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abundant rainfall that strong wings, lack of humidity and drought. i'm making it easy for a fires like this one to spread. this is an area where there's also a leaf, 12000 square kilometers of wetlands of marshlands. when a wild animal among them came and among others over $300.00 species of birds, we have spoken to our several a merman sold groups and they are currently concerned. they're trying to rescue several of those animals of wild animals and try to save them from this fire. this is having a huge our environmental impact, but also an economic impact in this country, especially also in the province of korea and. and that's why people here are desperate for rainfall. ah, it is good to every willis. hello adrian, that are going here and are all the headlines on al jazeera. the u. s. has imposed new sanctions on russia, cutting 2 key financial institutions off from western financing. the move comes
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a day after president vladimir putin recognized the independence of 2 separatist held it areas of eastern ukraine. he setting up a rationale to take more territory by force in my view. and if we listen to a speech last night, and many of you did, i know he's a, he's setting up a rationale to go much further. this is the beginning of a russian invasion of ukraine, as he indicated and asked permission to be able to do from his duma. so let began to our so our i'm going to began to impose sanctions or response. far beyond the steps we and our allies and partners implemented in 2014 and it, russia goes further with this invasion. we stand prepared to go further. as with sanctions, you are secretary of state antony blinkin says the brother may have pu sins, real views on ukraine, on our clef. he calls them disturbing and says that he's cancelled a meeting with his washing counterpart. so gay lover of that was scheduled to take
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place later this week. president putin's deeply disturbing speech yesterday. and his statements to day may clear the world how he views ukraine. not as a sovereign nation with the right to territorial integrity and independence. but rather as a creation of russia and therefore subordinate to russia, it's a completely false assertion that ignores history international law and the 10s of millions of patriotic ukrainians who are proud citizens of a free and independent ukraine. and the un secretary general ontario garage has appealed for restraint. reason, a d escalation, he said military conflict between russia and ukraine would be catastrophic. with those the headlines on al jazeera, the use continues here after today's edition of inside story, coming up next. ah,
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russia deployed troops to east in ukraine after recognizing the independence of breakaway territories. lavine approved in also questioning ukraine statehood. is it a prelude to a wider arm conflict? what impact western sanctions have? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the show. i'm sam is a, than russian president vladimir putin as sent troops into ukraine that came after
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he recognized the independence of 2 self declared republics in breakaway regions. in western countries of accused moscow of taking a step towards a full blown invasion, began the process of imposing sanctions. putin questioned ukraine's right to sovereignty and said, russian troops will be there for peacekeeping purposes. shadonia cranium burnett. when i consider it necessary to make a long overdue decision to immediately recognize the independence and sovereignty of the done, that's people's republic and de la, hans people's republic. i asked the federal assembly of the russian federation to support this decision and then to ratify the treaty of friendship and mutual assistance with both republics. most of it is also essential to understand that ukraine has never had a tradition for genuine statehood. and since 1991, it has taken the path of mechanical copying of foreign models torn off both from history and from ukrainian realities. a political and state institutions were
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constantly reshaped to sit. the rapidly formed clans with their selfish interest that had nothing to do with the interests of the people of ukraine. the whole point of the so called pro western centralized choice of ukraine's oligarch power was and is not to create the well being of the people. but you obsequious, they provide services to russians. geopolitical rivals were saving billions of dollars stolen from ukrainians and hidden by oligarchs in a western bank account. and right after the announcement, the western world began reacting us. president joe biden made a statement through twitter saying, i have signed an executive order to deny rush of the chance to profit from its place and violations of international law. we are continuing to closely consult with allies and partners, including ukraine on next steps. below the western leaders also want to turn against annexation after his announcement. it is an ex ation. it will be sanctioned
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any of the reach of recognition. i will put the sanction on the table and the ministers will decide keep in mind, which is the process of sanctions. according with the treaty sanctions of being approved by the frank, the 1st minister can show like unanimity. this is plainly in breach of international law. it's a violation of flagrant violation of the sovereignty, the integrity of the, of ukraine. ah, it is a repudiation of the of the minks process in the mix agreements. and i think it's a very ill omen and a very doc sign. and it certainly does not seem to me that it's, it's certainly an indication yet another indication that things are moving in the
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wrong direction in ukraine or the u. k. will continue to do everything we can to stand by the people of, of ukraine with a very robust package of sanctions. as you know, what i can tell you, i and reiterate our position which that the united nations fully supports the independent sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine, within its internationally recognized borders as stated very clearly in a relevant general assembly resolutions. and again, we would encourage everyone involved a, to refrain from many unilateral decision or unilateral action, so that could undermine the territorial integrity of ukraine. and the implementation of the minsk agreements i think is endorsed by security council. and with regards to the status of don, it's andrew hans ah,
