territorial defense units and treat the wounded. j says he trusts ukraine will let him go home to see his family and is unafraid. as he commits himself to a war that could go on for years. zane basra, the older 0 at the ukraine border in eastern poland. ah, this is al jazeera, these are the top stories ukrainian president vladimir zalinski has received a standing ovation from the british parliament after he delivered a speech by video link. it all them his people will never give up. did not meet the mood separate. dan is sham. all the question for us now is to be or not to be this expedient question, the witness. for 13 days, the question was asked, but now i can even definitive answer is definite. yes to be. i'd like to remind you of that by word that the u. k has already heard, which are important. so here again, we will not give up my,

we will not lose them what we will fight till an end at sea and in the air. we will continue to fight for our land, whatever the castles. we will fight in the forests in the fields on the shores in the streets. nobody you as president your biden's band, russian oil imports over moscow's invasion of ukraine. the u. s. is looking to replace russian oil with imports from other energy rich nations and investments in clean energy. but there's concerned the banner russian crude will push soaring gas prices even higher. the european union is planning to cut its dependence on russian gas by 2 thirds this year. the european commission has published wide ranging plans, which it says will end reliance on russian energy. well, before 2030 on james shell is stopping all purchases of russian crude oil and is apologized for buying oil from the country. last week. shell says its changing its supply chain as fast as possible and closing its service stations across the

country. ukraine is attempting to evacuate people from besieged areas that have felt the force of russian bombardment, but a convoy of buses and humanitarian aid vehicles. heading to mario paul has turned a round after reports of russians. shelling us is filled with civilians are leaving the northeastern city of sumi where fighting appears to have stopped an overnight air strike. they're killed at least 20 people, including 2 children and ukrainian officials are reporting more bombing in cities in the east and the center of the country. residential buildings came under fire overnight in the city of october, cal communications, lions in essential services like water and electricity supplies have also been damaged. the city's mayor has a power plants been destroyed along with much of the city sent home. there was, the headlines will be back in about 25 minutes after inside story. good bye. ah

. now g 0 with every oh rushes invasion of ukraine is in its 2nd week, some expected a quick victory. a mass goals, objectives being met. and how far is the west prepared to go in supporting ukraine militarily? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully battle. it's been nearly 2 weeks since russia's president launched the invasion of ukraine. vladimir putin vowed to demilitarize and de napster fi, the country, and protect civilians. he says,

have been subjected to abuse by ukraine's government in keith. a. here's what's happened so far. the u. s. based institute for the study of war says, russian forces have taken these areas in read. they control the city, of course on in the south, merrier poll and ukraine, 2nd city car, keith have been shout heavily. russian soldiers are trying to encircle the capital, keith, but ukrainian forces have slowed their advance for now. russian units are reported to be suffering from poor logistics and low morale and their face strong resistance from ukrainian soldiers out there is char stratford, reports from khaki. i city now invoice a man walked carefully down the street totally destroyed. russian bombs have ripped through these buildings and central car give. the area is silent and brutally scarred. shrapnel has ripped through cars, masonry, thrown in,

the blasts has crushed. others with flames still rise from buildings nearby on craters and twisted steel. this st in central cock, if shows you just how devastating the effects of russian bombing of the city has been on its higher st totally destroyed. where do these buildings have people's homes in of private residences, flats, some of them still smoking. one of the main things that many people here tell you is that they can in no way understand how the leader of a country like russia could do something like this. to a city like called kiff, teresa is in shock. she walks around in the days, looking at the destroyed businesses and homes are finished. up here.

i cannot think straight. i can't find the words. sprague, dutiful, it's barbaric, terrible. the world is shaking the can you hear you? i just don't understand. shrapnel has ripped through the golden spires. i'm an orthodox church. every windows smashed wonder ground metro stations is where many people hide. young and old stand patiently in line for food served by volunteers. bowl soup salad. bread elona and her 12 year old daughter. nastier show us the train carriage where

they've sheltered since their home was destroyed. she was to sidney nuts in us. it's dotted 12 days ago. our house was destroyed and which is night. we don't know where to live any more. i don't know where to go with my child. honestly, helpless. it is not. there are many here like us who have lost everything. them shit of their belongings and neatly arranged where they sleep. there are family pets here too. if she dos over this book, boy, i thought we would live peacefully and happiness united, but i was wrong. because in another carriage, we find 19 year old violetta and her baby son bogged on. he was born in hospital 2 days after the russian army invaded. it almost so difficult

