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we're saying that this policy of engagement of the liberals of the past few years with north korea simply has a word and that we, what we should be doing here in north korea, or as far as he is concerned, is taking the much tougher line with north korea even mentioning the possibility of having a preemptive strike against north korea if they thought that north korea was about to launch missiles against the south. or i rob, thanks to that to robert, right there in so ah, so this is al jazeera, these are the top stories and that the civilian evacuation of the besieged port city mariposa has been cancelled for 3rd time empty buses trying to reach the city was seen turning around, falling reports of russian shelling along the humanitarian corridor. fighting north of cave is intensifying as russian forces pushed towards the city. ukrainian soldiers are helping evacuation efforts around the capitol. military expert,
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say russia could attack keep within days. poland says it's ready to deploy all its mig 29 fighter jets to the rams dinner base and germany, putting them at the disposal of the united states for the move has been described as untenable by washington. my cana has more from washington d. c. the pentagon spokesman, making very clear that there have been no discussions about actually transferring aircraft to us control by poland in recent weeks, the secretary of state. and to me blinking has confirmed that there were discussions on the way to find some way in which to back full polish aircraft, should it provide its air craft to ukraine. but clearly, at no stage, according to us officials was the question of the u. s. actually taking control physical control of transferring the aircraft ever discussed between the 2 countries. ukraine's president roadmap, zalinski has received a standing ovation from the british parliament during an address by video link from
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kiva. zalinski told parliamentarians that ukrainians would fight to the end against the russian invasion and asked the west to deploy more sanctions on moscow. you as president joe biden has announced the ban on russian oil and gas imports. the cables have been rushing watts. we have plans to fade out in ports by the end of the year. the move follows please by ukrainian president, vote him his lensky, to cut off moscow's energy exports. mcdonalds as temporarily closing its restaurants across russia and his stand against what it describes as the human suffering in ukraine. 30000 people turned up when the 1st restaurant opened in moscow in 1990. and one piece of other news voters in south korea going to the pole to choose the country's next president. unit j ins term is coming to an end. at a time when the country is facing a housing crisis, bleat, job opportunities, and an increase in missile testing from ne ri, north korea start headlines. small news coming up here or not, sir,
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right after inside story for how do you define a successful 1st here in charge of counseling, we bring you the stories and developments that are rapidly changing the world we're living. what do you think's been driving the volatility models? counting the cost on al jazeera, russia's invasion of ukraine is in its 2nd week, some expected, a quick victory, a moscow objectives being met. and how far is the west prepared to go in supporting ukraine militarily? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully battle. it's been nearly 2 weeks since
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russia's president launched the invasion of ukraine. vladimir putin vowed to demilitarize and de napster fi, the country and protect civilians. he says, have been subjected to abuse by ukraine's government in keith a. here's what's happened so far. the u. s. based institute for the study of war says, russian forces have taken these areas in read. they control the city, of course, on in the south, merrier poll and ukraine. second city, car keys have been shout heavily. russian soldiers are trying to encircle the capital. keith, but ukrainian forces have slowed their advance for now. russian units are reported to be suffering from poor logistics and low morale and their face. strong resistance from ukrainian soldiers, al jazeera is char stratford, reports from khaki. i city now invoice a man moved carefully down the street totally destroyed. russian bombs have ripped through these buildings in
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central car cave. the area is silent and brutally scarred. shrapnel has ripped through cars, masonry thrown in the blasts has crushed others with flames still rise from buildings nearby on craters and twisted steel. this street in central car cave shows you just how devastating the effect of russian bombing of the city has been in its higher st totally destroyed. where do these buildings have people's homes in of private residences, flats, some of them still smoking. one of the main things that many people here tell you is that they can in no way understand how the leader of a country like russia could do something like this to
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a city like calc. if teresa is in shock, she walks around in the days looking at the destroyed businesses and homes are finished up here. i cannot think straight. i can't find the words. sprague, dutiful, it's barbaric, terrible. the world is shaking the can you hear you? i just don't understand shrapnel has ripped through the golden spires and an orthodox church. every windows smashed wonder ground metro stations is where many people hide. young and old stand patiently in line for food served by volunteers. bowl soup salad. bread
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elona and her 12 year old daughter, nastier show us the train carriage where they've sheltered since their home was destroyed. she was did you know the name of it started 12 days ago. a house was destroyed and which is night. we don't know where to live any more. i don't know where to go with my child. honestly help us. it is not. there are many here like us who have lost everything. them shit of their belongings and neatly arranged where they sleep. there are family pets here too. if she dos over this book, boy, i thought we would live peacefully and happiness united, but i was wrong. because in another carriage,
