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mentions a grey of a european military interventions in molly france and germany considered withdrawing. troops after the country genta ordered danish soldiers to leave, to who will fill the security void. this is anti stuart. ah oliver, and welcome to the program. i'm the clock. a decade of european military interventions in molly is starting to unravel. last week, the military government, in pamlico, or the danish soldiers to leave immediately now it's expelled, the french ambassador to molly,

after what the agenda called hostile and outrageous comments by france is foreign minister john eve. latria said the military gin to that took part after 2 crews was illegitimate and out of control. and he criticized the presence of a russian private military contract is from the volcanic group. the giana ques, a mess, rays of exploiting molly's resources in exchange for protecting agenda is some of what he said. that won't be back our wills intact. it's not one event of your responsibility. i repeat my words due to the illegitimacy of the government that will hold our fight against terrorism. malia so isolated today that they only have one partner. he's got the mercenaries of the wagner group. that's all they can find . the only partner to day of molly as wagner. everyone else wants molly to return to democracy and fight against terrorism. well, driven in advance as it problems is holding talks with european african partners whether to stay in molly, germany's commitment is also down to

a newspaper interview. as foreign minister asked whether the conditions for a successful military mission are still in place for the army staying put for now. until unless he doesn't achieving our goals is only possible in a very limited way. welcome the united nation support for all nations which are active in molly, and the effort to call the mom, the interim government, to reinstall the original status. so that not work, we obviously need to reevaluate, but until then we will remain on standby. so in direct response to the question, there are no concrete troop withdrawal plans yet. or let's take a look at how we got here back in 2012 to our separatists took over large parts of northern money. either an eyesore linked fights is also in the region in january 2013 former colonial power france sent in trips to remove the groups. but after struggling for 9 years front announced it would end its operation early in 2022. recently deploy danish soldiers in mali have been asked to leave immediately. the

transitional government said their arrival was never approved. denmark says they were invited. sweden is also part of the french operation and announced its troops will leave in march in germany, members of parliament, of question, the presence of the soldiers in molly, and where they are part of the un peacekeeping mission, municipal the alright, let's introduce our panel in brussels, properties, port, yes, chief strategy officer at residents in global robots, new fella, boot who's executive director of the nordic center for conflict transformation, and acro mecca as a executive director of the west africa network for peace building. welcome to all of you. just took a mecca, i'd like to start with you this expulsion of the french ambassador. what do you make of it? well, it depends on who you are speaking to and how they want to contextualize. the

issues regarding the expulsion. some people in miami argued that freedom at last for the millions and millions of males. because these after the independence as it were from the french colonial math class. molly is, as you must have been independent, i thought with regard to the kind of influence whether the political fair or the economics that the french government continue to have. however, given the huge operations or france in model just seem to be in the shop them and even on the long term, some kind of security back to which is likely to be created. these schools, in my opinion, potentially create space for the terrorist and i'm groups to strengthen and extend the geographically cushions in not just the country, but even in other spaces. in this i have

a job. of course you're asking to look at is how trans we'll look at that and how that will potentially, as it were, have consequences on the job security coordination in the fight. i guess the suggest is and which goes are facts at the mark school in france. and that's not even going to talk about the, the economic impact. because at the point when my lease fits in, this kind of thing. so just ease which is more compounded, even with the, the, the, because it pandemic, they are also looking at how to use one of the major partners, which is a france that may even for that creates see loss is the ability, an economic hardship or within the country ok develop today, the timeline, the i just read out, which is quite interesting is quite telling is in 10 years the french have failed to eradicate the threat from insurgents. military have taken over. russian mercenaries move again in a situation where you can say it's not go any better. it's got worse. yeah,

definitely. it's a very interesting components that are happening in molly. one of them is now we looking at the french and german reassess and their presence in the country. what it means to me that 1st of all, that looking into the basis of death presence in the country. and the 2nd thing is also the way the reaction from the money government military shows that the military also looking for some legal basis to renegotiate the presence of european forces in independence. and even mention something in the statement that was in a national tv and not even there were speaking about how the rents and the statements from fred actually violates the development of friends, a relation between nations which within a national but also what is important is the reaction of france before that we're

trying to europe denies the military presence in, in modeling. and what is happening was, you know, 1st on the intention of decrease the pregnancy within the back can operation, but also push forward towards the tackle. but of course, which many european countries are in it, what now france is trying to do is they're going to need to, to, to talk and speak to other countries. because both the legal framework, both product and death ready and bridges of other european country in the country have the space we go. one is not only security was doing well, but also in terms of national vendor in money. we hadn't seen any new results from that. and also in terms of the political structure and also in terms of development, we actually monitor the frustration of people in molly already in

fulfilling the goal of their residence and agreement. military agreements with the government mileage is already legal, legal ground for renegotiate and that the, all right, let's, let's, let's examine the european mission a little bit more properties port here. so then most troops ordered out germany reconsidering its position. so to france, what do you make of the future of european intervention in the sol? well, not right. for the simple reason that falls like the united states used to be enough chemist on products is operating as the framework nation. in the value of peroration. therefore, if frauds where to withdraw and not just to reduce but to withdraw its forces, the other european contributors will not be able to sustain their presence there.

