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for systems that relate large soft livelihood opportunity to local people. birdwatchers hope the annual census will lead to better conservation policies. they hope for more government funding and better protections. their efforts are slowly bearing fruit avenue, middle august era. new delhi, a torch relay has started the to the count down to the beijing winter olympics. china's vice prime here, let the flame and handed it to the 1st horse farrah, 80 rolls lose. tuan is a former olympic gold medalist skater torchbearer as will take turns running with a beacon through the 3 zones. hosting games until friday. ah hello again. the headlines on al jazeera this. our gunman in the democratic republic of congo have killed at least $72.00 people in the eastern province of tore fighters and the co operative for the development of the congo known as coda
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cove are suspected of carrying out the attack. the arm group has killed hundreds of people in the region since 20174002 flee their homes. i spoke to our county earlier and he has more from neighboring you gone to capital compiler. what we know is just a number, which is really crazy, according to people around there. so those in touch of the management of the cobb county thought this is one of the capital organization. one of the quick cut equals, in addition to area de call form. they could call me to see how did this come during the night time and the start killing population start killing the displace menu from him. tribes because we have to understand the have many victims of the code groups getting his hours president. tomorrow's to so got involved says he survived and attempted to after gunman attacked the government palace on tuesday. the president says the situation is now under control. russia,
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the president has accused the west of trying to lower him into war with ukraine. vladimir putin says he wants to resolve the crisis. frances, for a minister says there is no indication russia is ready to take action. american fighter jets and a worship are being sent to the united arab emirates following this all attacks by who the rebels in yemen. the 3rd miss, all attack in 2 weeks, was intercepted on monday, the u. e. as part of the, so the lead mission or any of the south pacific nation of tongue is going back into last down after detecting 5 cobra, 1900 infections in the capital. humanitarian aid has been arriving through the poor, softer last month, underwater volcanic eruption on toonami. we'll have more news on al jazeera at the top of the hour, but up next it's inside story with elizabeth per on him. thanks for watching. the 35th meeting of the african union will see heads of states discuss cobra 19 in the
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conflict in ethiopia with climate change, but came across. so another west african, who's high on the agenda, can they deliver a unified response to the regents mounting challenges, special coverage on out jazeera ah, can young mother turn to democracy a year after the military coup public institutions. and the economy have collapsed and international diplomatic pressure has stalled. so how long can the army resist giving power back to the people? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth parent. m. a year ago, myanmar transition to democracy ended when the military seized power. the army has
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ignored international pressure to reinstate civilian rule. the united nations is demanding more sanctions against the genta, calling it a criminal enterprise. a pull. this video was one of the 1st signs of the army takeover and a memorable image of that day. a fitness instructor doing her exercises, while tags rolled into the capital navy door elected leaders, including young san sushi, were arrested and jailed military commander men on lang and posed a state of emergency, and declared himself prime minister. ah, well, the qu triggered some of the biggest protest in yarmouth history. the military is response was swift and violent. some cities held small demonstrations on tuesday's anniversary, but most marked the crew would silent strikes as part of a campaign of civil disobedience, state media, se military leader men on lang has extended the state of emergency for another 6
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months. he's ignored a plan by the association of southeast asian nations are ziann to restore democracy . feeble and myanmar have been speaking to our cause, aunt tony chang, to drive her m a, sit his everyday life. might look like it's normal. but look a little closer roads, a close with barriers, barricaded, military positions, and uniform soldiers on the streets. luckily, i saw the army. this tried to protest. after that, i was very afraid. that's why i'm scared to go out again. but there were more protest beside my house. so i joy if a few say, if i, i would joy to protest. ah, man ma has been ravaged by coven 19 in the past 12 months. the situation intensified after the military targeted medical workers for their involvement and protests and a civil disobedience movement. many were arrested,
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others fled into hiding to day. even basic health care services are scarce as alan, and i think i won't forget that did death hair walkers were arrested and she dare very badly by the army. they even kate, a medicare student, that's why i wanted to touch the horse. peter, in the sit, his food remains plentiful, but prices have risen sharply. elsewhere, supplies and production have run dangerously low. the world food program estimates it needs to provide food for 4000000 people across myanmar in 2020 to 4 times the number before the qu, the economy has gone into free, full banks, limit withdrawals, and foreign investment is pulling out fast. many people ah, lose the jobs, and it is embedding duty and the labor market and also