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we find 19 year old violetta and her baby son bogged on. he was born in hospital 2 days after the russian army invaded it almost so difficult. every day we watched him up stairs. i'm so worried about him getting cold vladimir putin till the world repeatedly. russia would never invade ukraine. car cave is a terrified testimony to his lie. john stratford al jazeera, called a cave, while russian president vladimir putin insist the operation is going to plan and says he won't call up conscript reserved choice. but your way with your new job, i'd like to highlight that in the military action, no conscripted soldiers will be taking part. and we will not call for reserve. only professional military personnel will take part in the faction,
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and we will secure peace for all the people of russia. next year and russia has tightened reporting on the conflict parliament passed the law threatening up to 15 years jail for anyone caught spreading. what the government calls fault information . facebook is blocked, tick tock, and netflix f suspended most of our service. ah, well let's bring in our guests now for today's show in moscow, pavel falcon, how're, who's defense and military analyst from oxford in the u. k. samuel romani, associate fellow at the royal united services institute for defense and security studies, and from to lose france. battista or bear chief executive officer of predictor lab and organization focusing on fighting this information. gentlemen, thank you all for being with us today on inside story. pavel in moscow, let me start with you. some russian analysts had said president putin had ordered a victory by march. the 2nd were now mid march and key is still standing.
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is the car fix going the way russia wants? are rushes war, golds on track? well, obviously not, and not only in russia, there are such predictions. the pentagon was saying that ukrainian organized resistance will all squared away collapse and 72 hours. that means and 3 days. and then of course, there could be guerrilla warfare, but or, or do organized a committee, a chain of command of ukrainian melcher will collapse, lo, it didn't the ukrainians, they're still very much fighting organized force. their staffs are working, the chain of command is intact. and naturally right now, i would say we are at the crescent of this conflict, because right now the russian advance has run out of steam. obviously why the jackal military run out of school. we think what have been the
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hurdles and challenges for this military? well, you know, the great big article about that because there are still many things that went wrong. and so many things that were done wrongly by the russian military and political leadership. i mean, you can't answer it in the science a sound bite, but the bottom line is that the right now, our advance began advancing in directions are spreading out in different directions. they're not helping each other. the different parts of the russian operation much while the ukrainians can use oper if wines from inside to bring sweep forces from the north to south to a thick russian, a fight a military groupings. one by one there. so this is a textbook for f, a miller tree, a planning mistake, and
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a very grave mistake center. well, so the russia russian has right now a very, very big standing army, a regular army of at least a $107.00. the permanent backdoor red d battalion, tactical groups, which is the law but doesn't have reserves, right. but i'm not the only route of roles present. putin has said he won't call a prisoner, they say, but they have been reports that they've already been involved in this conflict. what more can you tell us about this? not really. there is a small number of new style reservist as are paid money and they're kind of could be used already. they're part of some units, but they're not. many of them may be 15000 no more than the rest. our reserve is that there are service though. man, paper. they served once one year of compulsory service and then were never called up where retraining. you have to call them up if you want to call them up and then give them at least 4 months,
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maybe 6 before trent retraining before they can be gone. and to verbal. if result were you, i mean you can be used immediately. so we have it's we, so we don't know when is her friends and let me just bring us on the remaining to the conversation. i'll come back to you in a 2nd puzzle for more on the russian strategy, samuel romani. what is your assessment of how the war is going? is put ins, military objective? is it being met as he claims? are they on track? why i think the war is definitely following a blacking well behind where russia would want to be at this point, because russia was planning on a low hosta high impact operation heavily jill quick seizure of care. ideally, it wanted to wear cut, give off from the rest of ukraine to these, to see tactics and through the use of a mixture of our missiles, artillery bombings, and also with other objective was to landlord ukraine is, is she some of that objective by getting control over the city of curzon, but the mary, a poll corridor that links crimea to the rest of ukraine. so remains an area of
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open compet. the situation in northern northeastern ukraine also remains militarily stagnant over the past them each you hours. if the latest u. s. intelligence reports are to be believed. 60 mile convoy that's on his way to heave remains an open target. that's basically just a stuck in inertia right now. how do you think the ukrainian military has been able to resist until now? or do you have any military, a surprise? many in part because of the resilience of the ukrainian air force acts is something that many people have been surprised by the united states. has. it says that the significant majority of ukrainian air force planes remain intact. the russians have argued the most of the core, ukrainian narrative bullies have been destroyed, but regardless, we've seen it remain resilient force. ukraine is also used effective as weaponry. that is she that is received from other countries. and particular has been effective in using barrack dirty b 2 drones from turkey, but has also been making good use of stan grandy, hank missiles and other anti air and antea artillery systems that they received from western countries over the past 4 weeks. right. okay, let me come to you now,
