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muslim and hindu students in india face off on the right to where head scarves in class. so is this a religious issue or a broader debate on minority rights and identity in india? this is inside storage. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammer, jim jim, in the constitution guarantees a secular state and religious freedom, but minority muslims say they face increasing harassment and discrimination from the hindu majority. the latest controversy revolves around
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a ban on head scarves in school. it started last month when 6 muslim female students in karnataka state protested against being barred from class. hindus. students held counter demonstrations wearing scarves in saffron, a color associated with hindu nationalism. right wing groups have been accused of fueling the dispute. the state has shut down schools until friday, while it's high court considers the issue. will bring in our guests in a moment. but 1st, this report from poverty metal in new delhi ha videos that defined the growing tensions in the state of to not to go into india. students aligned with him to groups heckler women for wearing a boycott as competing religious. johns, a hood. every religion has freedom defiling their culture and i'm following mind. they should let us follow our culture and not to raise obstacles for us. a few weeks ago, 16th students were barred from wedding head scarves in the classroom. those
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protests have now spread across the state with more women, demanding the right to cover the heads in class, opposing them off in the groups. they have been marching, reading, saffron colored scarves and shawls, and some hoisted a saffron flag. the color is considered sacred by many hindus ego uniform, a living song, uniforms seem for every one. whether it is hindu, muslim or christian, they should abide and wear uniform and the he job has to be kept outside the gate. the state government run by prime minister marines are more these party gentle party has supported school and college administrators in banning muslim girls wearing head scarves in class. the route has v ignited the debate about minority lights in india that these in the supreme assist groups are the same. you know the self same groups that since 2008 attack women in the same coastal karnataka, india for visiting bubbs for vetting west aren't lords, are they of valentine's day is coming up and the same groups are to be out on the
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streets. heckling couples level as was the think together and saying that you're not allowed to factor nice with somebody who's not your husband and so on. so these are extremely regressive groups that has nothing feminist about bed of objection took a job, they are merely trying to prevent any, you know, this is sync the spaces on with slims in our colleges, and will think the spaces for interaction between hindu and muslim the state government closed all high schools and colleges until friday, while the high court judges here legal arguments and decide whether or not the law on constitutional freedoms is being broken off. nathan ultras. eda new denny. ah. all right, let's bring in our guests in new delhi, fatima han, a journalist at the quint into how would i, chandra, assistant professor of government at georgetown university and also in new delhi
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honest tanveer advocate at the supreme court of india and founder of the indian civil liberties union, a warm welcome to you all and thank you so much for being on the program today. fatima, let me start with you. how did all this begin in karnataka? did it all? just start in the past month with a handful of students protesting after they were told they couldn't attend school if they were wearing the job or, or were there other incidents as well? well, it started with sticks on young women in the mean. we've been waiting the job, but he is now leading up monday. incidentally, i'm going to that one and being bullied by a job. and that is even the said that no, this is unacceptable. is good job is a part of an identity outside the general and it isn't stopping you or you're not in any view on anybody would want to know whether to be not be back on the head
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and that is eating. do you go as they took it upon themselves to protest against this oddity? absolutely, i'd be judy, want to see that was the least in that. why did you never, why college incident, he wasn't going to college, a private institution. and in that very moment is a see, because as i fundamentally knightstead allowed to access and then the time to float, if you want to do an interview that isn't home you and any of you one day or test even to the snowboarding national, yours, it became nationally was and might be what, what the university colleges decided to one day to stop them from i'm doing you still waiting that it would i fall to mother was mentioning the difference between whether it's a state institution or a or a private institution. when it comes to wearing the hedge up, i want to ask you,
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i want to take a step back for a moment. were female students in karnataka state allowed to wear had scarves to class before that? did it depend upon what kind of institution they were going to and, and also is asking a muslim woman not to wear her job in karnataka or other parts of india, a violation of their rights as citizens. it's definitely a nation of their right to my, i mean, i think that the constitution give everyone an equal right to practice and propagate their religion. and then there's never been an issue with people wearing a big man wearing a turban on muslim woman bedding ahead stuff. and i see that this is a kind of deliberate and mischievous boy and not the guy is very much grown tactic. clearly political tactics, which i suppose before the next national election. there is
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a big push for the uniform code. and this is something that the current regime in india would like to actually see us from your perspective does banding. the job in these schools go against the constitutional rights of the students. i ended, it does what is the constitutional light of these students? but most importantly, this is not because they are not over. i mean, obviously the constitutional rights have been violated by dubbing wiley did without the state having any legal overdue. so the college has never prescribed any uniform . it's not that the students are going against the say are going against the uniform or the building. now they have all of these factors observe the job. the state has no legal standing, the lawyer or in the state of connecticut education act does not give any follow. do they go late? uniform of this food is the knoll. neither believes that institutions i'm,
