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tv   NEWSHOUR  Al Jazeera  February 21, 2022 9:00pm-10:01pm AST

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a quick us government, you've won you. one of the unprecedented ruling obliges the state to consult communities over oil and mining projects that impact their land and to seek their consent. the tiny seemingly community has won a huge battle, fighting to be not necessarily have the last word. since the court ruling does lead room for exceptions in the name of overriding national interests. ah, this is al jazeera ah. hello and welcome on peace adobe. you're watching the news, our lives from our headquarters here in doha, coming up in the next 60 minutes. the russian president vladimir putin says he'll decide in the coming hours on the demand to recognize rebel held eastern regions of
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ukraine as independent republics. a dangerous escalation, moscow says, is killed 5 people from ukraine who tried to breach its border. he f calls that fake news on his 1st trip to cancel the iranian precedence as talks to revive the 2015 nuclear do will not succeed unless the us bruce it's will by lifting sanctions . and living with corona virus, england is lifting all remaining restrictions, including the need to self isolate. i sort of a joke of it, she's about to make his 1st own call to parents of the year after his ejection from australia. the well, number one is that's a fine do by ah, it's 18 hours gmc and 9 pm in moscow where the russian president, vladimir putin,
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will be addressing the nation shortly, will bring it to you live. earlier, he held an extra ordinary meeting of the russian security council. there. he said a decision on whether to recognize the rebel held areas of eastern ukraine as independent states will be made within hours. the e u has called on mr. put in not to do that landscape, antoinette sc have been held by pro russian separatist forces for almost 8 years. and i shall listen to the goal of this meeting is to lay out our future plan. and then we will have in mind the fact that the governments of the done yes can do hands. republics, have asked the duma to accept their requests to have their independence recognized and the assembly will respond to that request. all these matters are closely related to global problems of security in the world and europe in particular. because using ukraine as a tool of confrontation is a big threat. that's exactly why in recent months we've asked to work with washington, a nato to come to an agreement on security matter. well,
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that's announcement came bailey, an hour after moscow said it had killed 5 people from ukraine who were preaching its board in the region of ra stuff. ukrainian military saying rushes assertions were fake news. allan fisher is live in washington where president biden is meeting his national security team. she had pretends he is live at the u. n in new york, where ukraine is calling for an urgent meeting of the un security council. james bays is in vienna with the organization for security and cooperation in europe is meeting a hold of me. it is on the ukrainian side of the nets region. first life to moscow and our correspond there. bernard smith, bennet recognition if it comes when it comes means, what do we think? oh pete, i have just in the last few seconds been told that a russian news agencies quoting the kremlin and excuse me are saying that that a me a put in as told emmanuel mack cronner all of schultz, the german chancellor that he intends to sign
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a decree on don bass shortly. so that's just coming in early now from a russian use agency. the suggestion that we know that vladimir putin has been discussing with his national security council earlier today on, on whether to recognize those 2 enclave of lou ganske and excuse me, of la guns and our nets in the dumbass region. whether to recognize them as independent. it looks like that decision is coming through a very significant momentous step, really in this a confrontation between ukraine and russia. because if russia recognizes those 2 areas as independent, there are a $100000.00 russian citizens living in them. it's ukrainian sovereign territory. but russia could say the leaders of those 2 countries are asking us to go and protect them. and by the mere putin could send his troops over the board into what is in ukraine. but what russia recognizes as potentially independent states,
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and as far as the kremlin is concerned, and as far as mister putin is concerned. yes, he's been on the phone to berlin. yes. he's been on the phone to the french leader, emanuel macro, but the only interlocutor that they seemed to be really interested in is joe biden . yan is taught but no confirmation of a potential earth summit meeting with joe biden further down the line. we do know that the supposed to be a meeting on thursday between rushes, foreign minister survey, laugh roth and the u. s. secretary of state antony blinkin that scheduled for thursday in geneva. no confirmation of the talks between biden and puts in but or the americans will not be willing to meet face to face with vladimir putin if he invades ukrainian territory. and if there is a risk, if that is see if that happens between now and then between now and any proposed
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meeting is unlikely, that is ever likely to get going because what the americans want is for the russians to pull back. of course, from the border with ukraine not to advance any further. then thank you very much, bernice mr. in moscow. well, the ukrainian president vladimir zalinski is holding a national security council meeting as well in kiev. or the adult hubbard is in constant in the car in easton, ukraine. or what's the reaction from kia to that news order i think just say. and the fact that he has convened is his national security team is a, is an indication that presidents zalinski is taking very seriously at the situation . he probably knows that this is a very grave moment, a for ukraine. i'm probably gonna be trying to figure out what is happening. we just heard bernard. they're saying that the president put in probably had
