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a 0 after today's inside story coming up next. ah, ah, the political crisis engulfing the british prime minister keeps on growing. boris johnson is under pressure to resign, but will he? and what are the implications of i'm sitting a prime minister in the u. k. and what could it all mean for british politics? this is inside story. ah . hello and welcome to the program. i'm danny navigator. britton's prime minister
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boys johnson has been defying calls to quit over a lockdown violation scandal. johnson attended parties in his downing street residence while the rest of the country was being told to isolate or pay hefty fines if they bro covered rules. but he said he won't step down over the so called party gate scandal. and johnson faces the prospect of no confidence vote among m. p . 's. in the coming days, one m p from johnston's conservative party has defected to the opposition, and others are reported to have already submitted letters of no confidence. ne barker sent this report from london. oh, in a highly charged atmosphere for ministers, questions began with another major body blow for boris johnson news. one of his m. p. 's, christian wakefield had defected to the opposition party. of course, this following morning, newspaper reports of a widening plot to oust johnson by members of his own party jokes to the prime
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minister's expense followed. i see the very noise on until the chief whip was told to bring their i'm bruce ha salvo off to silva. like way nobody told the prime minister. he was breaking his own rooms. absolutely pathetic. if he had any shred of compassion for all those had them separately. they said he'd go, i am peace clamoring for explanations. with johnson about the increasing catalogue of rule breaking policies that took place under his watch when the country was deepened, locked down, for the prime minister, seemed energize fighting tooth and nail for his party. and his job. when the history of this pandemic comes to be written and the history of the labor party come to be written a bunny, me, they are history main history because he will show emotion able show that we delivered while they did and we,
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we vaccinated while they vacillated. mister speaker, i am intensely proud of what this government has done and call off to call for johnson to resign was met with the same message to reserve judgement to wait for the result of the inquiry into a growing list of rules breaking. mister speaker, when a prime minister is spending his time trying to convince the great british public that he's actually stupid, rather than disowning every time that he go now, eh, but his voice is from his own policy. the could do the most damage to his political future, m p. david davis wants the teresa may governments, chief president, negotiator delivering this surgical strike like many on these benches, osman weeks and months defending the prime minister against often angry constituents. but i expect my leaders to shoulder the responsibility for the actions i take yesterday. he did the alyssa, so i'll remind him of
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a quotation altogether too familiar to him of layaway murray to neville chamberlain . you sat there too long for all the good you've done. and the name of god, god was for the full force of grand boris, back on the show. and despite the promise good plan, b code restrictions will be slash from next week. this was a bruising day in parliament for the prime minister, seemingly impossible for him to escape all the growing anger within his conservative party and with the results of a potentially damaging inquiry just around the corner. forest. johnson's days in office could soon be numbered. ne broker al jazeera, westminster. so an official, an inquiry is investigating several cases in which johnson and his downing street staff are accused of violating lockdown rules. in may of 2020 a leaked photo shows, boris johnson and his wife, along with 20 of his staff in the downing street garden,
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eating cheese and drinking wine. again that same month, a leaked e mail reveal staff were invited to the same garden for drinks. 40 people are believed to have attended. in november of that year, the british media reports that 50 people, along with the prime minister, had drinks to mark the departure of one of his aides. a month after another lease photo show stopped sharing drinks and food at the conservative party headquarters. and again, that month, johnson was photographed sitting between 2 staff members at a christmas zoom quiz. 3 days later, another party was held in downing street according to british media. and then last year, 2 parties are reported to have taken place in april. the night before the funeral for prince philip. that was while the country was in a period of official morning, will downing street has apologized to the queen. ah, let's discuss all of this with our guest. joining us from london as john pete, who's the brick set and political editor of the economist in full curve. julian
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mackay's, a member of the scottish parliament on member of scott. his green party, also in london, was to buy rahman, who's the managing director for europe at you razor group. welcome to the program. thanks so much for joining us on inside story julian mckay. if i may start with you, the prime minister has said that he's taken responsibility for his handling off the downing street parties and insist that every one should wait for the findings of that official inquiry being conducted by su gray before reaching any sort of judgment. but you are calling for the prime minister to go. are you saying that he needs to go now? and if so, tell us why. the prime minister should have gone at the stock, had this scandal and prime minister and those in his inner circle. clearly think that above the rules as easily dated beach, the rules several times repeatedly and deliberately. they've tried to cover it up and some of even been caught laughing about it. and it's no laughing matter for those of us who've lost a loved one. getting the pandemic bought us johnson. it's completely unfit to be
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prime minister, and it is beyond time for him. to go, but why don't you wanna wait? sure. why not just wait for the report that that's due out. so we understand. next week i think he is now beyond reproach. to be perfectly honest. is excuses of changed consistently. his death almost certainly misled parliament. we've got calls from his own back benches to resign and to deal with haired from a senior and m p of allegations of black meal. again, the m p 's who would undermine johnson. so i think we don't really need to wait for something that was already admitted to the prime minister himself is admitted that he was at that party, but didn't know that it was a party i. he would have known that that was the numbers of people alone was breaking the rules. so he really is trying to type by playing stupid rather than playing deliberate. and then all right, john, what's your take on this?
