says will be if they could, once again survive in the wild and without help. elizabeth per item al jazeera was taken more than a 100 years, but the rec, b and topic explorer. shackleton's ship has fine even found. endurance sank off to being crushed by pack ice back in 1915. it was discovered that a depth of more than 3000 meters in the weather will feed off the antarctic coast. the operation has been touted as the most challenging shipwreck such ever undertaken. ah, sources algebra, these your top stories, air raid sirens, have been heard in the cranium capital key hours before russia announced another humanitarian see. previous attempts have been marked by violations. russia says your profession is going as planned. evacuation of civilians from ukraine's proceed

50 of me is continuing for a 2nd day or the 5000 people have been moved out since tuesday. 6 evacuation roots have been agreed with russia. latasha butler has moved from the ukranian authority . i have confirmed that there is a humanitarian corridor, has been set up from the city of sue me in the north. that is to the east of the capital, a key not to the city of about a quarter of a 1000000 people on tuesday, people already began to be evacuated from that city. around 5000 people were able to leave. we understand they then headed south and then they are able to go where they wish you'd imagine on the west and own perhaps the border in countries like poland, hungry, or romania, russia's foreign ministry. and 5th progress is being made to provide humanitarian relief for i would have to eat be to go to suppress guest unless there are also negotiations with the ukrainian side to try and avoid bloodshed. and the 3rd round

of these talks have finished political and humanitarian issues. were discussed, the humanitarian corridor was discussed about 2000000 people have now addressed russia with a request for protection and a 140000 people have gone into russia. the u. k is unveiled a ralph to tough new sanctions against russia's ation industry. the country will now have the power to detain any russian aircraft. and by next bullets, the variation of space related goods will also be a criminal offense for russian cross to fly or land in the u. k. that includes those owned operated, all chanted by anyone connected with most good russia central bank has tightened foreign currency restrictions happening with rules at $10000.00 in order to stop selling hard currency. as the headline news continues here, and also there are story or china in the u. s. sleep walking their way to war in the struggle over ukraine. here's the test for president joe

biden whitman is really trying to do is rewrite the security architecture in europe . is personally lighted, so you seriously are walking through gum at the same time, your weekly pay on us politics and society. that's the bottom line. russia's invasion of ukraine is in its 2nd week, some expected, a quick victory, a mass goals, objectives being met. and how far is the west prepared to go in supporting ukraine militarily? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully battle. it's been nearly 2 weeks since russia's president launch the invasion of ukraine. vladimir putin vowed to demilitarize and de napster fi, the country, and protect civilians. he says,

have been subjected to abuse by ukraine's government in keith. a. here's what's happened so far. the u. s. based institute for the study of war says, russian forces have taken these areas in read. they control the city, of course on, in the south, merrier pole, and ukraine. second city, car keys have been shout heavily. russian soldiers are trying to encircle the capital, keith, but ukrainian forces have slowed their advance for now. russian units are reported to be suffering from poor logistics and low morale and their face strong resistance from ukrainian soldiers. alger serious char stratford reports from khaki. i city now invoice a man walked carefully down the street totally destroyed. russian bombs have ripped through these buildings and central car cube. the area is silent and brutally scarred. shrapnel has ripped through cars,

masonry, thrown in the blasts has crushed. others with flames still rise from buildings nearby on craters and twisted steel. this street in central cock, if shows you just how devastating the effect of russian bombing of the city has been. and its higher st totally destroyed. where do these buildings have people's homes in of private residences, flats, some of them still smoking. one of the main things that many people here tell you is that they can in no way understand how the leader of a country like russia could do something like this. to a city like called kiff, teresa is in shock. she walks around in a days looking at the destroyed businesses and homes are finished. up here.

i cannot think straight. i can't find the words spread cutover. it's barbaric, terrible. the world is shaking the can you hear you? i just don't understand. shrapnel has ripped through the golden spires and an orthodox church. every windows smashed wonder ground metro stations is where many people hide. young and old stand patiently in line for food served by volunteers. bowl soup salad. bread elona and her 12 year old daughter. nastier show us the train carriage where

they've sheltered since their home was destroyed. she was to sit in at the nymph unless it's dotted 12 days ago. our house was destroyed and which is nice, but we don't know where to live any more. i don't know where to go with my child. honestly help us. it is no. there are many here like us who have lost everything. them citizens, their belongings and neatly arranged where they sleep. there are family pets here to you. have she doors who this is full? i thought we would live peacefully and happiness. united but i was wrong in the carriage, we find 19 year old violetta and her baby son bogged on he was born in hospital 2 days after the russian army invaded tissue. it almost had so difficult