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even if there is a mention of a uniform, it is only with regard to giving all of the school to be in an uniform rich. this is school has not done yet. so this whole exercise where they're gonna be doing it under stopping, sometimes violently, these students are in college, my life on the right. really, the job is unconstitutional and against all the same number of bo, law and phantom up from your vantage point. these tensions between hindus and muslims. i mean, obviously that's nothing new. but the fact that these long running tensions are now playing out among a different generation among younger people that it's affecting students and not just middle aged politicians or policy makers. what does that, what does that say to you about the state of things in india right now. it's absolutely unfortunate. you know, i speak to so many young things as part of my job because i color communism. i call
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it so so justice and so many of them have said that in the last 5 years, 7 audio, as they have lost their friends, they have lost fictional, sustains people who they never thought would turn out to be bid. it would not be in that in, but it would be then eating this saw just be leading the start of ending in 8 and it was conventional and the last and i feel but maybe when i thought, then i seen that as that nothing can be more i'm reading than that i was leaving this country, you know, was invalid. but just the fact that the people who would never leave your say that would never want to go on and on and say these things in 2nd. go visual and that and also to see this young girl then the he job, angry hope all is driving on a beach. she's been trying to enter us into the school. and these could be for the young or maybe extremely just young boys betting assessing to was hanging hood asking, being so meeting on the dancing feelings of jesse,
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she still managed. we'll go ahead high and we'll see any that meaning the new he said that you know, some of them, many of them who don't say this, but some of them will have lost needs. you can see decking names. imagine diploma that day. and it is or like that and even when, because it's not some vehicle towed it even though they're betting against emily. offend your classmates who die. i saw a tweet of yours where i believe you were referring to. some of the students that videos have emerged showing them as they're trying to go to class and being heckled by, by others there by other male students. many of them wearing these saffron robes, heckling the women that are in the ha job. and in the, one of your tweets, you said that some of these female protesters are showing more courage than the entire opposition in india, which cannot raise this matter on the eve of a critical election. why in your opinion,
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can the opposition not bring this issue up? well, i think the b j. p, the really changed the political discourse. increasingly, you have the congress baki try and also say hinduism is different from what you do . but, but i think we have to accept that many hindu classmates and maybe compatriots are honest and tired of this kind of common violence and the kind of politics and the book and the opposition is not willing to take it on because they recognize that society has moved in majority can in direction, so they find but actually there is no incentive for them beyond your total gesture, perhaps the tweet, but they are not going to make this into a major election issue. we are not going to make this into a big debate about the idea of honest, let me ask you about the fact that the,
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the high court, which is hearing a petition by muslim girls to allow the use of her jobs and educational institutions. while they referred the case to a bigger panel of judges, was that expected and from your vantage point, what happens now so that the matter was referred by the thing though, judging to a larger major as it is quite. i'm the larger venture you're having today. some really good missions were made from the final position. why did they also i human and demand for an a release. and while ago i've been to college, let them observe their job and other college continue with their study because they have the doctor. if i remember going to keep people so the court was not going to go grab that to leave my there is no mr. no concentration
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and argument on monday. and from my understanding of it. and the last times as the last dance, the court should do in august. oh, in order in is designed in favorable definitions because this is their constitutional fundamental, the light. it is the right tool. expressions have been good as hey, what you will is also part of your like to be busy. i mean, obviously it is also like to live in liberty. no such action can be no, no, no action, no executive action can be taken which isn't going to engine of the heart. i'm a delight. i think that is the case today. they have been in action for which they never high level and which one to reach the constitution fatima whenever this this ruling is delivered, will there be other legal avenues available to the female students after the ruling
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is made? where might the case go from here? louisiana even more well based on, on those issues, but i think so city ah, what able to really me beat i have these visuals just look at these visuals. imagine a country where this is being out in 21st century 20. when you were young woman cannot in the timing, you know, we've had the conversations about the means. access to education was entities now and suddenly via still had had wide who that a section of a certain community source would not be allowed access. and i would like to be seen unfortunately the disposing. india is such that it is just, you know, that being the most fundamental basic good discussions or can i do about being, you know, should we mean be reading that we double or is it, is it something that we should be reading? is it, is it something that they mean foursquare on, on the kind of conversation i, it's the astounding was me, you think those could be for the young boys?