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i mean, some of these are saying that they are still waiting for this report is not going to be the next key moment here is going to be the next key move. and i think there was a point on tuesday of this week when it looked at this enough concern and say, we've had it with an up with johnson. and we're worried that we're going to leave the next election and lose many of our seats. and they've been looked at if they're on the verge of calling for a confident. but i think after yesterday, the mood has changed a little bit. we're saying, let's wait for this report. see how bad this report is. and in particular, see if this report says that or it stops and concludes the bars off, misled parliament if that happens, i think there will be a competencies. so the next big point is indeed the congregation of the report. but even if you get through that, i think the moved in the party is that they're very worried. that bar starts and the last the competence of ages and is taking the conservative party into a position where they may lose the next selection and done the prime minister,
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admission and apology in the common that it by him some time though. i mean, do you think he'll survive the next few days at least without a no confidence book? he's shoot us if i've been to next week, but i think next week could be a difficult time for him again when the report comes sized. i think his performance yesterday did by this time and bizarrely be a defection of concern jim p in anticipated to join labor also helped him because he tore rebels to worry that if they take this too far, they may be in the door to the labor administration but his denial with apologies have not really come through to the ordinary basis. they think he's just lying, but they believe his apologies. they think the line that he's already where the work event on the party is incredible. and i think that they feel that they're not competence in their prime minister. all right, so must back anyway and on all of this and tell us, i mean, do you think that he'll be able to survive the findings after the report comes out?
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i'd agree very much with john. i think the mood in west minister is violent a swinging back and forth. and i, i do think tuesday are the result of a pity and also the red roll that suggested johnson has lost some of his barco in those crucial seats in the north, in the midlands. lots of reports in west minister about rent roll and he is corker saying to send those letters into sir grey brady, chairman of the $922.00 committee to trigger that vote of confidence. and then of course, the defection yesterday for christine, waiting for it to the labor side. i think the combination of those 3 things really . i think that meant johnson was in trouble yesterday. and i agree with john, but actually his performance and the defection, the combination of those 2 things have brought him a little bit of time. but i think next week is now the point of maximun danger for the prime minister. and the su gray record. we know is not going to make
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a determination on johnson. it will present the facts and then it will leave it to others to make judgements about whether and johnson has leyden and subsequently ultimately misled parliament. and i think that is going to be a perilous moment for the prime minister. assuming you do get $54.00 letters, then in 2 separate brady, it's still a big jump to then get a $181.00 and piece, which is what you would need to know votes of combo. so i think the 2nd floor must have. i do think that the 54 letters will actually be reached. i mean, for what, what we now would know so far is that so far, 11 conservative m p 's have publicly at these declared no confidence in the prime minister. so do you think that momentum is going to keep on growing? i think a lot will hang on the wording. and johnston's reaction to the su gray report only sir graham brady knows how many letters have been received does,
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of course empties out or on the record. but many may have gone in that we don't know about. i think brady has probably given indications to number 10 about how serious the situation is i spoke. that is why downing street a signal, but they would fight a confidence votes. and again, i think that's why getting to the 181, tory on piece is going to be quite a challenge. assuming johnson does get through the next week, and this will be my final point. then of course, there's going to be a big challenge in the aftermath of the males already local elections, where i suspect the tories will do very badly. and at that point, of course, inflation will be keeping and the concerns are on cost of living will be very of the present prep is involving jillian the move in the, in the conservative party. and i think you alluded to this as well as that it's being described as sort of very tumultuous. but you think the m p 's and the conservative party won a crisis right now on their hands such as this i think they've been given
