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as series of short documentary ease from around the world that celebrate the human spirit, against the odds with al jazeera, select change makers. ah, i as i me okay on today's episode of the stream, could national dialogue bring piece to ethiopia. if you're watching right now in your, on youtube, the comment section is live, put your comments or thoughts, your solutions into the comments section. i will do my best include them into the show, but english are a little bit differently. we are focusing on strategies to get piece. ethiopia, earlier we spoke to tech clay deborah michael,
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and this is what he told us. number one, the people integration want been subject to 1 may starvation for the past 2 years and must be saved from total annihilation now or the mother of urgency. number 2, foreign forces hold on, still occupying parcels to grandma, believing number 3, there should be a mechanism that enables people to connect representative and participate in im, dental and all options including refund must be on the table. and number 4, there should be a total reckoning with the past, and as part of the reckoning, perpetrators must be heading to a convent, just as must be delivered. or that is take place checklist. let's see what our panel have to say about that in their own ideas. they're so used to unpacking problems in ethiopia. let's see if they can bring us some solutions for this particular show. see, delay. so nice to have you. hello. well, hello, adam. nice to have all of you in ash out a day see delay,
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please introduce yourself to our global audience. tell them who you are and what you do. thank you for me. my name is sadala. let my and i am the founder of the i, the standard online magazine. i am currently lift the new through and moved to be in to see you or the publisher of the i d standard magazine at to have hello. well, welcome back to the screen. please tell our audience who you are, what you day. thanks very much for me. and my name's i will, davidson. i'm the analyst for international crisis group. so the conflict litigation organization and i'm currently in the u. k. i can't get to have the hello a them, please hello to add guests and our audience. tell them who you are, what you do. hello for me. my name is adam bobo. i am program officer id, international institute for democracy, intellectual assistance, the national radio. all right, i'm going to start here on my laptop, which is picked out some of the areas where conflicts are still happening in
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ethiopia. we're talking about this path to peace. this, this little map is really important. have i missed anything out say, delay, and there any other areas where there's co e conflicts or tensions that we need to take into account before we have this conversation about how do we get peace? yes, you actually did. the me, the wind is of course, to gray and i are firing on para, particularly in our far where currently the war has shifted to. but it has a couple of other hot spots as well. and main. most importantly, eventually on the western part of the country, but also in weston or mia, you mentioned it or i mean in general, but the most difficult one is currently are happening in western part of them. yeah . which is also generally in the western part of europe and in the south and t $450.00. where if you get is bordering with the king and government, i'm sorry, was, was kenya in the south part 70. all right, so, so there's obviously
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a lot to dialogue about adam. i'm really intrigued about this national dialogue from your perspective, who's involved, all of those areas where there's conflict boiling right now. i all involved in this national dialogue. i'm one city national data process has started, the dallow itself hasn't. and so the, the plan is to set up a commission that is expected to be independent. and that commission will then decide who are critical stockholders in the process to bring peace in the country. a 1st obviously to, to silence the guns to make sure that people that need help, that need basic necessities are provided with it. and then look at the fundamental issues that divide all political actors, but also society at large. i say it's a process that has started, the preparations have started, but the actual dialogue hasn't. but ultimately, if it's to succeed,
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it would have to include people are, that's hard that are fighting the government and, and, and that have complained in terms of the, the nature of the state and how it's covered. well, i'm just looking at 2 different r pads from out as an adult, calm about the same national dialogue, ethiopians new national dialogue time unify, the decided nation. if he had his new national dialogue cannot deliver inclusive, please will your thoughts? yes, so i read those off a notice how starkly contrasting they were. i think 2 basic things to understand about national title. the 1st is that you're constantly these processes are for. busy sort of chronically divided societies where you have sort of fundamental political disagreements and people need to find a way to share power. anything here is a perfect example of this. 3 is different sort of political community, ethnic groups or nations, as they call themselves. they have very different versions of history,
