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at the game operations at u. s. car manufacturers have been disrupted by protests in canada that have blocked a vital border crossing truck drivers. they're angry about co, 19 measures and have blockaded the ambassador bridge between canada and the u. s. general motors has canceled shifts at michigan factory while ford is running and canadian factories at a reduced capacity. and hundreds of people have been protesting in ghana against to propose new fee on electronic payments. the government is planning to introduce a 2 percent tax known as the e levy on digital transactions of more than $16.00. politician, supporting the lowest site will help raise money for development projects. those are the headlines. i'm emily anglin. the news continues here on al jazeera, after inside story. britain's beloved carrie houses are in crisis to
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indian don is shut down every week due to breakfast, financial thrive, and the one i want you to investigate on just 0 muslim and hindu students in india face off on the right to where head scarves in class. so is this a religious issue or a broader debate on minority rights and identity in india? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammered. jim jerome, in the constitution guarantees a secular state and religious freedom, but minority muslims say they face increasing harassment and discrimination from the hindu majority. the latest controversy revolves around a ban on head scarves in school. it started last month when 6 muslim female
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students in karnataka state protested against being barred from class. hindu students held counter demonstrations wearing scarves in saffron, a color associated with hindu nationalism. right wing groups have been accused of fueling the dispute. the state has shut down schools until friday, while it's high court considers the issue. will bring in our guests in a moment. but 1st, this report from poverty metal in new delhi ha videos that defined the growing tensions in the state of connecticut in southern india. students aligned with him, 2 groups heckler women, for wearing a boot camp as competing villages st. john's, a hood. every religion has freedom, their falling, their culture, and i'm following mind. they should let us follow our culture and not to raise obstacles for us. a few weeks ago, 16 needs students were barred from wedding head scarves in the classroom. those protests have now spread across the state with more women demanding the right to
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cover their heads in class, opposing them or hinder groups. they been marching, wearing saffron colored scarves and shawls, and some hoisted a saffron fly. the color is considered sacred by many hindus, uniform, uniform, the same for every one. whether it is hindu, mostly christian, they should abide and wear uniform and the job has to be kept outside the gate. a government run by prime minister marines modi's party joined the party has supported school and college administrators inventing muslim girls wearing heads in class. the route has ignited the debate about minority rights in india that these in the supreme assist groups are the same. you know, the self same groups that since 2008 attack women in the same coastal cut america area for visiting bumps for bedding western loads, they ballantine days coming up and the same group will be out on the street at clint, couple of levels. what's the thing together and saying that you're not allowed to
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factor nice with somebody who's not your husband and so on. so these are extremely resistive group that has nothing feminist about the objection to the job. they are merely trying to prevent any, you know, this, this sink the spaces form of the limbs and colleges. and i think the space for interaction between him to and the state government closed all high schools and colleges until friday, while the high court judges here legal arguments and decide whether or not the law on constitutional freedom is been broken off in the middle. alger zita, new dairy. ah. all right, let's bring in our guests in new delhi, father han, a journalist at the quint, and how would i, chandra, assistant professor of government at georgetown university. and also in a deli honest tanveer advocate at the supreme court of india and founder of the
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indian civil liberties union. a warm welcome to you all, and thank you so much for being on the program today for to my let me start with you. how did all this begin in karnataka? did it all just start in the past month with a handful of students protesting after they were told they couldn't attend school if they were wearing the her job or, or were there other incidents as well? well, it started with sticks on young. i mean was, can be mean we've been reading that he just but he has no leaking up monday. incidentally, i'm going to that one and being bullied by a job. and that is even these that, that know, this is unacceptable. job is about to find identity. he's an artist, i did it, and it is in obstructing you or you're not using any of your own. so let us in but they were going to not lender will not be back on their head. and that is eating,
