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intentions o the ukraine, the diffused the us and russia hold more talks. but there's no break through washington was of the consequences of an invasion moscow. 6, assurances on security. is there a middle ground to be reached? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i am, hash them about the us and russia have held what they say are frank talks as their try to resolve their stand off on ukraine. foreign minister, sir gala rob,

repeated denials, huge rush and force along the border is preparing to invade us secretary of state antony lincoln said the us and its allies would respond severely if it did the meetings fail to find agreement other than both sides would continue steps to defuse the crisis. natasha butler has this report from geneva at a hotel in geneva, the u. s. secretary of state and russian foreign minister arrived for crucial talks into diffusing tensions over ukraine. antony blinkin and sir gala for offset the tone early. both said a breakthrough was unlikely. number's going to resolve your work for you as well. um, i mean with owners, jewelry with dish, we are not expecting

a breakthrough at this meeting either. we are expecting answers to our proposals after the meeting law for offset moscow wanted a written response from the us to its demands, including a guarantee that nato will not grant membership to your crane something blank and has repeatedly called a nonstarter. but he said the u. s. would respond to russia if moscow addressed it's concerns and respected ukrainian sovereignty. we've been clear if any russian military forces move across ukraine's order, that's renewed invasion. it will be met with swift, severe, and a united response from the united states and our partners and allies. us intelligence says russia has already amassed at least a $100000.00 troops on its western border, and is moving weapons into allied belarus, north of ukraine. the u. s. and russian positions are clearly far apart to blinkin and lap off, making very little real progress. but the 2 men did agree to continue to pursue

diplomacy as a way of the escalating, a crisis which could lead to war. it was on the shores of lake geneva, the talks between b, u. s. and russia led to the end of the cold war, decades on her old rivalries, have resurfaced. both sides accuse each other, regression and relations are dangerously deteriorated. the outlook for the coming weeks is turbulent. natasha butler al jazeera geneva, the build up of russian troops on the border, has res, fears of conflict for many ukrainians, and the 1st shipment of additional u. s. military aid, 200000000 dollars worth of equipment has arrived in the capital cave, but hundreds of people have rallied in the city calling for the escalation. ah, for more on this,

i'm joined by our guests in washington, dc. curt walker distinguish fellow of the center for european policy analysis. his also former u. s. representative for ukraine negotiations and u. s. and bassa to nato. in cave theater zelma, of executive director of erasure, democracy initiative. and in moscow we have la demur, sat nick of political commentator and specialist on russian foreign affairs. welcome to the program, curved. no one was expecting the blink lovegrove meeting to produce a breakthrough. but however, is it likely to diffuse the tension? no, i don't think sense. i think russia has been very clear all along. it has set out these demands of ukraine not having its own sovereignty. not being able to choose whether to join nato or not. nato being required to pull back military forces from allies and all in the baltic states,

demands that russia knew would be acceptable and yet it contin continues to push those and insist that the u. s. and later agreed to those. it's not going to happen . so as a result, i think we are just biting time. well, russia masses, more military forces in and around ukraine is really not looking at the diplomacy seriously. peter is the same sentiment among ukrainians, that this is just a matter of time before. an evasion by invasion by the russians while sorta like the proverbial rifle that's hanging at the beginning of anton checkups plate. i said to eventually fire by the end of the play. it's just a matter of time. and a matter of the set of scale attack that will be, will be coming from foot. and that's what most gradients believe. i would say that overall there's much, there's less of a, there's less of

a shenaria that there will be a full blooded attack and an invasion of ukraine with the potential siege of the capital city a key. and that's probably unlikely, but there's a whole host of options and scenarios that is considering because simply because i did not believe in a do not by his that his concerns that need that isn't circling, russia is genuine. i think what is really genuine is like them equipment, lack of desire to see a prosperous and democratic ukraine. so i think anything is possible, editing is on the table from a limited at that on in the east of ukraine. a potential land ordered to the crimea and may be instigating accord over throwing the government in kia, latino, the russian foreign minister has been denying reports about military build up all the are on the border with ukraine. however, when you look at the chose being