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betty. so bad. some estimates by american officials claim that ukrainian soldiers has killed some 3000 russian truce. is this credible because there's a war going on, of course, but there's also an inflammation war it's, i mean, it's always complicated to take that off. she shall number's creed, you know, what we can say in, in, in what we can see and networks and what we can a p there. if i, if that is a huge number of dead. so you're in both side for sure. and she's not, as you said before, you, she's not the one who shall want you to have be, she's not spending as planned. and this is the same thing on the formation side of the information and the welfare we,
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we are seeing this is not function well planned by your lucia on. so i see why they do have a way doing which is all the information war. but right now, who's winning the information? well, because there's also been a lot of propaganda from the ukrainian side. are the craniums willing the information war? yes. for sure. in the 1st phase of the war going in side is clearly we winning it because. 4 i mean, they do people. i'm very good stories. i mean, crazy don't. lynn is pretty good at communication. yes. you created your own persona. is great. right now like their role in your pin you or your credit and for sure. for sure that we need. because who show was not planned to have something on the, on, on, on the long term prussia. this is why i'm so it works at the moment. you can see
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a huge amount of video of, of poll you ukraine videos. and you don't have so much. pope, i don't that too much call the show content at the moment. i'll ask people in a minute about how i apologize for interrupting you by piece. but i'll ask pavel in a minute how the war is being viewed in russia within russia. but 1st, i want us to compare the invasion of ukraine with russia's previous military engagements. in 190909, russia invaded chechnya for the 2nd time in 5 years. it fade today was to quash chechnya, an armed forces trying to establish an islamic fate in russia's baggage on chechnya, as capital quantity was leveled in the fighting in 2008 russia ford a 12 day war with georgia. moscow occupied the breakaway regions of top with set. yeah. and up, cause yeah,
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thousands of russian soldiers are still there. 6 years later, russia annexed ukraine's crimean peninsula within a month and began supporting separatists in the east and rushes involvement inferiors. war from 2015 have turned the conflict in present mashaila fads favor. battle. let me come to you now. when you look at the invasion of ukraine and compare it to gross me, for example, what do you think has hindered this russian operation in particular? was it a lack of preparedness, or a lack of equipment? you all morale being low a among russian troops as summers claimed, as in war. so it's a complicated picture and that's a bit of every of all of that. but then in the main strategic military mistake was, that then changed. yeah. it was concentrated offensive for on the north, from the east and from the west. a rush and groupings were converging on grows ne,
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uniting forces in the end to take the main point of enemy resistance in ukraine. they're moving in different directions. they're not converging with each other. it's i know there is if they're trying to, i didn't know corral cat or something. they didn't believe parents. we believe that the queen would resist at all. i know it's hard to comprehend how such an operation was produced in the russian general staff. but that wasn't now, we're stuck with it, and the russian p. r machine is working very good inside russia for the time being . but it's will begin to falter because the fact that russians advance this grind to a stop is obvious, or we ran out the reserves because we can send the troops from others. barts rush any more because they're still preparing. if there's will be an escalation into all european or global war while ukrainians are getting lots of reserves, they're mobilizing a total mobilization. so ukraine is stronger on the battlefield and they're giving
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money to fight this to get the suffered, then they're getting lots of arms from right with. and so you crazy right now in the battle fields of you were on the ukrainian battlefields is getting stronger and russia is getting weaker. and that's really the real serious problem there. what the most, why say is leave rest of this war? what do most russians, pavel believe about what's happening across the border? the narrative that the crammed in is putting out the now just let the majority of parents, if you're taking your plate, there's a rallying around the flag, a thing happening right now. of course, there are those who protest and protest though they're being arrested. but that's may be up to 30 percent of the population, maybe 30 percent of a fully support actively this campaign. the others are rather indifferent. but this is may change very quickly as western sanctions tank the russian economy. and the coming months of to half a year,
