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a break through. the mayor of mario pole is reporting mass casualties. afterward, he describes as 15 hours of bombardment by russian forces who are surrounding the eastern city. official say water has been cut off and food is running out in northern ukraine firefighters is trying to put out a large fire, add an oil depot, hit by rush and shelling. there are reports that dozens have been killed and she n, his ukraine's capital kia has been shaken by for large explosions overnight. a rocket landed near the capitals southern railway station. ukrainian railway service says thousands of civilians were inside the station at the time of the strike, despite rush intensifying and bombardment of urban areas, foreign minister, so guy, lab, av says he has no doubt that a solution will be found. i used to go to church graham against luncheon book though you of course it's bad when people are dying, the soldiers and civilians,

as it's been happening in a don bass for 8 years, we will find a solution. i am totally convinced the minimum requirements are well known and they were expressed in the last round of talks with the ukrainians. the ukranian side had some reason to postpone those negotiations. clearly they are being ruled by washington. we cannot expect russia to allow any danger from the territory of ukraine. the russian billionaire roman abramoff, which is confirmed. he'll sell english football club, chelsea of the 19 years of ownership. he also promised to donate money from the sale to help victims of ukraine's war around the red shoes reported to have links with vladimir putin has not been named on the u. k. sanctions list. but his concerns about a potential seizure of assets is understood to have sparked his moved to sell. chelsea was headlines one use on on there. right after the stream. phoenix time by our reporters retreat in a brutal civil war. if a commodore hadn't been there,

the israeli invasion would not have been so well. the commodore had become journalistic center. you could be in the safe enclave and then you went out into civil war. i started off leaving this of a grand suite at the commodore hotel. the next room i was in was underground in a tiny prison, so as a hostage, a route the commodore war hotels on al jazeera. i i am josh rushing and you're in the stream to day writing a new national constitution for the people at chilly qualities here. said than done a right now, official debates are what you go into that constitution have begun. so we'll look at the process and we'll look at what issues are at stake. we're chileans. ah, i looked to understand how chill it got to this point. let's go back to 2019, when

a subway fair increased sparked massive protest over inequality and a leader of them in the country and many to lay hands blame the constitution enacted under the dictatorship of augusta pinochet's for what they saw as excessive social inequality so in 2020, the process for a constitutional rewrite was approved in a national referendum. now with us today, to talk about these issues, actually, you know what, i'm going to ask them to introduce themselves, valentino, we begin with you al cortes, i m m m. i and i, my journalist or something like an independent media here in tina, and i'm actually on the ground here and somebody. oh, great on the ground. so you give us live updates and maria. hi, just i'm maria. could i camara? i'm a lawyer on my program who program officer in te lafleur id to national and we are supporting the work of the constitutional convention. thanks moran. you're joining us from santiago and patricia. yeah, my name is felicia now. yeah, i'm

a professor of people who studies here at me, you're interested in both such lam and a regular teaching sheila as well when we were just you know, the whole purpose. hey guys, let me introduce one more seat at the table that you, cuz if you're watching this right now, means you're watching live on youtube. so see that box over there. we have a live stream producer there right now, waiting to get your comments to me. so i can make them a part of this discussion. so why don't we do this thing together, right? all right, speaking a, doing the same. let's begin with valentina. can you update us what, what's happening there today? well actually today they are presenting a new form, but just the system for forum there. i think of the important because they already boat at some of the northern, one of some of them were a pass for the next step. another one, i had to go back, you about commission, just the system commission. so we can get we checked and then we sent them again.

if they are approved, they're going to go to the next page. that is the like, check your books where they're going to go article by article to book them. and if it gets that and it's not going to be and the proposal of new cost, if you can, this is happening with this and just the system commission that is $1.00 of the 7 commission that are checking all the information and proposing new articles and norms or is the kitchen, you know, i wanna go to my computer just for a 2nd here cuz i want to show the audience. one of the cool things about this is this plenary sessions. they're happening live on twitter. so people can actually go on twitter, don't go no, go after the show, but you can watch what's going on and what's happening. maria, talk to me for a 2nd. what. what does it mean for a nation to say, why don't we reconsider the entire constitution? well, it's not you say, as you were saying before, it sounds great and it is a really interesting process. but of course it's very,

