war the communist party, australia has announced it will set up a 2nd submarine based to both its regional defense capabilities. british american and estrella and nuclear power subs purchase under the orchestra lateral pact will be based here to count a china moves in the indo pacific. construction of this space will begin next year . sarah clark, al jazeera brisbin, australia. ah, this is al jazeera, these are the top stories ukrainian, and russian officials and bellows. for the 3rd round of talks, they're discussing how to open humanitarian corridors out of several ukrainian cities to get civilians to safety. most of the corridors tabled by moscow would only allow, evacuated to go to russia or bella luce, keith says, the proposed roots are completely immoral. scenes of devastation in ukraine's 2nd largest city car eve, residential areas and government buildings have been hit by russian air strikes.

people in kiva preparing to defend themselves, as russian forces advanced towards the city. soldiers and armed residents are mounting checkpoints. a 65 kilometer long russian armored convoy has been slowly moving towards keeps since last week. russian soldiers holding the city of her son have fought with ukrainian protestors who were demonstrating against russia's takeover of the region house on as the largest urban centre moscow's captured. since the invasion began. un says 8 trucks been unable to enter the city because of ongoing funding. british prime minister bars johnson's trying to galvanize western support around his plan for the unified approach to the war in ukraine. he says more has to be done to target president putin's inner circle and move away from dependence on russian energy. you can't simply closed down a use of, of oil and gas, or overnight to even from, from russia. that's, that's,

that's obviously not something that every country around the world could can do. we can go fast in the, in the u. k. all the countries can go fast, but either the, there are different dependencies. what we need to do is to make sure that we're all moving in the same direction and we will share the same assumptions at the we accelerate that move. the rice of you. as brent crude has jumped again, hitting nearly a $140.00 a barrel, that is highest since the middle of 20 o 8 is the u. s. and its allies. consider an embargo on moscow. russia is the world's 3rd biggest oil export of supplying 7000000 barrels a day. and ukraine's taken russia to court over the war. but moscow didn't attend the hearing cave once the international court of justice to order an end to the military action. there was the headlines in his continues, he had an al jazeera auto inside story. good bye. i joined al jazeera as part of the launch team in 2006 protesters have called for

a 1000000 mom march. in that time, i recovered wars, revolutions, elections, and military coups, from the for villas of correctness. so the battlefields around most of our job is to get to the truth and empower people through knowledge. as russia intensifies its war on ukraine and leaders from the us, france, turkey and israel said of attempts to stop the conflict. does diplomacy still stand a chance and what's needed for breakthrough? this is insight. ah hello and welcome to the program, am fully back table. russia says its invasion of ukraine could stop at any moment if keith agrees to its demands. these include recognizing crimea and breakaway

regions in east and ukraine as russian territories. and as the war intensifies world leaders are increasing their diplomatic efforts. the u. s. secretary of state has visited moldova and nato allies, poland, lithuania and latvia. antony blanket hinted at more sanctions against russia, including banning oil imports. he reminded present vladimir putin of the price, his paying for continuing the conflict. we see the rouble going through the floor. we see rushes credit rating coming, basically to 0 to drunk status, as we would call it. we see a stock market shut down. we see an exodus of virtually every leading company from russia. all of those things are happening. they're happening in real time at the same time. other steps that we've taken, including export controls on of the most important technology that russian needs to modernize for the future. including its defense in aerospace industries, including its energy sector. that technology is being denied to russia. that's

going to have a powerful impact over time. meanwhile, diplomatic efforts continue turkey says the foreign ministers of russia and ukraine will meet in on tale or later this week. the leaders of france and israel are talking to me a protein as well. front is emanuel my coal spent 2 hours on the phone on sunday, urging the russian president and military operations and protects ukraine's nuclear sites. and israel's foreign minister, enough, tiny bennett, made a secret trip to moscow on saturday before meeting germany's chancellor in berlin. john a whole has more from the vive. in western ukraine, several world leaders have dipped their toes into increasingly murky diplomatic waters. in recent days. on the weekend president emanuel micron of france held his 4th phone call with lead to be approved in the criminal since the invasion began on february, the 24th, the pest spent an hour and 45 minutes talking on the phone on sunday. president macro is said to have urged routine to uphold humanitarian law and to respect the

safety of ukraine's nuclear sites. naphtali bennett, the israeli prime minister, took off on a secret flight to moscow on the weekend spending 3 hours with mister putin in the kremlin before then. heading off for further talks with the german government in berlin, but the phone call that has produced the most information for us about what president putin is currently thinking took place on sunday between him and president, one of turkey, mr. heard on, urged putin to declare a cease fire to open humanitarian corridors, and to sign a peace agreement. and he offered turkey as a host for talks that was from the turkish side. in response, the kremlin says, mister putin said the only way out of this war is if ukraine surrenders its weapons and guarantees all of the kremlin demands. those to remind you include not just the full military surrender of ukraine, but also guarantees about its neutrality. that it will never become