every day we washed him upstairs. i'm so worried about him getting cold vladimir putin till the world repeatedly. russia would never invade ukraine. car cave is a terrified testimony to his lie. john strapped down to 0, caught a cave while russian president vladimir putin. in 5th, the operation is going to plan and says he won't call up conscript. so reserve choice. but your way leave your new job. i'd like to highlight that in the military action, no conscripted soldiers will be taking part, and we will not call for reserve. only professional military personnel will take part in the faction. and we will secure peace for all the people of russia. and russia has tightened reporting on the conflict parliament passed the law

threatening up to 15 years. jail for anyone can't spreading what the government calls fault information. facebook is blocked, tick tock, and netflix f suspended. most of our service. ah, well let spring in our guests now for 2 days shore in moscow. pavel falcon, how're who's defense and military analyst from oxford in the u. k. samuel romani, associate fellow at the royal united services institute for defense and security studies and from to lose france. battista or bear chief executive officer of predictor lab, an organization focusing on fighting this information. gentlemen, thank you all for being with us today on inside, sorry pavel in moscow. let me start with you. some russian analysts had said president putin had ordered a victory by march. the 2nd were now mid march and key. there's still standing. is the car fix going the way russia wants? are rushes war goals on track?

well, obviously not, and not only in russia, there are such predictions. the pentagon was saying that ukrainian organized resistance will all squared away collapse and 72 hours. that means and 3 days. and then of course, there could be guerrilla warfare, but or, or do organized a committee, a chain of command of ukrainian melcher will collapse, lo, it didn't the ukrainians, they're still very much fighting organized force. their staffs are working, the chain of command is intact. and naturally right now, i would say we are at the crescent of this conflict, because right now the russian advance has run out of steam. obviously why the jackal military run out of school. we think what have been the hurdles and challenges for this military? well, you know,

the great big article about that because there are still many things that went wrong. and so many things that were done wrongly by the russian military and political leadership. i mean, you can't answer it in the science a sound bite, but the bottom line is that the right now, our advance began advancing in directions are spreading out in different directions. they're not helping each other. the different parts of the russian operation much while the ukrainians can use oper. if wines from inside to bring suite forces from the north to south to a thick russian, a fight a military groupings, one by one. this. so this is a textbook for mila tree. a planning mistake and very grave mistake. center one. i don't know, the russia russian has right now. a very, very big standing army,

a regular army of at least a $107.00. the permanent back though, read d battalion, tactical groups, which is the law but doesn't have reserves, right? but i'm not the only rat recitals present putin has said he won't call a prisoner, they say, but they have been reports that they've already been involved in this conflict. what more can you tell us about this? not really. there is a small number of new style reservist as are paid money and they're kind of could be used already. they're part of some units, but they're not. many of them may be 15000 no more than the rest. our reserve is that there are service though. man, paper. they served once a year of compulsory service and then were never called up where retraining. you have to call them up if you want to call them up and then give them at least a former month, maybe 6 before trent retraining before they can be gone. and to verbal. if result were you, i mean you can be used the media so we have it's what we so we don't know when it's

her friends and let me just bring us and there were money into the conversation. i'll come back to you in a 2nd puzzle for more on the russian strategy, samuel romani. what is your assessment of how the war is going is put into military objective? is it being met as he claims? are they on track why i think the war is definitely following a blacking well behind where russia would want to be at this point, because russia was planning on a low hosta high impact operation that lee jill quick seizure of care. ideally, it wanted to wear cut, give off from the rest of ukraine to these, to see tactics and through the use of a mixture of our missiles, artillery bombings, and also with other objective was to landlord ukraine is, is she some of that objective by getting control over the city of curzon, but the mary, a poll corridor that links crimea to the rest of ukraine. so remains an area of open compet. the situation in northern northeastern ukraine also remains militarily stagnant over the past them each you hours. if the latest u. s. intelligence reports are to be believed. 60 mile convoy that's on his way to

heave remains an open target. that's basically just a stuck in inertia right now. how do you think the ukrainian military has been able to resist until now? or do you have any military a surprise many in part because the resilience of the ukrainian air force acts is something that many people have been surprised by the united states has. it says that the significant majority of ukrainian air force planes remain intact. the russians have argued the most of the core, ukrainian narrative bullies have been destroyed, but regardless, we've seen it remain resilient force. ukraine is also used effective as weaponry. that is she that is received from other countries. in particular has been effective in using barrack dirty b 2 drones from turkey, but has also been making good use of stan grandy tank missiles and other anti air and antea artillery systems that they received from western countries over the past 4 weeks. right. okay, let me come to you now. betty ho bath. some estimates by american officials claimed that ukrainian soldiers have killed some 3000 russian truce. is this credible

