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them out, most people won't last last 6 months. something we've heard throughout the supply chain crisis is that it's decades of deregulation that focused on corporate profits instead of building infrastructure like truck depots, for example. i'm taking care of workers that got us her. she ever turns the al jazeera maryland. ah, this is al jazeera, these are the top stories. nato has put his forces on standby and sent ships and aircraft to eastern europe as tensions grow between ukraine and russia. you foreign ministers have promised to 1300000000 dollar loan to help kiev. kimberly hawkins as the latest from washington dc on the white house reaction. the president worked right through the weekend and into monday, working at cap david, a secure location, mulling over a number of scenarios, including whether or not to deploy american troops by the thousands. the numbers
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still not determined, but the understanding is that there is a plan, a number of options being drawn up where the president likely to make a decision by the end of the week to deploy troops not to ukraine proper, but instead of potentially to nato allies. this would not only include in terms of personnel, but also aircraft, as well as war ships. a military coup attempts underway in burkina faso. an army officer has just read a statement on state tv saying the army has ended president cowboys post. you also said the government and the national assembly have been dissolved security. soci say the president had been detained at a military base. soldiers asserted taking control of the main tv station. united alabama has, has intercepted ballistic missiles fired by who the rebels. it's retaliated by a launching air strikes in yemen, who the spokesman is threatening further attacks on the u. e. former lebanese
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primer society, however, he says, is suspending his wall in political life and will not run in the upcoming parliamentary elections. really has urged his political party to not participate either. the afghan taliban and western diplomats have begun. no 1st official talks in europe since the group took control of of ghana stand last august. the closed door meetings with u. s. and e. u officials are taking place in norway. the former roman catholic for benedict has admitted giving a false statement to a child, sex abuse inquiry. he says he mistakenly told investigators in germany that he wasn't at a meeting in 1980. when he was archbishop of munich inquiry, found that benedict knew about peter filed priests would fail to report their crimes. those of the headlines. the news continues here on al jazeera, after inside story, we'll see in 25 minutes you by ah,
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what's behind the latest military to indicate a fast so the president is arrested, a soldier's mutiny against a government's failure to stop attacked by our groups. what's required to restore stability? this is inside stored. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm in ron con. it's the african country where military coups happen all too often. in the latest attempt in bettina faso internet is down the main t v. stations under military control. and soldiers say they've detained president russia. campbell ah,
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tension escalated on saturday when security forces fall to protesters. who blame the government from? failing to stop attacks by on groups. on sunday, soldiers mutinied at military bases in the capital, wagon, dougie, and 2 of the citizens. the leaders of the revolt made 6 demands, including the replacement of military commanders and better equipment to fight on groups. some protesters showed their support in street demonstrations. the defense minister went on t v to deny a coup attempt, and the government imposed a curfew. nicholas hack is de monitoring developments for us from dock are in cynical. there are celebrations in the capital walker to go and across the country . many saying that president hawk macavoy had it coming. he was seen as weak and inefficient in the face of growing attacks from arm groups linked to iso and al qaeda. and the tipping point happened in november where security forces almost 50 of them died in the region of a nuts. and there was public outcry when it turns out that not only were they ill
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equipped, but they had gone weeks without receiving their food rations present, hawk hawk mccuber was seen as a president. that was not equipping the soldiers sent on the frontline without their food rations. and so there were protests across burkina. faso in those protests were clamped down and present rock. michaela made a series of measures dismissing his government several times. most recently dismissing several senior officers, some of them were arrested, allegedly plotting a coup against him. and so it seems now that they, the military are now in charge of burkina faso. this may be a step back for democracy in a region that has seen 3 who's one in guinea, the other in molly, and now in brooklyn, of fossa. but for many in the country, it's seen as a step forward for better security. more than 1500000 people have been displaced in over 2000 people have been killed in a country on the verge of chaos, despite the support of french forces that are on the ground. nicholas hawk al