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let's bring our guests into the show. now we have joining us from moscow and russia . pavel foger, how he's a defense and military analyst with no via get better in brussels. theresa fallon is director of the center for russia, europe, asia studies, and in kev peters, my f. he's executive director the eurasia democracy initiative. welcome to will. let me start then with peter. is this a prelude to a wider invasion? what's the view from kiev? while it seems that via report has prepared the ground, said that with his decision to recognize these so called the peoples republic along the nets. and the essentially unilateral abrogation of the misc agreement, she have untied his hands. the, you know, the puppet states now are claiming that they want to to have the rest of the
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territory, which is still under ukrainian control. and that is like 2 thirds still occupied by putting henchmen. that means, you know, russia through its public states has much further into ukraine's territory to go and let him. and if not planning to do that, he's definitely made it very possible for himself in the next 2 days to try to re conquered that rhetoric and still retain plausible as few things to deny that he is involved. like what he did with crye b and the so called green man. this would be a sort of help of the dairy kind of brotherly assistance to the brotherly status of the next few could even try to invoke other nations from the former soviet republics, to a members of the collective security treaty organization. to make it look like an
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international piece action by continuing to claim that russia, ukraine, is the one that has been attacking the don boss. this is interesting. you mentioned that the green men, pavel in moscow, russia has long been accused of having its soldiers in done yet. and lou ganske, the so called little of the so called green men, you know that without official insignia. does it make a huge difference now that russia is recognizing and officially announcing that it's putting troops there? oh yes, i mean, the 1st time the green man appeared that was in crimea, because 1st russia was saying that the user woke or be bull kind of. now rebelling against the government or the non government and key f, then worse if we're say, the fishery that these are russian troops and russia has never up to now acknowledged that they are a russian service man. in the done boss though,
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there were said that these are may be volunteers who took her a recess from active service and went there as volunteers. but now we have a thought to a different situation. this would be russian officials or soldiers, though the last reports coming or in moscow are that rush will not right now. move its troops into bennett school ganske though there are the reports that, that there has doing it. but anyways, if the frightening on the line of control continues even small skirmishes, and if it gets and were the russian forces get involved, actually wiggly. and if there's going to be room boards and the russians, they, the t. v about rush young russian soldiers being killed by or wounded by ukrainians . that's already approved for a direct a cranium. russian war that can asco 8 into a know our rush,
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ukrainian war which conferred the actual escalate into new european war. and so it's a very slippery slope we are right now on. and of course, her teacher has also said yesterday that ukraine will become later member with no matter what the western powers right now say, and the else. and so that so, so kind of mean and factions will be imposed there anyway. so he was actually digging his he is in and saying that rash will take action. and now it's clear that how it might happen, though, of course, may be that's not happening now. and right. and there's going to be the fire again, imposed in the done bus. but we'll have to see what's happening in the next several days. i wonder if we're already getting a hint of what you are talking about. let me take this point to teresa. was it telling when we heard the russian president was that any further regression as he put it from kiev, will cause bloodshed, bloodshed,
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which kiev will be responsible for, is that perhaps an indication of the sort of scenario hovel was just talking about . russian casualties could lead to a bigger, you know, wider invasion. this is a very serious situation that we're in the speech yesterday by president. pretend the 65 minute long diatribe has been many hours have said it's a declaration of war. and so we've seen the, the bite in administration trying to identify these falls like activities for the last few days. and it seemed that put in just decided to go ahead with this, even though that the idea of 5 ukrainian soldiers passing into russia. most people had said that that was a false flag and an excuse for russia to take these actions. so i think that they are trying to frame it. they're preparing the russian public for possible war, possible people coming home in body bags. and as we know that as the evacuate women and children from the region,
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the men are staying as they're expected to fight. so i think that with 190000 troops surrounding ukraine, i think that it might be more than just declaring the hands and don't ask you know, sovereign and the other thing that's a bit unclear right now is that how much of that area is it just what's occupied now by russian proxies or will it be the entire region? and so i think that the kremlin is almost deliberately keeping that unclear because at this point, no one really knows. that's the big question mark over everyone. and that will have an effect on the type of sanctions that both the europeans are willing to impose. and it's interesting to note that just short as your presentation noted, the u. k which is now breaks a bit from the rest of europe, is trying to lead the charge here. and they've already announced sanctions, but the 1st set of sanctions on 5 banks and 3 russian entity people.
