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the leader of i sal is killed in a u. s. operation in syria. president joe biden called it a major blow to global terrorism. but how much of a threat does iso pose now, this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much of jerome the us says it has eliminated one of the biggest terrorist threats to the world. the leader of ice will blew himself up as us special forces surrounded his compound in it. live province in syria. not much is known about a boy, but are he mahash me?

look what a she, but he's believe to have directed a 10 day prison siege in ne syria. last month. that was one of the biggest ice will attack, since the group was declared defeated in 2019. our white house correspondent kimberly hallett has more. this horrible terrorist leader is no more in an address to the nation from the roosevelt room of the white house. u. s. president joe biden spoke about the operation. he ordered that killed the ice. a leader abu ibrahim al, has she, me, al, karachi, and i directed the department of defense to take every precaution possible to minimize civilian casualties. knowing that this terraces chose us rom, sofas, families, including children, we made a choice to pursue a special forces raid at a much greater risk than our to our own people, rather than targeting him with an air strike. as us special forces moved in the ice,

a leader reportedly detonated an explosive and a final act of desperate cowardice. he chose to blow himself up, taking several members of his family with him. the mission happened thursday in north western syria in it live province. residence on the ground said at least 13 people, including children, were killed in the operation. the pentagon said there were no true casualties. with the credit or more might in his vice president and national security advisors over saw the mission from the situation room of the white house. it was the biggest us rated, syria says the 2019 operation that killed the ice. a leader abu bakar albert daddy . this operation was literally months in the planning the u. s. targeted the ice, a leader for threats he allegedly posed to us interests and crimes committed in iraq in 2014, including the enslavement of his edi women. the raid comes

a week after the defense secretary ordered the u. s. military to do more to protect civilians in combat operations often largely forgotten in the west postilion. maybe the only it sort of a lining of this is it has brought back media's attention to the conflict and syria seems from their perspective that no one really cares. so a one advantage in a sense is that this is now go to your back into, into the news. despite efforts to limit casualties. some members of congress are now calling for an investigation into the civilian deaths to ensure that every reasonable step was taken to protect innocent lives. kimberly helped at al jazeera, the white house. ah. all right, listening and our guests from washington, d. c, y l a z at ceo of m gauge foundation. he was

a senior policy advisor on syria for the former us ambassador to the un, samantha power, and a syria outreach coordinator for the u. s. department of state from doha. my one couple on head of policy analysis at the arab center for research and policy studies. and from pittsburgh, collin clark, senior research fellow at the so font center and author of after the caliphate, the islam estate and the future terrorist diaspora. a warm welcome to you all and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story call. and let me start with you today. you wrote a piece for the los angeles time to which you said, although another islamic state leader has been killed, the organisation will endure in iraq and syria as long as the u. s. and his allies continued to substitute targeted killings for a more comprehensive counter terrorism strategy. what would that strategy look like? oh, it's the same old talking points and issues that we hear all the time. it's investing in things like good governance and anti corruption. the so called soft side of

counter terrorism instead of strictly focusing on kinetic operations and, and taking out the head of these groups. it's a generational struggle. but when you go to capitol hill and you say, you know, my strategy cost, a lot of money is going to take a really long time and there's no guarantee of success. you're shown the door pretty quickly, you know. and so that's why there's or over reliance my opinion on i value targeted . my one, let me ask you how much of a setback is quite a, she's death for iso and is i saw the sort of threat now that it was just a few years ago when it's in the district back. but as a guest from the salon group has just mentioned, i said has always been able to replace when, when be with one veto for another. and this can go, gone for, for ever. unless you adopt some sort of a comprehensive approach to solving the problem of ice and the u. s. has somehow to

