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sporting world has lost one of its most unique talents. ah. hello, you're watching al jazeera, these are the top stories. the sour russia has declared a temporary cease fire in and around. mario paul and vol nava. come, it's meant to allow safe passage for people who are facing shortages of power. food and water by of cities had been under heavy bombardment by russian forces. a large explosion lit up the night sky in the ukrainian city of chimney of it's about 140 kilometers from the capital. the russian air strikes caused extensive damage to homes. ukraine's president is accusing nato is giving russia the green light to further bombard and kill ukrainians. below me,
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zalinski says the alliances refusal refusal to establish and no flies on or only laid 2 more civilian debts. was she lord, the icky vehement joel people who die from this day forward will die because of you because of your weakness because of your lack of unity. all that the alliance was able to do today was to pass foods procurement system, 50 tons of diesel fuel for ukraine will perhaps, so that we could burn the budapest memorandum guaranteeing ukraine security. russia is government has blocked facebook, restricted access to twitter and band to some foreign media websites. that's after it approved a new law against what it says is frank news. russia's communications watchdog says it has documented more than 20 cases of what, what it describes as discrimination. by facebook's owner and south korea's military says, north korea has fired a suspected ballistic missiles towards waters east of the peninsula. am, if confirmed it will be north korea's 9th weapons test is here. those are the
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headlines i am language. stay safe tune for inside store. i'm counting the cost can energy reserves, and china help rob lump the impact of massive western sanctions with grain export from ukraine. disrupted, worries, mouths about global food security and will you energy sanctions put pressure in mars military counseling because of al jazeera nato's has it does not seek war but is ready for it is foreign ministers have met to discuss the conflict in ukraine, but will the alliance get involved, i'm just the does what will be the consequences this is inside story. ah, ah. hello and welcome to the program i'm getting obligate on the russian invasion of
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ukraine is now in its 2nd week, and there is no sign of a lead up friday. saw the attack on europe's largest nuclear facility by russian forces in ukraine. the site caught fire before being put out. it sparked worldwide condemnation on fears if a catastrophic radiation leak. nato for ministers have met in brussels for a special summit on ukraine. the alliance has opposed more sanctions on the russian leader vladimir putin and his inner circle. and the u. s. is going after business leaders who are closely tied to the kremlin. but none of this appears to be swaying prison into pulling back his troops. the u. s. sector stay down to the blink and says nato does not want confrontation with moscow. but it stands ready if conflict comes while the head of the alliance condemned russia attack on the nuclear sites as reckless facts on. so they know that in the ports about the tact against the nuclear power, does this war an important ending in the
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important restaurant we're doing all the students engage in good faith in diplomatic efforts. every ally in one way or another is coming to friends, assistance, every ally in one way or another is helping to strengthen nato itself. and is the secretary general said ours is a defensive allies. we seek no conflict. but if constant comes to us, we're ready for it, and we will defend every inch of nato territory. will bring in our guests in a moment. the 1st, let's look at why ukraine has long been a particularly sensitive issue. for moscow, it was part of the russian empire before becoming a soviet republic, and then winning independence in 1991. when the soviet union collapsed. moscow has since been concerned with keeping ukraine out of nato flood, where putin says the west promised. in the past nato wouldn't expand eastwards. but since $99714.00 more countries have joined the alliance mainly in the east. there
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were tensions 8 years ago when mass protest toppled the ukrainian president. victor eoc of bitch, he post for closer ties to moscow rather than the e. u. a russians armed forces responded by an ex thing the crimean peninsula and backing a separate just rebellion in eastern ukraine. ah, let's not bring our gas joining us from brussels as brooks taken her. who's the correspondent for jane? defense weekly magazine, and washington d. c. robert hunter, a former us ambassador to nato, joining us from moscow. andre bucklin off was the chairman of the board of the association of russian diplomats. i thank you so much for your time with us on inside story. ambassador robert over to you, young thornburgh has just said that nato is not part of the conflict. nato is a defensive alliance. we don't seek war or conflict with russia, but the longer this goes on, what does nato do? then?