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the imperial era. they are very different understandings of contemporary history under this multinational or ethnic federal system. and they have very different ideas about where we go forward, should we try and have a more unit tray or unify states, or should we have more power to the regions and ethnic groups. and that's why you're getting very contrasting viewpoints. so absolutely national dialogue is necessary and i think we all agree on that. the concern at the moment is that another sort of pattern and easier in history has been a process of exclusion. so the people who hold power, they sort of almost monopolize power and they don't let the other group so political parties or whoever and go outside power, they don't really let them have a say. and then that leads to essentially some sort of violence backlash. and i think that's the sort of phase that we're in at the moment. and there was very worrying signs that the process that adam was talking about is set to exclude. busy
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and very key axes, most of all the armed groups and they are fighting for political reasons essentially, and then also potentially some other mainstream play black. so a national dialogue is needed, but the way things are unfolding at the moment there. busy is a concern that it's really going to be kind of alternately, woefully insufficient to address that ready, serious political problems the country has. i guess let me throw some sports at you immediately. so i think that you go 1st and then i'm going to bring in was, was what we said here, but i would like to, you know, put it a, no, it's not just a one, sorry. what is happening now was the process of formation of the national debt and august, starting from their own foot assisted the war, broke out. actually, even before the war broke out, the international community was asking the government for this inclusive dialogue. and there are some careful sequential that that needs to be, that need to be, to be followed, particularly after we went into the war. you have to tell us that got his 1st and
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it's not very clear that if. ringback this national dialogue commission that is appointed by the government, a party to the conflict itself, can be able to enforce sufficient facilities to begin with. so it's not for me a commission that is going to kick start the process in the right direction and he's having facilities and making sure that the process of formation of the commission itself involved with the people that know topped and the large ones who don't even know about the formation of this question. so this is not a concern. this isn't debt. and from the very beginning if i could just jump in, i think, i think you can tell that, you know, that alex viewpoint. but i mean, the national dialogue is i was trying to stay and i think that i would agree with it is something necessary. so yes we, we don't want to get off on the wrong foot here. but my understanding is, i think this has a sort of initial, a potentially 3 year horizon to it. so yes,
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we're getting off on the wrong foot. but if, for example, we did have progress towards sensation of hostilities and therefore we got to a position where we could have a genuinely inclusive national dollar process. i like to think that whatever exists can be adapted to make it more. busy inclusive or more meaningful in amongst and years to come possibly may or may i jump in here is one for me thou had at any time. and so it's a 2 things i think i said alleys right, that we have to recognize there are 2 powered process that are necessary at 1st. one is piece process that indeed has was highlight the guns a mix. would that there are p conditions that, that have people to be able to speak freely to be able to outline what, what their thoughts are, what their interests are, what their ideas are. so that it, that is that piece process. i'm the national data commission is not supposed to do that. it is supposed to deal with issues that underlie some of the, the,
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the conflicts as we seen it to appear. but that also precede the conflict. we see we see today. and so we have to, you know, there must be a process to bring peace at peace process. but nash is necessary and deep. there are concerns that a, it has to be independent that it has to deliver. and the same time what we know so far from the legislation that this commission is supposed to be independent. and of course, it's important that actors, all actors should have a voice, at least in terms of nominating members. but i think we should be, we should be more open to the possibility that it can actually deliver. i, it's not surprisingly had so much i hate at discipline and just just hold on to it for my me because we have so many comments coming in from youtube. i went into engaging that one is as well, but very quickly, i put for it to you. will you come back to me very quickly. so as in albany says that he managed should come 1st over politic to save lives. is that really stick?