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jazeera for inside story. we'll introduce our panel in just a moment, but 1st let's take a quick look at how we go ahead. now as nicholas hack mentioned, a taxing to ice lol tighter have killed thousands and displaced around one and a half 1000000 people. the military has been suffering losses since the violence began in 2016 last december. more than 50 security forces were killed in the north . the continued killing of civilians triggered demonstrations against the government. military leaders also complained about a lack of equipment and training. in october, president roche cavalry replaced the chiefs of the army, and the air force to quell discontent within the military. and earlier this month, a dozen soldiers were arrested on suspicious of conspiring against the government. ah, let's begin, i guess, in acro, the capital of governor manuel casey and inc, director research in the country. you know,
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international peacekeeping training center in osalla, in sweden. yes. will be allison, senior researcher at the north africa institute, and from casablanca in morocco, dom again, a journalist, and former director of information that i course, let's see. i can only community west african states. i welcome to you all. i'd like to begin in casablanca, in morocco with you, a dom again, president roche, campbell has seen the writing on the wall for a long time. in fact, he did arrest senior military leaders. but that seemingly not enough to stop a qu from happening. how much trouble is he in ice is the drama because this was, as you run the say, writings on the wall. people who have been with the civilian in the country a happy. and you remember last year, 1453, a one down. either down call it a mission and food for this. so
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the, there is a government for changes here. so you fence a but the 1st 2 little late and indeed there was really a race. dorothy, stop me a just the 2 weeks ago. it was attached to that one by a controller, by the military, as you was until yesterday. but people including a legal ease, decided to strike yesterday to a b. i think there is towards the president looking up a saw and the people are here to then, you know, not just a. yeah. and that's where the it,
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and later i do briefly a couple of nation lead to the steel or did he said that this was going to do for them to fish for a company was so how a neighbor under the 2nd, you're not really very strong a but respected him to come 3 of us if you could give them in 2015. well let's, let's make that point to manual. busy crazy and in the key to fast so has a unique perhaps more than any other african nation problem when it comes to fighting al qaeda and iceland deed a couple of years ago on iceland message boards there was told that they wanted to write between a fossil the capital of the new caliphate that never happened,
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but the fighting has been tough for the king of us or does the army in making a fuss? i have a point, they're not equipped to fight this fight, and this is why they've mounted this action. when i think that, i mean, that's a good point, but it's not just about a lack of appropriate and adequate logistics. it's also about the doctrine, it's about leadership. it's about the nature of the messaging and understanding of, of the enemy that they are trying to resist. and me sway best when there's clear products, cow, leadership with a message that no doubt drives the army, and that it is surely dead access. i will hear it. i think that bullet county dashing off leading of oversight of control of ensuring that a stretches themselves within the abbey franklin effectively to be able to take on
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this enemy as be weak leading to the app itself, creating atrocity supplemental atrocities that has led me to lose some of the support from the business, the phil at west publish acad effects for me is that temporary reverse out there? something all dental keena government? well let me take that, let me take that boy to our next. yes there, yes pur, jonathan ah! who is in of sala in sweden? or we are stage where the president is actually afraid of his own military. he was afraid that the will become too powerful, so he didn't give them what they needed to fight that fight. and now they're actually put him under house arrest is back for his truck is almost back fight because he was afraid of them in the 1st place. well, i think it is a very tricky sort of structure to maneuver for the president. and that will be true of and the president succeed in coverage. that is what we're seeing now. we
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have to distinguish, 1st of all, of course, between the troops, actually fighting the war against you. how does i'm in the north of the country? and then the central military leadership, and as mr. gay said, that has been some replacements now in the military leadership. but i still had soldiers protesting yesterday, calling for another change of the head of the army, not of the president. so i think 1st of all, we have to nuance or understanding of what the different factions of the army actually are asking for. and then we also have to distinguish between the military elite and, and sort of the, the troops themselves. i think the presidents challenge has been that he has, as far as i've understood, he is appointed new leadership within the armed forces. now that seem to be sort of a group formerly referred to as low boys who were loyal to the state during the attempted to of 2015. and he may have sort of marginalized other actors within the