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so i think that they're trying to lead the charge and the europeans may be a bit divided on this. but we've also seen a clear message from german chancellor shows that north through 2 will be suspended the rush gas pipeline to germany. all right. there's a lot for us to pick up, especially when it comes on sanctions. but before we go down there, i want to ask peter and give peter i can see your angling to get in. let me allow you to get in with a comment for i pose a question to you and i just wanted to say, you know, as far as the, the sanctions, i mean we will, we'll talk more in depth about it. i did want to mention that it's very notable the german chancellor finally, who up till now was reluctant to even need allude to norton to buy by name. finally put his foot where his mouth was stated on the bigger sleeve. no stream to has been holding. this is very important. odd. this is
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a troubling developing for vitamin wooden europe. if you decide to act as a unified gonna question front against vitamin wouldn't, it's going to make it much more complicated. it's a sort of game of chicken that like, wouldn't, is it involved in aware the both sides. i tried to see who's worked 1st as they're careening down the highway towards each other. alright. take them this point to puzzle and in moscow. put and could have done this step a long time ago, months ago, perhaps even years ago. is this really part of a careful strategy on the part of the russian president to slowly turn the heat up on the west? because he's, his goal is to get his demands, match more than getting himself enrolled in a wider invasion of ukraine. what do you think puzzle? well, it's not true. it's slow. the events began happening last december and they are
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developing very swiftly towards pos world war. actually is an issue in then if we take what happened with crimea, that was quite quick when, when putin decides he wants to go in and take it heritage, you know, people literally woke up and their rush was, that wasn't this month's of a stand often demands and meetings in negotiations and back and forth was the lemming. because right now we're in a golf course in a different situation than then and the road, the russia. why right now russia has put the demand so drastically for oil and that, and is, and kind of demand the that to give us worthwhile waste. but one door will take it by force. again, that's not totally clear why right now puts and believes that he so is so emboldened or he doesn't have the young, quizzical support of the russian population. the people were scared of
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a possible war. he doesn't even have be unequivocal support of the entire russian a week and a half years. actually, people in the kremlin and his administration fully many have apprehensions on watch right now happening. but the boundary right outwards and believes that he is in the position to put demands that way better because of these new hypersonic weapons that russia has been developing. and he believes that that gives russia the upper hand. and that russia now is militarily stronger for the time being and should really use this opportunity at to push the west and united states away from its borders. secure a kind of buffers, a big buffer zone between itself and the west and nato. again, i, we don't know for sure, but that looks like that. all right, let me bring theresa in to reason. given that does diplomacy still have a chance?
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and we, we always must try for diplomacy. but we've seen this diplomats and we're leaders beating a path to the kremlin store and pretty much nothing was happening. i mean even well as of the u. k said he had to, with of munich about it because there is never any de escalation that was kind of what was needed for continue dialogue. so the russians pretended to de escalate well, continuing to escalate and having all of these discussions. we saw president chrome pretty much humiliated because after 5 hours of discussions we put in put in said it was a form of torture. having to talk to a chrome for so long as they are very present here. course the russian narrative on this and they would say that's because the west has been wasting time in these negotiations and not observing as they see it rushes, security demands and concerns and not addressing them well, they had the meeting at nato, which was the 1st time in 2 years of
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a mess at that level, and i think the way that put in submitted his demands was not a way of having dialogue. he said this is what we want. we want this to be a treaty. so there was no discussion really, there was no dialogue, it was like take it or leave it. and i think that there were some off rooms offered to put in, for example, discussions, untruth placement, missile placement, and possibly, you know, nuclear weapons discussions once again to, to reanimate those discussions. so i think that they did try to offer them off ramps, but put in, it has not accepted that at all. and i think that instead of getting less nito, the cremeans getting more neo, we're seeing a sweden and finland watching this very closely. and as we know, they are neutral countries, but maybe if you're not a member of nato, this is what will happen to you. all right, let me bring in once again peter,
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the message from give, has been very clear in the last few days that they wanted stronger sanctions and they wanted them. now. what do you think the analysis will be in care of, of the sanctions which have been, impose so far away enough? well, once again, i think the signal from germany is kind of expected because germany, germany has been considered the, the odd man out as far as that we're comp coordinated western policy. putting has been banking on the support of germany as the coastline touch. there's those on tried to understand and sympathize with russia. so once again, this is probably the hospital when a monkey wrench into let him are putting his calculations as far as jo, biden's and now sanctions against the state. let's. well, this is part of the strategy to still use them as potential, you know, for potential kind of a leverage with russians be, understand that, you know, they don't even reach the level of symbolism that is required. i mean, these republics already isolated quality entities. they don't trade with any one of