very difficult and talented poor for us. also, we have 144, very different people who are writing this constitution, who have to lean a, everything by 2 thirds of them. and we have a particular piece that most of these people, more than 65 percent of them have never been in public office before. and most of them come from independent move lens, it or social movement or attribute for example is so is also very challenging for writing a new constitution. and we have also like to know the piece is to say that we have a piece for indigenous people in that country where we are a, one of the 2 countries in all looks in america that we don't recognize. or if people's it on our constitution or articles to show so that it's a novelty for the process, but also the and we have

a dinner party piece at their constitutional convention. so it's a very talented process, but it's also like any process that has a different people speaking in this casting, i'm agreeing on having a lot of consensus. it's also a very difficult and if you have to you, you need to process a lot of information. so before we get to the difficulties i want to, i want to kinda highlight how many people are involved and how the process is actually trying to involve a lot of people there in july. so i'm going to bring in a sound by now, this is from maria, lisa can terrorist and she is the constitution the she's the president of the convention here. let's check this out. symphony said the, this is unprecedented. and to lay in politics where there is no popular initiative law. for example, we have seen that many people are interested even though we have

a gap in internet access. and we also have problems of digital literacy in the country. we know this and we know that it is a limitation. however, more than 2000000 people have participated, have entered the platform and have sponsored initiative in said neither the patricia what caught my ear. there was, she said, more than 2000000 people have participated in this process. that sounds like what good governance like, sounds like good, good citizens at work. what. what do you, what do you say to that? well, because it is just a bit more complicated and the problem with this consideration in particular with the process in particular, is that if the real problem into working equality, which some extent it is one of the most on ego quite countries given its level of development in the world, the experiencing lacking them are all previous constitutions that have been written in latin america. the world record of writing constitutions haven't driven reducing

equality anywhere else. so people are concerned about inequality. that's a good concern, come to shouldn't be an equal, but we're taking a road to solving equality. we're taking a process to solve the, the quality, but haven't really worked anywhere else. so actually since many of the people will end up being disappointed because they are actively participating, they have high hopes that the constitution will solve less problems. but given that the most important problem is in equality and the, experiencing that number you get has been that new constitutions don't reduce inequality or in for a big disappointment in the years to come. well, i think there's something very interesting that people are going to be disappointed, but i think there might be people that are all ready to point to that process happening. gone, as they would like to people want, it's like for them to sit down and start writing the constitution right away. it doesn't work that way and i think it has it in. it may be trouble, or the con,

there convention has been trouble to explain people that you can just sit and do it . you have to have all, you have to have commissions organize it in a and a very good way. and i think maybe that hasn't been communicating well. so i would probably say that people are disappointed. they're all, they're also people said that they're going to be the deck of the project no matter what the ball if. so i think that the conventional, the members of the assembly have to put an eye on that because that people are scared, people are not happy. and maybe the, there will be a disappoint, or that will want it to be back to you all. or when it's already written, i me can't imagine a constitutional now come here where people aren't disappointed in is that even the goal? and in speaking the goal, like we talked about the in quality, there's a lot more at stake here, maria, than just economic issues, right? what's on the table? yes, of course we have miss tri crisis with if we're going to show that it's really,

really, very worrying. so of course there's also hearing fake. how can you read the fine? if you can have that, how can you read the sign your institution in a way that they are more coherent or they are more accountable or people come participate more in it? publications. and i think that's also all stake here. i think that there's a inequality in social economic perspective, but also in the access to power workshop when the exercise power. and i think that they are also conversations here that people agree that need to be take. but the pe, the details of how need to be paid. it is what is very challenging. for example, this and tele station, i think of those are very big agreement about in mor this until you say shawn about gender clarity, about more representation on participation of in the just people. but how are we going to do that? that is a very talented issue, it underscored,

but they feel it was saying the constitution is not only the solution for you know, quality you have them to implement this new constitution on what is going to happen in that transition period. it between the current constitution i'm the new constitution is approved by people a, but i think that the process sometimes can be more important or as important as the content of the new constitution. and as you said, there's a lot of more participation in from c to sounds that we used to have here in to, you know, talking about these reforms. i wanna bring in another voice. this is nicholas d as he's an analyst for latin american caribbean in washington. dc here, check out what he says about the although these reforms do lead to more inclusive society, they also do raise the prospect of making chiles business environment less

