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latest edition of inside story. news, news, news, news, news to the, as president moved to dissolve the top traditional watchdog guy aside. assume the executive power last year. and now she was a body of consumption. but as this slide backwards in the only democracy to emerge from the spring, this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth brought him in doha to as he is
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president, has declared times up for the body responsible for appointing judges and keeping an eye on them. chi side says the supreme judicial counsel is biased, broken, and a thing of the path specifically 5 accuses that of delaying politically sensitive investigations into the killings of left to an activists in 2013 demonstrations were held on sunday, commemorating their deaths. i was, we will work to put an end to this miserable situation and we will work to put in place a temporary law decree for the supreme judicial council. this council should consider itself from the past, starting this moment, the democratic transition into his ears since the 2011 revolution has been to mount us and matters came to a head last year. in july, president side sack the prime minister and froze parliament. his appointments accused him of staging a clue, but sigh of his argued he acted legally to rescue the country during protest
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against him and also rally support. 5 announced and september that he'd will by decree, this allowed him to appoint cabinet members such policy and put aside parts of the constitution. last month he initiated an online consultation to draft a new constitution. but he hasn't involved any major political or civil society groups in the process. the one that's bringing i guess in tunis is cyber niecy, a member of the disbanded tennessee in parliament and syracuse mohammed via her mommy's political scientist and research at syracuse university's maxwell school. and father visa is editor in chief of mescal. that is a to museum news and analysis website. very well. welcome to all of you and mr. niecy, i'll start with you in tunis will mention some of the moves that president side has taken over the past 6 months. the tune is he and parliament that you were
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a part or has been disbanded. is the birthplace of the arab spring on its way to becoming an autocracy? yes, exactly. so today, mark actually are, you know, the beginning of the 7th months after the freezing of the parliament by the president of hi site. who is, you know, continuing on is that pathway to installing a wheel dictatorship in india and to dismantle that in they, it were that the islands this morning, or, or let say very late or yesterday evening, or in the hash, you, of the ministry of interior of the dissolution of the higher, at court of justice or the higher consul off at judges, which is another's 10 to word, our personal power, confiscation of power, and the destruction of every single boys who would be against eyesight. let's put
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that the latest move to mr. alley. reza, who's also in tunas as president side at what do you make of what he's done? is he right and has criticism because his criticism is very strong of the supreme judicial counsel them. and he says that the members have been taking what he calls billions and bribes and have been delaying important cases on corruption on terrorism. well, there's certainly legitimate criticisms of the judiciary. i think that can be made . we certainly have seen cases where even there was a judge that was stopped by police and had 1000000 over a $1000000.00 in the car. so certainly cases like this have a fed into what a widely perceived understanding that the judiciary has had issues. there's been attempts to have an independent judiciary, particularly setting up of the higher digital counsel in 2016. but ever since the 2011 revolution has been attempts to try and build an independent judiciary. what the president is saying and accusing what he seems to be building his project on,
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is saying that the judiciary has not been doing his job, but it is party to partisan interest. at the same time, we do seem but actually giving more executive control over the judiciary. i live as a result of that, we're seeing actually judges pushing back. certainly the higher digital council itself has been in the crosshairs up the president since september. so it's been several months that we've seen increasing pressure by the executive branch on the judiciary and certainly judges and judges union have also. busy been very a part of this and pushing back saying that while there are a legitimate criticism perhaps on the lunacy of cases that they would not like to see the executive and the presidents, the itself have greater control over the judiciary itself. mr. her mommy, how do you address something like a judiciary that isn't moving fast enough on some of the most, you know, important cases, judges finding, you know, being found with, with a lot of money. i mean, what finds it inside has done, is it warranted or is it an over ration?