because there's a war going on, of course, but there's also an inflammation war it's, i mean, it's always complicated to take that off. she shall numbers as crazy as what we can say in, in, in what we can see on the networks and what we can a p there. if i, if that is a huge number of dead. so you're in both side for sure. and v she's not, as you said before, the, she's not the one who she wanted to have be, she's not spending as planned. and this is the same thing on the formation side of the information and the welfare we, we are seeing this is not function well planned by your lucia on. so i see why they do have a way doing which is all the information war. but right now,

who's winning the information? well, because there's also been a lot of propaganda from the ukrainian side. are the craniums willing the information war yes. for sure. in the fell face of the war going side is clearly we winning it because. 4 i mean, they do people and i'm very good stories. i mean, crazy don't. lynn is pretty good at communication. yes. you created your own persona. is great. right now like they were in europe. can you or your credit and for sure. for sure that we need of so phase because who show was not planned to have something on the on, on, on the long term prussia. this is why i'm so it works. at the moment. you can see a huge amount of video of, of poll you ukraine videos,

and you don't have so much pope, i don't that too much call the show content. at the moment. i'll ask people in a minute about how we apologize for interrupting you by piece. but i'll ask probably in a minute how the war is being viewed in russia within russia. but 1st, i want us to compare the invasion of ukraine with russia previous military engagements. in 190909, russia invaded chechnya for the 2nd time in 5 years. it stayed today was to quash chechnya. an armed forces trying to establish an islamic fate in russia's baggage on chechnya, as capital glossy was leveled in the fighting in 2008 russia ford a 12 day war with georgia. moscow occupied the breakaway regions of samples set. yeah. and up, cause yeah, thousands of russian soldiers are still there. 6 years later, russia annexed ukraine's crimean peninsula within a month and began supporting separatists in the east and rushes involvement,

inferiors. war from 2015 have turned the conflict in present mashaila fads favor battle. let me come to you now. when you look at the invasion of ukraine and compare it to gross me, for example. what do you think has hindered this russian operation? in particular, was it a lack of preparedness or a lack of equipment? you all morale being low a among russian troops as some have claimed louis, so he's in war. so it's a complicated picture and it's a bit of every of all of that. but then in the main strategic military mistake was that then changed. yeah. it was concentrated offensive for on the north from the east and from the west. a rush and groupings were converging on grows ne, uniting forces in the end to take the main point of enemy resistance in ukraine.

they're moving in different directions. they're not converging with each other. it's i know there is if they're trying to, i didn't know corral cat or something. they didn't believe parents. we believe that the queen would resist at all. i know it's hard to comprehend how such an operation was produced in the russian general staff. but it wasn't now we're stuck with it. and the russian p. r machine is working very good inside russia for the time being . but it's will begin to falter because the fact that russians advance this grind to a stop is obvious, or we ran out the reserves because we can send the troops from others. barts rush any more because they're still preparing. if there's will be an escalation into all european or global war while ukrainians are getting lots of reserves, they're mobilizing a total mobilization. so ukraine is stronger on the battlefield and they're giving money to fight this to get the suffered, then they're getting lots of arms from right. worse,

and so you crazy right now in the battle fields of you were on the ukrainian battlefields is getting stronger and russia is getting weaker. and that's really the real serious problem there. what the most, why say, is leave rest of this war. what do most russians, pavel believe about what's happening across the border? the narrative that the crammed in is putting out the now just let the majority of parents, if you're taking your plate, there's a rallying around the flag, a thing happening right now, of course, there are those who protest and protest though they're being arrested. but that's may be up to 30 percent of the population, maybe 30 percent of a fully support actively this campaign. the others are rather indifferent. but this is may change very quickly as western sanctions tank the russian economy. and the coming months of to half a year, the economy may so tank that there's going to be internal political repercussions booted and his grandma. now right now, in a pickle, sammy, we're money in oxford,

