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and it will be quite a bit of a slap in the face is not ah, a fatal punch in any sentence. but they will be very embarrassing for she. jimmy chinese rights activists living in the capital say they've been visited by authorities and want to stay silent during the olympics. within the bubble that i oversee says, athletes are free to express their views outside of formal events or ceremonies. but organizers say, those who break chinese laws with behavior or speech that is against the olympic spirit will face certain punishment. katrina, you al jazeera, they ging, ah, hello again. the headlines on al jazeera, russia is condemning a u. s. decision to send more troops to eastern europe dot com, just turkeys president had secured to try to ease tensions over moscow's military. build up at the border with ukraine. seneca logo has more from istanbul,
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turkey. it is going to try to do a mediation between the 2 countries talk he expresses that it supports the territorial integrity of ukraine. but of course, while doing that also as a later member, a present, our don will have to try to please present a, put into it because it, with russia. turkey has some strategic relations and syria in libya and an egg cutter bothering the armenia as every john coldly. at least 12 people, including 7 children, are reported have been killed in a u. s. light operation in northern syria. an al qaeda affiliated fighter is believed to have been the target in the town of ottoman italy province. the pentagon confirmed us special forces conducted a counter terrorism mission and the rebel controlled area. there were no american casualties. people say they heard shelling on gun fire and homes were damaged. an
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iraq a or a group has claimed responsibility for flying 3 drones in united arab emirates, aerospace. they were all shot down. the golf nation has recently blocked several miss allan drone attacked by yemen. who's the rebels? new zealand has announced the phase reopening of its border. it's been largely closed for almost 2 years under some of the world's toughest corona virus restrictions, vaccinated citizens and australia will be the 1st allowed home without quarantine this month. the u. s. says mysterious and sudden, brain injury suffered by diplomat stationed overseas, were probably caused by pulse electromagnetic magnetic devices. and intelligence panel has been investigating the cause of the symptoms known as have vonner syndrome will have more news on al jazeera at the top of the hour, but up next it's the stream thanks for watching by, by. ready the
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wild water we listen, design is are making furious efforts in order to maintain and disrupt the trend. we need use making storms down to the high end for me. ok down the stream. what's next to the keener, faster off the last week, who the top of the country, the democratic elected president. if you're joining us on youtube, you can use your comments and i live chat and be part of today's program. ah, rising public anger over the country security crisis help fuel the january 24th qu, burkina faso. the constitution has now been restored and the military has named cooley, the lieutenant colonel, poor, henri and dowdy damn uber interim president odyssey was nicholas hark. picked up
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the story from waterloo, were in room cold, the avenue of the revolution, and the billing that you see right next to me is what is left of the national assembly. it was stormed in popular uprising in 2014 and look at it. you can see bullet marks on the building, they've left it like that. so that this building serves as a reminder of the sacrifice is paid by people to restore democracy in this country . it also serves as a reminder to leaders that they are accountable to the people a fast forward to today and their, their coupe, this time led by lieutenant colonel. but i'll read them eva in an address to the nation. he says that he's not going to quash those democratic achievements that have been made in the last 8 years. he says they'll be freedom of speech and an independent justice system. so why this qu then, well, this country is facing attacks from arm groups linked to al qaeda and iceland, they're gaining ground. almost 2000000 people have been displaced in this country.