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we'll go ahead i think that's the problem is that we have and there is absolutely master monetary needs across the field, especially inside pick, right? but i mean, as much as we would like to happen and so far during the conflict, we've seen massive restrictions on humanitarian aid. and ultimately, i think if we realistic, until we see some improvement in the politics, some improvements in the security situation, we can end up having a really critical monetary situation. so it should happen. but i'm not sure what's going to dallas. i would like you to take a movie comment, newly say, natural dialogue is only a viable option than when all the parties have the same version of the conflict. at this time, there is no common ground where the parties can sit at a table. your thoughts. i completely agree with that, and my disagreement was a formation of the national dialogue itself. is that if the national coalition is supposed to, i'm half the parties who are this contrasting view,
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softly keeping politics. who have then finally gone into picking guts, ah, or do not even agree with the commissioners of the national commission. that means we do no tough independent in terms of caters to bring the, the warning functions altogether, who can be trusted by all? so the question is that shouldn't this parties be part of new nominating intern locators independent intern locators that they all agree with that they all trust so that they can, you know, start discussing. so that's what i'm saying. the commission itself is afloat and it's process. but also, or who are going to be elected to that? so we don't know, for example, who's representing the to grand people, the national down a commission has been formed by the, by the national parliament today. i national parliament me for 38 seats in its, in its 38th, representing 7000000 to grant who are not having any se,
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owned identities on the people of this commission. so why would the to grand people, for example, trust these commissioners to stop dialoguing with a government that they are at war was i didn't, i say your commission is a flat, old one. i think so we have to recognize the concern, i think said alleys. right. but the comment, so i apologize. i forgot the name on the the idea, the suggestion that we have to wait until there is agreement on some of these things are actually undermines a very idea of doubt, of dialogue. you intend to down because you need to agree with certain things on some of these fundamental issues. so it's the outcome of, of dialogue, not up a condition to it. no us down to say it is, is accurate and, but we should not consider is that the way the commission is designed is supposed to be independence. it's not supposed to represent any political groups and you are right about the absence of to graham's in parliament. but at the same time,
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if we have to wait until there's some kind of peace, we may have to wait really, really long. that's one i. secondly will, can, i just was, i didn't open on that. i don't, but his and him either just finish half a minute and i'll let you sorry, half a minute as a warning chunk of the so adam maria a heads it said 2nd point. the 2nd point that this commission, ah, is been nominated by anybody. and i imagine people who have ideas similar to the t p a live foresters and similar with other actors also had the chance to make propositions. and so basically, just to summarize, this commission is not supposed to be present any political group. and anybody including people who have the same ideas or the g p a left are the actors have been able or at least they would, the process was open for them as we're i don't think, i don't think i'd of you are into it. it was that the demand from the international demand is a heavy, weren't the recommendation from the international community that had carefully
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sequence it. the process that need to be taken 1st says that the onset of this war is that the 1st disposition of hostilities. the 2nd is humanitarian access and some countries quote for the release of political prisoners as well. and it withdrawing a foreign forces to pave the way for the national dan, look, these are care for sequences that need to be taken into account if we really want to have an inclusive and independent dialogue. so with, so for silencing against and having everybody a chance to participate in the dialogue, you can not just, it would be just the heat and rent process that's due to fear from the very beginning that i disagree with the process. i let me create in space them increase in space for you will if i may, can i go to you by and net. net gash, because again, we was working at what are the strategies, what are the, what are the steps to get to piece, not just on packing or of the issues at his m. net will please jump off the back of
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her and him take a conversation foot for just due to happening at european unordinary citizen would expect an immediate, an urgent need to aim the duct. an indicted killings and lifting the blockade. and people who have been detained based on that ethnic background needs to be released . this are only positive steps towards our children, sufficient for status, lusting peace in new york days. however, only i to reuben here for still looters are to be closed with our journey and pistol, which would include accountability and compensation of the damage that has been imposed. and pupils are spanish and including on a spanish and on independence. it needs to be accommodated well, we'll, we'll was so impressed by that he phrase will pick up. go ahead, go ahead. what i want to say i want to understand from, from, out to me was talking about 2 tracks. but what is the points in starting the national dialogue,
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which will agree should be inclusive. and so we thought those sensation of hostilities until the guns are silent. it seems to me that i shouldn't be the 1st focus. busy and then we move to the dialogue and in terms of and that point, i mean, i think these are all absolutely valid. i think some of these issues of accountability can, can come as part of a longer process. i think there's an absolute urgency to the military situation inside to grow and outside. and i think the 1st thing really, the federal government needs to do is not just focus on this national dollar focus on alleviating the sort of time in conditions inside pick, re restoring services that absolutely, you know, betray detentions on an arrest, have to stop. but this is a part of this board, a package of a trying to come to terms on a station, a post, and it is and create the conditions for a political process. and i have a lot of sympathy for news that these things happen. first, i want to bring in telegraph to say, who is the chairman of the m r a association of america. again,
