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he says become a national issue. so necessarily, yeah, the attention has not been bid by the political hierarchy been there now and the door to reduce. so we have been fighting in all with almost everyone to sort out this issue. increasing prices and shortages are not unique to shanker but people here see their leaders of aggravated the situation through years of corruption and mismanagement. their fernandez ojo 0 colombo ah. as al jazeera, these, the top stories russian military forces are set to reportedly hold fire in several ukrainian cities and civilians to leave safely. these are the latest pictures from the checkpoints outside of keith. humanitarian corridors are being opened at the request of the french president. ukrainian president of laudermill in ski has condemned what he says is the deliberate targeting of civilians calling it murder.
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fighting around the capital key of has intensified as russian forces pushed further into the country. we may have robots from our aust really, we will not forgive the shooting of on our people or the destruction of our infrastructure. we won't forgive hundreds and hundreds of victims, thousands and thousands of sufferings and god won't forgive. you. not today, not to morrow, never. the un nuclear watchdog says it is extremely concerned about reports. ukrainian authorities are having difficulty reaching stafford to nuclear plants. facility is every sheer is now on the russian control. ones, according to the nuclear energy body, australia is private as to says his country has sent $70000000.00 worth of military assistance and medical supplies to ukraine. our missiles are on the ground now. if there is to your effective support, we can provide to assist you cry difference, we will every die you cry and resist is
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a further die of humiliation. the president and imposes a heavy for us on he's a legal, reckless. he tell us acts of aggression. so yes, we have offered our praise strategy and we have also seen our ammunition the war in ukraine as push the price of us brent oil to the highest level since 2008, jumping to almost one $140.00 per barrel arise comes as the us and its allies consider an embargo. moscow. russia is the world's 3rd biggest export. and another news. serious government says an air attack, why israel has killed these 2 people in damascus. several explosions have been seen over the capital city, st. media reports series military responded to what's being called israeli aggression. was the headlines i'll have another up here on al jazeera run off the inside story. when the news breaks for it all started early out, around 5 am very large explosions. people working up to walk,
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but never expect too many. also, when people need to be heard and the story told her fine line or playing the role brain. our differences together with exclusive interviews and in depth reports. this is norma. this is tyler. al jazeera has teens on the ground to bring you more award winning documentaries and live news. 1.5000000 people have now escaped russia's war in ukraine. it's europe's biggest refugee crisis since the end of the 2nd world war. can the continent cope and what should be the use policy response? this is inside story. ah, hello and welcome to the program fully back table rushes invasion of ukraine has
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created 1500000 refugees in just 10 days. the u. n says is the fastest growing refugee crisis in europe since the 2nd world war. at least $63000.00 ukrainians have gone to romania. slovakia has received 101000. while more diverse president says more than 250000 have arrived in her country. nearly a 160000 i in hungary, but the biggest number of ukrainian refugees are in poland, which has received more than 756000. while refugees have been reporting having to wait for days to cross border checkpoints. agencies and volunteers are doing whatever they can to help. di yet is like g t. i brought the kids to romania with my mom and sister and her kids also. they're gonna stay here and i'm going back to you. kramer. lawyers destroyed pretty. i arrived with my sister and my children, but my husband and my mom stayed over there. we didn't want to come here, but my husband insisted on homelessness by else. it's kind of horrible because i
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had certain plans for my life in the upcoming months, and all of them are kind of shaken in the moment because i was planning to be present in ukraine and kia been a lot of other cities. but now with the situation i cannot continue and neither anything related to my career back in the brain. and i kind of need to start over things again, being in poland on the un high commissioner for refugees has told on to 0. the flow of people will increase in the coming days. what we also here is that hundreds of thousands are on the move. so, and this is the prediction of the border guards here, who by the way, are doing a very good job. and they predict that the floor will increase not decrease in the next few days and perhaps beyond bombs, continue to rain on cities, people will leave and the european union commission says it's going to take a lot of help to manage shane flux,
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opinion as ukraine's neighbor is sparing no effort. we're providing 500000000 yourself human shalean aid immediately and more will come. we're working fast to establish civil protection, the hops in poland in slovakia and romania. and we are also doing everything we can was international organizations and angels, to set up schuman italian corridors, that stretched inside you cream. ah, well, as now bringing our guests in war. so we have monica. my tools are human rights activists and spokeswoman for group a grand acre, a coalition of n g. oh, that's been supporting refugees in geneva. barbara belushi, a spokesman for the united nations high commissioner for refugees and in brussels, alberto night, heart policy analysts for the european diversity and migration program at the european policy center. thank you for joining us on inside story. we appreciate