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do you go as they look it up on them says to protest against this victory? absolutely, i'd be judy one. see that was in that one. is that one college incident? he wasn't going to college a private institution. and in that very well, when this doesn't look dec, i don't want to see because as i fundament united allowed to express, i says valid, i'm, if you want to do an interview, there isn't a one day protest even to the snowball in the national. you was, it became nationally was and might be what, what the university colleges decided to one day to stop them from entering. you've still waiting. well, i felt that there was mentioning the difference between whether it's a state institution or of, or a private institution. when it comes to where the, her job i want to ask you, i want to take a step back for a moment. were female students in karnataka state allowed to wear had scarves to
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class before that didn't depend upon what kind of institution they were going to. and also is asking a muslim woman not to wear her job in karnataka or other parts of india, a violation of their rights as citizens. it's definitely a nation of their right to my, i mean, i think that the constitution give everyone an equal right to practice and propagate their religion. and that has never been an issue with people marrying man, really natal on muslim women bedding ahead stuff. and i really see that this is a kind of deliberate and mischievous boy and not the guy is very much a grown tactic. clearly political tactics, which i suppose before, the next national election. there is a big push for the uniform code. and this is something that the current regime in
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india would like to actually see us from your perspective. does, banning the job in these schools go against the constitutional rights of the students. i ended, it does what is the constitutional light of these students? but most importantly, this is not because they are like over. i mean, obviously the constitutional rights have been violated by dubbing wiley did without the state having any legal overdue. so the college hasn't never prescribed any uniform. it's not done. the students are going against the say, are going against the uniform or the building. now they have all of these factors observe the job. the state has no legal standing. the law either in the state of connecticut education act does not give any follow. do they go late, uniform of the students? the no need to release the institutions. and even if there is a mention of a uniform, it is only with regard to giving all of the school to be in an uniform rich. this
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is school has not done yet. so this whole exercise where they're gonna be doing it under stopping. sometimes violently, these students will end in college, my little really the job is unconstitutional and against all the signals of the law and phantom up from your vantage point on these tensions between hindus and muslims . i mean, obviously that's nothing new, but the fact that these long running tensions are now playing out among a different generation among younger people that it's affecting students and not just middle aged politicians or policy makers. what does that, what does that say to you about the state of things in india right now. it's absolutely unfortunate. you know, i speak to so many young them as part of my job because i call it communism. i call it social justice. and so many of them have said that in the last 5 years, 7 on,
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you know, they have lost their friends, they have lost, it closes things, people who they never thought would turn out to be big. it would not be in that in a to be then leaving this saw just be leading to sort of adding it and it was convicted on the last day and it wasn't really when i felt for them. i seen that i said nothing in doing what i'm reading them, that i was leaving this country and on whose invalid. but just the fact that the people who taught would never leave your say like that would never one day go on and on and say these things inside handle visual and that, and also to see this younger than that he job angry, hopefully driving one it will be, she's at then trying to enter her into the school and these could be what be young or maybe extended young boys begging the assessing to was hanging head asking, being some ending on the jumping feelings of jesse, she still managed. willard had high and well seen and eating meaning to lucy said
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that, you know, some of them, many of them who don't say this, but some of them will classmates. people see decking names. imagine the trauma that day and it is or like that can even because it's not some vba on it. even go to bedding against emily, offend your classmates who die. i saw a tweet of yours where i believe you were referring to some of these students that videos have emerged showing them as are trying to go to class and being heckled by by others there by other male students. many of them wearing these saffron robes, heckling the women that are in the, her job. and in the, one of your tweets, you said that some of these female protesters are showing more courage than the entire opposition in india, which cannot raise this matter on the eve of a critical election. why, in your opinion, can the opposition not bring this issue up? well, i think the b, j. p,
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the change the political discourse. increasingly, you have the calm response. you try and also say hinduism is different from handbook, which is do what i have. but i think we have to accept that many of our handle classmates and maybe one of them, compatriots are tired of this kind of common violence. and this kind of politics and the opposition is not willing to take it on because they recognize society has moved in majority can interaction. so they find that actually there is no incentive for them beyond appeal to just just perhaps the week, but they are not going to make this into a major election issue. they are not going to make this into a big debate about the idea of honest, let me ask you about the fact that the, the high court, which is hearing