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these sanctions don't go far. they don't bite. there is an understandable kind of upset that ukraine has a feeling of it, but it ain't over till it's over and bide. never announced that more sanctions are to come. so ukrainians are waiting to see, but let me just return to the point the earlier about nato expansion. i just cannot avoid commenting on it once again, just to make it clear. the nato expansion has been a red herring. let me put the call along. i don't think he's concerned with ukraine joining nato. he knows it's not going to happen anytime. so what he's concerned about is trying to recreate a former soviet union in a different shape or form. he considers the loss of ukraine a personal tragedy. she wants to ukraine to follow the kind of the trajectory of bella rules next door. bella says it's essentially over the last year, become a protectorate of russia and military education. and that's exactly what the
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witness trying to achieve in great. he wants to dominate it and he made it clear last, actually, yesterday, in his speech, she does not even recognize you quite as legitimate state. he said earliest 20 years ago in his meeting with a george w bush's a. george ukraine ain't even a country. and we're seeing 20 years later, we seeing a very direct kind of up north for us out of picking caught when it comes to go that i want to bring in once again. puzzle puzzled. the sanctions are still coming in. take us through what we know about them so far. what sanctions are in place and what sort of impact do you think moscow wolf will deem them to have? well, i see from moscow leads to the sanctions already announced. sure. the recognition of the sovereign was done by state what's rather mild, the russia stock exchange rebounds, when they were announced, especially that need there are big rush and banks break off of banks, bare bank,
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but can burbank are not included. and there are fears that they will be good immediately. so the and of course, personal or pin point sanctions or not, or rushes used to them more or less. so these are not yet married, that serious sanctions at all on the a former president than now food. since they're in the security council meeting with the se, ah, they're going to fred, they're going to go yo and then they're going to come to us and negotiate. so we just have to say it out. at the same as after we invaded ga, ga, and they recognized the sovereignty of a seizure and a closet. all. so right now i don't think that the noun sanctions are very much a kind of serious, considered as a serious deterrent. all right,
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there will be 2 art theresa talking about putin latest speech. is it something of a turning point up until now we were hearing the message from pooh 10. am from the foreign minister that hey, we don't want to invade. there is no invasion. this is all hysteria. and in the latest speech it sounded like futon was questioning the very rights of ukraine to exist as an independent country. yes, i think it is extremely, we're in this message we're not seeing holding as un states sovereignty issues are being, he's not invading because it's not a southern country that's his narrative and that many historians, for example, tim site or a b l university says that this is fantasy from a 1000 years ago. fairytale, so the fact that he is pretending it is not a country and therefore can be absorbed by russ size, i think is an extremely we're in narrative. and this is to kind of prep the russian population about this. and kind of re absorbing their cousins, but i think that's really what many analysts have stated that they will,
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that they will want to have regime change. they just need a leadership that will be more pro, rasa again, if you permit me to raise or present the perspective, you know, on the other side, would argue that this is exactly what all will pals have done, including the u. s. with countries like cuba in their backyard that they want those phase of influences. well, of course they're, it's hard to tell people on 2022. you can only be a buffer state, and that's what russia once they want, you claim to be one giant buffer states. and i think that it is clear that there will be no boots put on the ground by any western power in, in, in ukraine. that is being made absolutely clear, and i think that's put in has made his calculations, then they have proof, you know, whether prove themselves for the last 7 years with fortress russia. this idea of becoming less dependent on the west. having other financial instruments. they only
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use 16 percent of their exchanges are in dollars now. so that's a big decline from 40 percent several years ago. so i think that they have been working and preparing on this. and let's not forget the big difference between now and what happens in crimea back in 2014, is that they have the teeth that support of beijing. we saw him go to beijing, right, sign this agreement with president she and so they have this understanding and i went from beijing or i'm afraid we are running out of time. we're going to have to leave it there. it's been a great discussion. let's thank our guests. have all 4 been how to raise a fallon and peter's on my i have and thank you to for want to you can see the show again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion head over to my facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle, there is
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