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hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth bron in doha. the suspension of another country from equifax is raising questions about the organization's response to clues of the past 18 months. west africa is main regional block removed bochita fossil days after the army over through president roche cowboy. it stopped short of sanctions for now, recent cousin gideon, molly had seen both countries sanctioned and suspended by echo was, but it's done little to sway the behavior of military leaders in either nation. and the hard line approach seems to have backfired in monte, where the gender has rallied, support around claims. that echo was, is a bully, as al 0, as nicholas hart reports from while the duke, who is a similar mood and brooklyn of fossil there's been a muted reaction to the latest decision by the west african body. echo was, it was something that many here expected. some are waiting to see what will happen next. but frankly, overall,

people here simply don't care. the institution has lost a level of credibility in the eyes of many here and seen as clubs to protect the interests of aging president, rather than protecting the interests of the people. it will, in principle, the suspension of burkina faso sets in motion the possibility of sanction tranthum as outcast. there has been 3 military coups in the region. there has been sanctions put in place in neighboring countries, but that has done little to stop the trade in the region or sway those who leaders to change their ways. at the heart of what we're seeing right now is the crisis in the democratic institution. people no longer trust the way that democracy is being played out in the region. whether it be here in brooklyn, fossil in molly, or in guinea, where we've seen military coups. people want to see some sort of change in the way

that they are lead. nicholas talk in want to do for inside story. ah. with a more on this, i'm joined by our guests in bama co, as or nella moran had of these. i held program foot institute for security studies and in london we have david auto, director of geneva center for africa, a very warm welcome to both of you and miss moran. i'll start with you and bama call booking as booking faso, suspension by echo was from echo was have any impact on the military's actions? i'm not in a direct way. suspension is one of those extremely minimal measures that a course takes in this kind of circumstances. but most direct impact it will have is the mattie political in to some extent symbolic. the main point of this suspension is to make sure that on the one hand a course affirms

a principles position against a cruise. and on the other hand, also to make sure that the country that's, that's being affected babies to doesn't get to have a say in the organization's decision making. so this isn't in any way or a decision that's directly related to or to the military capacity of either book, you know, or partners as of now. all right, mr. auto echo as late as we'll meet again, i believe next week to assess the outcome of their mission to book in a fast. so they are traveling there today and see whether additional sanctions should be imposed. but if we have a look at what's been happening in the region and with a co us in recent months, if we look at molly, the significant sanctions there have had no impact whatsoever on the military. why

is that? and do you think that that's something that could influence a courses course of actions in booking a foster you correct the you know, the outcome of the decision that was made in terms of the specialty molly and how it's laid out will be the back of his mind in terms of, you know, was the kind of suspension that you know, they can see that for booking. if you've got to remember that from a political perspective, booking has a boundary with money, which is not a member of us. so i think you can see 3 shutting down. it was, you know, then money will not be impacted because of course, money has withdrawn itself from us. you know, the only area where they get some leverage will be the boundary. so i, because you know, but again, you know,

how much impact will close inbound boundaries be how, how would that impact on the military don't? so they have to really consider very carefully because of course, it was losing a lot of credibility. who is we've seen, you know, the fact that money and stuff raising against the equip sumption therefore gives some level of hope for the book in the base to perhaps repeat the same thing. remember, this is a repetition of what the ministry don't that money. deed is the same thing that we see in the case of booking. are they ministry on the very clear and you know, said it was because of the inability of the democratic mental, oppressive in korea to do b, b, c. and talked about the ineffective strategy. so i kind of think it was

very challenging, position my right, what do go today and let's see how that out. but it's likely that was heavily kind of leverage that will, you know, who's the military john her to receive, you know, to the credits. i think, you know, we almost, you know, all they get here for it was, it was for us and it said, that's really, really interesting. and i do want to talk about it was his influence. it's legitimacy, it's credibility more. but miss model, and if i can put to you just how much of a conundrum is echo us and give then again, you know, the sanctions that they imposed. and molly, if anything, the sort of support that we saw on the streets for the government in marley for the transitional government. and molly, because the sanctions were being, as was seen as being just so punishing and that actually could,

did that lead to support for the transitional government. and again, how will and has that influenced what's happened in book in a fossil. and there are several things i think we need not to mix here or, and like what was just say by my so the better the various neighbors are booking about. so that's are actually part of it was and this includes leisure. and so that's one thing that i think one fact that we should get straight. and the 2nd element, i think is that although there is a very listenable temptation to compare margin situations with that book in abbey, one we are at very different stages. in this crisis, the transition in money has been going on for 18 months. and the imposition of a who has his sanction which took place almost 3 weeks ago happened or towards the