for every day we washed him up stairs. i'm so worried about him getting cold. vladimir putin told the world repeatedly, russia would never invade ukraine. car cube is a terrified testimony to his lie, jaw stratford, al jazeera, called cave. while russian president vladimir putin insist, the operation is going to plan and says, he won't call up conscript sort reserve troops, which if we lived yeast, you knew jeff, i'd like to highlight that in the military action, no conscripted soldiers will be taking part of it and we will not call for reserves, only professional military personnel will take part in these actions and we will secure peace for all the people of russia. and, you know, you and russia has tightened reporting on the conflict. parliament passed the law

threatening after 15 years jail for any one caught spreading. what the government calls false information. facebook is blocked. tick tock, and netflix f suspended more severe services. ah, well let's bring in our guests now for today's show in moscow. pavel falcon, how're, who's defense and military analyst from oxford in the u. k. samuel romani, associate fellow at the royal united services institute for defense and security studies, and from to lose france. battista or bear chief executive officer of predictor lab and organization focusing on fighting this information. gentlemen, thank you all for being with us today on inside. sorry pavel in moscow, let me start with you. some russian analysts had said president putin had ordered a victory by march. the 2nd were now mid march and key. there's still standing. is the car fix going the way russia wants? are rushes war, golds on track?

well, obviously not, and not only in russia, there are such predictions. the pentagon was saying that ukrainian organized resistance will most likely collapse in 72 hours. that means and 3 days. and then of course, there could be guerrilla warfare, but or, or do organized a committee, a chain of command of ukrainian melcher will collapse, lo, it didn't the ukrainians, they're still very much fighting organized force. their staffs are working, the chain of command is intact. and naturally right now, i would say we are at the crescent of this conflict, because right now the russian advance has run out of steam. obviously why the jackal military run out at school. we think what have been the hurdles and challenges for this military? well, you know,

the great big article about that because there are still many things that went wrong. and so many things that were done wrongly by the russian military and political leadership. i mean, you can't answer it in the science a sound bite, but the bottom line is that the right now, our advance began advancing in directions are spreading out in different directions. they're not helping each other. the different parts of the russian operation much while the ukrainians can use oper. if wines from inside to bring sweep forces from the north to south to a thick russian, a fight a military groupings, one by one. there. so this is a textbook for mila tree. the planning mistake and very grave mistake center. well, so the russian russian has right now a very, very big standing army,

a regular army of at least a $107.00. the permanent back though, read the battalion tactical groups, which is the law, but doesn't have reserves, right? but i'm not the only route of resign roles present. putin has said he won't call a prisoner, they say, but they have been reports that they've already been involved in this conflict. what more can you tell us about this? not really. there is a small number of new style reservist as are paid money and they're kind of could be used already. they're part of some units, but they're not, many of them may be 15000 no more than the rest. our reserve is that there are service though, man, paper. they served once a year of compulsory service and then were never called up where retraining. you have to call them up if you want to call them up and then give them at least a former month, maybe 6 before train retraining before they can be gone. and to bundle of result were you. i mean, you can be used the media,

so we have it's what we so we thought now minutes her friends, and let me just bring us and there were money into the conversation. i'll come back to you in a 2nd puzzle for more on the russian strategy, samuel romani. what is your assessment of how the war is going? is putins military objective? is it being met as he claims? are they on track why i think the war is definitely following a lagging well behind where russia would want to be at this point, because russia was planning on a low hosta high impact operation heavily jill quick seizure of care. ideally, it wanted to wear cut, give off from the rest of ukraine to these, to see tactics and through the use of a mixture of our missiles, artillery bombings, and also with other objective was to landlord ukraine is, is she some of that objective by getting control over the city of curzon, but the mary, a poll corridor that links crimea to the rest of ukraine. so remains an area of open compet. the situation in northern northeastern ukraine also remains militarily stagnant over the past them each you hours. if the latest

u. s. intelligence reports are to be believed. 60 mile convoy that's on his way to heave remains an open target. that's basically just a stuck in inertia right now. how do you think the ukrainian military has been able to resist until now or the ukrainian military? a surprise many in part because of the resilience of the ukrainian air force acts is something that many people have been surprised by the united states has. it says that the significant majority of ukrainian air force planes remain intact. the russians have argued the most of the core, ukrainian narrative bullies have been destroyed, but regardless, we've seen it remain resilient force. ukraine is also used effective as weaponry. that is she that is received from other countries. and particular has been effective in using barrack dirty b 2 drones from turkey, but has also been making good use of stan grandy tank missiles and other anti air and antea artillery systems that they received from western countries over the past 4 weeks. right. okay, let me come to you now. betty ho bath. some estimates by american officials claimed that ukrainian soldiers have killed some 3000 russian truce. is this credible