a member of nato. mister putin also wants crimea to be recognised as part of russia after its annexation into $1014.00. and he wants recognition of the independence of those breakaway regions. in the east, mister putin reportedly said that russia's war goals were on track for being met. and he said he hoped that ukrainian negotiators ahead of talks due to continue this week would approach those talks in a more, quote, constructive manner. the so can diplomacy ultimately bring an end to the conflict in ukraine? let's bring in our guests for today's show. in moscow we have andre fetterhoff, who served as deputy foreign minister of russia. and he's a chairman of the fun to political research and consulting in russia. in brussels, carol nano chief executive of the center for european policy and studies. and in doha, marwan, kabbalah,

the head of policy analysis at the center for research and policy studies. thank you all gentlemen for joining us on inside story andre fetterhoff in moscow. let me start with you, the 2 sides, russia and ukraine have engage in a couple of rounds of discussions bilaterally. but russia has not pause its military operations in ukraine. is the kremlin at all interested in diplomacy? of course colonel is interested in the blog post about the problem is there are during this recent contacts which sure through place are very one obstacle. russia, formerly a very clearly our number of demands which are unacceptable for ukrainian. so that's why our little during this diplomatic context, we can, the moralists agree only on some material issues. what all the main political issues are left on saw. and there are, if you chances they can be saw in the way. why wouldn't want,

what is president putting stinking andrei? i mean, what's his decision making process? and do you think he's willing to make any compromises on? on some of the red lines, he said he wouldn't cross. no, i don't think looked in case of your brain. i he will, he's absolutely not ready for compromise our ship all to very clear goal for himself. ah, do so as he mentioned recently that if there will be no agreement of ukraine on our demands, ah, you brain might lose it state who. so it's a really clear line, that's why we can expect that the mill regression might stop soon. ok, so you don't expect the military operation to stop soon, moran combine into her, let me bring you in. now, a lot of actors in this crisis trying to push for diplomacy. i turkeys, foreign minister has announced that the foreign ministers of russia and ukraine

will meet in antalya. and later this week, could they be a break? 3 think there's diplomacy still stand a chance in, in your view, in this crisis. now i don't think i don't think so. i don't think i see is having any chance this particular stage and they're making any progress i think president is using while actually and also using military force on the ground with their premium to get the conditions. and he wanted the very beginning. i think he, he's trying to, to be as much as possible out on the great in government most important for him that helps is to get the concession that makes green that mr. green, be not but of near to,

and also to just on this, on the country or to get there. so i don't think that having any chance or not. okay, so let me come to you now. then in brussel, caroline, oh, andre in moscow says the military operation will continue. my one cumberland says he doesn't think diplomacy stands a chance. do you see any avenue for de, escalating this conflict or any possible ways to end the crisis? diplomat, diplomatically limit the chances, certainly since so much damage has been done on the premium side as well in the civil military firm. so my stomach phones to buildings, rugs, and ukraine. i think he has simply increased we'll say, 2 weeks, 3 weeks ago. so i think it's to me difficult to come to the magic solution anyway, did you try to have a phone diplomatic solution with all the sanctions that hasn't boats, i say don't military call, haven't sanctions alone,

haven't been enough to make put in paul's the invasion and bring him to the negotiation. negotiating table in the humanitarian crisis, we're seeing is, is worsening. the conflict escalating are, you know, is, is europe considering other diplomatic options? are they other solutions on the table as far as the europeans and natal is concerned? and the reason people know, considering the cycle and all kinds of import from gas and oil from russia mold. but of course, that poses a problem. hoble, replace it because a dependency on garza know and imports for energy and european countries differs all of it. but if you look on your to baltic states, as a 100 percent, depends on gas alarm from russia. so it is extremely difficult to account for places all night on the other handler. as regards the sanctions like the financial sanction, sanction against the banks, the sanction against the only guard. you will only see the effects after a few days, or rather a few weeks or after a few months,

render as shinnecock gonzalez, trees. but those are those as fix. right. i mean, the europeans always seen from europe right now. i think there's any carriers they could all offer right now to moscow. why should they also go to law school as multiple started this conflict? i just don't know what kind of concession they should make to moscow, and not even evaluating a cray mauricio already does the whole debate about the north shore, where cray would like to have those eyes on what's the question. but of course, shouldn't, hasn't no way we can, we can do this so and done no savanski saying that is impossible to say you must help us. but europe is extremely, very, to be of all so much of this conflict, which he risks escalating and to an overall european war. right. and i have had her off, let me put that question to you that her car, jess asked. why should europe and nato offer any carriage to moscow right now? oh, i don't see that there is a chance for in a carol, but the single will be more and more states are,