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armed forces that are now reacting to not being as more central to power. so it's a very complicated structure. and a very complicated game the president has had to play their dom again. would you agree the factionalism within the army is a big driver of what we're saying there. is this army in the north that isn't very happy with the central army leadership as i guess just pointed out, would you say that that's true? yes. so, so d, c is compounded by the fact that there is literally a given to what we can consider that mexican or b we have been benefiting from on the resources of the state. whether the lower rank people would go up to you yesterday didn't benefit from. so this is the reality. but beyond that, i think the country was not when you manage before we think about it or was 27
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years after the demise of the month of october 97 p by the people were surrounding a country for 37 years. somehow, with various forces by mr. our previous president, them on a little bit of an ice and a we were in a fossil from countries that affected by a and b. but now, what is happen a, by the way, we each form a really good. we go to review but much to change gear and become reinvented. there was a, b, a u,
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n 15000000 book. you know, the people want to leave this place before we leave the country. you have a funny in the country you economic difficulties and the military is given this brother, or do you think about the problem and maybe about from mr. look up. i know, personally going for many years. he's a young man, but he's not the type of leaders told me that the a policy that the me to you right. really take to make sure that anybody with immediately we're really when we know that most of it is, it will somehow and under the previous president, mr. echo us have just come out with some statements quite crucial statements. actually. they've describing it as an attempted coat. that they've also said that
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the army is responsible for the physical integrity of rush, cowboy, himself, an echo us of also said that they want to see rapid change in the situation. is anybody going to be listening to echo us emanuel questioning? well, i mean, this sounds very much like a repetition or the same stint man's with respect to malleable for. ringback spec gainey and now but cannot press so i think the primary element and the democratic rebels, the ability of those who got to really have a handle on the most recent. your problem is that the country has n for us to plea that intervening be true for all of not doing. it's need to awesome all inclusive or pin that logic
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form of governance. so there wouldn't be much listening because. busy look, that there were some bridges have changed, you know, people as priscilla becoming impatient, demanding governance. that's that speaks to the challenges that the face on a daily basis. and both of them in denison have told us quite a lot about the ballistic. did today. challenges of people, and i think west africa, please kindly put it must be sensitive to the driving forces of the majority of these people in the suffrage 20 indicated unemployed. you know how saying for benefit and consider for them, for example, and frustrated. but with was just wanting to know what is happening elsewhere and this back to me on liberty,
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that's true cheap and non functioning. so while no waiting for dad come to pass elsewhere, having right, let me bring up pointed to yes, be honest and a class is the economic community of west african states. is it actually a player in this particular scenario, or like, i guess there's just that, it's again the statements that we've heard before, and they're not really resonating with the people, the poll on the ground? well, i would say that if we look at what's happening in molly, i think it was, is trying to to, to we impose itself as an relevant act when it comes to sort of in molly, trying to, to convince the military young to, to hand over power to civilian that, transitional government. but it's true that echo bus has been criticize of being sort of a president club where, you know, the heads of state of countries with questionable democratic records are looking
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out for each other rather than looking out for their populations. so i think everybody has a legitimacy problem to, to deal with. but i do think that these kinds of statements are necessary as a minimum i think that not making condemning statements about potential military takeover would be even worse. so i don't think there's much else for eco us to do at the moment, but they will have to work hard to deserve the credibility in the eyes of, of west african people. in general, i would, i would say adama gave the same point to you are a co s, a player right now. no, it was a community, a huge type of function that you said in a country that is almost going down the drain as being rejected by the population across not just across africa. this is a good idea just for them why you don't be
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react when you cannot leave a quantity with it was getting people or would you mind it? well, why don't they react to when a b, b there for a few and know coming time to make it to all people? you do not like a, as a form of communication. call us at the, the changing demographics with youngsters coming up. knowing what is going on in the world and a man and the cost of the people, of course, of the state and the course of the state. to be something the need to finish and open up the field of conversation to make sure that they do a kind of statement that we were going to pay attention to