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your time, monica. let me start with you in warsaw, poland your organization has been on the front lines of this crisis. we're talking now about more than half a 1000000 refugees arriving in poland alone in the last 10 days. give us some perspective 1st about what your teams have seen at the border with ukraine and, and whether the flow has increased or is it slowing in these past few days? i don't think the flow is so slowing in the last 2 days. i think it's a bit fluctuating, like, you know, some days there is a little bit less people some days there is more. i think it also depends on what's happening actually in ukraine and during the war. but we are expecting more or less the same flaws. so to speak of people over the next days or weeks, even at the moment, as you mentioned, like there is over 700000 yesterday in poland media we heard the number
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800000 people that have arrived already in poland. mostly it's a, it's ukrainian mothers with children early people, but also of course, there's quite a lot of for a nurse learn who don't have ukrainian passports. so a lot of african students, a lot of people from 5 countries who are also passing and seeing the war. these are people who had their lives, monica ripped apart in the last 10 days, and many have left their loved ones inside ukraine. you mentioned that most where women and children, because the men have failed to fight. all right. what have they told you about their journey to poland and what is right now they're short term need and what do you expect? they're medium and long term needs to be so of course the journey is quite
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difficult already because you know, the trains, the buses are over absolutely over overloaded and then they have to wait for long, long, long hours. sometimes they to actually get to, to the proper border crossing. and we, and many volunteers from our side, but also from, you know, local authorities and they are providing humanitarian assistance along the queues, like going into ukraine, but also on the polish side. and we know that the short term need so short term needs all the time, increasing i would say, are, you know, transporting people providing to show their providing foods, providing some sort of legal assistance very quickly and making them understand what is their legal situation in poland and in the european union, and then i long term assistance which is growing but also will be growing next face
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and making this people understand what to do next and what they can do next. right? it is indeed growing as we heard from the un, a refugee chief earlier about bellucci geneva. let me ask you about the scope of the crisis you and hcr talks about. this being the largest refugee crisis in a century. why? what makes us the largest refugee crisis in a century, especially when you consider that a country like syria, for example, has had what? over 5w6w syrians leave the country during the conflict there. what's different this time around? indeed, i mean the similarity in terms of the devastation or bring is the same. its impact on all human beings. as in part, it disrupts life towards the art of people's living. you know, and there is death of destruction and displacement. what we are saying is we have not witnessed this piece in recent times of. busy busy 100000 people
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or even more than 100000 people fleeing within a day, the number is 1500000 in the 10 days. this is just not an ordinary number. these are human beings and millions of others who are inside ukraine that have, have been affected. so, so this has not been seen. this is a unit fastest, growing a unit in crisis of the century. and what's encouraging a, just let me add b, o is the outpour of poor that we have so far seen the best of humanity in the neighboring countries, right? 1.5000000 above our have fled ukraine, one to we know about those who are still inside those who are internally displaced . how bad is a situation for them? and is you any he are able to reach them? it is really bad. you cannot get a clear picture in terms of the all number of displacement in the country because
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it's unpredictable. it's very dangerous for. busy people we know that millions are on the move, in terms of seeking safety inside the country. unity has remained in ukraine and in the neighboring countries. we are bringing help as much as we can. we are also are bringing supplies from other places. busy like for instance, and taking things inside to train to help in the western parts of portland, but also in kids where we had some supplies, we are trying to go out and support. and as it was mentioned, the way things are going, the feel is more people will be affected, more will be displaced, more will become ref, refugees. and that's why it's very important that the guns have to fall silent about. and i heart in brussels, as barbara said, their tremendous solidarity,
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especially from european government, some rare consensus from member states on how to deal with the influx of refugees from ukraine. this time around. tell us more 1st about what the e has done to help those who have been coming in to begin with the european commission has provided operational assistance and has coordinated efforts of the country's neighbouring crane. but clearly from what money can, bye bye, have said it is clear that these countries will not be able on their own, to offer sufficient protection or at to cover the needs in the short and in the long term of those seeing from a crane. and so for the reason interior administers of the you have met last thursday and they to unanimous decision to introduce or activate better at the temporary protection directive. and this is a, an unprecedented and also historic moment. this is
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a group based form of immediate protection that gives residence rights and access to the labor market to those who are eligible for the protection. it also gives the possibility to them any families that are keeping the brain to enroll their children in school. so if you're at work, i'm sorry to interrupt you because it is very important what you're saying, but i want to know whether europe can cope one of the challenges 1st, you know, short and median term for, for european governments. with all these refugees coming in, there will be challenges and i think it's also important that the public at large is aware of them. there are many questions to begin with. where will these persons go? some of them, of course, we try to reach their family members and extend the communities. and so there is a question about the, how the countries that will receive the lion's share of those around for their