because there is a war going on, of course, but there is also an inflammation war it's, i mean, it's always complicated to take that off, shall numbers, creed, you know, what we can say in, in, in what we can see on the networks and what we can a p there, if i, if that is a huge number of dead. so you're in both side for sure. and v. she's not, as you said before, the, she's not the one who shall want you to, to have be, she's not spending as planned. and this is the same thing on the formation side of the information and the welfare we, we are seeing this is not function well planned by your lucia on. so i see why they do have a way doing which is all the information war. but right now,

who's winning the information? well, because there's also been a lot of propaganda from the ukrainian side of the gradients winning the information war. yes, for sure. in the 1st phase of the war in side is clearly we winning it because. 4 i mean, they do people. i'm very good stories. i mean, crazy don't. lynn is pretty good at communication. yes. you created your own persona. is great. right now alike and their role in your pin you or your credit and for sure. for sure that we need. because who show was not planned to have something on the, on, on, on the long term prussia. this is why i'm so it works at the moment. you can see a huge amount of video of, of poll you ukraine videos. and you don't have so much.

pope, i don't that too much call the show content at the moment. i'll ask people in a minute about how i apologize for interrupting you by piece. but i'll ask pavel in a minute how the war is being viewed in russia within russia. but 1st, i want us to compare the invasion of ukraine with russia's previous military engagements. in 1999, russia invaded chechnya for the 2nd time in 5 years. it stayed today was to quash chechnya, an armed forces trying to establish an islamic fate in russia's august on chechnya, as capital glossy was leveled in the fighting in 2008 russia ford a 12 day war with georgia. moscow occupied the breakaway regions of samples set. yeah. and up, cause yeah, thousands of russian soldiers are still there. 6 years later, russia annexed ukraine's crimean peninsula within a month and began supporting separatists in the east and rushes involvement

inferiors. war from 2015 have turned the conflict in prison by charlotte funds favor battle. let me come to you now. when you look at the invasion of ukraine and compare it to gross me, for example, what do you think has hindered this? russian operation in particular, was it a lack of preparedness or a lack of equipment, your morale being low a among russian troops as some exclaimed, well, it's always in war. so is a complicated picture and it's a bit of every of all of that. but then the main strategic military mistake was that then changed. yeah. it was concentrated offensive for on the north, from the east and from the west. a rush and groupings were converging on gross me and uniting forces in the end to take the main point of enemy resistance in ukraine

. they're moving in different directions. they're not converging with each other. it's i know there is if they're trying to, i didn't know corral cat or something. they didn't be a guarantee. i believe that ukraine would resist at all. i know it's, it's hard to comprehend how such an operation was produced in the russian general staff. but that was the now we're stuck with it and the russian p. r machine is working very good inside russia for the time being. but it's will begin to falter because the fact that russians advances grind to a stop is obvious, or we ran out the reserves because we can send of troops from others. parts rush any more because they're still preparing. if there's will be an escalation into all european or global war while ukrainians are getting lots of reserves, they're mobilizing a total mobilization. so ukraine is stronger on the battlefield and they're giving money to fight this, get this effort than they're getting lots of arms from right west. and so are you

crazy right now in the battle fields of you were on the ukrainian battlefields is getting stronger and russia is getting weaker. and that's really the real serious problem there. what the most, why since the rest of this war, what do most russians, pavel believe about what's happening across the border, the narrative that the kremlin is putting out the knowledge of metals majority apparently is we're taking it they, there's a rallying around the flag, a thing happening right now, of course, there are those who protest and protest though they're being arrested, but that's may be up to 30 percent of the population may be 30 percent of a fully support actively this campaign. the others are rather indifferent. but this is may change very quickly as western sanctions tank the russian economy. and the coming months of to half a year. the economy may so tank that there's going to be internal political repercussions booted and his grandma. not right now in a pickle, samuel,