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a phone conversation with both the french president and the german chancellor is very probable that they have also called after that. a president zalinski do ukrainian president to tell him about this conversation. now what to do next for ukraine? it's a very complicated situation from the point of view of ukraine. the, the areas of the de tucson proclaim republics i would say are temporary occupied ukrainian region. does, how do they refer to them officially? and from the point of view of ukraine? russia has been occupying those 2 separate us areas ever since. back in 2014 is old is all was said all along that they were russian troops already there in some form or another not officially in the uniforms, but they were there as military advisor. they were providing weapons, they were providing support. now, if this comes true,
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and if president putin does officially recognize these choose self proclaimed areas at the moment, oh, certainly it will have repercussions on the ukrainian side. the you quit. the 1st question really would be, how far will that go on? we'll date will that, will that just be the beginning for russia to have a base in those areas. and then eventually push further because you have to remember that the separate is actually all this talk about the historical borders of, of the dumbass region. and those historical borders are quite further away than the territory they hold now, which is basically about a 3rd of the dome best region. well, where i am here is constantine of k is about 90 kilometers away from dawn. yes, the capital of one of those 2 regions and it is considered part to be included in that a historical border. so many questions for the ukrainians. and obviously the main
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one being what does that mean in terms of a military escalation? but it, when it comes to the size of the geographical location that mr puts in may or may not be just about to officially recognizes, fully independent republics. i guess that's what we're talking about here. we're not talking about annexation because we can't, i guess because the areas that the separatists held went historically going back to 2014. at one point they held a much bigger area, looking west and they have retracted, they, they have gone back to where they were originally heading east towards the border with russia. yes, the abs, that's absolutely true, but that's all that's the one of the main concerns of actually people alter. i've been chatting to ad throughout the evening. they're saying, well, you know, they were here here in consenting of k was under a separate. it's controlled for a few months back in 2014 and in the ukraine is pushed them back. so people are now
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worried if this goes ahead, what does it mean, especially that in these areas? you do have support for this separate as you do have support for russia, people speak russian and then you have those who are new ukrainian side. all this would become extremely complicated if in the dat happens because all of a sudden all these sentiments that have been dormant for a while ever says the ukrainians took control of these areas about 7 years ago, 8 years ago. well old that will come to the surface again. now if you go in kev, people will also start, did the leadership will be looking at what the military plan they've been working on them for quite a while. but we did hear president zalinski just a few days ago at munich security cove is expressing his frustration with the west saying yes, it's also good that you help us with some weapons with some helmets,
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with some ammunition, but nothing is happening. and we do know that that threat of an invasion is very real at the time he was talking about one soldier who had lost his life in the shelling zone to frontline. well, we just hear tonight that 2 more soldiers have died and we're still not there. as a full military operation, ukrainian army is better than what it used to be back in 2014. it has maybe about a 150000 combat ready soldiers. but his charity not enough in comparison to what do russians would have if this would happen or the thank you very much for the upcoming, corresponded the report in life from easton, ukraine. will the european union's top diplomat? joseph burrell says eas, sanctions are on the table. if mister putin does recognize the separatist in easton ukraine. frances calling for un security council meeting on the crisis diplomatic
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at the james bays, join us live here on the news out of vienna. recognizing these 2 regions in eastern ukraine, james, does that make the diplomatic jig saw very, very difficult. now. it very, very difficult indeed. and very difficult ahead. in the coming days when we're going to maybe get that meeting between the us secretary state and the russian foreign minister, it makes, i think the room for maneuver here very, very hard because all along the u. s. a said he's not going to decide things for ukraine and certainly cannot give up part of your credit and i'm sure won't give up part of you credit on behalf of ukraine. we've heard some fresh comments in the last couple of hours here in vienna. i'm outside the organization of security and cooperation in europe. they've had that permanent council meeting. some people don't know much about this organization. it's not got a very high public profile. it's actually quite important because it's permanent
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counseling to all sorts of members, including the us, including the europeans and including the russians. so it is quite an important organization to have a forum o debate on these issues. and at the start of the meeting, which was closed, i'm told that the 2nd general of the o. s. c. helga schmidt, cold for dialogue, the polish all the current chair. and i've read the final statement and really there was no sign of any progress. what was interesting though, with the strong comments coming from the u. s, although it was a closed statement and everything said was supposed to stay close, the us actually published the statement, michael carpenter, their ambassador said, this is not height, this is not hysteria. this is not provocation. the hold cold hard truth is russia is right now about create a pretext for military action. he said, we are on the precipice of a full scale war. and it's also was reminding you, one of the other important things of this organization beat up is that they're the