end of the previously agreed transition period. which means that essentially the manual government, traditional government had committed initially to bringing the conditions when and the by now and was eventually sanction when he's pulled back from that commitment. now right now in working at best, we are only a few days less than a week from the. so there is a notion of, you know, progression in the way sanctions are being implemented. a course has announced indeed that today they will be sending a well 2 separate missions, one with military officials to figure out the security environment and stakeholders, and another one that will be much more political it's, it's important. i think that we take the time to look into how these nations are going to play out. first of all, how the dialogue is being to evolve between

a class and then you know, people holding are working as we speak. now of course in the current and environment in the region, the fact that, you know, as you mentioned, a sanctions that were recently imposed in man, i had a very in i'm in the, had a strong impact in terms of increasing that in popularity of a who was, is definitely something that was the organising will have to be careful in the way to advances in order not to not to oppose. ready sha public opinion, let's put some of those points now to our 3rd guest. joining our discussion now from casablanca, as adam, a gay, political analysts specializing in this a hell and west africa. and mr. gay is also the former director of information for echo, as mr. gave welcome to the program and let me put some of that that which we've been discussing to you. echo as leaders are on their way to book in

a far so just how much confidence do you think that they will be arriving with to find a way out of the situation that book in a far so it finds itself and now at least we can find some wisdom in this approach that they are having we're looking for. so a contrary to what the faggot on monday when the just imposed contingent functions, economic and a furniture on monday. at least this time around the i've sent people who can talk to the school because military, in order to see why they have decided to move and proper, the civilian president, rockmart cavalry. that's a good move. secondly, to send a political team of, from a cost or so at this early stage is also a good move, at least to have a proper assessment to hear it from the horses mouth. instead of just taking

a decision union or to leave by leaders. we're really out of contact of the review of what's going on in the countries the making of the community. so will they change the situation? will they follow the mediately to we go? i don't think so because the military is booking for so in money and also in good canada and across west africa. they've come to the conclusion that the civilians will be in charge recently in the names of democratization process have not been delivering on results. and then it makes sense for them to move in, in order to fix the security, not only of their country to preserve also their sovereignty, and the fees delivery committee, they have and the fees, but not only by the people of the country where those who will make but also across the african continent and beyond in the last 4 are people. i think we want

a new independence to get rid of the political rent is when taking control of the countries and to make sure that this happened. we may have to go unfortunately, to military room, and this is not something that's on the i'll forward that to got because remember in 1974 in put to go, when do you meet the truck and did the addicted to regime what rose core do revolution these are you that made put together, become the democrats. we celebrate today. so why not africa is to change wrought and ensure that they are bringing about do objective the or we are dreaming of that showing us democratization process not affect one under the control of civilian when making civilian bush and therefore the military are rifle to counter power and that's why the booking at the military,

they are right or so to refuse decisions that would be imposed on them. but of course, mainly in the because they are sometimes a directed by the front and other forces behind. let me put, let that some very interesting and some would say controversial point of view. let me put that to david david auto. could this military transition? do you think? i mean, how often do military crews lead to a truly democratic transition? do you see that happening? here or is it just too early to say? i think it's difficult to make everything so we've got to treat uniquely. but do i think that the military would be sent to an in transition? i don't think so because the current situation, one of the key reasons why the military has to sell for the military, don't you know, to be clear. so you, but the president is that they want to be able to stabilize the country and get rid

of the archive groups that are within the country on the region. so i don't see any hopes in terms of the green party to actually be because one of those why i think it will be a repeat of what is happening in muddy which you know, of course it was, has sanctioned and you know, money has to be it will be the support. busy of information. now, why i think, you know what, this is, go work in the middle of the base. i mean, this has to be entirely cool. one should know that it is some of his melodies, and it was failed to prevent that constitutional. who's that according countries that i, because with the president they had changed because edition

and we cannot, you know, we can see a situation where it was back in one form of call or sitting very quiet. and then, you know, back in, you know, try to explain, you know, changes in a little country like in the bay. so let's book, you know, they did make a decision and miss motor on just how much again, how much of a credibility problem does echo was have not just because of how the recent sanctions that it's imposed. and molly seemed to have backfired. but it's, you know, it's perceived silence on alteri and accesses and other countries in the region. you know what you spoke about as constitutional manipulation in places like ivory coast and guinea, a dash legitimizing. you know, it's the presidential term. exactly. i mean, these kind of policy spent to have been extremely controversial. what they do is

that they, they project the notion that a supporting a double standard approach to democracy in good governance. one of the one hand being quite a heavy handed against against substitution, all changes of government such as the military we have in now in, in madison, trying been in and now in the bathroom while all the other and being quite complacent. in fact, when i'm with a company mingling with constitutions in order to maintain themselves from power. and this was seen in a and in i, because last year, so here i think what we're seeing is a crises of the model of democracy that a crisis is promoting. which seems to be quite focused on the procedure or aspect