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that's partials, the sort of wider moves that he's been making for the past 6 months. well, those are the rest of the way. gosh. and her car was arrested and she is being prosecuted. you don't need to solve that entire situation to hold a few. but apples accountable. the problem with 5 is that not distinguish between misbehavior of individuals. judges that happen in every single institution, including the mancy frontier, upon which he relied to, to oppress his opponents. but the problem with him is that he's attacking the actual institution that was built after the revolution that doug does . i've been fighting for for, for 2 years. even they were talking well calling for the, for the implementation of the creation of assessing that you see. so the main problem with the side is that instead of trying to solve the institution problem to
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simply be solving is solving these institutions and attacking his opponents. in fact, when we say that the, that the, that people do not trust the system is actually not true. we have multiple surveys. the most recent one was one in november by the center for my type. it's american institution, national eyes with it's an engine company and it's all that 60 percent of singers do trust the court system setting the problem is with, with, with issue apple. but appleton site is using that pretext to attack the entire institution and has that miss niecy, i'll bring you in here now has that of he's attacking institutions rather than what mr. mommy described as a few bad apples within the institutions. is that costing him support because,
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you know, he was elected with wide support from across the political parties. your party itself and other supported him and the what he did, you know, when he does all parliament, i mean that was also have some very popular support. is he now losing that support? i'm. he is because he basically eliminated everyone around him. what is dangerous, what i side is that he's very obscure projects. we don't really know about it because you never took the time to explain it to people. he refused dialogue. he refused pluralism, here with diversity, refuse confrontation of opinion. so in that way he's really not, you know, someone isn't fond of democracy, but he's more and more elated. i think that this will hide
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in, in the last summer in the middle of the holidays and moments of the pandemic. and the way he also, by the way, use this a demick for himself yesterday to justify the authorization of demonstrations in his favor today. he basically said that be a contact me at the content mc. sorry. and yeah, sanitary situation evolved in the good way. so people could actually take on the streets at the trade in his favor. what we are saying, as in this morning, is that there is only probably 2 or 3 dozens of people who actually went outside and took the street to support in favor of his decisions of yesterday evening. in the same time, he is a person who at 2 occasions gave strict
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orders to basically or full bidden. there was twitch absolutely. we thought we thought they results, we saw deadly results. i believe on january 14th and an anti site protest was actually killed. many people were arrested and that's because there was a ban on demonstrations. and yet on sunday the people are being allowed to demonstrate in support, or rather in support of what he's been saying and against the supreme judicial counsel. mister earlier is a how problematic is bad, especially from a human rights perspective at this point. it certainly is extremely problematic that only the protests that are approved or accepted by the president seem to have the support. i mean, it seems that the direction that his government saying that there was a bad on demonstrations. there's an exception to that for today. you know, he had said actually that he would like to dissolve the, the higher traditional counsel. but he hasn't put forward something in writing that we've seen yet. but at the same time,
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he has also said that he called for people to go to the street center to protest against the higher traditional counsel today. and the previous guess that there were very few that showed up today less than 200 people. so in that sense, it does seem to be that in fact the there isn't widespread support for or, or what he's calling for. and in fact, it doesn't indicate that while previous protests have actually had police stopping people from coming to gather in downtown 2015 various parties who want to demonstrate not just those opposing the president, but generally wanted to sort of gather on january 14th to commemorate the day we're also prevented from meeting downtown. so there's a clear discrepancy in awe with you accompanied them the they've been a lot people on the shore this uneasy. it seems like a president sire is on
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a path right now. andy, while he is losing support or seems to be losing some support, at least in to in his ear. what about support from the international community who weren't very forthcoming in the condemnation, you know, of dissolve and parliament. many of the other steps that were taken, they seemed to want to, you know, give him a chance to see what would happen. where do you think things stand now? because we know that to nicea is in the economy is in a very bad state. it needs international money to prop up the economy and, you know, multi $1000000000.00 package from the international monetary fund is on hold at the moment. so how much leverage would you say the international community has right now? why agencies like the i m f. so up, what is clear today is that after 6 months of a, you know, grabbing power and confiscating power economy is a non question. it's a non subject by side. he never talk about it. the only moves he had where quite
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carrick actual, he went market and asked, you know, like, directly vendors to basically, you know, decrease prices. so people can buy, you know, goods. but we are you today is that because of, you know, the absence of will flow because of the absence of institutions into these yeah. investors international but also be, you know, like very local, national investors and left the country. people. i know why anything, you know, which employment, which could, you know, lead to economic development, especially after being hit hard by the pandemic. and you know, was one of the country you definitely, i think kind of levels for both the most because we are a country of, you know, providing services. so this is today having clear impact, very concrete, absolutely. of market. and how would it come?
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i was just ok please continue. no, i just wanted to say that we are really at the paid off at a very important social crisis which could lead to violence on the street. and this is more of a fear we have today. that is exactly what i was going to put to mr. her mommy, you know, could the sharp decline that in people's living sanders were already hearing of prices for many things going up. you know, the price of rice and sugar going up could a decline in people's living standards. because of, you know, the political, the economic situation in the country lead to a wider unrest and to nicea, well, we've decided that's the live in terms of age and i've been declining for the last 2 years, i would say continuously, people are usually right now. those associated with the bad thought is
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reducing yes, that was a part of the problem. so i don't think they associated directly with the power grab, for example. however, it is right now frame in the public discourse as as a result of rejection of any willingness to collaborate with, with, with the union or with the, with presenting a business owners. so i am skeptical of claims that rise of this kind of fear that we will, that will become violent like it happened once, right? yes. history. in 1984, it happened. that was the only i would say really violent. but this and the military was deployed. i don't expect that kind of denial to happen again. i
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don't think that the security apparatus would be willing to repeat scenarios similar to 1984. however, that may impact directly the level of support to president pages. i was seeing a decline the significantly and yet, you know, we have people like the spokes person of the un human rights office and groups like amnesty international. they are quite worried about the actions of the security apparatus. mr. allie, reason, you know, the un human rights office saying they really condemned imprisonment, the senior leader at and now the saying that the incident echoes practice is not seen since the era of president, then ali aberdeen ban ali. and that it raises serious questions regarding abduction enforce disappearance, an arbitrary detention. is there a role?