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ones with the monitoring mission. that the ones with the people actually on the ground watching what's going on in terms of the seas far in terms of the violation . and they publish reports every single day. they take a few days to come out. let me just give you the statistics because they are, they really show, i think what has happened in the last few days last wednesday on the 16th of february, there were 24 c spot violations the following day on the 17th $199.00 on the 19th $222.00. sorry on 80222. and on the 19th, $591.00. the 1900. the latest day that we have figures for not shows, i think the amazing scale of rise of violence in east the new crime to get the sense there. there tonight, james, that both sides all sides or are not the kind of accelerating past the diplomatic all from in as much as mister putin in the last we understand has been on the phone to berlin, paris, and he's clearly signaling the only person i want to talk to is joe biden,
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and nobody's saying that meeting in geneva on thursday is not going to happen. and yet it's like diplomacy. one or one isn't it? they talk hard. they, they act tough. there's this recognition may be just around the corner. and mister putin has another grip on eastern ukraine. well, so far from the american side, we don't have any news that meeting will take place on, says that the only condition that was put on by the americans. and you've heard this several times is we will meet if that hasn't been an invasion of ukraine. so that recognition if she hasn't been declared, i don't think necessarily will find out. i think in the, in the coming out in washington what the saying that the state department will necessarily stop that meeting. but that meeting to me feels like the very much the last ditch effort diplomacy. and i certainly don't think if that meeting goes badly,
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that you necessarily going to see the summit meeting between biden and putin. james, thank you very much. james bass. diplomatic editor, the the o. s. c in vienna. alan fisher is with us from the white house. allen, the bite ministration. what options do they feel they have left or joe biden is currently meeting with his national security team. they've been joined in the last hour by camel harris, the vice president. she of course, was in munich over the weekend, holding several. busy high profile discussions, notably with the president of the, of ukraine as well. in that meeting is the defense secretary lloyd austin, national security advisor, jake sullivan, and also antony blinking. who, of course, is the secretary of state. and they will be looking at the auctions. they have, clearly this could be a change that maybe they weren't expecting, but then they have got to decide whether or not invasion as far as they're concerned. also includes essentially taking over ukrainian sovereign territory by
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granting recognition to the, to brick away publics. and whether or not that will impact on the possibility of sanctions from the european union. the g 7 and nato countries, which of course, joe biden has warned about in, with concern that the russian tanks may actually cross the border. it may not get to that point. this may be seen by the americans as a provocation too far. and they may start introducing sanctions. something that a number of people in washington have been calling for, but jen sac, he jo biden's press secretary said on friday that that wasn't an option because for the moment not putting in sanctions meant that the russians went crossing the border. if the dead then they would be brought in immediately. this might change that whole equation. if we get from vladimir putin official recognition of these 2 m secessionist protected areas in eastern ukraine and they are in effect
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independent republics from then on. alan is that the worst case scenario for the bite and ministration? because if there is then some sort of substantial incursion or move across the border from russia into ukraine. if the u. s. slash the e u slash nature has to respond militarily. not only is it taking on russia is also taking on 2 independent countries. granted, newly independent republics made into republics by vladimir putin for that sort of complicates the whole military slash fighting scenario. just to be clear, i know u. s. troops will be involved. busy in, in fighting the russians and new utopian union troops and new nato troops. what they're doing is essentially shoring up their position and neighboring countries, such as romania or so in poland, but also in the baltic countries as well. and just in the last few hours when senior members of the administration have been on national tv here in the u. s,
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they have reiterated the point that no american troops will be involved in the fighting. what this will come down to is whether or not this is seen as an invasion, but in another form. so if the russian c, we recognize these republics as independent states, something they've done before with brickley areas in georgia. and then they send in troops to protect the russian speakers in those areas, the americans would probably consider that to be an invasion of ukrainian territory . joe biden has been very keen to use diplomatic measures. he was hoping that that would, that pressure, economically and politically would force our vladimir putin to back away from the border. and so there's still a lot of work to be done if he wants to get to that conclusion. but clearly, with the events of the last few hours, the national security team are considering all the options they have in front of them and what they can possibly do to stop vladimir putin ticking
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a step that would inevitably lead to russian troops coming across the border and therefore, sanctions being put in place on the french president calling an emergency national security meeting as well. we understand. so the diplomacy and people talking to their own people, these are the plans allen as well, around the world that's going on a pace. thank you very much. alan fisher. they're talking to us live from outside the white house in washington. okay. she had returns, he is our correspondence at the united nations. they want a meeting there. she have. what can they say and how can they achieve? well 1st of all, they have to have a meeting the ukrainians of us. are you an emergency you and security council meeting in order to have that take place? they need the support of a member off the un security council. ukraine is not a member of your security council. we've been asking around. no formal letter has been received as far as we can tell yet from the ukrainians requesting that meeting . but we've also been told by least one member of the un security council that they