get in both nation victim. you can't just bought a like this because just 2 years ago i said has lost it. so i stick lita, i will buckle about that the and yes that date last another letter and i believe i said would be able to have this him bitchy soon as this is something that i believe and the spare. as i said, i mean more involvement by the united states, the nation building at that would entail. and not only am i but governance, indeed it says it's important, but also to deal with the grievances of the people in this spot. the what was there not is this has contributed in some way or another. don't forget after or that i said was that is an invasion of iraq and that is much of the iraqi state. so we have a vacuum life now in somehow in the region and in iraq and, and many other, this is number that is and would, it were about, there is a vacuum. i said would be able to list for some other form of you how the groups

would be able to add door to fill that vacuum. so i think we need to have a comprehensive study. it didn't the rather than keep actually going after a lead, those of i still one after another. well, you know, you as president joe biden took a lot of criticism for the u. s. his withdrawal from afghanistan and many said that the way that that was handled was a sign that the u. s. as far as it was perceived globally, that it was really weakening. so i guess his administration would really see this as a way to send a message that the u. s. is still strong and reliable. when it comes to counterterrorism, do you think that's correct. thank you for having me and to some degree that is correct. it is a signal to not only to terrorist organizations, bottles of the international community, but that can only go so far. and i do agree with the gentleman before me. really, you know, i joined, engaged 5 years ago because we want to educate voters about the importance of human

rights at home here in the united states and abroad. so what does that mean? it means that in places like syria were, you have the origin of a lot and the family of assad ruling, one country for 40 years have given and have invested really in the root causes of a situation that led to the production of a terrorist organizations such as isis, and as long as those food causes for governance, gross human rights violations, and rampant corruption are really not addressed. and by the way, this is not only for the united states to fix. in fact, it mainly it is not. it is for the syrian people and the regional countries to really tackle it. but the united states does happen to be a superpower. it is in syria today. and i think it has an opportunity to invest in true support for people who are outside of government control as well as put the pressures with its allies on the regime to either reform or really step aside

because we're going to keep repeating the cycle. and we're going to be dealing and talking about ice as to why know, $3.04 and the people on the ground will pay the heaviest price calling, you know, a few minutes ago, matawan said that he believed that there could be a replacement for what a she is, leader of i saw relatively soon. do you agree with that assessment? and also how might could a she's death affect isolate global operations. and well, we don't know how long it will take and you know, the judging behind the scenes that's likely taking place right now. which is really interesting to, to think about and talk about. i mean, i've already been talking to other terrorism scholars this morning about the whole process and what's likely to happen next in terms of global impact. that's another largely unknown because it's still hard to verify exactly how much alco ratio was communicating on a regular basis. what the ice is command and control structure looked like with the

regional branches, affiliates, and franchise groups worldwide. suffice to say, we know from history when the core or central group is unable to communicate with the branches for long periods of time, those, those branches tend to focus on local issues, not global issues. that was one of the big issues with l cut in iraq. you'll remember with, with r kelly, but we're getting military. so there's a lot to keep an eye on in the next 3 to 6 months. there could be some real change that had for the islamic state. my one from your vantage point, are there particular regional branches of ice all or affiliates that would be more impacted by the death of creation? yes, brody, syria and iraq. and don't forget that. i said household was being keen on having it on and he ought to your, for, from, from iraq. and mainly it's, i think there might be, have spoken him back, but look, i, so in terms of

a 33 has been really defeated. so we are not looking here into something like a very strict hierarchical organization right now. it's rather loose when and when we can see actually branches of ice almost. and as, as they were safe in 50 southern countries now. and it is very difficult to think of it as being controlled by one at top leadership located. so we're actually, we're acting from either out of c, d, i and the r e c. i see the branches now in 90 chad in nature and, and many other african countries, asian countries as well. i think this is a news network right now, and they are mainly local fighters and they are affiliating themselves somehow with ice because ice, it has a separate reputation and so on. and this is why i'm a little bit of a careful here about the impact of,