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do you think for the un into nicea at the moment the international community has been quite vocal and in the last few months they've, they've made several statements for some groups. they would say that the statements have not gone part of enough for other groups. they would say that these statements are actually counter productive in terms of what they would like to see in terms of human rights into nija on, on the question of sort of police violence. there's certainly been police violence, all economic issues, specifically over the last several years. i mean, we saw in 2018 as mr. me said, we haven't, we, we haven't seen anything on the scale as deadly as what happened in 1084. but there certainly has been police repression off socio economic protest, economic movement across the country, particularly outside of tunis in certain hotspots, where people have been calling basically for development for investment. actually, one of the reasons why president high side we received some popularity or some
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support was who promised to suffice corruption. but so far, what we've seen is all of the steps that he's taken extra traditionally has been actually against political opponents, but not necessarily against corrupt officials or business men or some of the people that you had previously said. you might actually look to and try to solve the corruption issues. can he rule on his own? you know, mr. her mom was talking about how he's not going to work with the union. he's not working with political parties. miss ne, see it's, is it possible for him to actually rule the country on his own? he needs some allies, doesn't he? especially with the challenges facing tune his ear right now at 0 to clear this county 10 notes, the lads, oh managed, especially after the revolution only if you do a context of dialogue of having, you know, the most possible stakeholders a one table but i size is definitely,
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i say it again and is elated more than more than ever. and i don't see how this could be sustainable. i think that's what he did yesterday. and the dissolution of this important institution is going to basically do the work. it is the grant work for a mass or resting, or, you know, among political openings at this is a step forward for the complete absence of rule of law. i don't see how political parties are national organisation, kent's, she'll not call this a coo or can still support him, or evan can still, you know, expect that or he will do, you know, something to basically take the country off this a cottage and, and social crisis and the numbers are not, so i'm not like, i mean, i think we have been in that position of weakness toward the international
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community. so what international financial institution let, and that is very well, let me put that to mr. money because he's in the us. how much leverage does the u. s. government have you know that they themselves a 500000000 dollar infrastructure grant is stored, the state department is holding back some military support funds and congress is threatening to reduce or cancel u. s. economic assistance to, to next year. unless conditions improve yes, well, there were discussions on the leverage that had happened dr. july. but i think that the news tracy is not interesting and anything like that. there is some pressure coming from the congress. they conditioned the military a specifically result of kind of i received
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a report that would have to be submitted to the congress student to evaluate the extent to which the military was involved in the july 25th events. and if the meet there is involved, then according to us legislation, the west cannot provide any form of meditation support. and this would be the equivalent of around a $100000000.00. there was no cuts actually in the budgeting that they did not reduce the budget. they got the same level as 20202019 about to something up there is i would say division, but the buyer is willing to work with with any form of resume, whether it's the radical democratic. all right, we don't have very long left in the program and i'd like to ask a quick question to all of you before we end mr. alvarez, what do you think it's going to take for to nicea to, to, to return to
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a functioning democracy. and what would you say is at stake for the region? well, i think season democracy is a project that's been ongoing. certainly something that's been open to contestation, the avenues of contestation over what a democracy looks like and what it means have changed since july 25th. where the debate is happening, where that sort of discussion is happening. it's no longer happening in parliament . so some of those discussions have gone behind closed doors. however, some of them may be going out into the streets as well. so we'll see whether the debate over where it's usually going, whether it will be played out in the streets, whether it was paid out with other institutions. certainly, unions and different association have taken clears, then since july 25th, some of them are, are taking clear stands increasingly clear stands whether they'll be a groupings or alliance. and certainly some of the opponents of side have not
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worked together up to this point, but maybe end up working together later on. so there's, there's clearly a question mark over which the, which groups will be there and missing the see. i could see you disagreeing with that. yeah. well, i think it is really amazing to say that there is still discussions going on in the country. you know about what a democracy. like when you basically have no, you know, debates and public debates and you more, i know all the because i don't want to shut down. but also because the media is basically not free and you more because people are to sensor a them south because there is and you decree which is the key point out. we will fight your organization and everybody is afraid. everybody has a kind of and been a number on their heads up. and you know, there is more discussions and people are living in a, in a situation and
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a context where fear is every where and where people and especially more, you know, from today are expecting themselves to be victims of the arbitrary. because now living in taylor be it's really important that people stop to acknowledge what is really going on and stop, you know, this kind of like double situation only because for them what is important is that not that is not on what it's called in skipping more or not part of the government anymore. and should really look at the global picture because today they are probably, you know, i cited and his as reporters are coming for people. but you, you, so physically with. but i thought when they will come to you, because the people who very strong laura, laura, okay, i'm afraid we have run out of time, but i want to thank all of our guests for this discussion that is side o d. c in tunis, muhammad, there her mommy in syracuse and fight. father ali visa,
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