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3.5000000 people are in urgent need of humanitarian assistance. some of them have sought safety here at the capital walker, due to the amoeba, has called them civilians to take up arms. some say dialogue is a solution that these are al qaeda fighters or iso fighters only by name. they are in fact driven not by ideology. but by poverty in areas where the state has largely been absent. meanwhile, the west african body echo us has suspended burkina faso. it sees this latest who has said back to democracy, that has seen a series of cruise in the region. there has been though criticism of the institution is seen by many as a presidents club more interested in protecting its own interests than the interests of the people there is here at the heart of what we're seeing, our crisis of trust in democracy in the way that it's being played out in these various countries, including burkina, faso, nicholas hawk,
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anyone going to group for the streaming diane conversation today to really unpack what is happening in the kina fast i from down on the ground we have lisa and we have ha marie. really nice to have basically with us a san please introduce yourself trusting audience. tell them who you are, what you do where come back to us army, just them i went and and the nice to have here on the street, please introduce yourself to o'clock when you get to you soon. my name is henry, i'm a journalist. i've been based in a to you became for so for 2 years now, i'm a freelance work in television or radio and has really been covering the security situation here for, for a couple of years now. so, i mean, because hark did as a special story for a special report fashion, we were just watching, right? that was the beginning of the week. and really showing us what was happening on the
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ground in his analysis of what led to the qu, if you could take me a routing day, what is the most for like, what's happening? yeah, i mean, since the key took place, things really calm down on the streets of why get to you on monday or last week when, when the key was happening? i mean, there were some soldiers on the street or taken over the national broadcaster and so on, but really the following day, this is all started to, to dissipate. things are calm now. today is the national football team is competing in the b. com for football tournament. and, you know, people are, people are turning out on the streets to, to watch that and venues around the, around the city. and yeah, i mean, if you, if you were to just go out onto the street so i could see you can, you really wouldn't notice that much kids had changed. i'm wondering about the
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reaction because on some of the reaction videos that i saw from people in the streets, there were rush and flags people were celebrating. the qu had happened. does that give us a sense of the public's opinion of the q? yeah, absolutely. so i mean, the day after the queue happened, several 1000 people turn out on the street so far like the plastic national, where many demonstrations that take place. and what was interesting was the demonstrations, which a, which happened before the, before the key had been stopped from happening in the, in the class. the la national by local police, were talking about demonstrations to show support for the military and protest. the former governments are handling of security in the country. i mean, these were protest demonstrations that will tell you with the use of force tear gas and so on. and so seeing this for the square fill for the 1st time,
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and it was a, you know, you really gave you an idea that something had changed. and, you know, a lot of people were, were out on the streets and showing a lot of support for the, for the new military government. i mean, something else though, it's really striking, was that we even saw people waving russian flags either the demonstrations to celebrate the day after which um yeah, for all sorts of reasons is raised a lot of questions. go into the kind of national conversation here in bikini fast. so this whole thing of whether the existing or status quo and we've international partners in terms of security, it's really working, you know, became faster. it's been working closely with, with france on security matters over the last,
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last 56 years. and the fact the security really hasn't improved has led some people to stop wondering if there needs to be a shakeup of bikini faster, has international military partners, which has led some people to, to look towards possibly russia. i want to bring in any advice into our conversation, this is daniel and that is a research fellow at the african center for strategic studies at health related question here. the media impact of the military current key foster is, is just want to disruption and diversion, that diversion of attention. a diversion of resources, a diversion of personnel and confusion around the situation and who's really in charge in the long terms. this presents opportunities for difference arm to groups, criminal groups to take advantage of that confusion and further embed in terms themselves in the hospital in working across the countryside. this will make
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confronting that's more complicated, presents a greater challenge and ultimately results in pessimistic outlook. 2 things i'm really interested in picking up on a one is who's really in charge. yeah. yeah. so i mean, i think the, the, it's pretty clear that the pull on read, the neighbors he said has, has taken control. i mean, the, the army is very much now in control of became a facets, swept away this democratic government, which was in place for um, for, and 6 years or so. yes, the army is in is in control of the, of the politics of bikini faster and certainly the major towns and cities venture outside into the outside of the large towns and cities into the country side. and i stay control is really just full and away v, as i said,
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the conflict between our groups linked to al qaeda and is having state has been going on for for 6 years now. and in the more remote parts of the country side it's, it's not the state that's in control. it's not the army that's in control. the fighting a losing battle. and these aren't groups. are the ones that are, you know, are free run of the place and to a certain degree they are at least attempting to carry out some functions of the state in their own way. so yeah, and show answer to your question. i mean the, the, the military, it seems now controlled the, the major towns and cities in the country side. it's, it's the alt greets i want to bring in this, this tweet, this is from she got a mom, a man who knew that we were doing this program to day. and on this tweet, he brings up some of the issues that i want you to unpack for us, henry, and he talks about the dire human security conditions in bikini fuzzy that they're