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what heckling that, who are the feminists of some sort, honestly, views of and minister values was and we had this conversation about choice was conditioning, know they are men who had as single fuel uber or being a woman. and we had to see this in the larger context of what is being happening with the muslims in the country in canada, because specifically that has been laws brought in against can, was in a force woocommerce in. so it was able to be used as the judges, one after another job in muslim naming into faith relationships have been quite as and abuse because they've been forced. they've been accused of us when he got working on the on, on them. demean, ugh, just a couple of months ago this, earlier the school had and 6 months before that and least was brought out with, you know, muslim, demean, rominger image on the list. it was boyd's, what auction online. i incidentally happened to be on both of those lists. so you
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have to see this in just this whole diet of disturbing events. one of the other against muslims. i just want to go back for a moment to the issue of these state elections that have begun that are going to be playing out in phases. first of all, i'm curious to know how much you think the religious issue is, will become a part of these elections. will the headscarf issue be a much bigger part of the election? and also, do you believe that political actors are going to be trying to capitalize on these rising tensions? i think i have to live in recent weeks and i think this is something from the tv studio and that i live in the media. i think they're ready to bring this up to come in like the election. they don't want to focus on the incompetence for development that the last 5 years and you'll be his product. so be want
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a diversion of the narrative and some naca narrative. i don't think it's important issue and job because after 6 say that reading the top one is also that under mental liked and it was an issue in the ninety's aware of that. but today this is not an issue. so i don't think it's going to have effect in, in go or in, in punjab, annessa from your vantage point is what we're seeing happening right now. what's playing out in the car, not the guy, is this unprecedented this is not a busy day, se, se a deal. now i don't know how long to divide muslims having to action by non stay doctors to redo, my brooklyn's. we have seen that fight in the speeches. we have seen that even the mazda obstructed under the state,
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looks the other. i don't know the other side. if he a driveway, an honest a doctors or when these hospitals the either the other side of their homeless city, i'm. it is not something so facing it. they have a problem with the mostly my dignity. i was slim woman, really observing her job is an associate of her id to be as a whole slim. i'll dyke our sojourn while predicted by the constitution makes these 2 goons. i call the wounds, make these bonds. very nurse, i live. this is a great to watch like to my vision and was in pushing muslims to the cyclic fatima, how concerned are you right now that the attacks on religious identity have escalated this much? and later on, you know, because in the last couple of weeks i focused my reporting on with this incident he
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is going for election study. and what i found is that large scale denials that used to be commonplace in india had been leased by events. ladies. so imagine and was the woman a young girl sitting in any part of the country watching these visuals play out? what kind of an impact would you have on her psychologically? you know, it is essentially sending out a message that look, we can do anything with you at any point and we can snatch away any of the rights that you took for granted. and you won't be able to do anything about it. so that kind of psychologically messaging i'd see, is much more dangerous than a concerted localized eye or communal violence because it leaves a lot more along good in back. and you know, the plane in this day is repeatedly one of the best cities is august going had been b, e l, b o, which means steve, the voice i interviewed the guns i. but at this point of behavior, you've been debating with them that in the jobs belonging accessing to look not. hm
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. they're clearly leading my many, many steps backwards. what i, i saw you nodding along to a lot of work for them. i was saying they're so looks like you wanted to jump in, go ahead. you know, i completely agree with my just i really think that the rule of law is now on, on, on try it. and i think, you know, the fact that the high income before the issue itself, i think the problem and i think that, you know, they could have easily said that we should be able to wear whatever they want and carry on with their exams and classes. but they chose not to do this, and they chose to make information where both sides being equally valid, argue. and i think that of a linear problem. and, you know, i think that when bundled into something violated with impunity, incentive a very bad message and it's the same method that was sent when the mob in open
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spaces was targeted in dow, just mixture debbie. i think there are a number of these incidents micro level incidence and different localities them states which come together in cyberspace to create an atmosphere which is an apple of intimidation and ultimately lawlessness. because it's the lawyer to protect the minority and the list. and we also, we have to talk about that, but there are people who are not to be protected by the law and the citizens of this country. and it's really a huge problem if there are large parts of the only that by the law and on. i said it's hard. this really has re ignited the debate about the rights of india as minorities under the hindu nationalist government hasn't. oh yes, it has. and i would agree with what would they say?
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it is the rule of law that is on trial, and i'll extend it to the fact that it is course that our trial legally see the democratic say that that is in india, that culture and of course become the same to know if you read i was a custodian of the constitution, i'm my own the minorities unpredicted by that constitution and that was initially predicted by the courts, by the courts look the other way. or if they are not actively predicting minorities predicting those way endangered, predicting those were of this the situation really comes to what it has already come for. any one has the other good. get almost him good. going to school or going to college. all those voices are, these boys are shut down by saying that her we also have like to wear her chosen. i say, what is the story you from reading that? but you can not take away the light of her almost a moment where we're that we're her. so this is a guy on the, i didn't do the,
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this isn't a dark on the democratic and was to do so sort of offered you a father. we don't have a whole lot of time left, but let me just ask you, do you think that we're going to see these protests and counter protest growing in the week? said thank you. so i think so did in the last few years. if you remember when you, when you did a writing that i was in what i did and that one does, it also started as a bunch of people who support to move on to the starting. his don't go florida against people who are asking them if you don't, if you put us in against the citizens of amendment and then go disc on the go daddy, you know, boyd or was actively manufactured, orchestrated in such a way that was what i liked it in the national was so i think i'm 1000000000 on list or active each i seem to being and stepping and give the zooming that i said the on the line busy busy. i'm a city and the you know what is going to wednesdays?
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no one. all right. well, we have run out of time to we're gonna have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much. all of our guests, bottom of hon. would i, chandra, and honest tanveer and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also during the conversation on twitter, our handle is as a j inside story, muhammad and june whole team here, bye for now. ah
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