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would support such a meeting, but it is worth bearing in mind that the rotating presidency of the security council this month is russia. now the russia called necessarily prevent a meeting from happening, but it could put, proceed, drew hurdles in the way, but then the rotating presidency is on a monthly basis. so that would last her belong anyway, because any 7 days left in the month. so these are the sort of the brother, tactical and procedural matters, will have to be thought of. so, but festival ukraine has to ask a member to, to, to, to support it's, it's, it's push for a meeting that hasn't happened yet, but the crane will have a voice of the un on wednesday. it just so happens that the annual un general assembly meeting on the crimea occurs this wednesday. the ukrainian foreign minister will be speaking there. i would expect many of the issues you've been discussing overlap several minutes to be discussed there as well. okay. she has many thanks, we'll talk to later. i'm sure, but in the meantime, thank you. let's bring in from moscow and rate quote to north is the director
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general of the russian international affairs council and recruitment. welcome back to the news. our here on al jazeera does mr. putins imminent. we think recognition of these to break away regions in east and ukraine, essentially. signal the death knell for diplomacy here. well, i'm not sure that this is the perception in moscow. maybe they believe that even with these republic, sir recognized that there is a way to some cow reformer to, to change the format or the means could human sent to go ahead. but definitely everybody understands that it would be a major complicated bacteria, ian dodge, that would really question the capabilities so far before i sign in part is due the means to get him was to go ahead. are we the de escalation process and with the implemented the agreements that they signed several years ago? but isn't he writing a cushion horses through post them inst agreement and the stana agreement for 2010?
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because i mean mister, put in is not known for doing you turns. so no matter how successful the diplomacy, particularly, i'm think about geneva, thursday, antonio lincoln sag, elaborate no matter how successful that diplomacy may or may not be mister putin. if he recognizes to night or say even breakfast time, moscow time, tomorrow. if he recognizes these 2 areas as sovereign states, as republics, he's not about to on recognize them. by wednesday night into thursday morning. when his foreign secretary, his foreign minister, sits down opposite antony, blinking. i will say with more ease. he does recognize lisa to baker republic, sir, the order that he will dispatcher or russian troops are to secure the or the line. it's been this republics and the rest of you game because this is the major goal to stabilize the, the,
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the border i and to make sure that the people who now lead to russia can get back to their places of primitive residence. so i think that this is something that can be interpreted as an invasion law. i do not think that that does, that would produce a lot of collateral damage in terms of casualties. i think that we cannot expect that that will necessarily trigger a major ration canyon, a military interaction. that does seem to be an awful lot of the, the dark arts and misinformation and dis, information being deployed here. and re, cartoon off. we just talked specifics for a 2nd question one, do you believe that 5 ukrainians tried to cross the border for mount and incursion across the border into russia, from ukraine and allegedly, reportedly they paid with their lives?
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i cannot confirm this information. i cannot reach olu with the official releases that i received. i filed this story is somewhat odd, although i cannot remember a couple of teachers, brenda, but units on both sides, sir, i got lost and they could have accidentally cross the border. i yeah, find it very difficult just to are believe that it was a purposeful penetration because indeed her the board is, are well guarded and i don't see what particular mission such a unit might have had. but are i i cannot confirm it. i dont not do not know the situation on the ground. was your reading of the mindset as far as the military planners are concerned in moscow when it comes to the way that the russians consistently and they were doing this 22 and a half weeks ago. now, when sag elaborate had to sit down with them the u. s. secretary of state mister
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blinkin, they seemed to be talking about 2 vastly differing interpretations of the same situation. and to day, we have seen the lines coming out of the russian security council meeting. and also the kremlin, essentially behaving in the same way describing the conflict in terms numbers, descriptive terms, figures, nomenclature, that nobody else can substantiate or prove. it's almost as if the russians are seeing a different conflict to every one else. well, my take is that, so what we hear common on the security council is supposed to serve the domestic audience. i and our deaf j. there is a significant degree of propaganda here, and i thought the 1st time that we got it all though, again, i have to say that it's very difficult to get them you'll did should because they
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are all good situations and this information coming from both sides and this is something that you should also keep in mind. is mr puts in playing a slightly dangerous game here because on the one hand, some of the analysts, i've been talking to tonight a saying, the unimaginable a saying that he might even now start looking at countries like latvia and lithuania. he may start doing the thing that nato doesn't like, which is trying to intimidate other sovereign states by stationing his military on the border. on the other hand, we've got the economy is beginning to suffer. the rouble is going down and it's some people say it's all about mr. puts in trying to re make russia in his image, i. e as a new, a contemporary version of the old ussr. well, i think that mr. futon is smart enough to understand that yes, a soc cannot and should not be restored. but i think that he's very concerned about
