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a, the nato countries have passed her program of partnership for peace. on this day, 30 years ago, ukraine and great britain have established diplomatic relations during this 30 years, where they have been full of for friendship support and meaningful activities. and today, our ties awakened together for the sake of peace for the sake of preventing the new war. and to day again is a special day on the 1st of february was the 1st volume of oxford dictionary published the a lexicon griffey are always a point. the day that the word of the year and i to her that the word of this year will be peace for this 100 for this millennia and her and of for the whole time or that the world. the last and thank you for this dialogue for this
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corporation. thank you for this visit boris. thank you for attention. order. historically brittany tucker, reach me at all id statement by the prime minister of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. thank you very much. world president, thank you. thank you belong to be a thank you for welcoming us over your magnificent amaran's capacity. that's absolutely fantastic to be back in here and to see the excitement, the boss of this capital, which has changed a lot. i must say, since i was last year or 5 or years ago, i think, and i am in many a interesting a positive ways, but we have to face her a grim reality, which is that as we stand here, i've lot amir today, more than 100000 russian troops are gathering on the your border in perhaps the biggest ministration of hostility towards ukraine in our lifetimes,
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and the potential deployment rules. the 30000 troops that russia said to invade a crimea in 2014. and since that time, of course, as everybody knows, $13000.00 ukrainians have been killed. and ukraine has been plunged into nearly a decade of war. it goes without saying that a further russian invasion of ukraine would be a political disaster as humanitarian disaster. in my view, it also be for russia, for the world, a military disaster as well. and i, the potential invasion completely flies in the face of president putin's claims to be acting in the interests of the ukrainian people. the u. k.
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and other countries will be judged by the people of ukraine and the world on how we respond and how we help since 2015, the u. k. his trained over 22000 ukrainian military personnel and provide the 2200000 pounds worth of normally through military equipment to ukraine. 2 weeks ago, we sent anti tank weaponry to strengthen ukraine's defenses. and today i've announced to for the 88000000 pounds of u. k. funding to support good governance and energy independence in ukraine. this will both, both your efforts, philadelphia and those of others to build a free and prosperous ukranian society. free of align influences alongside the countries. we are also preparing a package of sanctions and all the measures to be enacted. the moment the 1st
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russian tow cat crosses further into ukrainian territory and we have done a listen. pedal is not as a show of hostility towards russia, but as a demonstration that we will always stand up for freedom and democracy and ukrainian sovereignty in the face of aggression. in recent days, i've spoken to the leaders of the united states, france, germany, italy, of nato, secretary general, and others all agree on the fundamental importance of supporting ukraine's self determination. because the people of ukraine has the inalienable right to choose how they are governed, and indeed which organizations they aspire to join. and as your friend and partner the u. k, will always uphold that, right?
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it is vital that russia steps back can choose, is a pop of diplomacy and i believe that is still possible. we are keen to engage in dialogue. of course we are, we have the sanctions ready by providing military support, and we will also intensify our economic corporation because we are a firm and enduring ally of ukraine and the support of ukraine's territorial sovereignty and integrity. thank you very much. deco shuttling collectors all the melissa, potentially gentlemen, a prime minister and the president are prepared to answer a couple of questions. maybe say, please just wait for your mike. good afternoon gentlemen. i'm prime minister 1st. have you done enough to survive?