attractive, which is posing risks to the country's growth potential. patricia, so he's talking about business concerns. one of the big issues when these come about people's happened in latin america is often about privatization of natural resources. can you touch on on where that is in the debate down there and what the significance of of that is? yeah, i mean if we want to reduce inequality, there has to be economic development, right? you cannot be equally poor that's, that's not the idea. we want to be equally wealthy. so economic development is central. and one of the things the constitutional convention is doing is calling into question markets friendly, economic model that sheila has had in place. some reforms are going to need it. you need to introduce more protection for the environment. you need to introduce higher taxes so that companies can contribute more to the country, and particularly those companies that exploit minerals. but the problem of the constitutional convention is that most of the people in the constitutional

convention don't understand how businesses work and they really are not really paying attention to what the experts are telling them. so the problem is that they say, well, we don't like the killer existed before, so we're going to create a whole new chile and we're not going to even look at the previous constitutional history of de la to learn from the car. we're going to start from a blank sheet of paper and that's really and white. if you're going to write a new constitution, you should learn from what has worked in the country and from what has worked elsewhere. and you should put the things that work in the constitution and don't get too creative. we things that haven't worked anywhere else, or things that have actually produced really bad results everywhere else. and i think the constitutional convention is ignoring the comparative evidence from other countries. and it's implementing things that really haven't worked anywhere. i think that i still have laid bare because at the up the assembly,

the members of the assembly are very worried about what people want and people want . the majority of people, of course, there's people, there is not they want to erase every little bit of the heritage of the dictatorship. so all of our, of our business model right now, if i'm a hair of this, so they say they say we have to race it and 3 different models to do with it. but it might not work with us, but be sure that, and also the economic model commission doesn't have much venture members or more, right? it member centers, it's all like really, really left wing members, so they want to do like, really big chain dest. ah, and like reform, everything that we have, and that's because the political blog and the social movement couldn't agree to get the members that could be more expensive all right, way during the commission. so that's really interesting because it also their fault . they decided not to put people on this commission that kid like beverage a little bit, the things that were discussing you know,

i thought it was interesting the process and it's, if you have what, 3 fifths of, of the people agree, but not 2 thirds, then it's going to go back to the people for a vote and i thought, well, okay, so if less than 3 5th, they don't agree on it. that makes sense. it's an easy no, and of more than 2 3rd degree on it. it's an easy yes. so it really takes us more contentious issues and put them back to the people. how was that process working so far? we just, we weren't like that now because that was a proposed ton of the constitutional convention, but it has to be approved by the congress. most probably the congress that it will start on march 11 will have the goals for approving. so they are agreeing most of the issues for to her this is that, but that's also the thing with for example, they need

a piece of people. there were 2 initiative, it was a for a reproductive on sexual rights of women on the other that you'd like to live, you can face so they were opposing each other and both have their number of signatures of people promoting them. so the convention has to discuss these, and recently they have who is sexual. i'm work with are 2 bright. it's not something that it's yet approved by the pin i read so it can chase. but then you have like 2 different movements or 2 different proposals from the 2 sense that one of them is going to be reject bicycles to, to silicon base. and so because you're going to have people that there's not really stuck with its results in, but also i want to put like a cautious alarm warming that many of the c, c, r a are initially being discussed. so

a lot of issues that's kind of where we people, for example, the economy, coal issues, if they are being discussed, they are being proposed. but they are not get decided. there are being some alerts by a public opinion or experts about some issues. for example, if we a legal team with indigenous people or for example, we've eliminated this and i the senate on having only one number, they have be rethinking these issues. so although there's not much time for the call to, to, to a patient to write this proposal, if there is a lot of things that are going to happen the next month. so i think that we should also be cautious about saying some things that we still don't know how they're going to. so you mentioned march 11th. that's the new administration coming in, and course delays elected a very young left as president gabriel burridge. how will that influence or change

those? where is he on this issue, valentino? well, he shouldn't, it, shouldn't it went to the work of the convention because it, it's friend. different ours with the clear and part of how government where, how the paperwork. so he came to the convention he reunited with the president and the vice president, and he had a really nice chat. but he said he had a compromise with my employer. i think they how the process one and that he and his government will give all the resources and all the help that was possible. but he was going to look for it. look at, look at it from outside and not intervening. anything that the convention owner, we got a couple comments from the youtube audience right now. camilla munoz says, what's the outcome that the panel sees after the new constitution is presented and not tavia studio. it looks like in the face of the world. crises were facing as humanity. do you believe that all country should enter into a constituent process?