we're money in oxford, comparing this to previous russian engagements. whether in cross neil, even syria, would you say the russian military has underperformed during this invasion? as some western military analyst had said, well, i think it certainly has under reformed in this invasion. that's definitely an area where one would be concerned. it's not just an under performance in terms of russia's ability to exercise a conventional capabilities during the 2008 georgian war. there were a lot of problems with supply chain shortages. there issues connecting ab logistical and deb food, other equipment to between different russian troops and different parts of the conflict survey showing you as a defense minister and latimer. putin bowed after that conflict to modernize the military and transformer. and what it appears as if russia's gotten is that they've gotten a lot more. busy sophisticated technology in their military, whether be higher grade hypersonic weapons will be higher grade. miss alice is some targeted event systems,

but they haven't figured out the core logistical dead difficulties that undermine them inside the george and conflict. also is important to keep in mind. had russia has been used to operations, where they have local proxies and circuits like indiana going to hans in 2014, in 2015. the pro russian separate is malicious or using air support with ground a backing like they've been in syria. there aren't you spread to a large terrestrial offensive of this kind, and their experience is starting to show. and finally, the war has been a failure also from the front of other non military means of, of, hence, of operations like cybersecurity. it appears as if russia's been unable to debilitate the whining communications infrastructure is arbor attacks. and then now how would you resort to bombing them? whereas russia has been targeted by cyber attacks on numerous occasions. so it's been all around, i think, a military failure or on a monetary family, a, you say batiste to news. russia also use brutal tactics to level gross me, for example, or even a, an epo in syria. i during the civil war. but this invasion in, in, ah, ukraine,

and you know that the leveling of khaki that we saw in chancery for surlier, it seemed to have resonated more with people in the west, in europe. in particular. why do you think that is? these 12 is a little bit a differ from the o because. 4 what we have to say is up at the moment in time and the internet is still up on, on the latch part of the, of you printing. and so a labs and number of people do have a cell phone on film, everythings, i can do all the video of the label and most in life on to the current source and it was on v c. the 1st we can see which is that lives at a live stream live tweeted on social networks on this. all the videos and the life fact checked on. you have

a large community of internet east be part of the open source. you can even which are. 4 analyzing these be able to verify everything you are looking like on. so this is to get complicated to lie, digit, super complicated to push young from pull from some information. so we still, we are seeing some done on the chart to push to to create a trend or runs the gym by the end of the supposed to be shown that we can see some, some operation from lucia on the, on, on some very specific case for example, you can see some nice, some video. nice, nice leveled some, some force description, some stuff like this. but as you said, the main main part of what we, you can see on the internet at the moment is like,

you know, you still okay, a be good for me. let me try to. okay, let me come to pavel because we are almost running out of time travel. president putin has threatened, you know, invoking russia's nuclear arsenal as a warning to the united states and the west finished allies to stay out of this war . how do you see this conflict evolving now we're now it's 2nd we get now is 2nd week. where do things go from here? i'm believe the most probable way is going to be a war of attrition in ukraine. and that's again, not that good at all because that will mean that the west supplies of war, materials and humanitarian supplies would be going over the border from poland. so i am andrew romanian. so and hungary and that russia will be saying that the war is continuing because of those supplies that has happened and many other wars in

algiers, in vietnam. and may begin the attacking the columns on the border or maybe even attacking over the border. that's already nato territory, so there is a possibility. what did war dragging on, but there's a possibility of escalation happening there. and that's the biggest danger. and that escalation could lead in the end to a possible nuclear use center manny in oxford. and sanctions alone haven't been enough so far. at least to make present, put in pause. this invasion. can ukraine hold out on its own? what should western countries, what can they do to, to support ukraine? they've ruled and evolved out and no fly zone of course. but what are the options are out there to give ukraine a fighting chance? well, i think that the western countries should really take action on some of the military assistance pledges that we've been talking about. the european union pledged wondered, $150000000.00 euros in terms of military assistance,

and that included the deployment of fighter jets. so the deal that poland is currently negotiating with the united states with regards to am, i. d 29 transfers with us fully in the polish air force is a great step forward, as would be similar deals coming from bulgarians. lakia that would allow the ukraine air force to target stationary russian targets like the convoy that's on his way to give. so that's an important thing also more deployments event and year and anti missile defense systems regularly. if russia for simulating his tactics in aleppo in here would also be very helpful. and war of support for cyber infrastructure, i think, would also be useful to like ukraine's a membership as an observer. now in the cyber nater to try and say unit is a positive step and they should be more integrated there. joe. ok. thank you so much gentlemen. for a very interesting discussion, paddle falcon, how're samuel romani, and batista all there. and thank you as well for watching. you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at al jazeera dot com for

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