about kazakstan, i am from alex dun, and particularly my research focus is on paradoxes of other it's aaron power. the rules are rules versus governance and the description of a new type of systems, electric energy that have evolved after the $99.00 days. a basta welcome to the stream. good to have you on board as well. please introduce yourself to our international audience. oh, my pleasure. thank you so much for having me. i'm your son, ashburn muscles, kazakhstan, delighted stays. if you are watching this program on you cheaply can comment on it, you can ask. i asked questions. he just put your comments into the comment section
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. i do my best to involve you in the show as well. i guess i want to start with reflect. this takes us back to january. the 5th. he was protesting. this is what he had to sam. interested in your reaction. let's take a look. put her what up the a journalists and bloggers, lots of versions of what happened here have been told you must understand what has happened here. the coiled spring has now been unleashed after 30 years. look, all of us have been fired upon. all of us went through these things, but none of us want to kill or put pressure on another person. please come here and see it with your own eyes. we show you the face of a new country and you should witness it. we cassock, people have patience, stop it, we're sick about it. look so deserve advancing here. let them see it all. stay with us and let's see where it goes. what he missed, i mean, or to look at me another. so what was he said? i was there lots of versions of what happened here. i want to hear version from inch. if you very briefly in the shape of i'm just gonna say give, i'll give you
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a headline, butter voter. what was your get may a started because you showed a protester, promo, marty in the sexually ones. if you for january, by the actual is a protest started on the 2nd of january and it started from a small town in monkey style region of garza started. so oil producing down old, you know, is it? and then it's the protest. a started spreading or was a country, and this is very important to us to say that the projects were very peaceful, very peaceful and very quickly, economic demands turns into political demands and the people on the streets, people which were trying to reach the main squares in there we were just in every are in their seat is a man squares in front of the seats, you holes and are to say is a demand. so basically were they, they wanted to have for gym change, and then on the few for a january,
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it's really a big crowd buys a few from junior we had protest. oh, that spread over 260 or 60 citizens. they were just around cause us on. if you look at the map of casa a country, we show our audience what you're talking about here. that was, of course, just one process and a focus on like, i wanted to get your idea of what happened. so this is, has it some protests across the country and you can see where those orange spots saw all of the protest, not just in one place, but in many places i elsewhere headline boat, i'll come back to you. i. so can you give us a headline for your understanding of what happened? so basically i think the grass with protests that were happening were kind of stolen by some kind of violent bond bandits. and unfortunately, the government story that tells us that these were foreign trained. a terrorists is not really making sense,
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particularly because in the story in order to prove the point trained terrorists that basically the government said that they showed the face of that participant who was a famous jazz musician in this get a who under torture, had to confess that he actually did it in order to escape basically for free and have freedom. on the other hand, you have also the, the in this, in the government story of the idea that we can find is 20000 terrorists that actually started to shoot at the school. civilians are and protesters. and in response to that, the government basically said that, well, it's because of the terrorists attack the more and to control. so that's why we cannot find them. so they're, they're this ridiculous explanations that actually academic community and anybody
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actually watching classics done with big questions in mind. i mean what, what exactly who exactly what his band is and how come they were organized? and because as a result of that, the peaceful protests were actually stolen, i mean the really out of the, the whole that grassroots solidarity now is silenced with 10000 and the rest of people who without the names because we just know the number in the still don't know the name, so let's if we can get some, i don't really, i would like to help very high from my because i have to share this conversation with we get to come back to you. i'm. i'm back to, can you give us some clarity about the initial price hike, the fuel hike, that spot, the initial demonstrations, and then how they escalate it. and then how you solve the issue? of course, so my son is definitely a part so far and global economy. and what we've seen in our guys, gas prices in europe, definitely affected tasks done. so ah,
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the spike in the prices of out the g ah, provoke so sir treatment those public responses. and sir, let me point out from the very beginning that the government has no issue whatsoever. was peaceful protest us. in fact, the initial protests were peaceful and when forestman took no action against them, it was not until certain groups turned violent and serve as a sale told her. so all those saw crossville r o protests ah, the government, sir, and let me point out this. so precisely, the government jumped in and engaged. we are, are well aware of the concept of listening, stayed by president archive. and so the government reacted to those legitimate i, i, on the line legitimate protests or, or the population 1st and western parts of classics done. tapping the price of lpg,
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cutting the price of futility. costs are of socially important goods of jazlyn. and sir, ah, all those sir, ah, actions by the government were implemented. so almost the next day ah, was protest started on january the 2nd and then on the 4th there was a decision by the government and i just mentioned and law enforcement agencies. and this also should be underlined. we're instructed and we're acting with utmost restraint. so regretfully, due to the stigmatized use and stereotypes, media coverage is not accurately reflecting the facts on the rounds and left me. i see said sir, this is an article and from new york times, not to play. i knew that when we can google it, don't worry about it, jack,