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what he perceives as an existential challenge to the russian security of for him. you gain the join into a red line. moreover, nater deploying its infrastructure, the kenyan soil you with, without even without taking you pain into data is also a red line. so i think it's a very special case. i don't think that we can extrapolate to be said that you would, for instance, sell to baltic states. i think it would be an over exaggeration argued that a hotel might be late in the baltic states or any of the nato countries for this matter. but you can is special, i think on top of that, there is a strong pressure on the present to take an action. because the perception is that we have something like 700 solvent russian citizens living in this area in the, in jeopardy right now. we have to do whatever is needed to protect them. and i
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think that if you take opinion polls in the rush, at least you'll find out that most of rations would like to have these people defended e. and i think that in this sense, they would probably approve what a fortune is doing, even if they have to pay a certain price for that. ok, we'll leave it there and re cartoon off. many thanks for joining us from moscow. and joining me here in the studio is andrew goodman, co ambassador of ukraine to cat or mr. bassett. a welcome to the news. our thank you so much. what does it mean if russia recognizes these 2 succession as protected areas in eastern ukraine? well, if this will be the case, and it seems to me, this will be the case. it will be the unilateral withdrawal of russia from minsk agreements which were recognized by the world community
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as the effective tools of for coping with this undeclared war against ukraine. what will the government and kia do about it? well actually i would like to draw attention to the statement of my president one day ago, just humans and munich conference. it was the appeal for comprehensive, tough sanctions, which could stop aggressor from launch and full scale war. in fact, ukraine has threefold approach. the 1st is diplomatic. we are doing diplomacy with our friends, partners, and allies. second, this is the sanctions and the one what i, i would like to emphasize, this is the effective tool of carbon,
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the aggressor. and the thought they mentioned is a military. we are grateful for our friends and allies for supply of munitions of amendment to stop the possible aggression and the in principle, the euro atlantic membership of ukraine will prevent ukraine. will program the rolled from such situation in the future. okay, you mentioned there at the beginning of your answer sanctions yes. targeted heart hitting sanctions. going after specific individual's i mean, we've heard about it today. we've been broadcasting on our channel talking about individual members of the duma, the lower house of the russian parliament. your president has been talking about sanctions and diplomacy, basically a twin track approach for the best part of 3 weeks now. but one of your opposite numbers, the russian ambassador to stock home about 7 days ago, said, and i quote,
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sanctions, we don't give a expletive. yes. about sanctions. so if we put that together with the fact that russia very proudly claims it is immune, it is ignored to the financial impact of that sanctions can achieve. what sir. well, or the statement of my russian in re burst coma calliger from stockholm is another lie. or the russian propaganda since or russia is already deprived in a lot of critical components for making their sophisticated weapons, since they're not in a position to produce some micro cheap summer electronic systems. some merge critical details by themself. they are already deprived her from a some financial tools in the economy. and the if we will make it clear as it guys to meryl you will realize yourself just fenced
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absolutely from the rest of the world. and you will believe it by your own, without the possibility to do something they should think about as a sanction, it could be very simple. cut swift in bank and field prevent or impose the bond for entering the seaports. certain bonds for flights and the, the russian economy will failed. they will yield to met, told me not having the possibilities for financing big war. what do you do if, when diplomacy dies? and there's a scenario where it might, if geneva doesn't produce anything, realistically hopeful that might be the last chance saloon for international diplomacy to come up with a solution here. because everyone will,
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will again pass the off ramp at that point. yeah. yeah. what do you do if, as well as recognizing these 2 regions in easton ukraine, russia invade, not a fully fledged invasion, not were marching on kiev, but just goes in and surrounds the hands and do nets. and in effect, an axis, a massive chunk of your country to militarily. what do you do then? well, or in fact, we are ready even for that scenario. what do we know is the russians are quite correct. you fight to create causes barely. they may can false leg actions to accuse later on ukraine in shell, in the tech about their territory. but what do we see? it's kind of a trick as sinks the report. it's a place off where you clean and show the tech is 60 kilometers down from the ukraine in position. this is a fake. so we are prepared for any kind of scenario. ukrainian army is
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strong with the military experience, with the support of our friends and allies. we do have significant non for faster service interruptions, of which i apologize. being supported by them is great. you know, that being supported by the mass, that's presidents and prime ministers around the e u. this the u. s. president saying the right things that you need to hear. it's not helping you militarily. it may be bolstering you at some point in the future. but you're not going to see us soldiers on the ground. you're not going to see you soldiers on the ground. we do not expect someone will be fighting against us. we are ready to defend. this is our island. no one should die from europe for our land. this is it asked the ukrainian nation, that is wise, it's ross is at our site. and if for the situation we will be at
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such a scenario. but let's have the fingers crossed and the believe in diplomacy. well, we will the ready to defend our country if you'll president was to signal okay, we will put on the back burner. the idea of joining nato. we will delay that. we will prevaricates, we will come up with a different relationship and we will work on our relationship with moscow. is there any air in that, at all? the principle of neutrality. the note, membership in any allies was tried in ukrainian constitution for 30 years now. whether it helped us in the claim, the occupation was it helped us when the art of ukrainian donates can look on scurry. june the berg, your bite was it helped 14000 of ukrainians who died due to this war. know,