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you've done enough to persuade enough police to rescue your premise and on the issue, ukraine. why should the international community take your diplomacy seriously? when you'll say preoccupied at high, when you put talking to m. p. 's. ahead of talking to president putin. a. mr. president, if i ask, do you believe that the prime minister and his american allies are exaggerating the threat from russia? and can you also tell us more about this new tripartite relationship between ukraine, the u. k. opponent. thank you. let me, let me get a change when you're just say that i my focus is entirely on a delivery on the priorities of the british people and they include ensuring that. 2 we are as secure in our relations with our friends and allies and law. friends and allies are secure. and i think there's
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a great deal of concern in our country about what we're seeing on the border with ukraine. and it's absolutely vital that the u. k. government should a step up now a, bring together our friends and partners in the west in the way that we are prepared to package. if you could, is that we have them, as you know, we've intensified them now and the, the package that we're bringing forward. the, the new legislation will enable us to pinpoint the commercial interests of russia strategic, commercial interests of russia in a very, a direct way as well as individual rushing of commercial interests. and i think it's vital. but in moscow they understand that there will be automaticity in the way that we apply these, these sanctions. so that the minute there is a further incursion into a sovereign ukrainian territory than those sanctions i will apply. and i know that
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that's also the, the position of our american allies. and what we're hoping is it will be the, the general position. and that's what we're working to achieve. but we're also doing what we can to strengthen ukraine's ability to, to resist. and that's why they sent the 2000 got to tank weapons. that's why we're continuing with training under operation overland. and i've sent more troops side to that end. but i think that's the single most useful thing we can all do is get over to the russian public to, to the citizens in russia. thinking about this possibility, the reality that the ukranian army will fight. and there are 200000 uh, medical alms in ukraine. they will put up a very, very fis, i'm bloody resistance. i think that the parents,
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mothers in russia should reflect on that fact my hope very much that the prism bruten. i stepped back from the path of conflict and that we engage in dialogue and that is what the u. k. is, is intent on producing and that's why we're today decorative attorney. thank you for your question. first of all, i will answer very briefly regarding the platform that was established between ukraine, britain and poland. first of all, i would like to say that that's a fairly good platform to discuss security and trade on the level of the minute. foreign ministers, we already started working and i think we will be able to share more details when on the level of the leaders of the states roll starter that work as well in terms
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of exaggerating or underestimating the threats. it's difficult to answer your question. and boris mentioned this, no one can predict or know what will happen next. no one gives 100 percent assurance or guarantees to anyone, especially us. the people who back in 2014 could not have even as expected to have the war on our terrain and prior territories to be occupied. that we would have a war conflict and that we will suspend relationship with our neighbors towards whom a large percentage of ukrainians have had good sentiments. because we had joined families, there was joined business, there was join history and many other things that we don't have any longer and this is in the past. so how can you surely say that someone is underestimating among the
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european leaders that there will be escalation and others are exaggerating? it's difficult to say on that question. we simply have to be fair. we have to be powerful. as a country, we have to have a very powerful army and count on ourselves. we have to be prepared for bad things. and this is true, this is what we're doing. no matter what the allies and unions re have. and we're open to new unions and alliance and our doors are open, our windows are on for that, but we don't know ran that will happen. and that is a very big, big risk for ukraine. 3rd or so under estimating risks or is to have a big, powerful army that will just be, they're not advancing. we're defending ourselves with defending our country. and i
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think it's only fair because these are our trains. these are our culture where protect our cultural traditions, language and we 1st of all and from, for most protecting our people. and there will be a high risk for anyone who will try to occupy even a bit of at her tree. very high risk. why? because on the don bass and the part of the ukrainian don barza, which is not occupied there are people living there and they see water. what is happening on the occupied part of it? how that on boss was destroyed, how the famous stadium that and battery and i was, is destroyed, damascus to be a very developed city. there were code towns and cities and everything was well developing, comparing now what were they have now and what they used to have ukrainians can see what can happen. this is why they're going to stand until the very end. and
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therefore, i think that's a very important argument that the boys also mentioned. it's an important statement that russians should hear us. they should, they should listen and understand that the war is something. no one really needs her bad. at the same time, we have not. and why did anyone to come and visit us with the weapons in their hands? our country has changed since our society has changed. our armies differ, and many a various changes have happened and the occupation of a city or a territory will not happen. unfortunately, there will be a tragedy in case of powerful escalation against our state. and therefore, i'm being very open. this is not going to be a war of ukraine and russia. this is going to be a european war,
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a full fledged war, because no on is going to give away a territories and people any longer. inter fax, please. a good evening into this into facts ukraine near in a car. but my question to the president of ukraine regarding the minsk a treaty them is, is it possible to implement minsk agreement or is it possible to have a fully fledged implementation uminski ingredient. thank you for this question. i dont even remember who signed minsk agreements, but i know for sure who should be implementing them. we are the country responsible for this, and we are responsible for any documents and treaties that have been signed ribbing her very dutiful,