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a many people are jobless. but of the many job seekers ah, can do the job but be baked less than normal. even basic services like trains and buses are failing. the nation wide rail network has ground to hold. after work has joined the civil disobedience movement and bus prices of tripled as operators abandon standardized rules thornton lawyer. or in my opinion, if we get rid of army rule transport services would go back to normal with properly working buses, a normal ticket prices only historically, the people of ma'am are used to military rule. but after a decade of progress and development, the last 12 months is leaving many feeling as if they are returning to the past. tony ching al jazeera. ah, well let's bring in our guests and the tie capital bank cock is debbie's dos hon
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founder and coordinator of all san bernard. that's a network of organizations working on human rights and democracy in myanmar in london. ronan lee fellow at la for university london, an offer of the book and young mas for hang a genocide. and in vancouver and canada, we have yasmin law overhang of human rights activist, a very warm welcome to the program. and i'll start with you. miss started in bangkok, given the state of the country, has the military clue been a failure? all elizabeth, this who has been a tragic failure. tragic for the people in the country, but definitely a failure. father hunter, senior gentlemen, are lying and his military, a cronies sent and he did not expect the level of determination and sustained resistance, mainly from young people and women leading this movement. they still have not been able to gain territorial control of the country a year after trying to seize power. and leslie,
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if we look at the resistance that mr. hart has spoken about to the military coup, and that resistance has led to so much violence in many parts of the country. now, the department, un special envoy to me on my has said that the country is on the verge of civil war . do you agree? yes i do. the simple reality is, is that the me and my military has used every tool of violence and oppression at its disposal to try and convince the people of me and not to just quietly accept, to acquiesce to a military coup that had 12 months. and after 12 months, this still not in control of the country. i mean the, the crew has been a disaster for the military. it's been tragic for the people that me or not. but this is by no means a successful code for the military 12 months, and they still cannot embed the code. the question that seriously must be asked now really is if they can achieve that in 12 months, can they ever and that's
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a call to the international community to the un security council to, to get involved in this. because what seems to be happening is that the military cannot win. the people are prepared to let them win, understandably at. but the military are prepared to fight to the last person standing in me and mom to have a chance of winning. and we just simply should not allow that. and there are so many people in myanmar that also seem to be willing to fight to the very last person. yasmina and vancouver has the military cou. i mean, it has been devastating and a disaster for most of the people in young maha against it, but what impact hasn't had on the countries ethnic minorities like the ringer? oh, well it's, it's just indescribable. and we've had the military targeting
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us with, you know, all kinds of violence and intense to, to destroy the entire communities for many, many decades. and this is just a for edmond community is just another day of being part of the ethnic communities . i just recently, just within this month alone, there has been a lot of arrest and penalize ation of move pence for romania. we have 200000 people or ringa are still stuck in apartheid like on conditions in term and counts who are not receiving the aid and you know, proper help from outside nor, you know, the authorities in bolt. and the conditions have just worse and worse and for, you know, for bringing people and other ethnic communities. it's just been hell. and what we're seeing increasingly is that, you know, people who are against the military clue are joining the ranks of different ethnic
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groups around the country and challenging the military. we've seen in recent months the military has lost control of the territory, including and chin and rock hines. dave, the sagen region, the mog way division, debra started. how does that impact the military's hold on the country? is how stretched is the military right now? how much pressure is it under? well the, the honda is relying on air strikes now on civilian areas, including recently and hair strike on lloyd caught the biggest city the state capital of kal ker, any state. so what has happened is that besides launching all stretching out all the a human resources to attack people, the military has also lost thousands of defect, this soldiers and police who defect that from the unfair because they cannot bear what's going on. and instead, the military's now recalling retired veterans do active duty enforcing soldiers,
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wives, and children to do military training. what this is telling us is that they have lot themselves, as ronan says on a path to fight till the last person standing there, not willing to make any compromise or show any mercy. and this in itself has also forced the civilian population to realize that they have 2 choices, fight or flee, and most of them cannot run away. so the folks asked are being forced to stand yet there to still do, to fight back or in order to guarantee the, our own survivor. but let's also remember that what we are facing is the scale of atrocity crimes and conflict that in since september every month, the number of attacks hurting people military attacks, harming people in myanmar has actually been more than afghanistan in syria combine