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the polls show that the level of support that was in nato membership is more than 65 percent. and they to membership for us is it's not just their slogan, the motto of propaganda. the fetish, if i major c, no. this is the borrow full, 2 of european unity. we are not seeking just to have the shield. we are a part of this shield. in fact, we 8 years fighting not to allow the aggressor to penetrate further, to take lot fear to take poland to take estonia. ukrainians are carbon. these aggression, you seem to be viewing, they're just still slightly granular. and if i'm doing that too much, forgive me. but you seem to be using language there,
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attaching language of conflict, language of war to the nato alliance. and primarily now, because this, there are so many decades when we, when the, when nato was formed, where nato is today, nato is not now a mechanism for military aggression. well, we, it might have to be if you're invaded after nato member, but you are not to nature member. now, do you know, well, could you tell me about one european country, which is a part of each wars occupation and the at that occupational part the absolutely, another administration was introduced. but despite of that, that country became a member of nato. monica, the 1st one, it was a germany. so ukraine is not seeking me. i am repeating, is not seeking some sin, which we ask in please give us. no. okay,
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we are ready to contribute. vladimir putin is, we suspect imminently about to recognise these 2 protected areas. succession is there is nice to ukraine. we've got national security meetings going on in paris. we got a national security council meeting going on in washington. we got the un security council coming together. yes. in new york, this is possibly one of the biggest diplomatic crises slash conflicts that we've had in perhaps a decade or so. maybe a generation maybe. what is your message to vladimir putin to day? or could have 2 messages. one for the world community, absolute. the 2nd for that dinner party for the world community dissertation we're facing now is the evidence off week and insufficient direction at the 1st aggressive acts of the pollutants,
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russia in georgia in trans nice area. and then ukraine showed the world. the community was stuff much more tougher these that days we will. we would never seen these situations. that is why we have to be decisive, strong and united. this is a message for europe. ian's, for letting me put him, mr. put him roja. troops. don't spend the money off rush and ben juniors for this military games and stuff, in fact, built toilets as a terror, 300 kilometers from moscow. they have al jazeera english in the kremlin. i know they do. maybe they were watching, mr. ambassador, thank you so much for talking to us, so we do appreciate your time. think of okay, let's take you live to moscow. we have a tape,
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feet of the russian president vladimir putin addressing the nation addressed is addressed to my compatriots. going upstairs and i will have to speak about the circumstances which is with details about a very serious question. the luckily situation in don bus is extremely critical, assures groman to day. but i appeal to you that they will please, rightly not just to speak about what is happening, but inform you about the direct decisions about the possible future steps you sure of which are. once again, i emphasize that ukraine is not just you and neighboring country, isn't the natal part of our common history culture much the way heritage these are are shared our close friends. yeah. comrades, colleagues, people we served together with them. these maybe grown connected to us by blood
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directly closely is them regularly us up and the citizens of the south east aust. gimme, call themselves russian and orthodox soon. that's the way again, that is the case. good. before the 17th system was of the century before unity with the russian federation russian states. and afterwards, we all know about this. hopefully we are speaking about commonly known, re, fax it to you, minute they were. and in order to understand this, never less what is happening to day to explain the motives of russians aims. there were music to, for, we need is a say, a few words about these questions at national and possibly so i will speak about all contemporary ukraine buzz set are created by russia by communists with pre much of soviet union. and in communist russia. this issue with knoxville and in 1917 room with communist russia. so i think you're really at the
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mishma group, but not sure you and yet this was done in a rather harsh way under lenin. you, jesse, you're focusing is putting away parts of its historical terran schrager, the 100 millions of people who live yet young there. nobody was asked anything. mooney was and yet to me before and after the great patriotic war associate with stalin and u. s. a. c, or anybody jeffrey boy short on some lands which previously belonged to poland and romania if we were convinced it. and as it was, form a for compensation. get a masters degree of ocean territory which show the shelter. the bro, what i see crew if doors opened, i knew i had been in germany and then tara, she, which came back, including the crimea. that was the soviets, just like yoga ukraine. we now i'd like to pay particular attention to the start of
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the ussr grandmother. i consider this is extremely important for us. some of the lesson is deluca. what we speak about from far away would be a lot of the following the month of the october 2 of 1917 and the civil war excited. louis, there was a construction of a new state where he could, the will upholstery. it was like mice. and there were some rather sharp disagreements in 1922 yet i know with starting as the general secretary, and i don't recommend set up with your own and the national, the people's, i'm commissar after museum setting up the principles of optimization. so there was a republic of the future ministration underline miss installers, m u legacy of a united states. and that's good to hello lennon, william white, you know, booking that somebody asked to make concessions. she's asians of independent and,