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the economy may so tank that there's going to be internal political repercussions booted and his grandma. now right now, in a pickle, samuel, we're money in oxford, comparing this to previous ration engagements, whether in grass, neil, even syria, would you say the russian military has underperformed during this invasion? as some western military analyst had said, well, i think it certainly has under reformed in this invasion. that's definitely an area where one would be concerned as not just under performance in terms of rushes ability to exercise a conventional capabilities. during the 2008 georgian war, there were a lot of problems with supply chain shortages. there issues connecting a logistical and deb food other equipment to between different russian troops in different parts of the conflict survey showing you as a defense minister and latimer. putin bowed after the conflict to modernize the military and transformer. and what it appears as if brushes gotten is that they've
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gotten a lot more. busy sophisticated technology in their military, whether be higher grade hypersonic weapons will be higher grade. miss alice is some targeted events systems, but they haven't figured out the core logistical dead difficulties that undermine them inside the george and conflict. also is important to keep in mind. had russia has been used to operations, where they have local proxies and circuits like indiana going to hans in 2014, in 2015. the pro russian separate is malicious or using air support with ground a backing like they been in syria. there aren't, you spread to a large terrestrial offensive of this kind, and their experience is starting to show. and finally, the war has been a failure also from the front of other non military means of offensive operations like cybersecurity. it appears as if russia's been unable to debilitate the whining communications infrastructure is arbor attacks. and then now how would you resort to bombing them? whereas russia has been targeted by cyber attacks on numerous occasions. so it's been all around, i think, a military failure or on a minute. terry, family, a, you say batiste to news russia also use brutal tactics to level gross me for
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example. or even in aleppo in syria. i during the civil war, but this invasion in, in, ah, ukraine, and you know that the leveling of khaki that we saw in chancery for surlier, it seemed to have resonated more with people in the west, in europe. in particular. why do you think that is these 12 is a little bit a differ from users because. 4 what we have to say is that at the moment internet, the internet is still up on, on the loud bulk of the, of you printing. and so a labs and number of people do have a cell phone on film, everythings, i can do all the video of the label and most in life on telecom networks on v c. the 1st we can see which is that lives at a live stream live tweeted on social networks on these all videos and the life
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fact checked on you have a large community of ocean internet, east people are doing or can you can you drink, which are. 4 analyzing these be able to verify everything you are looking like on. so this is to get complicated to lie, digit supercomputer katie, to push young from pull from some information. so we still, we are seeing some, i don't wish to push to, to create a trend around the end of the supposed to be shown that we can see some, some operation from lucia on the, on, on some very specific case. for example, you can see some nice, some video. nice, nice leveled some, some force description, some stuff like this. but as you said, the main, the main part of what we,
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you can see on the internet at the moment is like, you know, he still okay. a be good for from the show me let me try to. okay, let me come to pavel because we're almost running out of time travel. president putin has threatened, you know, invoking russia's nuclear arsenal as a warning to the united states and the west finished allies to stay out of this war . how do you see this conflict evolving now? we're now it's 2nd we get now is 2nd week. where do things go from here? i'm believe the most probable way is going to be a war of attrition in ukraine. and that's again, not that good at all because that will mean that the west supplies of war, materials and humanitarian supplies would be going over the border from poland. so
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i am andrew romanian. so and hungary and that russia will be saying that the war is continuing because of those supplies that have happened and many other wars and algiers in vietnam. and may begin the attacking the columns on the border or maybe even attacking over the border. that's already nato territory, so there is a possibility. what did war dragging on, but there's possibility of escalation happening there. and that's the biggest danger, and that escalation could lead in the end to a possible nuke where use center manny in oxford. and sanctions alone haven't been enough so far. at least to make present. put in pause this invasion. can ukraine hold out on its own? what should western countries, what can they do to, to support ukraine? they've ruled and evolved out and no fly zone, of course. but what are the options are out there to give ukraine a fighting chance?
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well, i think that the western countries should really take action on some of the military assistance pledges that we've been talking about. the european union pledge squandered w5xw euros in terms of military assistance. and that included the deployment of fighter jets. so the deal that poland is currently negotiating with the united states with regards to am, i. d, 29 transfers with us falling in the polish air force is a great step forward as would be similar deals coming from bulgarians. lakia that would allow the ukraine air force to target stationary russian targets like the convoy that's on his way to give. so that's an important thing also more deployments event and year in anti missile defenses. those, particularly, if russia for simulating his tactics in aleppo in here would also be very helpful and war of support for cyber infrastructure, i think, would also be useful to like ukraine's a membership as an observer. now in the cyber native to try and say unit is a positive step and they should be more integrated there joe. ok. thank you so much gentlemen. for a very interesting discussion, paddle falcon, how're samuel romani,
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