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a petition by muslim girls to allow the use of her jobs and educational institutions while they referred the case to a bigger panel of judges was that expected and from your vantage point, what happens now? so the matter was reported by the thing, the judge due to a larger major as it is quite. i'm the larger venture, continued the heading today. really good functions, why made from the final petitioner why there was the i human and demand for an a release. and while ago his stomach goes, i've been to college, let them observe dominant and other college. let them continue with their study because they have the article exams, if i remember going to keep the ball. so the court was not in going to go grand that to leave the my. there is no listing for no concentration, an argument on monday. and from my understanding of it,
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and the law starters, as the lowest dance god should do. in all fairness, oh, in order in is designed in favor of their mission. because this is their constitutional for knowing delight. and is there like 2 expressions with as hey, what you will is also part of your like to be busy? i mean, obviously there's also like to live in liberty. no such action can be no, no, no action, no executive action can be taken, which isn't going to engine of the fundamental lives. either that is the case study . they have been in action for which they never high level and which one of the reasons the hopes constitution fatima, whenever this, this ruling is delivered? will there be other legal avenues available to the female students after the ruling is made? where might the case go from here?
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molina, daisy with more wealthy. strict on and was issues. but i think so silly. ah, what elderly? maybe they these visuals just look at these visuals. imagine a country where this is being out in 21st century 20. when you were young woman cannot in diamond, you know, we've had the conversations about women's access to education was entities now and suddenly via still hadn't wide who that the section of a certain community source would not be allowed access. and i would like to be missing, unfortunately the disposing. india is such that it is just huge from that being amount of funding in today we're discussing that and i do about being, you know, should we mean be reading the double lot? is it, is it something that we should be reading? is it, is it something that they mean foursquare or the kind of conversation i'd, it's dea sounding was mean you do think those could be for the young boys? what? heckling that, who are the feminists of some sort, article views of science and mr. values was that you hadn't one position about
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choice was conditioning, know they are men will head as single fuel uber or being on the fluid. and we have to see this in the larger context of what has been happening with the muslims in the country, inc or not. because specifically, that has been laws brought in against can, was in a force woocommerce in. so it was able to be used as to the judges, one after another, up in muslim meaning into faith relationships have been quite as and abuse because they've been forced air. they've been accused of us when he got working on the, on, on them in just a couple of months ago just for your, the school at and 6 months before that and least was brought out with, you know, muslim demean, roman was the means on the list it was lloyd's what auction online, i incidentally happened to be on both of those lists. so you have to see this in just this whole diet of disturbing events. one of the other against muslims. i just
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want to go back for a moment to the issue of these state elections that have begun that are going to be playing out in phases. first of all, i'm curious to know how much you think the religious issue is, will become a part of these elections. will the headscarf issue be a much bigger part of the election than also? do you believe that political actors are going to be trying to capitalize on these rising tensions? i think you have to come online weeks and i think this is something from the pv studio, then am i in the media? i think they're ready to bring this up to common like the election. they don't want to focus on the incompetence for development. that is that the last 5 years and you'll be his truck. so they want version of the narrative and naca you narrative. i don't think it's important issue from job because after
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6 that reading the top one is also that under mental liked and it was an issue in the ninety's aware to be sick. but today this is not an issue. so i don't think it's going to have a film in go out and in punjab. annette from your vantage point is what we're seeing happening right now. what's playing out in the car? not the guy is this unprecedented this is not a busy day face deals now. i don't know how long it does look like that having to action by the state doctors to redo my husband's. we have seen bite in the speeches. we have seen that even though the muslim obstructed under the state looks the other. i didn't know the other side.