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a crisis whether they want one or not in. it's very much up to those m. p 's at westminster, tim to advocate for the the views of those. and constituents like david davis alluded to who are furious at the level, the level of flippant from the prime minister. i think some of and some of i've heard from constituents about his performance is i am premise there's questions wheaties trying to deflect their, bringing a policy to try and aim deflate. some of the heat from the prime minister is only adding to that, that the lack of confidence from, from the public. i think some of the, today's, and i really have to decide whether the want to continue under this morally bankrupt government that they have or whether they're going to stand with their
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constituents. and as, as the other, a, or other panelists have said that to fate them very, very badly at the local elections, both in england and in scotland in may as while john, you know, those who support the prime minister say that, well, this is a man who let the u. k. through a crisis, of course, like the pandemic, a national crisis, and maybe he should be given some credit. what do you think of that argument? well, that he does have a sort of hardcore supporters in obviously in the concern of itself. and indeed, many of them piece one seats and attorneys 19 election. recognize that they did say because because of our assaults it's christina, is promised to get brakes done and so on. and. and the sort of fits from teresa may have been pushed by the posse in 2019. but i think the issue that tory and be a grappling with is that it's not enough to have support inside because he needs
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that supportive betas in the end. and the pages seemed to become disillusioned, particularly over these parties, but to some extent, dated by the hand over his chaotic image over the arguments you've been having the song as a divers miserably dominic cummings, dining st. luke's rather chaotic and disorganized. and i think both has been like that they think, you know, government should be, should be better on it. and that's really the underlying issue here. what are you telling you, john, about the public smooth and what they want to see happen. so they're not saying that the bars, johnson, ourself and popularity rating is below that theresa theresa pay was, was very unpopular towards the end of time in office because she was failing to deliver to deliver breakfast. so he, he was never a very popular prime minister. that's one of the things to nature back to use, never as popular people like tenure or even in his day job major. but he had enough of a rating to win
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a large majority in the last election. and now i think the negative against, which was higher than many people realized, have climbed to a level where tori m. p 's. don't worry that they could lose the next election. and as long as that continues, it is a big thing to push out a prime minister. it doesn't happen very often. it happened most famously. but given that they worry about what happened is something that could happen at any time, even if you saw the next week, the next few weeks and mugs must have. i mean, john just mentioning to resume, she did go through this in 2018, of course, and m p submitted enough letters to trigger a confident vote and her. but then when the vote came, she survived that mister johnson himself have sir, has survived sort of intense storms before. if i can put it that way, can you see that happening to him? mean, i think kids probably too late for johnson. i think the political context, the economic context is very challenging. indeed. amik crohn in the government
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sized or maybe around the, you know, we may be moving on from, on the cross and turning back corner around the next corner is a massive cost of living crisis. inflation is set to reach, i believe 7 percent in the u. k. this year. so i think the economic challenge is the government will face in the latter part of the and we're going to be a very, very big problem for the government that will, i think way down on johnson. i don't think after the local authority elections, he will be able to recover. so all of us argue this point is when likely to face a leadership contest in the summer. i think probably the 2 front runners in that regard will be the chancellor richie sooner and foreign secretary list. try us i. i suspect neither. if it does go to the leadership contest or want to concede which means tory members will meet to have a say. and at least from where things sit at the moment,
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i believe her chancellors to knock is most likely her to succeed. johnson has prime minister in the 2nd half of the year, probably her to be announced at the tory conference in the, in the latter part of the year. okay. and julia, would you like to weigh in on, on this issue or far as she soon i kind and less trust that semester i was just talking about i think it will come as, as no surprise they say i completely lack of favorite tory to take over from, from the prime minister, i think part of the problem for me is the fact that they are continuing. they are some of the people that are defending the prime minister at the moment. so if we're looking at the prime minister as being completely unfit, what does that say for the rest of the cabinet who are currently defending them? and may have known about these, these parties as well. it's something that the cabinet widely won't, won't answer if the weight of what these, what was happening. so there is a much wider problem at the heart of the u. k. government,