of the elimination of the isolated eat or on the up on the other branches in different countries. while in january, there was this attempt, a rather brazen attempt by i sold to break thousands of followers out of prison and hossa. in ne syria. this was a coordinated attack that lasted as far as i know for days. how much concerned did that cause for the u. s. the fact that ice will was able to do this, you know, and it was just a couple of years ago that, that, that i saw was declared defeated. well, you know, there was a concern. oh, as far as back when, when i was working on the portfolio in the u. s. government in 2017, as i says on its way to being fully defeated, we warn and even outside of government that the ideology as well as the die hard. and you know, supporters of these ideology, we're still in that just in the border region between iraq and syria in northern

syria. and also remember the grievances that the leveraged to enlist support from the local population. this is a really important point that you saw in am our province. during the 1st, the insurgency in iraq, you are able to leverage, you know, in some ways, look legitimate grievances, whether it's aside the regime, russia, or even the united states and their support for their s d, f and the excesses of the student democratic forces in places like hasn't been so um it raised a lot of concerns. the group is not fully eliminated. it retains the ability to conduct these kind of stripes. and also one thing to mention, there are thousands of former isis fighters and or their families, including minors. children who are now still in detention after 3 years across detention facilities in the north east, under the guard of u. s. back forces, the s d f. and you know, one of the horrible situations of this research prison break is hundreds of boys

apparently were in that jail. and we believe many have been killed. and so that itself feeds into a new narrative of grievances on the part not only of isis die hards by local populations, and that that could feed new recruits into the future. so i think it's really a concern and a requires a holistic approach to the immediate security situation, but as well as the underlying problems. it collin, this strategy that we see enacted by the u. s. these decapitation strikes where, you know, whether it's an air raid or, or a ground operation in which the leader of ice or, or other groups are taken out. and then they're able to, you know, reconstitute me how much impact really do they have on a group like ice will. i mean, does this just become a cycle whereby, you know, the leader is killed or, or dies and then somebody else takes their place and then the whole cycle starts over again or less. i mean, that's what we've been doing. i mean,

you can use whatever cliche you want a wakeham, all or as the israelis call it mowing the lawn a bit crude when you think about what, what, what we're doing but an accurate nonetheless. and i think, you know, that the only thing i'd say is that not all leaders are created equal. and so you will have leaders that are more charismatic or better at recruiting and propaganda than others. some that are, you know, better strategist, but absolutely the machinery of these organizations, the logistics logistics networks, the financing, the propaganda, all of these things have been built over time. and they're extremely difficult if not impossible, to dismantle. particularly if you're just talking about removing leaders. you also have the issue of intel gain loss, which is the devil you know, versus the belly. you don't, the more you remove leaders, you know, the less intelligence you have on who's coming up the pipe next. and those leaders

that ultimately come up the, you know, the leadership pipeline may actually be more radical than those that they supplanted. so that's a concern to my one. i just want to try to take a step back for a moment and look at the bigger picture here, especially in the region. i mean, one of the things that this a raid has done is it has refocused attention on syria. and so i just want to ask you, what is the overall situation there right now? what i think am there is some kind of a good luck and city right now, because as you know, of course, i'm in the major i and, but it has actually ceased. well, and we don't have, we don't have major confrontations like not in celia, but we don't have a bit of process as well. so now full of lions are more or less and fixed over the past 2 years. should he says that negative meant that the switch element between president of the ban of the again, been booked and off of a shot, especially in it live witnesses for that either i said was eliminated

a couple of days ago so that the situation like now is that a country is, in fact am i, you can describe the host picture as is, is getting dismantled by the hour. why? because we have a very difficult osh economic conditions and we have similar on these is to plug places and we have that the situation of the people actually are under, under the gym or under opposition, is literally waiting. by the day. you can actually see how people are affected by the harsh winter these days without having actually enough of a pool supplies and other basic needs. so i think the situation is the, is really dire. and this is where i think, what are they like? is it important? they like to stay right now. this is what not me talking. i was there are 4 to 4