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. that's how serious the conflict is. absolutely thousands of civilians have been killed around 1500 and the protests that followed the military coup often peaceful protests around a 3rd of those who were in custody and from torture. but we've had many others have been killed in the fighting that's been going on in the countryside, often this civilians. mr. lee, what is it going to take, you know, for the international community to do more we have had the united states, britain and canada impose a new sanctions on young muslim tree. after the past year of chaos, they've been blacklisting. more people who are linked to the gender, do you see these latest round of sanctions making? any difference to what's been happening in the country over the past year was anxious the target, the military's economic base would certainly help. but the intellectual communities to be much more than imposed sanctions, the needs to be
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a global arms embargo on me. and i mean, the mere mom military should not be able to die and tomorrow, and next week to continue to buy weapons, to turn on its own people and vast the responsibility of the united security cancer . and that has, it hasn't been voted on that at the security cancer. it's time the u. s. i in the u . k. and others stepped up and put this to avoid at the united nations security cap . so let's actually work out where the political will is for action and we're, it, is that, and if the problem here is that china would threaten a visa, or would we talk? then this becomes china's political problem, that china won't want that, because china has a very long land border with me and it doesn't want to catastrophe next door. but it's philosophically against intervention if you can avoid it. and it will be signaling perhaps to others that it might feature, but i'm not sure that it will in the current circumstances, the atrocities that we saw from the me and my military during december. i mean burning alive. 31 people who were fleeing violence. i mean with that was on
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christmas 8th. there was a peaceful protest in yan gone. during december, the military drove a truck at the protesters at full speed, other instances, and other parts of the country where we've seen collective punishment of civilians . so if there was militia action against the military and the military, or losing quite often when them, when these militias take them on, they punish the local community by bo, burning alive, 11 people, including children. i mean this, this is a brutal and cruel military that should not be in power in me and my, and i would, and there are and, and there are a number of people who are saying that there needs to be that they, they can't be any weapons or money being supplied to the military gender, but who is it that is supplying those weapons and money? mister lee will china and russia are selling weapons among others to the children.
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i mean that there john is the biggest supplier to the john to russia, as has also emerged, particularly since the code as coin involved in terms of providing arms to, to, to the toronto with me. and my, i mean, russia gains access to a port on the, by a big goal because of that. but russia doesn't share a border with me. and so russia really cares a lot less than china does. i don't think china wants. i mean, china had indicated it was not happy with the fact of the code, whatever about the situation afterwards. i'm not sure china wants to face the potential of years and years of catastrophe in a country where she has a 1500 kilometer land order. i mean, people will flee across that border and that will be a problem for china. i mean, i think it's in china's interests as much as it's in the interest of the people that me and mom to resolve this as quickly as possible. and i want to talk a little, just a little bit about how we've got here, you know,
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to this point because how much has the international? yes, ma'am, and i'll bring you in here. now, how much do you think the international communities, lack of action so far? has been reminiscent of what happened you know, the lack of, of the response or lack there off to the $26.00. 17 for hang a crisis. when condemnation wasn't matched with actions and how much do you think that lack of action has contributed to the military's decision to launch the current? could you know, convinced that it might face condemnation, but little else from the u. n. a western governments, as, as mr. lee has been writing well there are a lot of elements of economic interest with me and are, and there are very specific enterprises, including b, m, e, l, m a c, and the military, oil and gas company that have been actually getting revenues from the foreign investors that includes the u. s. canada and south korea and many other democratic nations that actually did not hold the investment or revenue flow into me and
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my military companies doing or after 2017 genocidal campaign. so in that case, the genocide of your people has proven to be quite profitable to the military because they actually did not stock foreign companies and international community from investing within the mar, from actually, you know, adding on to the, to the power and impunity within, within the country and that actually resulted in so many different deterioration within, within the domestic institutions within me and bar. and that includes, you know, criminal justice system and it actually has helped him both in the military. so my thought is actually, you know, today we're, we're seeing the coo and the cycle of violence just never ending. we have seen in the last, just recently debbie's thought had, we've had you know, energy companies,
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chevron totaled these pulling bit and pulling out of me on my are you hopeful by those sort of court push actions? do you think that they could lead to more and lead to some more pressure on the military given that the military does an a lot of revenue from those companies? well, let's face the fact that chevron total and also woodside is tre. leah. and now there are withdrawal from the country also because the reputational and operational risk they were facing outweighed any benefits the profits they could get now or in the future. and that's because the, the hunter itself has wrecked the economic infrastructure of the company of the country. but between now and 6 months ahead, when they pulled out, when they actually pull out the share due to hand over a couple of $100000000.00 of revenue to me and my oil and gas enterprise,