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mr. rock mark a c s. and the problem as b was to me, well, we, again, we will get into the citizens. we will get into that. i do want to bring in here. we have a because it said, well let's talk about where the other organization before we get into how long the president has been powerful manual chrissy. and whereas the african union and all of this, they have a relatively where they've always had a rule to play. but this structure of the relationship between the african union and it's read that it's becoming communities, is that ethical wise, based on the subsidiary of principal become defense is the original organization that's to respond to the challenges that booking has tree. and that's a kind of union will take guidance from
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a job where to speech. but the reason like the target and i said there might be, see, how do we show that we have used to shoes. that's our response. see as sensitive to the needs of people. now, when you have your strategic that increases cheap and i'm not perceived by the generality of the populate the lead as being and banding and get perception of the problem. and mandating from this institution seems to be purely akin. foster hasn't happened overnight. we saw west meetings in a crash where they were focusing on maddie. so that gives that impression that there's a lack of appropriate intelligence organ. so we seem to have lost a manual there. we will come back to you. yes. for gunnison. here we go. you have
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echo us. you have the african union. they are players are within this entire scenario is playing out right now. but you also have a generational problem of corruption of mismanagement. does taken places lead to this anger? none of this is solvable overnights. so literally the future for begin of faso in the next few months will be a military almost failed state surely. well let's, let's hope for the best i would say, let's 1st see what happens in these coming days. as far as i know, it hasn't really been confirmed that this is a complete military takeover. i would just, i would look back to the popular uprising of 2014 and say that even before the regional had this terrorism became such an imposing problem on looking fast. so the country was facing a very steep transition from the 27 year rule of bass compare into
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a more democratic state. and that challenge was then compounded by the, the sort of the, the growing threat of and menace of the g. how does terrorism so already. busy at that time, when mr. corporate came in, sorry, missed a couple of came into power. you know, that was a very steep challenge to face and i don't, i think has been fairly realistic in the promises he's made to some extent. but of course, any, any head of state would, would struggle to keep promises under those conditions. so what he has failed that dramatically is of course, communicating the extent to which those promises we're just not possible to keep the question of whether we're heading towards a military state. now, i think we should be very careful about normalizing military rule in the region. i think that's the, that's the 1st key point there. and i think it's up to all these different factors
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regional, continental and international to keep pressure on any military actor stepping forward and k need to ship. now i think it's important that we find the way back to civilian rule if this is and do the military takeover. a dormer gay, our guest is just said we should not normalize military coups. but there is a scenario. maybe that this might be a good thing because of that you had is terrorism, that you had his own groups that they face in the north of the country. maybe this is was needed to defeat those groups. and clearly that's an international objective . doesn't have anything to do, the people are getting a faster and helping them, but it isn't international objective. is there a response here that is actually good? yeah, this is a global recession of democracy in the world. the summit of democracy organized recently by then by the america was a failure. at many,
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you have a turkey, china, russia through many leading some countries as wanted to emulate. now you ever sort of take into account the history of looking at fossil is not the 1st time the military come into the fray. i remember a, somebody, e was immediately, he's 70 afterward, there was another military and then there was a meeting. so he's not something you in the history of, you know, the part of the you can call countries to do man for c, v, a ruler to be in bridge. when those even a rule, once they come to power it and on the privatize the resources of the countries and
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after what is talking to us, not for the common good. and this is the problem because i remember i was in a, in june 1999. when did that, or a you, the south african union decided to ensure that the me, man, one of the country against a game that the city would deliver on good governance. that they would ensure the integrity of the country. and they were brought. but governance of the resources and this is not happening and it is very and be surprised that more military prompted by a well entered into the political freight. got less. yeah, the, just the ones that a, there are of the see united nation organization do have to be under
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a woman and we pick up in general to say, well, thank you very much. so all our guests a manual quote. yes, bibiana sent and i'm a gay and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out there a dot com and for further discussion, go to a facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a j inside story for me in ronco and in the whole team here. and uh huh. bye for now. ah and
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