and for some time now, now this is mainly considered right now about actually supplying go system. you may 1000000000 eat the c, m people aggravating. i saw at the buddy no vision, i believe in getting with the city and conflict is actually putting cost in this precious shameka at because they have one to and if he is the responsibility somehow or, or to think of the, the burden from his child does my saying when i was actually handling the cbs by providing them with the name, on the other hand we are, we are actually after i said, i'm not planning to weaken it. but other than that done, because i'm not doing what they need to do, which is the political process, that is the issue here. that is the thing that we need to look at. because as long as this conflict gone both on and as long as the situation is due to the waiting of the people, we will have more be we're actually joining i. so there will be that, that, that equipment i said would be it would be easier because the great guess is we

have been talking about the very difficult conditions. because look, i said matter one rely on but i'm not gonna do it one, i'm sorry, i'm and one, i'm sorry to interrupt you. we're, we're just starting to run out of time. well i, i want to ask you about, well, from your purse there in washington. d. c. i mean, do you see this playing out advantageous, lee for president biden? you know, former president obama. he ordered the re, the killed us, our been lawton, a former president trump ordered the rate in which i will. butler by the daddy died . does this help biden? does it help him domestically in the u. s. and does it help the way he's perceived internationally? well, it's not going to hurt him, and it will likely help him in the short term. but right now the american population in general may most don't know who for a, she is really, and they are focused on the inflation situation in the united states, the high prices for consumer good. and so as we get closer to the midterm elections,

i think this operation will receive into the memory of the american population. and i don't think there will be a big impact for him to let orally. however, i think from a prestige from, you know, within the foreign policy circles, people who track these are, you know, these issues. yes. but again, even within those circles, with a here in a broad people always be asking the question, what is the united states doing strategically to alleviate the situation in syria, to stabilize the situation and syria and to hell. and by the way, again, not only the united states to do but with its allies and the region to address the root cause of this conflict. and i would say that even though there is now a defacto. so i stable situation in syria, there is a deadlock, as it was just mentioned, the are some factors, any changes right now. we'll see what happens with the ukraine and russia situation . second, the negotiations with iran over its iranian over its nuclear deal. 3rd,

the deteriorating economic situation in syria and in iraq, which can have part of the machine's efforts to hold on to areas that controls already. and for the midterm elections, obviously, what happens, you are literally really united states because clearly we're not staying there forever. so just a matter of time and what is going to drive the administration to make that decision a call. and i saw you nodding along to some of what, what it was saying there. did you want to jump in? i just think we don't have a serious strategy and, and we'll biden, you know, get a boost from, from, you know, this to capitation strike yet temporarily, but he's got to do it again and again and again. and if he actually wants to make any progress, it's got to be connected to some broader strategy, which we just lack. we're, we're pretty rudderless in terms of foreign policy. and we have little little leverage in syria and afghanistan. so, you know, look at the major players in syria, iran, russia,

united states is one of several parties. and it's clear that you know, the turks are and others that you know, there's no clear and coherent game plan or blueprint for how to operate in the middle east. the u. s. is desperate to get out of the middle east and quote unquote, pivot to asia, but keeps getting dragged back in. and again, without a kind of broader grand strategy or even a regional strategy, we're going to end up in the same situation. matawan, we only have a couple of minutes left. let me just ask you, you know, i saw previous leader ever buckner about that he, he was much more well known than i will put a she, i, he was considered more care. charismatic. he was ed, you know, he, analysts say he was able to recruit more people and inspire more people. the fact that it was quite a she was less visible that he had a lower profile that, that make it more difficult for ice will to spread his propaganda and inspire recruits. i'm not sure about dr.

a actually mention as long as we have the conditions that is, hadn't been, i said it, we're going to have actually more more people joining i said, unless you, with the conditions that up and using the sort of a condition that we are, we are dealing with right now is a both countries actually, there are so many dvds is located against is and in, back to people actually to join join us. and of course, i mean that was much more i think because as you know that he's in for that he and he defeated a just, this is why he was more like everyone should at least a leadership wise. it's more about the conditions that are producing time and again. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the discussion there. thanks so much. all of our

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