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january 7th, yet a dish of h, a 8 her bottom of the page and it says a television image of kazakhstan, security of catholic security forces, beating demonstrators in our marty on wednesday. and so i quit why the quote in the new york times on al jazeera are just very symbolically very simple. the new york times is known as a world class, responsible journalism. i. i am not going to engage with new york times article, but i am going to engage with what we're talking about right now. as i mentioned, if i can use mix, in example from out of the i'll be very happy, but i'm not gonna engage with the new york times. i will come back to you is that spring. let's bring us up the day i hear what you're saying. you, you've been clarity from the government's perspective. what do these protesting escalation of the protests starting with the fuel, hiking and asking for so much more. tell us about context um, now,
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not generally the thing, but now oh to isa. yeah, this is those quite a bit about cause us done because because our sound was like a cooking pressure, right. this is people started with guy gas. i only because it was the last straw. so basically people fed out whizzes existing for 30 years clipped. chuck tried to get for retarded, and resume was really all absence of political freedoms was a total monopoly, or a nozzle buys. and he's famous, like kind of the ruling elite all over both alisha go system n z a economy in even when we discuss the gas prices. and then busted or refers to the kind of international demand and supply. but this is the issue and guys, us and got us on is a guy as an oil producing country. but the monopoly over as a whole separate isn't that hands on noted by
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a son in law. so go pre in softball and got to move really by, and they controls the prices and guys us on when they say that this is market control, no, actually the sell our natural resources and the market price internationally. but at the same time, the bankers and casa stock, they receive salaries extremely low. all right, that's it, that's a good point for me to jump off on our audience. i'm watching on youtube. i invited them to ask questions. this is, tom shot, a master. i'm gonna ask you to respond to this very briefly comes at his watching us right now because it's on the level of poverty over 60 percent, with the income, maybe around $70.00 to $90.00 for the whole family. the protest is not just about the price of gas, the protest is about poverty and against. then that's why jeff family as a by death was the long term president, the 1st president of cause it's dawn from 1990 to 20. 19 that, that some tenure,
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please go ahead and best. let's be career. statistically. we are, we can refer to any so speed. well, bank or united nations, sir, ah, the level of how much in kazakhstan is relatively high, but no one would ever say about 60 percent. ah, the income of the family, so talking about $7080.00 isn't nonsense for the entire family. as of this year, the minimum wage is raised 260000 tang. yes. which is $150.00, at least. and sir, ah, consequently all b r pensions everything is raised her. and so of course there are issues. of course we need to address certain social are concerns of the population and this is exactly what president intends to do when i reported her mentally asked and ask every one to take attention to ah,
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take attention to her. he is state of the nation, almost state of the nation address, yesterday's address in the parliament when or where he put forth a number of initiatives designed to support the long term will be of that people cost extra. but here's an, can i just have a great interrupt, i'm sorry. like if we look at that official statistics then? absolutely. this is so, but i think the world banker calculates there. if you li, calculate the level of oversee basically, and they mean the salary, the, the, the, the nature of, of the salary based on the mean. and then you can see that these 2 are very similar to the level of poverty. and in addition to that, i think even a present the guy has actually overly said that we have been calculating the amount of poor people by calling them different names like some as i and they're like self employed or partially employed. i and i think this needs to be really revealed
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because i don't think this is something i mean it's a problem that needs to be yes rather than he then i, you know, as with all due respect are we can not operate with figures like 60 percent already in kazakhstan, ah, less be honest with the audience, with our sales statistically, kazakstan has certain problems with wells distribution. we're not ignoring them. and as a government, there is a firm commitment on the part of person talk. i've and administration now to a even more attention to social protection of the population. please, sir, as a scientist, as a social scientist, please, to pay attention to those words and be careful with the statistic i was telling that 60 percent, or whatever 60 percent poverty in kazakhstan is nonsense. i also wanted to show our order may not be deeply into the knowledge of what cost plan has in terms of wealth
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. it has a lot of wealth or hedge oil, wealth, natural resources. i'm. so there's a discrepancy between the wealth that has exxon has and then maybe the lifestyle of people who are living in catholics on that there's definitely a gap there. i say, let me bring in another voice. this is dr. i, shan shushing nova a researcher at the o. s. c e academy already. now we're looking at the aftermath of these demonstrations these protests. and this is what she tells us about her analysis going forward for catechism the missed or fable cause i found is old for we have seen the answer for tons of bias in europe. we have potentially seen the birth of a new or to cross in the region. cassim jim, up to cost, cause i've never been seen again. however, a lot for the found on the so we to so the cars are some, has enough wisdom to talk to the people of color found and to address the probably