so i think this is where it comes to, not so much the military question, but the political one and just to get the records straight from whatever heard from the 2 previous speakers. we have meeting here with a government by michael, who is illegitimate, who has taken power by force who has not been elected and was actually a pottery with not a private security company. but a messenger r e. a group which has a track record of human rights abuse of actually tradition over a natural mineral resources. so we're going to come on to that with the problem. if you're talking about involving the rush, investors are going to come into the, to the, in just a 2nd. but just what happens, do you think if there is a wholesale pull out, i mean, we just heard that potentially there's going to be this security void which could be incredibly dangerous. just how bad could that be and what would happen when 1st,

it depends how you define security for it. because i think the one option that is being discussed was discussed before these political crises was a very lied to create a quick reaction. basically pure counter terrorism capacity to quickly from bases possibly even outside monday to strike terrorist groups a bit. what actually joe biden, what the 2 years are going to get this done? so i think you better, it all depends. and this is what the previous speaker was say on what the authorities in by michael would be willing to, to, to come with a to have that. and also whether perry's would be willing to, to work towards that kind of formula. so i think security vacuum is definitely the option everybody should and would want to avoid. so then we come to the question, it's a great mecca that should, should the french and should the european troops stay there?

well, i think again, it depends on the monday of, on the policies of the, the e. u. if you look at it on what is it just depends on the security situation on the ground and how dangerous that is going to be for the country for the, for the region and internationally. yes, that's what i'm coming to because if you consider it because it is an illegitimate god, which is the truth and that your policy does not allow you to continue to engage analyst medical needs, especially when i've been suspended by even be economic omni told west africa then you may be right, but if you also look at it on the implication on the wide eyed publication of the spread of the surgeons on the, not just on this i her region, but how that we lost would there be likely? and our secretary john, with a lot of implication for also the european states. then you may have a mid,

egregious mistake of it, an exit without plan. and which may even now for that can be kit and compound the entire security system that is already established. and which is also becoming a restraint factor or do the, the insurgence. so what that also means is that those countries that surround molly, especially the sun, had region. we begin to experience an increase on insurgence insurgencies, especially given the fact that book enough i so is already on that military region . guinea is already on the ambulatory gym. there is also a lot offer or, well, strict talks about the likelihood of even good work or to, or also been deserves, which on very soon. so nobody knows the ripple effect of the withdrawal this sudden withdrawal as it were just because of the action of the gender. okay, let's, let's bring in, let's bring a new fellow, come back in

a 2nd. let's bring in the fall on the said b for bridges mentioned afghanistan, and there is that scenario is now, you know, because you pour it as, as we've seen in afghanistan is poor as much as you like into the region. but you just keep accumulating trouble and then the extraction can be just as difficult if not worse. money is a little bit special case. yes. for every country that is a case, perhaps you can compare the bit monuv also with men mock with some some, some differences. but what i would like to see here, if you want to talk about, you know, we're talking about the complex in which minerals funding money becoming more and more important, more and more important to many other countries. and an example of that is the chinese australia branch announced in general report by which they, they mention that they would be exploiting. and they made a final investment decision in money to be when one of the longer lithium mine

perhaps in the world. and we know in the lease your car bond is actually the increase the last last year for 500 percent. and i think that there is some kind of deal behind the scenes. and i think that is why the general action be this fine. it was a work to stick around for, for a wife. and because the decision point in general was to extend direction until 5 years from the time one day they've been in power is living too much is completed in what's happening in the world. i think i don't see that there would be security in terms, but i think that the chinese friend that would be coming in as a replacement of some kind of would be done with the european yeah. and fabrics which brings us back to the point the original, but earlier about the rest semester it's been and that's, this is this concept of international involvement within molly. and we have these russian master is the wagner group and the european same course that this is incompatible with their mission. kelly,

i mean these group us as generated already enough negative new stories in libya, but also in the central african republic. and i think what they are clearly after is what the previous speaker was mentioning, securing key strategic resources predating all these resources. so they are not about protecting the money and population they might provide a close protection to the government players. but this is, i don't know how long they can sustain that because it's not clear whether the current illegitimate government can hold power. we've all really showing some sort of modicum of security to its own population. is it just about the getting it piece a slice of the mineral action if you like, but i suppose also the russians would potentially expect support for its positions