of democracy, having elections and making, i mean going through the various steps by the books. the products missing, perhaps in the organization's approach, is much more principles commitment to what happens between 2 elections, not just at the elections. mm hm. but the governance that happens between the 5 years also that's run from one election to the other. how, how transparent, how accountable, how attentive to public needs. exactly. governments are. this is something where there is a high level of public demand, and where it says mediation has been limited and so not ok. so mr. gay, i want to bring you in here because, you know, you are in the unique position to tell us about the inner workings of echo us. he would of your, the former director of information for echo us. so how does that got to this point where, you know, the leading west african economic block has such a crisis of credibility is so obvious,

a former director of communication, of course, i'm currently living in political exam because in my own country synagogue with democratic rules. and the freedom of expressions are respected. i will judge for no reason illegal reason by the government of mucky says, who does not respect the rules. so this is an indication that is not only in the countries of the for experience really to the good of this is happening with, with such a got and go there for that course is a credibility program in my mind. and i said, you not, you know, you do not, you know, for i wrote it in the west african but it is i created when i was of course, the denise of course it needs to be change because the community was created in may 1975 on growth, it may 1975 to 100 economic issues in the midst of the cold war when the war,

the countries making it, or would you budget for ideological reasons. now the post cold war, the brand new, the cost is our digit right for you and saying that the concept itself is outdated and it's no longer fit for purpose. let me, let me put that to david auto because there have been 3 military clues in west africa in the past 18 months. again, if equis is facing such a serious credibility problem, what does that mean for stability in the region? i think there is total tales and you know, i am a create that we could see for the countries in west africa looking at these malia and looking at a guinea template. i'm thinking okay, we can, we can do to say you don't remember my cool part of the said it was, isn't economic community or where stuff you go, you know what? and he has no standing army, so he cannot enforce. busy to live that you know,

he can detect all the countries from doing the same. i mean, he was serious. what they would have done as regional body would have been to come up with what you know, that will be deployed in any event that one of the members was facing the major. cool. but they refused to do that, you know, as membership states and, and this is coming back to home. right. so i think it's going to be very challenging aspect in terms of the region, because we're not just talking about the west africa region here, which is close to the left and, and there's been a 4th coup in the central african region. and that same time period period, we just have a couple of minutes left. and i'd love to hear from both of our other guests before the end of the show miss mater on what do you think about the suggestion that was needs to actually have a sort of an armed unit which works in the region. i mean,

would that help improve security in the region? so again, i would really question against these kind of recommendations. first of all, it does have a stand by force. it actually made reference to the possibility of activating the stand by force, which isn't something that would be a step in the right direction. so i would actually, i completely challenge what they just just said. the worst thing that can happen right now in this were a major security. crazy happening is on top of the national government. and army has been fighting to have these groups and form for them to also have to fight other west african a truce. let's not forgetting the keys of money, for instance, that it was has it was member states have deployed extended numbers of troops in

money to support the fight against terrorism for support. mission from 2013 and all the way until now to the 2013 with mother african lead a shipping mission and then, and then until now to them. it's not so political whose are a political issue, a military issue that that should be crushed. this has been tried in the past and it resulted in massive, massive damage to say thank you for that. and i'm just going to give this to gay. the last word here, what is it going to take place for the security situation to improve and booking a fossil and the role of echo was in, in the west african region brittany, this, the programs have to be fixed by the book and i made them sense this is in general and it has to be fixed by the book in a b, that's korea. secondly,

of course they will. i think 3 things need to be mentioned quickly. first is poor cut me, one does presented, but governance leads to me to go and leads to the necessity to bring about good governance in economic management of the countries. second, there is the need for rule of road to be respected in primitive, across the region. and so i do believe the time is come to create a new brand new. this is more appealing for a call was in the should be called the west african organization because the cost is no, no the an economy organization is handling democracy, environment energy for peacekeeping. all the other issues, so they need to change the name because it was created in 1975 to be just an economy organization. it is no longer in economic organization. it does move, need to be taken into account to create a new debate, wanted regional competition to make a new engine block or

a 100 or to program. be more serious that, of course, is the bus to mr. gay. thank you very much for that. and thank you to all of i guess adam gay or nella more to ron and david auto and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com. and to further discussion, they go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash ha, inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter, handle it at ha, inside story from me, elizabeth toronto, and the whole team here. bye for now. the story of zimbabwe, in her words, history is always told from the perspective of the great man, whether it's david livingston, all robot mcgarvey. my responsibility is to tell,

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