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grievances or it will follow the same or destructive path of shrinking the phase for any descent and creating further when he calls he between the reach and the core in this or which country. so bota in 2019 the new president of catholics dom went on a listening to listening to the people of catholic st. on. have you seen the benefits of that listening tool? no listening stations, at least state is another, you know, window dressing concept that the regime created after mass protests that took place in a june of 2019 after the store. the presidential elections in which are the current president and a kind of became the president and he's basically in a new or existing dictator or so down as a wife. and i have to kind of out a clarify that lucel donna's are both. also,
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he resigned from his position as a prison. he still on my intensive control was the country and his position and as the leader of the nation. and this is the constitutionally a given position for him. and just one quick thing. so talking about, i think it was wonderful listening to their status, you show like a diploma. talking about statistics and guys i stand, but i think that what you've seen on the streets of cars i saw this is actually was a response to 8 archive are listening stage concept. be all the promises of the reforms that we've been listening for 30 years by just empty, empty promises. and i it see it's a is just what would i believe that is a right now it's the government, the starting owns the raw food. it was people because they would they do it instead of really addressing the issue they now started wiring about in a regional was a protest nature of the protest out. this is why we really have to return to the
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issue of this international interference or internationally trained terrorists that are, we're a blade for, ah, for the shooting industries was a huge. and so there were a free types of protest or on the streets or phone market, a really, jay and young peaceful protesters as people, as. and i personally know really as have you seen, the last seen is 3. and then we had looters and they were organized by the state. they were sent specifically to describe the process and suggest defies the use of fire arms against the protesters. and then the tables r o b boys. yeah, of course we had some kind of marginal high, so he about to this is where we started. i'm going to route, i'm going to move, push us on a little bit further because those protests were a few weeks ago. and now i'm looking at the off them of i would have been impressed him. took, i have to talk about how he views what happened and that tut tories, a,
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she really helps us understand what is going to happen. he has a son. next, let's take a listen. let's take a look. so low. she real big la la, the main aim of those who joined the protests has become obvious. undermining the constitutional order, destroying the governance institutions and the seizure of power. we're talking about a coup attempt. it's obvious now that all these actions were coordinated from the same center, a well prepared operation that reached a crucial phase simile tain, use attacks on buildings of regional authorities, law enforcement bodies detention facilities, strategic sites, banks, a t re tower, and t. v. stations have demonstrated that early offer to use your beaker and bustle, the involvement, all rasa in quelling the demonstrations means that we're not talking about current protests, but as you go forward in kazakhstan and you're looking at maybe reforms
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a, how do you satisfy your citizens? what is only agenda today, but thank you for this question, but 1st and foremost, let's be very precise in our our statements. it's not russians, it's c s t o r r. peacekeepers, peacekeeping food stamps were dispatched on the crowns in the keratin tortilla organizations where it'll either me is a regional body. thank thanking for it. they have additional or which we're not talking all about russian peacekeepers. troops on the ground, but also bout armenian bill, russian and congress and tantric, if i'm not mistaken. so ah, the agenda, our 4th is definitely identifying by president. archive is a new as extern. we are very much intended to address all the concerns of the go off the ordinary people. are we are going to address discrepancies in economic
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system, or is them openly said about sir? dissatisfaction was a legal police, sir, with monopolistic are stances in different areas. and he also did declared that, sir, it's time for there are much more fear and just wealth redistribution. so people, sir, well b is sir, ah, equally much so the economic growth should translate into actual, our benefits for ordinary citizens. so that's the main idea of his program. when we go to christina, silver and silver research fellow, she's talking about the takeaway from what happened. just recently his when it comes to the intervention of the rush, lead collective security treaty organization. it has a huge impact on how russia is perceived, both in the region and globally, russia with a new leveraging cossacks,
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them where its influence has been eroding and the last couple of years. and that leverage could accelerate integration with in russia. lead organizations like the, your asian economic union. so in a way, i see more school as one of the potential we nurse of this conflict. even if, especially if this is your mission, would not result in anything asked lasting and concrete as a permanent military base for example. so i guess i'm gonna go to you to one more time because it's a really good, really good question here. and this is what you might now says, what outcome do you believe is the most likely result? we at the very last minute of the show. so i'm going to get you to do this in a single sentence. as you start out, they are coping the genuine, the forms by creating various welfare packages and therefore buying
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out the loyalty of the majority of people. i'm out about the political reforms. this is not sustainable and not sustainable. i rotate your sentences, want yes, human rights defender, i have to say that right now would we be seen cause a stands our math to mass? is it massive, massive, krista, q sion or i civil society activities or are peaceful protesters? i promise not to prosecute them. thank you both to an ambassador, you have the last sentence in the shall, thanking. thank you so much for having all of us. what catholics done has demonstrated tips to resilience. it's with stant, this stress test, and there will be a new cadillacs done much for all on to the world and very much committed to its all its international obligations, including the one to lambaste. ok. thank you. tell. and thank you, bolter, as well as i think the protest a set up in the beginning of the show. lots of versions of what happened in kaz
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