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lives and will guarantee access to the labor market or sufficient housing. there are also questions about those who won't be able to travel across europe at to find safety. so what sort of fully diety will be guaranteed by the european union to disperse? and another challenge in the medium term will be how to support financially and local authorities, as well as central governments that will host the koreans and other groups running from crane. okay, well let's pause a moment and take a look at how this crisis has been dealt with compared to previous ones as you've heard from are better there. for the 1st time, the you has proposed triggering a special rule called a temporary protection directive to help the cranium refugees. they'll have the right to live and work in the block for up to 3 years without a visa. but the directive text was changed to only protect ukrainian nationals and
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long term residents, hungary and romania, offering cash for food and clothing and to educate ukrainian children in local schools. the u. k is setting up a scheme to help businesses sponsor ukrainian refugees. and let's compare that to other recent humanitarian crises, with 6600000 refugees. the war in syria is the wealth biggest refugee emergency european countries to can 1000000 nelson mostly between germany and sweden. and they are 2600000 registered afghan refugees b you agreed in december to we settle. $40000.00 of them. so monica, let me come to you are in poland 1st, because the way poland has reacted to this crisis is a very different from the reaction when we saw the, the migrant and refugee crisis at the border with a bell rule is a few months ago. how do you explain this? i don't have words for this. we are actually quite. i mean it's very difficult
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emotions as well for us because me myself, even though we were on the polish, for some border, 4 months actually putting people out of the forest. so you can imagine like, what kind of strange feelings we have when we then go to the police ukrainian border and you don't have to actually, you know, crawl in the forest in the dark to provide food and water to, to children and people and hear you like we welcome them with the open arms. we are absolutely happy that the college government is, you know, welcoming so openly and we are welcoming open the as well. ukrainians, but, and non ukraine. i, you know, citizens, but it is still falling just yesterday. we heard again about, you know, a group of a syrian people being pushed back to bell, i was on the polish, by recent order. so this discrepancy, this kind of on, on explainable, you know,
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policy is still there and it's still in place and the things on the polish below border are still happening. i cannot, i don't know what's the, what's the idea behind is i think it's, it's, it's, i could use a word racism, but i, i don't know if it's racism if it's just the, you know, policy as sort of a narrative for many years and not opening the border so much to non neighboring countries about what he thinks about this this discrepancy. all right, so how do you explain this? what should we make of europe's gets a frantic refugee response? well, 1st of all, i understand perfect g at the claim that what we are seeing now are double standards. and indeed the situation in poland is quite a destructive of a trend that we have seen for many years. you mentioned before the senior guys is
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and you know, believe the of member states to reach consensus on how to divide responsibility and offer protection for the many, hundreds, thousands of people who were also running from a conflict. i think that possibly the edge, a graphical proximity to the wording says, may have a lead to a significant change in perception, in the european public. but it is also clear that it also depends on european governments and their responses and how the frame, the emergency that the terms it change in sensitivity in the public at large. to go back to what monica was saying, i think we are seeing clearly and overwhelming out of 40 diety from ordinary citizens. but it's also clear that this would not be sustainable in the long term. and so member states and that you as it all will be called with responsibility to offer protection to everybody in the case of these countries to koreans and others who are running for their life from korean. but it's also necessary to offer
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protection without discrimination on the basis of nationality or any other factor. and for these reason, it is important and i hope that this will be what they're said moment. that will also that there, that there is a change of intent and more courage on the part of the you to have a consolidated common european as alan site. and in different, by, by your foss about this, you're upstairs, you will give these refugees extended rights to stay in the european union. but these protections from what i understand for now will only apply to refugees where ukrainian citizens, right. so what happens to all those war from 3rd countries, the 3rd national civil also tried to escape this conflict. what confession, cpr i to them the safety. i mean that's very important. every one who is running a situation of war. busy and conflict has to find a safety, you don't become refugee by a choice and, and countries have legal and moral obligations. and that's why it's very. busy important that humanity can not be applied selectively are saying that also we have
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seen, even in the other crisis, our neighbors have stepped forward hosting. busy busy refugees at the same scale, i mean majority of seasons, majority of ons are majority of do those who are fleeing of conflict in africa. 2 and the rank us, they have been a taken care by the neighbor. that's why the word solidarity is very important. you are in this context as well. and we see when, when the civil society, when populations, when the government's every one comes together. busy we can deal with unity in disasters better and give some hope to the people who are affected by conflict and war. monica on solidarity is the polish government, are polish authorities. preparing for the presence out of these refugees in the long run. you think?