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complex. there's food insecurity, there's a social tensions as, as political tension as well. people use that phrase, insecurity or lack of security. what does that really mean? hm. if you're going to take a somewhere, show a someplace. explain how people behave. that is such a threat that people welcomed some of them. welcome to qu, yeah, i mean, as i say, so our, in the country side, we're talking about small villages and so on, where they don't see any evidence of the state. really. i mean, those security forces don't make their way to many of these villages or other functions of the state luggage. additionally, and so on, don't apply their rule of law or is, is weak there. so what that means is that these aren't groups are essentially able to ride into these villages on motor bikes, unhindered,
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harass the local people, try to implement elements of serial law. they start preaching of the mosques there, and i thought you might be giving an idea to the, to the local people of what they don't want to see. and if they don't feel like people don't follow these rules, they know and they for and then with violence. and often this whiten this threat, turns into a very real attacks where, where these, these turret groups right into the, to the villages and really just massacre people. i mean, middle of last year in june saw the largest attack since became fast. those conflicts began where a 106, the civilians at the very least, were killed that not, he's in all gold mine in the, in the north of the country. and here, i mean, as you right, he said it's, it's
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a complex thing. i mean developments in these areas of the country is really lacking as well. so, you know, people are people, it's a big push factor for people to join these arms groups as well. the fact that they've just been neglected by the government and, and something else that we're seeing in these areas of the country is vigilante groups tossing out as well. so, you know, these groups are not part of the state, but at least they're able to provide some kind of law and order out within these, these parts of the country where, where the state has fallen away. they're not as bad as the, it's the cur creeps run operating in some parts of the country. but even these vigilantes have provide a kind of preschool justice. she has a in her for she writes back human rights,
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right. to say the least. yes. her thoughts, we have some questions on the chair from our audience watching right now had me. so this one at one job quite simply. how are the people doing? is there a sense of getting back to normal? whatever. no more is. and we don't answer quite yet. because i want to go to hell and hater is really concerned about the civilians. we spoke a little bit earlier and this is what she sent us immediately after the back of ages for yet, please pick up the current situation. ember can i? so following the who is likely to increase the amount of human suffering that we have witnessed since 2018. at the end of last year, that 4700000 people were in need of humanitarian aid. and about 1500000 people were forcibly displeased. so the protection of civilians and the unrestricted delivery of humanitarian aid should be at the center of every decision. and it will
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be made about their counsel in the coming weeks and months. yeah, and so, i mean there isn't a sense that the things are getting back to normal. i mean, as you're right, the said, there's a huge humanitarian crisis going on in the country. more than one and a half 1000000 people have already been displaced by the by the conflicts. yeah, i mean the, the humanitarian side of things is, is only getting worse. i mean, i've spoken to humanitarian in the last week or so who say they're protecting the number of people in need of a debate in between. so it could be as high as 2200000 by by the summer. so yeah, i mean, and the other thing is the visibility of the, the space people has been
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a real problem as well with the previous government. there was this, this kind of trucks, your relationship between this humanitarian ministry in particular, the humanitarian organizations that were working in between fossa, which has been well documented. and in fact, me, she monetary and ministry implemented. and on journalists visiting id p sites throughout the country from 2020, which came in the wake of a report which reported on gender based violence happening within id p sites, which, you know, obviously the humanitarian ministry of became fast. i saw this is very about press for them and this is what kind of trick it's this, this panel journalist visiting id p site. so, you know, when the message of this, you know, the images of this humanitarian crisis,
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there's no way for them to, to get out into the, the broader thought international community. he then, and that has made the, the situation worse for the space people in between faster. now, as i say, this was under the, the previous democratic governments. all of the ministers who were part of that government have now been removed from the positions of her lieutenant colonel to me, but to power last week. i really remains to be seen sort of with this relationship that they became a facet house with the media and with humanitarian creeps, who have complaints for the the states has made their operations difficult as well improves that i think that will be a real test of the new search and we mentioned that the can a faster relationship with the media, which is
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a really good point to bring back lesson lesson. and thank you so much for your patience. i hear there's a little funny game going on right now, which may well have degraded our internet connection with me. and so i'm so glad that you're back with us, right. so let me just briefly introduce yourself, told it so that they will empathy. you are the perspective that you're coming from guide, dr. la son, withdrawal, a teacher. as an adjunct professor in one of the private schools here, university, leave it to book, you know, i also teacher at university do about group. but i am also mostly doing research on the ground here and interrupting weaver. a lot of folks who are obviously come here either our media expert or recess expert trying to understand the situation on the ground here over the past 6 months. the sunday is debate and many debate was going on on the line right now on youtube right now, as, as our audience are watching this show. so peter, for instance,