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the native commitment under article 5 of the treaty of washington is to defend countries that are formerly members of the lions and everybody, nato was trying to get across to mister potent, that whatever happens in ukraine, and i'm sure we're going to be talking about that. he'd better not make any mistake, as to put it by the american secretary of state. any russians coming into a nato countries, nato coding in states is ready to respond. so it's going to be a very firm, defense of all nato. it comes to that at the same time, while a number of countries are providing weaponry to do your grading and no, no, no country is prepared to go to war for your current, which is not an 8 member. alright. brooks over to you, did you share the same point of view as the master does,
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or what does nato do of this? continues the war on ukraine? we've, we've seen all sort of unprecedented reaction so far, including, of course, the sanctions on russia, as well as for the 1st time the purchase and delivery of weapons to ukraine itself . yes, i agree with one word said all the way down the line on, on the policy and the article 5 issues. if this, if russia continues, it's aggression and the threat perception increases on nato's part. what can you do? well, it has to do more of what is already done, which effectively just describe both robert and the secretary general. but also i think if they are going to help you crane, even though they can't find their jets there and put any boots on the ground, they need to step up other weapons transfers which are not necessarily very speedy given. they got to go across the land, primarily rushes blocking most of the c access. so and d,
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i just asked the section of this question in press conference. you know, you should need to consider setting up a more permanent structure for moving weapons of coordinating bilateral transfers among the weapons. nato itself doesn't transfer weapons of course, but he was doing this with poland. seems to me, it would make sense to at least set up a standing ad hoc standing structure that's more than ad hoc either. that rotates among the allies as a coordinator, or it's coordinate by nature. but the secretary general seem to suggest that's not on the table for the time being since you're in that press conference, let me just get one more question to you burton. that is the calls by the ukranian president. i'm sure you've heard for nature to enforce the no fly zone. now this is something that the secretary general has come out and said that is not going to happen. he has ruled out that idea lithuanian prime minister describing it is irresponsible. do you think that nato is going to stick to us? it has to unless it wants war, i mean to set up
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a no fly zone and enforce that over the skies of ukraine would put allied troops and equipment and weapons directly in conflict with those of russia, and that would be war. so simple answer, no. all right, andre, over and moscow, over the last weeks we in this is according to to nato. in fact, what they're saying is that they have increased their presence in the eastern part of the alliance. and for the 1st time, they are deploying the nato response force with french troops, now arriving in romania. this is quite unprecedented with natal building up its military. how is this being perceived by the kremlin? actually, there is nothing special in these facts because of this is the part of litigation over the many years of the native policy, they are bringing closer and closer their military infrastructure to our territory . the roar, 14 members of the blog,
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now they are mark having 30 members of the of the blog and officially, if we started the documents of nato, the officially are attributing for the overt enemy to us so. so well, actually, what we have now for the, the more than 20 years, nato is coming closer a closer to or a, to our cities or to our centers of industrial might. this is very dangerous. we remember the lessons of 1941 when hitler ah, a tech to us, and we are not going to make the same mistakes as we did a before. the 2nd was war when we was very cautious not to start the war, not too well, but we were trying to to, to, to go out at not took her water, but it was in vain. and now we are warning as the rest are not to come closer
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and closer to us. this is too dangerous to our sales, and we will defend our cell, which we already started in the process of benefit occasion. over over a you brain, we are calling this liberation, me person. right? but the rest, all right. live the west. yeah. right, right. but let me just jump in there. i mean, because another way to describe it as we've seen a by the, by western countries as well as the united states and nato is that they are in fact describing this as an invasion under about 20. but let me put some of what you have to say to robert hunter over in washington, your response to the comment out of russia and also let me just ask you this. i mean, in january the u. s. secretary state said that nato is door is open, it remains open, and that is our commitment. knowing full well that this is something that bothers russia to what extensive this open door policy maximize friction with russia, ambassador. and as a result has culminated in this current crisis,
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i can understand the concern in russia about not having ukraine be a member of nato, which isn't going to happen at the same time if you're talking about 941 and operation barbarossa and wish to nazis went into the soviet union. the operation barbarossa now is being conducted by russia against another country. and if there's any parallel with the nazis agenda, kremlin j, ironically, the soviet union fought for 2 and a half years to keep the nasty out of the kremlin. and now they're, they're hurt at the kremlin causing, causing conflict. there was no justification what so ever for what russia is doing nato, no nato country and not ukraine, which is not a natural country, is posing any threat. what so ever to russia, mr. put knows,
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it is for whatever reason, using a form of words to justify an aggressive military action. unprecedented sense, what is what the russians call a bridge patriotic war. all right, so if mr. is concern, he could just stop to go shake and get everybody from russia back out here saying, here's the thing, was for a moment the warn ukraine follows decades of warnings that nato expansion into eastern europe could actually provoke russia. and this is from the ca director william jaber, and he'd been warning about it since 995. saying this hostility to early nato expansion is almost universally felt across the domestic domestic political spectrum here. and when president bill clinton's administration moved to bring poland, hungary and the czech republic into nato, he said the decision was premature at best, needlessly provocative worth. so there happened warnings about this in the past.