a mask, then we look at the tactical groups sent to bill arrows. this is an indication that the russians could potentially be planning a to front attack. or let me disagree with my esteemed or above colic, sir, from our united states. and then the ukraine is, i suppose a rush is not going to invade or just to incur make in the end incursions to the canon territory actually, ah no. what about those negotiations? which were held between the russian foreign minister, sergei love roth, and ah, secretary of state lincoln. that was a ride to diffuse a situation. but unfortunately these negotiation sir, ah, didn't give any results. i. i think that the eventually, eventually, are these sir arm solution to this sir? tangents will be, are found, and i think that there will be other morales of consultations and negotiations, at least one between

a russia and the united states consulting the ukranian issue. and i'm a just to regards former, numerous, russia has all arrived just her to, to maneuver or whatever the lab all the troops are. i let me, let me, let me let, let me point that this is going to be and this is actually taking place on the russian territory. but that's not a sign that russia is going to invade the. let me disagree again with my ukranian colleague that russia is preparing to incur sir air to, to, to invade in the east, off for our, the ukraine logic. how to make an offer a coup ok cut of the santo, the negotiations between the, the talks between the americans on the russians. a list of demands presented by the russians. the key element here, the russians won't, of britain can a written document from the american saying that

a ne 2 is going to be committed to not admit ukraine as a member any time in the future. do you see the americans winning for a compromise when it comes to this particular point? no, i don't know. ukraine is a sovereign country. it's an independent country. it has a long story, colon and political and social and cultural identity that make it a state in europe. it is ukraine's right to decide whether it chooses to join a security alliance for collector defense or not. and i don't think it is for the united states or anyone else to say that no that's, that's never going to happen. native defensive alliance. it has reduce its military capabilities dramatically over the years since the end of the cold war has never attacked or threatened russia. ukraine does not threaten russia. and so the idea that russia,

which has attacked ukraine and has attacked other countries in the neighborhood and has taken the territory, can be a threat, is real, which is why it's important for a country like ukraine to seek to join us. so no, i don't see that being taken off the table as a possibility won't happen soon, but i don't think anyone's going to write off that possibility. pizza, when you look at the statements made by ne to european allies over the last few years over the issue of ukraine. do you feel like you're on a confident position, where if needs be the americans along with they to and europeans would be that to protect the ukrainians? very good question. let me just pick up a briefly comment on wet vegetable cassette and in country what our russian family said. you know, whether russia is or is not planning to attack. don't boss, let, let's be clear. let's be clear that it already has. it has a next crimea country to all international agreements, and it instigated

a war in the east of ukraine. it's not a civil war country to what russia says now regarding your question about natal, you know. 4 it would not be so hopeful, unfortunately, and i would say that you created that also not very short, especially after what we heard from president biden when he decided to insert up a doze, of bracing honesty about natal potential response to a variety of different scenarios. something that is honest, but should have been confined to private conversations among allies, you know, where with the audience of millions of people listening and especially one particular important individual write him up would be this was not very helpful. and it does seem that there is no clarity as far as the responses to various different scenarios. i have concerns about the response of the german side that has ruled out a new sort of military assistance, the upgrade and has also has not been willing to discuss the future of the north

stream to project, which is a guest back with pipeline from russia and is a very, very important, important component. when you come nomic response. should russia attack ukraine. vladimir, what do you think is russia's biggest concern? is cit, nato's expansion? or is it just the fear of seeing a neighbor which is more vibrant, setting up a strong democracy that could further spread eastwards. ah, well ah, thank you for the question. actually. first of all, i would like just to show brief the command on what sir. ah, my ah, ukrainian colleague, cur panelist sat, i was surprised at saying by him that russia is made an aggression to a crimea that that is not true actually because there was a dialogue both in crimea and the crimean sexually ah, your voice the gave their voice the to the original location with rush. well,