are so far as i mentioned previously, very few chance that the military operation will be stopped. because r o u r has a very clear picture in front of you. you want zalinski, and so the government of your brain to resign. he wants to bring you government. he wants to change the constitution, make a little grain out of any of the 3 blocks for his. you knew that a friend though, of course, and of course he needs what he calls damien to zation of your grade. they're not si, fi cation of your grand, which is both, are very, very difficult. ok, well gentlemen, let's take a closer look at some of the mediators in this conflict. how france currently holds the rotating presidency of the european union before the invasion present. micron

took part in negotiations that led to the minsk agreement to secure a cease fire in east in ukraine. turkey has good political and economic ties with both ukraine and russia. ankara called the invasion unacceptable, but opposes sanctions against moscow. it's also sold drones to ukraine, angering the kremlin. israel also has long established ties with both countries, about 200000 jews live in ukraine, and some have already fled to israel as refugees. and israel relies on the kremlin to have horde, nate, security and syria. it also wants russia support for a tougher stance against iran's nuclear program. my one couple on let me come to you and talk about israel 1st and unexpected player. an unexpected new player in this crisis, at least we saw prime minister enough talley bennett fly to moscow. hold talks are with vladimir putin. what can israel bring to the table? is israel a potent mediator in this crisis? well, i mean, i don't, i don't feel like these, right is, or the turks,

or anybody actually can bring any magic solution to the cards is at this stage. but those are just, are playing actually to play, to be all and all of this because they are having good relations with ukraine and russia. and the, on the other hand, planning to push this, to be more aggressive requisition towards that towards russia is, are, as you strict, i mean, is having the best interest in keeping the competition with our shot. and yet, because i'm actually to go after the audience in that country, on the other hand, they are having also advise you with your cranium. presidents davinsky some of the close by the, by the actually the out of having a citizenship and also interested in protecting the jewels of korean

during the operation by, by our shop. so i think, i think it all trying here my one to, to have some leverage on the iran nuclear given that russia is involved in those negotiations. absolutely. and i think they already must have received the very positively that was yesterday when they demanded dot they are create a relationship with the by the us sanctions, if they are to, to go with the vibe. and then if you know that the nicholas deal with their, with the, i think this is something came like, like a gift out of the blue for days. and they, they believe that it might still be possible for what the nicholas used to be to be somehow get in. yeah. so of course, i mean, they have this interest with, with, with carolina russell french president emanuel micro has kept an open communication line with vladimir putin. his only easy,

one of the very few western leaders has done. so how can he make a difference using and can he make a difference? does put, does he have convincing? you know, a convincing method? nobody's the only on this method which micro, how does this, that bronze is the biggest problem in europe and putting only this is to power. but i think that the only thing because i don't think there's a lot of support at the moment and you know, for be talking routes which mac has got the food over the last 2 weeks and which has no effect. i mean, we know that this is almost nobody to fuel for its military. so that's why i wonder why micro is going up on top of that. what is that my role is he coordinating with other partners? i think he does so, but that's not really, he's not the missionary. he's the mr. needed approach. so we need to have the 1st, we're going to speak on behalf of all the same wavelength when it comes to,

to how to deal with put in are they all agreeing that the sanctions is what they should be doing? and that what they should insist on a just so sore and i think your beans are, we didn't be willing to do much more if you see we're all on the snowing out. them all on the polish, haiti, do russians. we know this is a long time, but overall if you cd to my facetious vehicle, imagine being articles over the last, like this weekend or the last weeks. it's clear that there's a strong support to take a very hard line against russian. okay, let me ask you are andrei in moscow about something college i said there does present, put in listen to anyone, you know, who would be a credible mediator to him in this crisis. right now we saw israeli prime minister in moscow. could israel b a, you know, a good broker in this crisis as far as rush as well? no, i don't think so though it was. so please the zalinski, who at the 1st stage of the conflict who proposed will make the conflicts wire

israel because zelinski himself is a jew and has miracles, relations. but oh, the problem is that for quote you, she doesn't pull any kind of rocker are between him and your grade. the problem is that are good. he doesn't want to have a piece deal. i mean the traditional way of understanding of her term. but she wants her capitulation of ukraine. he wants her step down or zalinski and this why are no broker? no, no one knows that aside, i can bring all this things to compromise. this is the difficult that concerning my crohn. i think a my personal opinion, but i think all his people talked i it's of the senseless aah! because she cannot play any serious role. and her also because ah ah,