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which is controlled by the who and this is why we've been advocating for sanction so that these companies are compelled to, with this revenues in a trust account, instead of heading it over to the winter. because that money could be used to kill more people. and i would just want to go back to our growing and he was saying about china on the 28th of january, the china, the representative of the un security council shocked us all by talking about the urgency of halting violence in so the beijing is finally admitting, and that is that what is happening in the country does affect china and hopefully china will, will back up those concerns by not supplying any more weapons. so i think that the space is now there the security council for some type of action to be taken and,
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and we shouldn't be high. we shouldn't be afraid of countries exercising the, the, any vito on burma, me and my if they do, then it's time for them to actually own the support for this brutal he hunter instead of trying to prevent anything from being tables in the 1st place. yeah, i mean, it was really, really interesting for china to make that comment saying that there was that urgent need to stop the violence and me on my again, given you know, what does that mean for it's part and again, vote and lee is this the time you know, to, to strike while the irons halt is china signaling that perhaps it would, we'll use a veto power to vote in a way that you wouldn't expect it to the un security council. well, i think when the crew was launched, the chinese ambassador to me and my made a very strong public statement for chinese ambassador,
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which was that the crew was not in china's interests. and that was a strong signal at that time that, that china did not want to encourage the crew and was was, i think, pushing for that to be a negotiated settlement. the chinese authorities had a very good relationship with on sense that she and the national lead for democracy government. so it's that they weren't keen on the curb. i think the issue though now for china is that what they faced with is the situation that is a prolonged conflict within me and on its doorstep. that's the choice. the choice is to continue back in the military and accept that there will be a prolonged conflict because the military won't go quietly or take action and bring this to a head sooner and let the people of me and mark be the people who be the one to determine who governs their country. and the alternate for china is they can have peace within me and my with, with the people determining who's in charge or they can have chaos by continuing to
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back the military. i think it's inciteful to that, those major multi nationals are announcing now that they're withdrawing. because i think in some ways that's an indication that that they see the writing on the war 2 . they see that the military is likely to lose at they want to be able to have a working relationship with the new civilian government in the future or and that's a positive side. yeah, absolutely. jasmine. oh, what about assay hands? roland? all of this, you know, me on my, as a member, do you see it playing a more effective role in stopping the violence at the moment? i unfortunately don't, but it does not mean that we cannot continue to engage them. i think there needs to be more international pressure that mounting you know, upon us and to actually do more, especially because of the time burma border and you know, because of the, the airstrikes and many,
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many ways of violence that have happened. there are many roles that i see and can play it on at the very least, ensuring that people are actually kept safe. and i want to ask a question to debbie's, not her, cuz she's actually in bangkok and bangkok and thailand has been the, one of the supporters, you know, in as the on of the, of the military. but while there is so much violence along the border, and you have thousands of people, a crossing into thailand from myanmar which thailand doesn't want, couldn't, can you see that ty authorities changing their view on their support for the military jointer? i think at this point that when we talking about pressure on the winter by the international community, there also needs to be active encouragement and pressure for us to get its act together. and in this case, allowing humanitarian a millions and millions of dollars of humanitarian aid to flow across high borders
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to was communities in urgent need in burma also means a potential of economic recovery in the country did already hit by the covey condemning. so i think it's, it potentially is a win win situation for thailand. it's not in thailand, interest for chaos to rein in law because they, because of the board is situation because of the fact that alongside this violence there's also a co pandemic in progress. that's actually out of control in vermont match, so it's entirely in interest to actually contribute to a buffer zone. a safe buffer zone for ethnic and displace be because he has a in the past few months, is when, when the military who does artillery fire launches mortify on
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people. the current state in the state on the border areas. some of that has actually affect the time people call the tie sign. so yeah, so i think, i think, in terms of human security in terms of economic stability, income of dealing with the public pandemic. it's actually in thailand's interest to the rest of the international community to ease the situation that see if these countries such as thailand and china can work not only in their own interests, but most importantly in the interest of the people of me on my i'm afraid we have run out of time, but i want to thank all of you for the discussion that is debbie. start. hard run, lee, and yeah, then allah and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, do go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at ha, inside story from me, elizabeth bron them and the whole team here,
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