that was not the gears of just for the record that the russian narrative internationally we're talking about annexation of the crimea. and also actually that on and encouraged to not in the delay eastern territories. that was not annexation. and that was not the end in gush. it's the casa, well, actually, i, i will get straight to the point, i would say that russia is not fearing the grade that sir. you remember there? there was an article by present loving bruton, where he sat and grow that russia and ukraine. this is just a common, common, common people that this is so there was a ukraine, or are there russia actual somewhere out there back in there in the past. but, ah, i regarding a question. i think that the, the most, the concern of russia, this is an enlargement buffer nature and the putting the nature ah, missiles medium range missiles on ukrainian territory. that's why russia would like

to have written guarantees because the written get, i'm just, this is a legal document. ah, peter, you wanted to say something i just wanted to jump in are, are, you know, it is an are running situation with my report. claims that nato constitutes an existential threat to russia, but it's precisely his actions in the last 8 years or even longer that created this insecurity in the region that has prompted not only ukrainians to aspire with, greater and greater force, greater greater numbers to become a member of nato, but the longstanding neutral european powers such as sweden and finland are all of a sudden talking about that a casual accession needle. kurt, it was 2nd major demand by the russians is withdrawn day to chose back to 1997. this is before several countries in eastern europe word mitted. is this something that potentially could be debated between the u. s. and its own our lives within

the nato? before coming back to the russians with an answer? no, that is not something that united states or major would do either. and we have to 1st remember the history that no poland, oh, arctic states, stoney le, unless winnie or gary romanian reader occupied by the soviet union or governments imposed on them by the union and part of the worst factors exception for many. and they are now free and independent countries. again, they were historically green independent. they are again now, and they will refuse to be subjugated to russia in any way in the future. it's not for russia to tell them whether and how to defend themselves, and nato likewise will not allow an outside power such as russia to dictate the way that it goes about its preparation for defense. in the case, a country, any member of native would be attack, so that is not on the table. one thing are russian colleagues that i think could be addressed is missiles. he said that is a concern of russia,

that nato could possibly put missiles into your brain. this is something where we had previously existing agreement, the agreement, and also concerns about short range. russia in its territory, been very close to western territory. and here i think there is scope for negotiation and agreement on not deploying those sorts of weapons or locations where it is acceptable to those to be deployed. reciprocal music pages, pita, we've seen some equipment delivered to the, a cranium over the last few months, particularly from britain, the next generation light weapons, the allows and also the javelin from the americans. but apart from that, the germans of you said very reticent about the need to send what java made weapons into ukraine's many countries are saying we have to be really cautious when it

comes to sending any strong signal to was the equation that could further observe the rushes, do you feel like that ultimately you might end up being the ones to pay a price if the science in the region decide to move forward. well, you know, it is. i wish i could tell you with certainty what that would lead to, in order to scenarios, you know, russia, credit, put his propaganda machinery can take the armament, a long situation to clean that. you know, there is a, you know, there is a, an encirclement happening and ukraine is being used as a puppet, as a, as a sort of a territory for which to strike against russia. or as many, including american military analysts and supporters of ukraine claimed vladimir putin understands only force and the sooner it's demonstrated the better. therefore, americans already agree to supply you greenwood stinger missiles, you know, including by giving the baltic states or the green light to do that. and mind you,

it was during the dentist and war by the song, is that the stinger missiles allowed them will j. d dean eventually knock out the solid power and force it to withdraw. but once again, i wish i had a clear answer. ok, this is a very complex in areas and it go what ways? ok, vladimir said that's one of russia's main concerns is using ukraine and areas in the and eastern countries on the border to launch attack against russia. but don't you see the potential for resuming talks on the intermediate range nuclear forces, tweety that the u. s. abandoned in 2019 as something that could send reassurances to the russians? yes, correct. i see the potential actually a resuming the talk on the air or this a treaty. and i think that one, sir, the great in crisis will be diffuse to diffuse. there are to some, to some level those talk for are on the earth resuming the agreement.