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ranter know responsible regarding this when to stand ward minsk agreements. ah, there have been created by the normandy format and these days a normandy format. luckily or not is the only format that rags that allows the leaders of the countries to meet. so that rises as we have seen, have met. and what there is are in the result of this lesser less firing less tension or has come to be. of course we cannot resolve all the questions, but nevertheless, on demand some group, they agreed about ceasefire regime. and no one is saying we don't have wounded people, or we completely have stopped her casualties and deaths. unfortunately, this still happens. but the degree of this has been reduced,
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which is very important because someone is making these agreements, someone is say thing and working 247 for this to happen. and no one says thank you for that. only the parents who has saved the lives of their children because of these agreements will say, thank you, i'm not saying this is an ideal situation and this is the only platform for negotiations to you and no, any other ones tell me we are working and fighting for at least something to be efficient and to work, we call upon the leaders of 4 countries to meet in the norman to 4 countries. and you understand which leader has not yet made up his mind to made or not. we're doing all it takes, someone looks at this and says, while you're doing something and others things that, that is that everything is possible if we pursue the spouse and on the daily basis
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. when would they men meet and under men's trauma at on the normandy, you have to understand with that this meetings can bring about less tensions at that. if it hadn't per happened, people could have died. more people could have died. this why it matters. this is why i don't want to talk about in minsk agreement items. we can have different attitude and add to the to these items and to the sequence and how they need to be implemented. we're adults. we are adult boys. we need to do something that can d, occupy our territories, something that at least protects our country in one way or the other. that's what i mean. on the other hand, in parallel, believe me, we're doing a lot of negotiations and talks regarding the trilateral formats. a regarding bilateral for contacts with russian federation and that isn't easy,
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but no one is complaining. we will still win, in this case will when be a police and primary stress, the need for dialogue with russia that send the crisis to number 10. could you to delay or even council? you'll talk about teaching yesterday. will you help draw a line underneath the saw that by connecting to publish a full gray inquiry, including any of the 300 tough pitches, she likes of nets, and we keep the public in the dark and present to let's see what, what you want to do to help keep a fight russian aggression and which sanctions against vladimir putin and possibly be of help. and you think monday at getting an acute attack. deathly muddy from the kremlin being lords in food city under thank you very much. of course, we'll publish everything that we can as soon as the the process has been completed . as i said, as i said yesterday,
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and i on your point about vladimir putin and i think for me also a question earlier, i'll be talking to president putin to morrow. and i just, somebody said it will be exaggerating the threat where, where the u. s. and the u. k. a in any way trying to, to, to big this op, i just got to say that is not the intelligence the west. this is a kira bread present danger. and we see large numbers of troops massing the sea preparations for all kinds of operations are consistent with a, an imminent military campaign. and the reason we think it's important for the u. k . to take the role that we are in trying to bring the west together is because yes, of course it's about ukraine and that matches deeply to us. but this is about something even bigger. i'm afraid it's about the whole european security
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architecture. because be in the dark about what i think president putin is trying to achieve. i think that he is trying, by holding a gun. is it what we had in ukraine by intimidating or ukraine to? yes, us to change the way we look at something that was absolutely fantastic. when i was a young man, the budding war came down. we had the doctrine of a europe, whole and free. any country could choose. it's a, it's independent sovereign destiny in the hold of the european languages. that was a fantastic thing, a fantastic thing. and i think what is happening now is that the president of putin, russia, is trying to undermine those immense gates and to redraw the security map of europe and to impose a new, a new you. also a ban falls and it wouldn't just be you crate that was drawn back into the rushing share of influence. you've got to think about georgie. one thing about mold
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of other countries. and so this is absolutely critical. this moment it's vital that we stand together with ukraine in, in the way that we are. and that's why i all the measures that the case is putting in place. i think that's important. that's why i will continue to, to work very hard. but i just repeat what i said, our view is that a time is urgent and this is something that needs to be addressed. not. i'm sorry, would you mind repeating your question? the part that you addressed to mr. migrate incident. i didn't hear that. it's a final question. i'm sorry, and he just think about sanctions out that the sanctions bits and was warned. do you think personal sanctions against vladimir putin could help fight russian aggression? and do you think you guys getting enough to tackle that? jackson, my linked, the kremlin, being washed for the city of london and pipes. the
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dinah, thank you for this question. first of all, regarding the t menilli or the guys in london rational and it goes, well, you know, it would be good if we could deal without the garza meanwhile, they also have and keep their money in certain capitals. i think if london is serious about these matters, we would support this very much because of, for us to your earlier causation is a very important process. we already voted in the parliament of ukraine, the 1st law on de earlier causation. and this is the beginning, are very difficult reforms. since britain is competing this phenomena, you have to understand that it's not easy going here as well. they shouldn't be impacting and influencing the economy of the country. not to mention the politics.