comparing this to previous ration engagements. whether in grass, neil, even syria, would you say the russian military has underperformed during this invasion? as some western military analysts have said, well, i think it certainly has under reformed in this invasion. that's definitely an area where one would be concerned. it's not just an under performance in terms of russia's ability to exercise a conventional capabilities during the 2008 georgian war, there were a lot of problems with supply chain shortages. there issues connecting a logistical and deb food other equipment to between different russian troops in different parts of the conflict survey showing you as a defense minister and latimer. putin bowed after that conflict to modernize the military and transformer. and what it appears as if brushes gotten is that they've gotten a lot more. busy sophisticated technology in their military, whether be higher grade hypersonic weapons will be higher grade. miss alice is some targeted events systems,

but they haven't figured out the core logistical dead difficulties that undermine them inside the georgia conflict. also is important to keep in mind. had russia has been used to operations, where they have local proxies and circuits like indiana going to hans in 2014, in 2015, the pro russian separatist militias or using air support with ground a backing like they been in syria. there aren't you spread to a large terrestrial offensive of this kind. and there in experience is starting to show when finally, the war has been a failure also from the front of other non military means of offensive operations like cybersecurity. it appears as if russia's been unable to debilitate the whining communications infrastructure is arbor attacks. and then now how would you resort to bombing them? whereas russia has been targeted by cyber attacks on numerous occasions. so it's been all around, i think, a military failure or on a minute. terry, family, a, you say batiste to news russia also use brutal tactics to level gross me for example. or even in aleppo in syria. i during the civil war, but this invasion in,

in, ah, ukraine, and you know that the leveling of khaki that we saw in chancery for surlier, it seems to have resonated more with people in the west in europe. in particular. why do you think that is these 12 is a little bit a differ from users because. 4 what we have to say is that at the moment internet, the internet is still up on, on the loud bulk of the, of you printing. and so a labs and number of people do have a cell phone on the film. every things i can do and all the video of the label and most in life on telecom networks on v c. the 1st we can see which is that lives at a live stream live tweeted on social networks on this. all the videos and the life fact checked on you have

a large community of internet east people are doing organ insurance which are. 4 analyzing these be able to verify everything you are looking like on. so this is to get complicated to live digits back. complicated to push young from pull from some information. so we still, we are seeing some, i don't wish to push to, to create a trend around the end of the supposed to be sure that we can see some, some operation on lucia on the, on, on some very specific case. for example, you can see some nice, some video. nice, nice leveled some, some force description, some stuff like this. but as you said, the main, the main part of what we, you can see on the internet at the moment is like,

you know, the still ok. a be good for from the show me let me try to. okay, let me come to pavel because we're almost running out of time travel. president putin has threatened, you know, invoking russia's nuclear arsenal as a warning to the united states and the west finish allies to stay out of this war. how do you see this conflict evolving now? we're now it's 2nd week. it's not a 2nd week where do things go from here? i'm believe the most drivable way is going to be a war of attrition in ukraine. and that's again, not that good at all because that will mean that the west supplies of war, materials and humanitarian supplies would be going over the border from poland. so i am andrew romanian. so and hungary and that russia will be saying that the war is continuing because of those supplies that has happened and many other wars in

algiers, in vietnam. and may begin the attacking the columns on the border or maybe even attacking over the border. that's already nato territory, so there is a possibility. what did war dragging on, but there's a possibility of escalation happening there. and that's the biggest danger. and that escalation could lead in the end to a possible nuclear use center manny in oxford. and sanctions alone haven't been enough so far. at least to make present coating pause. this invasion. can ukraine hold out on its own? what should western countries, what can they do to, to support ukraine? they've ruled and evolved out and no fly zone, of course. but what are the options are out there to give ukraine a fighting chance? well, i think that the western countries should really take action on some of the military assistance pledges that we've been talking about. the european union pledged warrenton $150000000.00 euros in terms of military assistance,

and that included the deployment of fighter jets. so the deal that poland is currently negotiating with the united states with regards to mit 29 transfers with us falling in the polish air force is a great step forward. as would be similar deals coming from bulgarians. lakia that would allow the ukraine air force to target stationary russian targets like the convoy that's on his way to give. so that's an important thing also more deployments event and year in anti missile defenses. those, particularly, if russia for simulating his tactics in aleppo in here would also be very helpful and war of support for cyber infrastructure, i think, would also be useful to like ukraine's a membership as an observer. now in the cyber native to try and say unit is a positive step and they should be more integrated there joe. ok. thank you so much gentlemen. for a very interesting discussion, paddle falcon, how're samuel romani, and batista all bear. and thank you as well for watching. you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at al jazeera dot com for further

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