aah! which was abandon, you're right, a sometime ago they will start to take place. so i think that the, this is that boy and, well, yeah, the united states and the russian federation can make a good agreement. what, what about what i'm saying? a good agreement. i mean that both sides will prolong this street. you will find probably the consideration of this straight to the and then from that boy into the diffusion, i'm an optimist. i'm an optimist actually. ok from that boy into the relationship between a bow for power us will be getting better. kurt, that is this concerned about the short range massage being deployed in those areas near russia and used by the americans and they to in the near future to destabilize russia. but don't you see at the same time that vladimir putin is trying to bring

to the full front once again, the issue of the tactical nuclear weapons that the americans have deployed in places like belgium, italy, germany, and turkey during the cold war. and his using this opportunity to say, you know, what, part of the deal would be for the americans to take them out of those areas. and he certainly bring that up, but he's conveniently not bringing up the fact that russia has fastly more hundreds and hundreds and hundreds more short range nuclear warheads, in that same area of europe, rushes, western frontiers facing europe. so this deterrence has been in place for 70 years, almost where the u. s. nuclear guarantee is linked to you are so that they're equal security for all of us. i think that the u. s. a native would be willing to discuss. i n f and s and s limitations, but on

a reciprocal mutual basis and of course requires strict verification. it was russia by after the previously a future agreement. we're good ish, the vicious peter when the, when the, when the russians say that there is a why the and asked crimea and provided support for the secessionist is the need for the russians to protect the russian speaking communities there. do you have any concerns of the russian in a way or another are trying to reshape the whole narrative surrounding the independence of the ukraine back in the ninety's and going back to the notion, you know, what happened in 1991. it was a mistake, and therefore we need to revive those chapters which could entail the ukrainians coming under the fall of the russians. once again. while i, you know, let's not go too far. i am a russian originally a russian speaking ukrainian from beneatha. this is why i was born, this is why i grew up country. do rush us propaganda claims. the russian language

and russian speakers were never under any physical harm threat then the russian language wasn't right. this is completely concocted as a rationale for the nutrition premier and the subsequent instigation of the war in the don't boss. what we're seeing is happening in ukraine. what we're seeing, what's happening with belive us, which has essentially become a protectorate of russia, has essentially cease to exist as a defect independent state. what we're seeing in context on where russia has invoked its collective security treaty to restore order. it really, it really matches what we heard, let me say over the, over the years that he considers the breakup of the soviet union as a great the greatest one of the greatest geopolitical tragedies of the 20th century . he misses the soviet union. he misses russia's ability to project power to what

is called the near abroad. obviously that will be assembling, so that he will try to reunite as under russia's umbrella villette briefly, if you don't mind each time, there is a crisis. this all this debate in russia, exactly. reverberating, what happened back in the ninety's, what kind of russia do we want? what kind of boundaries are we talking about? what kind of relationship do we have with our neighboring countries? but don't you think that this time, the excuse is all the, the issue that ladiva putting is using when it comes to ukraine, could back fi compared to what happened in 2014? no, i don't think so. actually again, i'm telling you that i'm not to miss myself. we my sexual, remember the past, the recent past and what was sexual assault 2 years ago. non that is just to follow the process to do not make the same mistakes in the future. so i think it will be a great mistake. all auditions are probably united states from ukraine,

if for there will be a mounting threat. and jane, danger. ok. and then from, from, from the west on, from nature towards russia. because so russia along our lessons very well. so i think that finally, i would like to say that i'm sure that there will be no, any war between thank you, nature or russia. i really appreciate that. unfortunately, we, we are running out of time. wish we had more time to continue the debate of our happens next in ukraine. kurt walker, peters, our, my latino, sonic of. i really appreciate your insight looking forward to talking to you in the near future and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again anytime by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversational twitter, our hand that is at ha,

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