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brooke, signor, should we not be surprised? the things have gotten to this point, but i'm not sure i fully agree with that. let's remember that when the so you don't agree with you don't agree with the statement that was made by the c i, director, which has been echoed in fact night or is including henry kissinger and a 2014 opinion opinion piece of course. so what that doesn't mean a journalist can contest it, and i do for the following reason. when the soviet union fell apart and when the warsaw apart back fell apart. let's remember that these countries on their own chose to join nato. the way a russian speaker is framed, the issue is that it's as if nature, belligerently expanded eastward, it didn't, there was a process. it's a, it's the path as the we've heard nature, officials say over and over again. it is the democratic and independent choice of each country to join the alliance. these countries asked to join if they weren't interested in joining nato, they wouldn't have an oil. and then what you end up,
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you end up with a no man's land, a strip of land running down north south through europe, which i suppose russia would have liked to be permanent. but these countries did not want that permanent status. they asked to join nato. a you couldn't, you could argue that maybe nature could have waited longer than 997 to let them in another 5 or 10 years to massage relations with russia. but on the other hand, there was a lot of pressure from these east european capitals to join nato. and perhaps they had a reason for doing so. andrea, would you like to respond? yes. first of all, i'd like to on the line on the fact risha of french in united states are ignoring the fact is that the, the present day, a government and but the, the rules of, or in keith they came originally in 2014 as
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a cool beta illegal, put a thought in this is reverse, but ok. oh good. i thought can happen, but it's a full day thought. a very specific nature and the, the, the people now occupy and the key positions they are nazi. so we think that a present day, a campaign, a vicious dipper ligation of our or war, which we case against the, the nazi germany, the nazi germany and the cold europe backed. we don't, we remember that, that all the europe we're occupied and the, the rule in shockers will willingly help her this not to germany. and they made 60 percent of the necessary equipment for the german aggressive. busy army, remember a visa or you know, facts about the behavior over the course of the grain when i'd really like to keep in discussion, hopefully today's headlines. this is anti nazi because i'm not,
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i'd really like when he was not one, probably not today's events. ambassador robert hunter, it weigh in please, because i see you shaking your head well, if anybody is behaving like germany today is mr. pruitt, i don't know whether he has a lot of support. his own country position, or evasion of a sovereign country, which posed a 0 threat to russia or anybody else. nato has never invaded any european country that the russians could possibly care about. they got involved in bosnia and kosovo because of the incredibly bad things were happening there. and fact the russian supported o nato, in the west, in bosnia and then sent troops to the, to the implementation force. but there is absolutely no justification at all hawaii to russia is now doing. but what do you make of the arguments ambassador, that right, i feel like it's already is in fact threatened because we have seen activities in
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that particular region such as war games with american tank states. the nearby baltic states. we have rocket states stations in both poland and romania and russia seas. this is a threat to a security. if you're asking me. yes, i happen after the invasion of crimea as a john boss region in 2014 and remember up in jail where there has been the nato, russia founded act. russia was involved in the council with nato as an equal, as to brussels could have continued tat. but instead, mister decided and 2014, to see a chunk of, of europe. and that was uncalled for unprovoked. there is no threat from nato. nobody can possibly call while anything nato was done as a provocation to russia or whatever mister bruce has in mind. that's only in his
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mind, but he is in aggressive state. and one of the problem is coming out of this is there is no western stake coating united states that will ever again be able to deal with mr. newton. if russia wants to have a healthy relationship, russia is going to have to take care of it on leadership. we're going to discuss that also in a moment. i'd like to get your take on what happens next. but 1st work, signor, if you can just give us some context of this. because why would nato want to move east in the 1st place? you know, since 99714 more countries have joined the alliance mainly in the east. well, it's not that, and it's the one i repeat. what i said earlier. it's not that nato wanted to movies . it's the fact that there were countries in eastern part of europe that asked to join nato. so therefore there was an organic expansion. there was no great game plan to us, all of