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and this lenin lucas idea of a federal state saving us in the summer. but in lieu of self determination, we followed him, was more like a schedule that was based on the new soviet we should use a date from god was in 1922. this was strengthened in the declaration of the assessor. and then falling lennon's death in the u. s. a saw in 1924 in years. the saw constitution mortgage. we have many questions that come about on the left. glo, at the most important thing project with blue, we is going why to we have not to have to satisfy any clue though. a nationalistic view, and visions of the former in middle, when they restrict you empire, i use that is normally, if we look at the union public club shinnecock or what machine you do, who are not connected to the territory, a tall. i'd like to reverse pete about historical russia to fantasies
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of these a mischief unit hadn't been the status and form of national formations that jim said the question might be viewing the key. why did we have to make such steps? why do you have to give such gifts which would could not be dreamed of in the past? and once again, i like to speak about a single a unitary stay. was she one young junior that cannot be understood, that is madness of his union yet. but there is an explanation with a glove following the revolution. the main task was to keep new power with any i did get the word by any means at any cost. when is he to lose lugubrious, go near? and this was the way of humiliation when you look at them. why in the situation with causes germany and the 1st world war
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and satisfying. if you look any demands of nationalists within the country. is it in your, from the point of view of the lending principles of construction were not as simple as that of the who it was a lot worse than a mistake world. following the collapse of the s a saw in 991. it became absolutely clear and you know, so we could certainly use me events in the past kind of be the change. but we must elisa speak about them directly. and honestly, just without any political or look at the store, but i am bigger change if we speak. if i speak about political commentary, concrete, remind me in speaking about specific moments of time you will circumstances. but that cannot be the basis of these principles of a state. you know,
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i'm not accusing anybody know the circumstances at that time and following this liberal war before were critical soon. if you could just come back today, what i want to say look, is that everything was like, that should be fun. that is a historical fact to just go as well as all the money said results of the policies . i you, as a result to which soviet ukraine came about on the e v. mary lee crane under of v miracle image, lenin, it's author an architect silicon report that is fully confirmed by archive document. but on the harsh lenny's nest documents show, this is just black out there. and now i don't you thank you. when you get to this, we have the memory of lenin as
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a thanks to our descendants with the companies that seem to be one to have d combination of both of us. no, it's not. but with you, we cannot stop half way. we're ready to show you the issue. what is real combination? i sure is because if i come back to the history of the question, if you took the west, it's from god in 1920 for us to put this in. the area of the former soviet union was founded. the usaa saw throughout the very life with her showed her groom straightaway despite the huge territory. i'm war and running it as it under the federal principles, was not possible it manage up on it yet. he st. what is that? he could be thought that was not relevant to the historical tradition and reality extensively that way. and it was out so quickly led to astonished take the tour. i take that to ship very quickly. run over nationalization plans system of the
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national economy foreign minds. the, in a formal way, according to the state principles of the state actually in the put up with, if we look at the union, they do not practical for the province center is on. there were so clearly centralized unitary system. they did not have the real federal independence, slightly, folks to lee good afternoon. starlen had his own ideas at construction. but because of these elements and it did not come into the constitution. so moving is given according to the principles express one by state is starlen. it was not looked at formally from because i was there with amenable in this i used was were the lead that under the conditions of intel sanitary regime cross, everything was severe immigration, but it was under pressure of it became
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a project over above what was democratic it's a great easy shame, a very legal principles of listing that they would not considered at the time. you are in an authentic little way to live, but absolutely destructive abolition, adjustable but tension in the future. you but nobody thought about this about the future media come back to william, the leader of the communist party roach, was convinced that we needed a steadfastly system and checked a lady. surely in order to decide the national question gassy. but when the pacification gets up, she's manipulation of public understanding and deception. but it's dear. these ambition, as always from the dogs, is that when the, when you get from the immunity against nationalists and when you make so
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i repeat that led to the ending of the s a saw me, you know, when you're on the basis of the breaking down of the social economic problems of the crisis. national problem. whether when know in the spec taishan or growing in leaps, i'm not going to go with him yet. the leader of the b su commerce party. so the union was carried out adequate meshes, including the garage, li, thinking about the transformation of these construction limiting i was from abilene high school principal from the lenin's principal national principal. in the same way. if we look at the very, within the very commonest party, i city of the broadening we encouraging