i might say so because i've been here recently. i know the situation. he's not very much respected. the new brand new credit leadership. that's why she is not the guy who can make her some kind of agreement that separate separate. okay, what are your thoughts about best her con manual. oh, edo andras' has put in. doesn't want a piece deal. so where do we go from here? natal in says that ukraine's a sovereign country. we should have the right to decide whether it wants to be in nature or not. i mean how, how do we move on from this jennifer? it if thinking, no, i mean, i think it will be what we need to do as europeans, as if all the help support model support to be ukraine and army with ukraine of people at the station at the maximum possible without interfering into the war without opening the door to become a european over world war and others of course, at the moment, abrupt but the old. no, does he not already today?

ukraine has long the, the communication campaign of all this war. and also you crave has so much for them as the russian military done, the russians has ever expected. so once the bad news gets out into russia who but this war is advancing for the russians. right. it could change the teacher for, for a very tough. it's carl, i wanted to ask you about the, the natal issue. why is that so difficult for europe and end nato, to compromise on the issue of ukraine as seating to nato. does sovereignty mean that a country is free to make its own decision irrespective of the security of others? i mean, would the us, for example, allow mexico to have a security deal, a security alliance, or military alliance with russia or china? for example? nobody, not certainly you wasn't not allowed mexico. uh huh. last cuba crisis that night. so why should the ukrainians be at b. b allowed to be part of nato. if that's a main concern, i said, because for russia that would be

a challenge. and that's how it's been seen over the last 10 or 12 years with instruction 2008. when there was a possibility or some groups were advocating under the bush administration for trying to become a member of nato. we have seen that for b natal to defense ukraine against another rational. russia like today would be almost impossible because you couldn't have such a large country, which is also geographically positions very far towards the east. of course that is the rest of which is close to poland. checks for break. yes, as will make the architecture public for example, but that is the other part which is very hard to use and that is a problem for you. oh, good. the defense for europe underneath could be defined the contribute to so far to the east. for example, take the couldn't. anyway, we have see know the question. also ga, ga, asking for membership of the you, which also raise the question of them. also, membership eventually, or nato assault, can you go so far east? but i would say this is the one of the positive, but

a difficult to say also the development of the discretion. is that the support for you and the sport for you has grown enormously and only 2 weeks? well, let's talk about turkey. my one couple on another country which, which is supposed to be part of the european union, but it's not turkey playing it's card in this complex situation very closely. what can turkey bring to the table given its relations with both ukraine and russia? and what do you think is needed for a break fill here? but i think i'm being very little in my opinion as you, as your previous guess it. but as then put in or not accept, but the regime change in your korean and also getting or the guarantees that they will not be part of it. and you find in the future the terms actually because they're having all of this that this off, they don't want actually to be there in your korean because if there are schanzer gates that, that, that most of the course of the black sea that will, would be negatively impacting the security off of 30. but on the other hand,

i would like to actually to keep working relationship with the, with russia not one has been developed, especially in syria, but they are having also competitions in many places like in media and in, in ok. so the folks here are playing on one hand to keep the relationship with turkey with, with our shop. because we are also having the relationship with, with russia. the balance between the 2 countries at this year is expect last year actually was like $50000000000.00 is expected actually to rise. ok. so i think they ought to be there on one hand, trying to have this relationship relationship with our shop. on the other hand, they have a strong relationship. also with you with you. i'm actually a buyer. my 3rd should go on. let me ask you john, me one last question to each one of you. and very briefly, if you can,

starting with you andrew in moscow, what is needed for a breakthrough in this crisis. i can see only one way is a personal meeting present because this is the only way how the things might happen . but there are very, very few chances less than 20 percent that this meeting can take place. okay. your thoughts carolina would a personal meeting between zelinski and put in make any progress. i wonder for that because has also been both since you already heard about the whole kind of agreement, especially with our but i think i see what could change a bit of the picture. but also what it is is the chinese book of position remains study and probably she wanted to take position where he manages to temper the feeling that may make a change. all right. my one calon into what could change you think?

well, i think i think of meeting between food and, and joe biden might actually change things i don't think between put in an ascii is going to do anything i think, put in his, mainly interested and in the iraqis and us reaction in this crisis. because we are now these concerned that they might be a green mile, and i've got a number to russia that is very possible. so i think going to be a meeting between the 2. the 2 bit bowers could actually make a back door in this car. so more talks, more meetings needed. thank you very much gentlemen. for a very interesting discussion. andre fetterhoff, kyle, lana and my one catalog. and thank you for watching. you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash hey j. inside story. you can of course, also join the conversation on twitter. handle is

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