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you don't think so. i mean, i 1st of all as it was sent already, it's unprecedented. so i don't think any government would be would be able to handle it. well, you know, but i just threw over a week ago just when the, when the war started on the polish minister of, you know, internal a 1st came on to be and said, we are very well, but we have been preparing for many weeks, which was absolutely not true at the time. a lot of are majority of the work which is now being done. i think it stays on the shoulders of local authorities, non governmental, you know, groups, initiatives, organizations. i am seeing this every day. i was also talking to many representatives of local authorities, the quite complaint for the lack of, you know, support from the government. and i don't think that there is a sort of a long term thinking already play. i would love to i would,
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i would love to hear about it if there is some, but i think at the moment it's just really sort of dealing with emergency. yeah. i, speaking of dealing with emergency by there's been talk, has been discussion of setting up a humanitarian core door that would allow, you know, safe passage for the refugees, for the people who are still inside. how would that work? i'm in and, and would that help you think it's needed? i mean, 1st we need this, this war to and i mean as you heard you and i comes to for refugees. physical grande, as far as bonds are falling, people have to run for. busy safety and that's why we're very concerned those people who need a safe passage to get out it. busy has to be implemented right now, that's the need in, inside uterine and, and then we can try to support on humanitarian business in terms of agencies like, you know, and others i, c, r, c and, and, and others in terms of a. busy kind of making this possible logistically it is possible. uh,
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but security wise, we need the guarantees from all sides to do to make it happen and it should happen as soon as possible. security guarantees bar. what about financially, money wise? what, what are the needs right now? we lost her as, as, as the un and the human, the to the largest community be launched a. busy week ago and funding for $1700000000.00 us dollars for just a short on. and this was for inside ukraine and also for those countries that have been receiving refugees. the support has been out for in terms of, of. busy finances as well, they have been many contributions over me as units. y'all have received more than $200000000.00 us dollars to support a refugees and also people inside. but this is just short and more will be needed.
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more support will be needed is also encouraging to see not governments, but individuals of businesses and hong nations coming forward to, to contribute support is coming back. more is needed. you say barbara, are better. i'll give you the last word, the use migration policy, looking ahead now, i mean, they were proposals for legislative reform to you migration and asylum law on the table even before this ukraine conflicts began d. c. this being herridge now. and, and do you expect concrete steps to be taken towards addressing the gaps that have existed? like i said, this is a historic moment and to answer your question, i believe that the divisions and the sticking points of the past would not be forgotten overnight. i think they will remain divisions and disagreements between member states and so often and, and north, west and east of, of, of europe. but what is fear based on what we are seeing now,
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is that they use more that brings these countries together than set them apart. so the question is, in these context, if their broader set of reforms will be able to move forward, i believe that it is, again in these moments that the best and the worst of, of, of prisons in countries and governments is revealed. and i truly believe and hope that you will manage to find a common ground on, on the policies that are badly needed at one last point on what was said by the other speakers. i think there is also a change of mindset that is needed at these point from the short term to the long term. because again, they need these now to provide food and shelter. but in the long term that will be in need to provide housing and work to those escaping from the conflict. it is the kind of thinking that will the been
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a sustainable reforms in this area without it. i think this is going to be an emergency that will not be solved in the, in the short run by common efforts by european countries. so solution is needed in the short term, but also in the long term. thank you very much. toll free of you for a very interesting discussion, monica mottos, bob, bob, luge, and alberto my heart. and thank you for watching. you can always wash his program again any time by visiting our website at al jazeera dot com for further discussion . go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is our insights story from me, from the back to buy a whole team here. and thanks for watching bye for now. the the important thing if you are walking around in beirut was not to be in the line
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