as chile has patricia, you want to respond to the writing and constitutions like building a new house. right. and the problem is a pretty embody sheila is coming in. he's coming in before the new house is being fully built time he has to govern and he has to live in the house. and that's going to generate providence normally, constitutions that we can after the president comes into office and not in the middle of a transition from one government to the next. and the other problem with building a house is that you cannot make everyone happy. and i think the problem with the constitutional convention is that it's trying to make a lot of different people happy. so they are bringing medic around the mexican style mother. traditional is the styles in the constitution and they're trying to put it on so that look like way too many things. and that house is not going to stem complications would ideally be minimal. this ambition will probably be one of the longest constitutions in the world, because they are putting lots of things into the constitution. that's never

a good idea. in building constitutions is better than having way too many things. and the constitution will end up looking like a christmas trees, like a christmas tree with preference for everyone, with social rights for everyone. and then the country will just not have enough money to fund. although so chevron murray, did you hear me? yes. inferior from florida work. but it will say, i also think that you have, you need more minimally constitution than a you don't need anything written because you need that the fund government can go over with this constitution. that is the house for everybody. i agree with that, but also i just read that the, the power of the body of the constitution is religious. see the people, it gives them most probably this nuclear additional new tech will lead to address some issues that are problematic. hearing, for example, that we don't guarantee really guarantee is some social and economic. oh right. so

i think we are going to move it that way. i know how you consider it, how you respect on how to promote that participation. all in groups of people who are traditionally excluded from our or decisions like indigenous people like women and other kind of groups. so i think that in the field we, if we started like the feel we, yes, we would like it perhaps. i mean, i know that, but also i think that we need to recognize some, i don't know, some lack of recognition as or so some lack of quality of the features of our current position a and that needs to be included so that people consider that this call to, to show you sleep if you want to bring in another voice here. this is one of the painful when i go for sure, you need to see the other one on the table watching whether you need a new table. and i think we're trying to build

a new table rather than everyone at the table about tina you're going to jump in there too, or? yeah, i think both, but there's a thing that we are considering that maybe the people that are here wants to put things that maybe shouldn't go on the real because you should, i mean, ah, people here one, all of their rights are all of our believe all of their dreams, britain in this new constitution. and for example, there are think about theme and i haven't been contributions and other countries that have norms or think about b. and it doesn't mean that sleep and security is that important, but maybe it's law materials. so i think that many of the people here don't want to get their own thinking in the constitution, and maybe they haven't realized what they should have before, like the comfort experience. and it should really be there. i talk a lot with all your family members and they're super,

a bit with the idea that what they want has to go there. and it's because of the people it because the people wanted. but maybe i don't know if they think well is this ok, should it go here should in the congress after legislate a law on it? so i think that's up, it's going to be an interesting result. what we have from here, i'm gonna pull in one more voice here. this is maria alika lucas freelance journalist and listen, she was a these some brittany process has brought together since he sent from the most diverse centers. 2 weeks ago that bolting wheeling, the constitutional assembly began, the paper is no longer blank, but not all the teams have been approved by the fine corals. many have been rejected and returned to their e. you know commissions. the k times are ahead and it has not been defined where an extension will be requested. combinations are already meeting in the weekends to the late about the draft time he's running out to valentine

a year there. how much pressure are the constituents feeling with the deadline? approaching well, if we put it on a scale from one to 10100, they are telling you all the time, like we have to get this done by the 4th of july let. and so now we're saying like i know you have with the lock that, that it's trouble and the new congress that he's gonna pass a lot. well, you can get more time, but it's difficult. i mean all this but the discussion, it can 3 and i've been to 8 hours and then voting, article by article it takes time and it also you can question ok, you're voting on it and it's important and everything should get really, really at track. but what if you're voting plan are people going to be listening to you or they're going up, eat informed about the process? so there's a lot of things that basically take an account and i think at this moment they're not, but they are really shoveled about the time. and it's any process is that it goes

back to the people for a vote, right? to be approved. and that, and right now the polls are looking like maybe less than half of the people are supporting it at this point. so at this, you know, people one for more. sure. yeah, people when you consideration they are not very happy with job. 5 the constitutional convention is doing the people thing, the new constitution. it's like a magic bill that will solve all of this problem. so they do one thing, the constitution, even if they don't understand what the new institution with her or what the content of the new constitution should be. okay, okay, i got it. so, you know, this just seems like this is a, it's messy, it's challenging, it's difficult, but it's also democracy at work and kind of fascinating. so is this approach is the deadline, july 4th, we'll be watching it here on al jazeera english. and i want to thank all of you for joining us today and for our audience. well, we'll see you next time on the stream. ah,

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