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this dis, to belies, is the situ elicitation domestically. and i would like to say that for ukraine, the most important these days is a stable situation inside the country because you can em in france hours and escalate and escalate only when the country is weak. structures and, and entities that her laundry money or take the money out of the country or impact the media environment or political environment. political conjuncture, the economy of the state or big business with manipulates or large companies is dangerous for the country. and it's crazy weakness. weakness of the power means weakness of the institutions and the if to to sions are weak, the state is re, can this week state cannot protect their citizens. and when this happens, the degree of escalation becomes the highest and the most dangerous. that's
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what it is about in terms of how sanctions can, could stop the escalation, preventive sanctions, land you asking me. i would say that they would work if stay i introduced prior to escalation. if i understood your question proper, they would, would they stopped escalation. so last, introduce them 1st. let's impose them 1st and then we'll see o'quinn forum place a panhandle partition to for the prime minister. could you tell me the recently when, when, when they talk about escalation between ukraine, russia, mostly they mean the land of frontier, but the we also have the, as of see and the black sea. could you, tommy ward,
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others raised as you can see in the water basins of the black sea and as of say, and how could you help ukraine to prevent escalation in those 2 seas and the question to the president of ukraine. val at emerald sanders. just a couple of days ago, russian federation stated that they are withdrawing part of the troops, allegedly, from the russian ukrainian border. according to your information, has this withdrawal happened actually, and what is, what are the numbers of the russian contingent on the board is right now. you are. thank you very much. i should have, i should have mentioned albert, or will we also have a naval agreement with that with ukraine. and i believe we've recently done a deal for some of some minesweepers to help in the credit borders as well. the zachary of rata which does at this time,
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i would like to say that the question of a developed and strengthened naval fleet of ukraine. if i could add to, to this 1st question of the you asked the prime minister. the question of support are, by though great britain for ukraine in developing our naval fleet. this is not something we will solve today, and this will not protect us today in the black sea, and it will not protect the the as of, and the black sea. but this will be a very powerful step forward which would in future protect our territories. and this was a basis and we are, i would like to thank the prime minister. we've initiated this question couple of years ago now we've moved into practical steps,
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naval bases. and i think that will contribute a lot to, to this cause in terms of the number of the troops i, i guess your question is not about the occupied territories, but about the border of between ukraine and rush. i think that that's what the question is about. because we understand the around 35 to 50000, depending on the point of rotation, is the number of soldiers and equipment which is present in the occupied crimea. and herb, guarding and about 3035000 on the in the occupied on bass and about 100000 along the borders where between ukrainian russian federation in terms of the withdrawal. we are looking forward to moment in time very much when russia will withdraw an army from our borders. this is a very powerful signal,
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and that will be the only trustworthy response to russian federation to the question, to russian federation, whether they are going to continue the escalation or not, this is, will be a direct response. we don't need words, just make that one step psychologically. it will be import not only for the crane and people and european citizens, but for russians as well. because i know many russians don't want to fight and die in the war. ready against to crane. so i would i wouldn't be so happy prematurely happy because we have seen such stabs. we have seen that information last year, for example, when there were my military drills. russia said publicly that they were would withdraw. they did withdraw troops and then march of that withdrawn contention came back. so it's the moment of retest location and maneuvering or
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trying to scare or psychological prize, psychological pressure. we do see some rotation of the military. but i would like to be open in this answer because it's important for the people of ukraine. i will be able to, to say that russia has withdrawn their troops only when they do so. thank you. this is the end of a, a session. thanks for. thank you very much. again. yeah. so that horace johnson, the u. k. prime minister in the cranium president vladimir zelinski. while the oppressed conference or after talks over the crisis in ukraine with a $100000.00 russian troops at their border, broke, johnson said, this is a clear and present danger roadways. lensky saying that if this happens at this will be a european war, a fully fledged or so let's bring in our cross one hot abraham at who's standing by
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1st in care of and order a brush. johnson also saying that the invasion of russian invasion would be a political disaster, humanitarian disaster, and flies totally in the face of what russia is saying that it is acting in ukrainian interests. that yes, what boys johnson not saying anything new them. and he started his press conference by saying that he came to ukraine to face a grim reality and that grim reality being the biggest show of hostility towards ukraine in our lifetime. ah, now, boys johnson went on saying that, you know, you gave will continue to support the ukraine. ah, because this is not only about russia and ukraine, but it's also about the bigger picture in europe about this, the future security architecture of europe. that's how he described it.

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