. is multilateral positions? yes, i think i think it's a w 12 on one hand. it provides, it could be commercial opportunities for, for russian companies. and at the same time, it's part of russia as defense diplomacy, which is use a, it's under claire of declared military presence. to, to accept it. it's right on the diplomatic theme. and now you see like in libya, now in valley, you have to count with russia. and if you want to settle or come to a solution, you will have to have some sort of side of the russia. so it's obviously the mean a pretty controversial and despicable but it's true that here pretty achieve its goal of going where the gap so as being present there and then getting a seat at the table. just a make one senior adviser to president macros said the problem centers,

as you've alluded to, you've all loses through the multi engine to breaking its commitment to hold elections in february and then this 5 year thing. and he said that, trying to make all this seem like a fight between molly and the old colonial power is a pretty crude trap that we won't fall into. what do you make of that? well, i think he's not known as the position of france. equis was very clear from the one that sir he said to call on democracy, govern us does not allow mileage to continue. so still in the the john to and they had a road map which they were supposed to respect. and they brought all kinds of issues and this has become now back in west africa as, as, as, as you will already begin to see it contestation of the global cost with it is the u. s. the prize. you get the china, the roger, exhausted and named them for strategic reasons. you know, so the presence of russia is increase in this context issue. you know,

so if you reflect on what also happen in, you know, as soon as the could detect her to please the court for russia, you know, to, to, to be their friends. so this house ripple effect on governance, stability, security in the region. and also given the potential consequences on, on an risk and, and possible, i mean of the reason i'm to destabilize the region so it will also, even we can do the economy community in terms of it, or if less and rule it within the division. and this has its own effects and leave for this a continue referral to the colonial past. it's clear that it's left a deep scar and but in a sense that the french are between a rock and a hard place because they're down to this day. and the damned if they, if they leave. yeah, i mean, the current taken out the power sentimental discourse that if you are now in fact

there are other power to present in. well, cool, and then you know, in general, but it is in newport news by the exploitation of the richness of the country, the work of the country for a very specific reason. i would like also to, to mention, you know, that we don't talk about it for last within the context in which your friends also has turned relations we did, we did country, which is actually a modern area. and some of the questions on the how the jury is increased in cooperating with, with russia and how that actually has an impact or influence within the deployment of the rest of the pages within, inside modern day credit intelligence that is about $450000.00 or some movies in the country, the, some of the official security officials in money. they mentioned that that decent

warner people are very efficient and they can clean out their own money in 6 months to pay them the sum of the questions. very, very important questions in, in, to what extent this idea of non interference in the countries affair is actually true. especially with the key neighboring country. why? julia, within the framework of the same condition of molly's tension with brand power and brand used it in the discourse of colonialism. and to what extent that actually facilitate the integration and the enabling of the rest of us to be present in february. so we just run a bit of time, but i do want to, to come up with the talk about the accountability of the current molly and government because the thing is you have friends street, you have american intelligence gathering. you have a 15000 you and for sydney,

marlene government, his belly in control beyond its major cities. how would they expect to do any better without outside assistance? you rhonda why that's the question. this is why it's important not to to get the wrong end of the problem. the problem is not so much fraud and it's a european international partners. but it's a government that does not have a plan forward. that clearly is just about leaving the day after tomorrow. with the protection of russian missionaries. and i think that this is really the, the, the sad kind of outcome of almost 10 years of presence by france and the softness but a bit. let me just make a point on that. this is the common drum, and this is the kind of have some kind of drum that the prompts can with the best tension. i think the taishan of the local authorities to prevent a complete collapse of the,

the value and state and government against chad. these groups that we've, you know, years of present and so on, even though the best intention also became the factor part of the problem. and even though it's not there as a colonial power, a few, the actors that much more the fact their group than anyone else. it is now increasingly perceived and presented as part of this problem. and this is exactly what we should get. this done where the international cooperation tend to for a specific problem and try to build a real african government and that the n with seen as much part of the problem as other issues in the countries. so this is the risk offering 7 shows and we have a cost now. where do you think there's any way out of this? you think that will be away from the european europeans to maintain the mission in molly, given all the problems that we've been analyzing, and assessing, or the russian mastery is at the illegitimate government, as you call it. clearly,

miley lacks the capacity to address the multi dimension our security challenge is, is in the contract, and the are for moving out of france or the, you on that. the sense that constance will not release solve the problem. i think rather, france will continue to engage me. they call us it should be a gradual process through cooperation and dialogue in order to tap into the opportunities that the french or b e. u provides plan and some level of resilience, of the contrast is the community in the country and, and the region. so i think that there should be honest conversation between you on one hand and then a course on behalf of the union on the other part. and even if missing bob in the us system to see how this can be a better handle even on that is a constant or ida gent,

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