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nationalism is william, but i'm selling stuff. going to come with the potential supporters. when you buy here, you probably ski boat, the width, or your populace mom, bullish him ideas and thinking about a light bright future with william. but under any leap at the new conditions of a boot, as was your total deficit, which no one in the government thought about the inevitable tragedies for the country as a team of horses. that only does any of the necessary narrow strip would really funny and, and then there was a satisfaction bush look through with the, in the late setting up it so you own rocha ideas. so in the c p. s. you for me. thank god, i see there were no stanley instruments such instruments and the country it got you used to let a please let her go. yes. sure. if we look at the leading role of the party that she se, brianna will nicholas wet disappeared under their very eyes with them in 19189
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at c p. s unit meeting. a document that came about on my new political party about the national women. what contemporary conditions alysia bishop, larry and the following position came about. so you've made public on the use of your power. i think she, oh, she is that all right, responding to that status of a socialist date and another point 6, they legally, the former representatives of the bodies, property power, you can protest and stop that is really actions of the decisions of the soviet government deliverance and finally, every union republic lance has its citizenship last year, which is spread throughout it. citizenship nibbler able scot white glove may have clear with these decisions. this will be this formation. now is not the time to ask these questions and why we need to speak about the very understanding and the
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questions that come up. why without such difficult conditions, can country could be broken up even more days. but those facts remain fact that as well as if we speak about the collapse of yes, a saw at the us or you go from the radicals nationalists above all, including in ukraine. we declare that in the pendants, humans, but i mean, really steady. just you probably did, you were looking at the strategic thinks that were made over under cps. you different timing of construction, economic and national politics. is that the collapse of historical russia with the name of justice ah, might be anticipated by the russia. you know, people are people is what i mean earlier. but next it was a came about know,
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following the collapse, the a saw many independent countries and not only recognized of russia pellegrini was in the most difficult position with a setting up of the c. s a young comment of come up in penn state. so what when they get, she says at darted severely to make concessions on numerous questions for was really you support respect for the dignity of the sovereignty of this countries. according to these experts in the appraisal of these experts, albumin goodness can neither for the volume. i wrote the credit of trade of energy, great auction, we get the given whichever the deal for the, for you with, for the most of europe would be from there in that they would have a look at the book. foot stimuli was around 250000000000 not to ukraine from 1991 to around 2003 the way i did that this was
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a long term obligations commitment. some of the ussr so solidified at this time, i think a feminine of around $100000000000.00 every political issue, a ticket. and these with russia credit is when we come back into the forces of the saw with what's on solidarity in economy. proportionally. phillip potential, however, civil sales, russia took back to him all the previous soviet that your debt is really the process with you at least seamless. and this could process continue to me. they ended in 2017 because after 3 your jesse, they should, they should have at least 2. she said less return down the situation with in $191994.00 ended have not their claim to. so the archives, like any of that can later is pony. it just refused to turn down what was up was
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looking at things like diamond funds property, some of the former ussr abroad, his mother, and never left. despite all these problems, russia has always cooperated with strongly, honestly, with ukraine as ah, as a couple of links in various fields because you against them got in 2011 apiece yet . really out of the thick of us $50000000000.00 range from me working together with all countries waste. and she'll do the your opinion before the pandemic proposal. that will grace give less. i'd like to say that the ukranian were with machine authorities super widely. we have all rights, all we get you advances me. is that but your full instead of you on your partnership? this that i mean, if it's only why fi, be careful. authorities are working in a completely unceremonious,
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uncooperative way. as it, sir, king of energy that we're still, i would like to add with the little boys windowworks that i see i've looked at for those in dallas that are local with russia is like an excuse for the interference of the west. human fuji would interest you or he's gillian, look, and talking about the russian inference in ukraine. hydrate up which are. but i'd like settle emphasize with the very 1st steps the say needs he was they denied everything that unites us. that brings us together when it middle of the memory of millions of people, new regions, which is not still surprising that ukrainian society will formal, ugly stephen that was a, for the new, has a, an aggressive russia phobia. not on the list of the nuances of obamacare. i used of matthew adam goswick, roaches, jesse did, he only been busy christ,
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the territorial claims of russia, or even if you and the one with your foreign lonely city and thought forces were actually looking for locally who people bringing them to the lovely their clients into macintosh from the government. you can you put you with this way? wouldn't in the pay it, but never can i assist you with, with vin hospital from 1991 shy to look at foreign models, which she goes against history. really, could you speak with the political, historical, woodall class, very metal was on a particularly new carissa formed in the owner of selfish interests, which have no common interest. go back without any lots of common sense directly with the coach of that is a blue shirts, and you've been with us that not as set up the best conditions for prosperity with
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what bus for us, marcus, we will get your will. each team said the only place you sing russia as.

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