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which really scotland has to get from on guard is as quickly as possible because we're seeing more and more abhorrent policies coming forward. the one that was the night over the weekend about using force against refugees. and the channel is just horrendous. and it's something that as a country we should not be sounding for john, would you like to respond to what julian was saying? well, i mean, i think you know, the enemy, the tory, you're going and many people worry about the direction that this government is taking. but back to the question of you who might succeed. bar assaults and i think i would agree with much of the reasons to not get the favorites the anything i would say is that past experience suggests that favorites often when in the end funny enough, the front runner, it often sort of picked out to somebody who everybody else has to go out and then
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somebody else can emerge. so i, i wouldn't like to be absolutely, you know, assess, and i'm predicting who might take a johnson at the end of this. yeah. right. okay. and what about the opposition party, john? because obviously, i mean, the opposition is laughing, the self care storm are saying bars, johnson should be kicked out in the national interest. how is this reflecting on them? well, i mean, give you having a good run. it's take it in time to get known by the public. you know, he arrived just hit the u. k and said people didn't see much of him, but now they've seen a lot more of him if he'd a lot more parliament. and i think he has the, or somebody who's most furious and perhaps more trustworthy than bar johnson. and that's clearly helping him and his party. he's the way to go before it before he went to the election. but i think at the moment he's an, he's an even pretty good, pretty good position. and oddly enough, i think in many ways a lot of coffee calls of our stuff together. you know, what we'll do? he's going to be in a better position of ourselves and stays. and if,
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if don't somebody like where she takes labor, he's more likely to win against johnson. anybody else? julian, the, the prime minister's former top, a dominant cummings has been sort of, i guess, instrumental in all of his saying that he himself had worn boars. johnson about number 10, holding a drink party in the garden during lockdown, but he also said that the prime minister just kind of wave decides the concerns about the gatherings. it could be seen of some sort of death by cummings for some shooting. it could be, but it's a i think dominic coming suspend as maybe find offensive offensive truth and has decided to am on the loss of the problems at the heart of government. no matter what these things shouldn't have happened. whether revealed by dominant cummings, whether they're revealed by other members of em, dining street staff or whether that unveiled by they buy the price be these things
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should not be happening. they are playing in the face of everything that the asked the public to do. and the public have done brilliantly with the public and heating to these restrictions. we could have seen a much worse possession. and for me, that's one of the big concerns going forward as we progress through the rest. and hopefully the end of this pandemic is that if our leaders haven't stuck to the rules that were sat down, what hope do we have of the public at heating to any more bills that we might have to bring in? if we get a worse b and sometime in the future, most of are also on cummings. he went on to say that the prime minister had actually lied to parliament about the parties. so effectively, does this mean? the accusation is that the prime minister has breach the ministerial code. yes, i think coming clearly is out to unsee johnson. i think, you know, that's obviously a very big part of his, his mission. he's
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a big champion and supporter of richie soon, i suspect in attempting to unseat johnson. you will also be attempting to get an ally into number 10 to advance the post brakes and gender, especially around leveling, which i think many in white hole in westminster believe not, would have a better, better shot at implementing the johnson house or indeed reload the remainder system he does indeed survive. so i think i think cummings will continue to pile on the pressure. i think that does create risk of course, because having johnson for so many years, he obviously has a stashing emails and evidence and things like he can continue throwing at the p. m to create problems. and i think that's going to be the issue for johnson. every 2nd we think he has stabilize something else, pops along, most notably through a dominant cummings is blog. and i suspect that will continue to be the case until johnston is so we did the party decides to to remove him. all right,
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we will have to see what happens in the next few days, but for the time being. thank you so much for speaking to us, john p. julian mckay and mr. bye man, thanks for joining us. thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for the discussion. you can go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha, and say story. join the conversation on twitter or handle as a inside story from myself. and the whole team here and how, thanks for watching bye for now. ah, and
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