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a sudden ext and nato's entire frontier eastward. it just happened step by step. so as far as for some of these exercises that are russian speakers refer to, i mean, robert hunter had a point. most of these project 2014 premier, most of these exercises were notified by both sides quite diligently under the sci fi, the conventional forces in europe convention treaty. so everyone knew what everyone was doing, but since then things have become much more ambiguous as both sides try to figure out what the other is doing or the notifications haven't taken place, certainly from the russian side. so you can interpret whether nato is having more aggressive military exercise in the eastern as you like. but i will say one other thing on the propaganda front, or at least on the language that's coming out of russia to, to characterize ukraine's, your political leadership as nazis. and that the russian needs of the nazi fi
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ukraine has been, is just outrageous. it has really inflamed most of the ukrainians. i know, and it's a great irony to accuse the country's president of being a nazi when. in fact, i think this is valencia has lost family members during, during all cost and, and, and in 2nd, reward to this isn't, is kind of language is not helping relations at all. andrea backline of i and the secretary general of nato stillberg has said that nato entering the fighting in ukraine could leads to widespread war in europe. i mean, looking ahead, what is the view from russia about about what happens next in the coming days and weeks ahead? so, so all i'd like to correct a little bit of our, the sake of value for the 2nd time. and i'd really appreciate an answer to my question. let's look ahead and, and tell me what you think will happen. well,
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actually, we are very much, you know, nervous about the mercenaries coming from, from europe. they are sending approximately $16000.00 mercenaries out there and also a new and new are almost coming to the kinds of these nazi elements. and the minister of foreign affairs yesterday reacted to these i think. and they said that again and again in 20th century. and now and with century german, for instance, are sending the the, the out of moments to kill russians. but when it's a lutheran was i will be landscape with what is pollutant and aim with the war and ukraine. well, actually a we a, we came to the point where it's necessary to do something. you know, that in munich, a few weeks ago,
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the so called president of ukraine. he claimed that ukraine will acquire atomic weapons. well, we made a impossible for the not to germany to inquire because we in 1945, and it will not. but with all due respect, he is the date of the crane who you are elected president of ukraine. so i don't think we can call on the so called let me go over to robert hanser in washington in ambassador 184 we and the show before we under. so just tell me how you see this playing out. well, pat, really as after mister put, because we have shared in the west beginning with the united states, that we will not get involved in this conflict. even though it is an aggressive action against a sovereign country to which in 1994 russia along with britain, the united states, in exchange for ukraine giving up nuclear weapons as solemn commitment to
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protect the border of ukraine. not to do anything against you. quick as and also a baylor rule center because extra, and they are broken after amendment, no matter what has happened on the western side. russia put itself in a position of an aggressor nation if mister potent wants to stop. now, arrangements can be worked out so that as we tried back in 19 august rusher, can be a full participant in an overall european security effort. mister potent decided you didn't want it. and he has now put himself in a situation where he damaged his country. country for a long time to come short term sanctions or one side long term isolation from the outside world. he has jamming his own people to go through the terrible deprivations they went through in the cold war. all right. and final word over to you. brooks taken over, there has been a lot of diplomatic activity where you are,
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in particular in brussels. how, how do, how do nations sort of dial back? how does everybody dial back from this and what, how do you foresee this playing out over the next days and weeks ahead? i don't think there will be much of a weighted thing to dial back things diplomatically. that's beneath the main plea of the western nations which has fallen on deaf ears and moscow as for the way as for how this might play out. i won't speculate about mister britton's in game, but i will speculate about his tactics. it would make sense if he cannot conquer physically the entire country that he would probably pull back and whole the areas that he has. and then use the same tactics. the same approach he did with the don't boss get the people in there move some people in there in order to support him, declare them as republics, and absorb the territories eventually into russia. i wouldn't be surprised if that
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was his up his plan. all right, we'll leave it there. thank you so much for joining us. brooks taking to robert hunter and andrea bucklin over really appreciate your time with us. thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. you can go to our facebook page dot, facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story, join the conversation on twitter handle is a james. i story myself and the whole team here and how, thanks for watching and the bye for now. for this one's feared warlord during lay barriers, decade long civil war says he's now fighting a drug epidemic. the work that the former warlord joshua boy he has done with treat children, has attracted to how black sentiment been and as protected in effects from public crawl situation. despite the recommendation is made by the truth and reconciliation
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