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if he a driveway and honest a doctor going these hospitals the either the, the single, their homeless city i'm. it is not something so facing it. they had a problem with the mostly my dignity. i was slim woman, really observing his job is an associate of high identity as a whole slim. i'll dyke our sojourn while predicted by the constitution makes these 2 goons. i well, the wounds make these bonds, may know us. i live. this is a training to watch me do my vision and was in pushing muslims to the cyclic fatima, how concerned are you right now that the attacks on religious identity have escalated this much? and later on, you know, because in the last couple of weeks i focused my reporting on with this incident, he is going for election study. and what i found is that large scale denials that
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used to be commonplace and india had been least valence ladies. so imagine and was the woman a young girl sitting in any part of the country watching these visuals play out? what kind of an impact would you have on her psychologically? you know, it is essentially sending out the message that look, we can do anything with you at any point and we can snatch away any of that. i said good for granted. and you won't be able to do anything about it. so that kind of psychologically messaging i'd see, is much more dangerous than a concert localized eye or communal violence because it leaves a much more a longer in bag. and you know, the plane in this day is repeatedly one of the batteries is august. go may have been be even l b o, which means save the voice i interviewed the guns i. but at this point of bank, even debating in with them that in the gallery accessing low costume with clearly leaving my many, many 100 steps backwards. but i, i saw you nodding along to
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a lot of what fatima was saying there. so look like you wanted to jump in, go ahead. you know, i completely agree with my just and i really think that the rule of law is now on, on, on try it. and i think, you know, the fact that there's going to cause not before the issue itself, i think the problem and i think that, you know, they could have easily said that we should be able to wear whatever they want and carry on with their exams. and classes, but they chose not to do this and they chose to make an issue where both sides being equally valid, argued. and i think that of a linear problem. and you know, i think that the mental right, something violated with impunity. incentives of very bad message and it's the same method. and when the mom in open spaces was targeted in just
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mixture debbie. so i think there are a number of these incidents micro level in for them. so different localities, them states which come together in cyberspace to create an atmosphere which is of intimidation and ultimately lawlessness. because it's the law is not going to protect the minority. and we also, we have to talk about that. but there are people who are not to be protected by the law and the citizens of this country. and it's really a huge problem if there are large parts of the country that by the law and on i said it's hard. this really has re ignited the debate about the rights of india as minorities under the hindu nationalist government hasn't. oh yes, it has. and i would agree with what they said. it is the rule of law that is on trial, and i'll extend it to the fact that it is course they don't try legally. see the
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democratic side of that is in india. that culture, of course, become the same to know q we, that is the custodian of the constitution. i'm the minorities unpredicted by that constitution and that was initially predicted by the court. why did the course look the other way? or if they are not actively predicting minorities predicting those way endangered, predicting those were of this, with the situation really got to what it has already come for any one has the power to take it almost in good going to school are going to college or if those voices are these, both voices are shut down by saying that her we also have like to wear her chosen. i say, what is a story you from reading that bike. you cannot take away the light of her almost a moment where, where that is her. so this is a dive on the idea you did this is an attack on the democratic and was due so sort
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of overdue. furthermore, we don't have a whole lot of time left, but let me just ask you, do you think that we're going to see these protests and counter protest growing in the week? said thank you. so i think so did in the last few years. if you remember when you, when you did a writing that i owe and this is what i did and that one is bank also stuck in as a bunch of people who support the government or to be stopping this. don't go against people who are asking was if you don't, if you put us in against the citizens of amendment that and that go desk on the go daddy, you know, boy, or was actively manufactured, orchestrated in such a way that was what i liked, at least in the national was so i think i'm 1000000000 on list or active each i seem to being and stepping and give the zooming that i said the on the line is busy . i'm a city and the you know what is going to wednesdays?
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no one. all right. well, we have run out of time to we're gonna have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much. all of our guest fatima han would i chandra and honest tanveer and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also during the conversation on twitter, our handle is at ha, inside story mohammed im doing a whole team here. bye for now. dictatorships to democracies, activists to corporations. control of the message is crucial. oil companies have become very good at recognizing ways to phrase what they want him to hear. we care about the environment you do to you should buy our oil, please for public opinion or profit. once you make people afraid,
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