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we asked everybody who contributed via video. what are the steps to get to last thing piece adam? have a listen to this and then bounce off the back. i will like, or of our panel. one of the steps to lasting piece. we see the challenges. what are the steps this war, the targeted massacres and ethnic cleansing of a mass has its roots in this ethnic apartheid system. and all inclusive national dialogue that is transparent, inclusive of independent civic organizations fair representation of political parties and ideologies. transitional justice, not just as the altitude of this war bed over the last 3 years has the potential to bring about nesting, piece to ethiopia. however, this would necessitate and willing party to open the process. oh, no. so obviously you as talking particularly from the perspective of am horace are
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but i wanna, i wanna emphasize 2 point one is that one of the you, some of the issues though we're discussing issues of justice. i. so for instance, line dispute between am her and to grey and other areas are some of the fundamental ideas as would have to be discussed in a dialogue. and so if we hope or if we think that there has to be peace out, basically, if this issues would have to be a resort before we get to a before, before we go to national battle, you, we are essentially preempting some of the fundamental issues though when we need to cover so each of justice issues of land issues of, of the, the did a recognition for instance, of some of these political groups are the issues that would have to be determined in, in the national data sets. he cannot think in the near term seats, if they're there, they are intersect. some of the issues that are necessary for peace would have to be resolved. so national lead of so we cannot, in linear terms. and how can she own as you know, why the national bank limits and if that went out with well, well, will you,
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you've been fast. i mean, how can we insure the necessary participation of these actors in the dialogue when the conflict is ongoing. when these territorial disputes are, as are still outstanding, i think the, the key thing is participation in inclusive within an adult understand and how that works in the way, adams america, some things to do so. so the daft certain, so there has to be a recognition of these actors that's very important. indeed they have to be included. but the issue, some of the core issues behind is conflicts require the doubt of to be resolved. so they have to indeed they have to be recognized, brought into the fall of the national down process and, and hopefully also that the guns would have to be silenced. but we cannot assume that so the fundamental issues, including territory injustice. these are issues that the dialogue process would have to solve off to talk about what kind of justice, what kind of a resolution does do, do the territorial disputes require?
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so we, you know, this isn't, this is not an in cure. you may be, you're right. we have to set quite a bit in reality, it's a complex process that the 2 things would have to go together. i wasn't bringing one more point. if i asked her if i may sit down and i mean if you could just give me was sure sure. i was going to come to you and it was going to come to you. let's go ahead, go ahead. all right, this is, this is exactly why we need a very proper sequencing events to happen there. starting from the immediate cessation of hostilities, followed by this a ceasefire agreement between warring factions and the government. all of them not only to grand forces, but they are a motivation front and, and in many shampoo, their armored group stick. all of them has too, you know, they have to come into an enforcement of decision of, of facilities, followed by, of, at that an agreement for a cease fire agreement. and that, that would then paved the way for the government and for the international community to reach to the affected mealies of people are, are threatened by the,
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from me and or so the war. now you can not really dialogue when people are dying of either bullets or hunger. right? and then you can sequence that one by that good gesture of releasing political prisoners and removing terrorist tags out of the t p. i live in oil live. so it can pipe me of the way for them to come into the discussion. and of course you also have to remove foreign forces from ethiopia. today, if you talk to any of us who groups, they're more scared of the presence of editor and forces in ethiopia than any other group. so they can not have the politically free and independent space to come and discuss it as future free way. and that would then give their wait for their formation of this inclusive dialogue to happen, where every topic under the sky should be discussed. let no, nothing, no you, i actually, you would actually agree on the fundamental that there has to be negotiated pieces
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to the guns would have to be silenced at the army down groups would have to be recognized and brought to the fort. and of course, you monetary those things, i shouldn't even be pre conditions. but beyond those preliminary decisions, silencing the guns and recognizing the actors everything else, every centrally touched on the fundamental issues that the dialogue is supposed to address. so on the basics we agree, but beyond the issues including perhaps even the, the, the question of arterial it's extremely intermingled with some of the fundamental issues around territory and or, and so it's very, very complicated. and if you put a condition dialogue on those things be being at your part of it, where social prem caught what that should be. i'm going to pause here. we've had an accent dialogue on the show. the show is one more thought that i want to bring into this conversation and that thought came from sina. who was really thinking about political prisoners as well. you're going to put this in and i'm not my. so what i'm paying again we need to cease the bias
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assisting machine 8 least political prisoners there, thousands of their excel for. i'm a new regional of forces where they said shout ready to from to, from 5 to 3. you know, within your dental and down the satellite is to have really achieve a national dollar bring the piece that we need 1st and foremost, the national guard. right? no one is unlikely to me because the last a, the process is not transparent. it is not all inclusive piece stakeholders on the same. so i'm just looking here, my laptop. this is the question that we studied, i show with cad abbey ahmed's national dialogue and ethiopian war. thank you to sir darla for will for adam and for your thoughts and conversation on line as well. i think the answer delay is possibly maybe more work needs to be done talking about
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