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says if the military can make the keener faster, better, let them continue ruling the country. and then hydro in response, says coups are not the solution. this little debate here is that a debate that is being reflected in country where you are right now. absolutely, that debate is clearly reflected in the country here. we must be follow, clearly stating that we have tried with electro democracy so far. it has not worked properly for us. we had our 1st civilian elected government. and the only thing that we have seen is incompetency in all its forms. the president how don everything he could do, replacing the government several times, replacing key military leaders better the situation, the security situation has not improved and it's gotten worse and worse or people are fed up. so i believe that is a new paradigm in terms of our understanding of what democracy is all
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about. do we have to keep up with that narrow understanding of democracy as the majority, the voice of the majority through electoral voice is where we'll put into place people who are super incompetent or do we try something new? and we might one also pay attention to what is happening overall in the south region that might also be influencing. because clearly deborah and his folks have looked over, and marty and giddy ended up. if you strike right now, you could how populous had to sell and stuff like exactly what about you said, and i'm going to ask you, have you just hold that for? cuz i have to show you this graphic. all right, let's just play the map because listen, you just articulated what i was thinking, what we were thinking back here on the strength. look at these copies of either had successful curves or felt called kings. can it was south felt molly chad guinea peculiar, facile oh hi cruise that must have some kind of ripple impact. i mean,
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what were you thinking? go ahead. yeah, i mean i, i wouldn't say that it's even a debate in bikini faster at this stage. whether like democracy, all military rule is better, everybody that i'm speaking to you practically, everybody that i'm speaking to is really saying now that they want military rule, i mean, became faster. it's only hands or democracy or only had democracy for, for 6 years. from 2015 until, until last week. but, you know, even people who were involved in 2014 insurrection, which was a popular uprising that saw a democracy come in to the, to the country. even the people who were taking some streets and fighting for i'm talking to them now and they're saying no, we want to see military rule. i to mo chrissy just hasn't worked out. so that's so interesting. all right, so we asked earlier some of our audience atlas,
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i'm going to get you to react to this immediately. some of our audience about the number of crews that are happening across the country, particularly in west africa and one i. and then pick up your thoughts immediately off the back as heavily. so let's have a look. every single country has a particular logic that's relevant to its internal dynamics. there's on broad similarities across the region in these countries where who attempts have occurred . and one of them is a broad, political, and public dissatisfaction. i think is important to understand a, some of this occurs within a context of governance failures. the whole purpose of establishing government is so that it provides certain public goods, security infrastructure, social services. and so when whole segments of the population or entire regions of the country live without a meaningful presence of the state, sometimes for decades, it provides a pretext for those looking to overthrow the government or those logan to take up
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arms against it. i what exactly happened in of us, of here and then last contaminant to serve city a president cavalry himself, so he's coming. he has been warned several times that things are not going well for the expectations from the people over the past couple years. the price of the basic necessities are almost triple here, whether even over the past 6 months, in some areas, all of booking of fossil 100 kilograms over of rice, over of a cone. how going from around 20000 sci fi to almost 60000 eva. so how many people can afford to leave under these conditions? and it's not only the songs that are 50 directly affected folks that experienced that in the countryside. but also in the capital city and major cities,
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we talk about the 1500000 internally displaced people. but the truth of the matter is that there's more to the story than that. then booking of us, most people don't run away from the village and go to our cabin, they go to see with relatives in the 1st place. and when the relatives cannot afford to horse them, that's when you go to the government and then they go to those sites. so there's a lot of people who are not accounted for indoors. 1.5000000 internally displaced people. so the numbers are way, way more than that. and if you use the 2 windows, are you all in your house? pardon? do you think, do you think the military will be in the military government will be better place to, to deal with problems like that than a democratic government? like in the short term, i do believe that the military government will try to do some sort of shaw the but of trying to demo that. they have the ability to make things change. of course,
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in the longer term we might fall back to we're slacking government. if we let them see tool, a shorter term, i believe dr. no matter what we see, they have a clear understanding that the civil society woman in book, in of us are not going to let them breed by an old system where it is in the military rule with so much in competency here. and there are no clear communication about what is happening and when asked about what is going on. the i say we have from the couple of government was or did, has to do with the security issue, the question in the country. and we don't have any faith explain this all our time of day was so short and, and, and we thank you so much for helping us to stay with us while we're waiting for lessons to connect to really appreciate it. and she can tell we're just starting the conversation, there's so much to talk about. i will get you both back on the next edition on another edition of the stream. but for now,
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