punk rock, the cranium, band baton, have reworked the crashes, hit london calling to highlight what's happening in their homeland now. oh, here calling, which has been recorded me. the frontline has lyrics the call on the rest of the world to support ukraine in its fight against russia. the hoping to use the song to raise funds for the free ukraine resistance. but ah, it's good to have you with us. hello adrian, sitting here in doha, the headlines on al jazeera, the city council, in the port city of mario poll, says that russia has bombed an art school where people were taking shelter. they say that $400.00 were in the building at the time. russia has increased its attacks on the southern port city, which it sees as vital to the success of its invasion. ukraine's president followed him as lensky has accused washing troops of committing war crimes. their lookout,

me might be open to do this to a peaceful city. what the occupiers did to it is a terror that will be remembered for centuries to come, and the more ukrainians tell the world about it, the more support we find, the more russia uses terror against ukraine. the worst, the consequences will be. chechen fighters are battling with ukrainian forces in the city of maria pull. a criminal back leader of chechnya claimed that his fight as a leading the offensive thousands of people. so sheltering and bunkers there, officials in mary up also the ball than 39000 people fled in the last week. russia is targeting the southern port city, which as we said, is considered vital to the success of its invasion. russia is once again used hypersonic missiles to attack ukraine. a spokesman for russia's ministry of defense as the military targets were hit. cruise missiles, also targeted facilities, repairing ukrainian, armored vehicles that have been damaged in combat operations at large. if not those

nonprofit, the hypersonic dagger missiles destroyed a large fuel depot, used by ukraine's armed forces near the village of constantino kinds of marketing with the main supplies of fuel for ukraine's army vehicles in the south were carried out there. the high precision miss. i live, instruct the training center good for you. green special forces or foreign mercenaries, were based in car cave and rescue in the eastern ukraine rescue. workers have been searching for survivors in the ruins. buildings. russian forces relentlessly targeted the city. since the start of the invasion in the capital key of dozens of babies, baldessari gets awaiting to be collected from a makeshift nursery. their parents are either unable to travel or not willing to risk the journey. the babies are sheltering in a basement. those were headlines that he's continues here now to sierra, after today's inside story. coming up next from the front lines, altos areas, correspondence continue to report every angle of the war in ukraine. there is

a humanitarian crisis. corrupting on multiple fronts. if not only manage the chaos film, but also the parts of life on the russian occupation, latoya street totally destroyed, keep central station has become evacuations. legislation with russian forces coming closer. tensions are going up by the hour day without is there for the latest development for you as president wants china of consequences. you've had health russian forces in ukraine begging blames washington for the war and say, sanctions will hurt the global economy. so what's china's strategy on ukraine, and will it hurts relations with the west. this is inside story. ah

hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully by tebow. it's been nearly a month since russia invaded ukraine, and there's been no sign of any d escalation. russian forces have targeted several regions in the last few days, including the besieged city of merrier pole in the south. while the fighting rages on world leaders are attempting to find a diplomatic solution. us present joe biden, and chinese leaders. she jane being spoke on the phone on friday for the 1st time since the war began. washington is concerned about b gene stance on the conflict. chinese officials have refused to condemn the invasion. biden has warned of consequences for china if it provides material support to moscow, but the white house hasn't given details on what those consequences might include. we have a range of tools that could be considered and sanctions are certainly one tool in the toolbox as they are for other countries as well, even if we as we have not outline specific consequences and we'll, we'll communicate those directly to china. and of course,

with our european partners and counterparts. meanwhile, china's ambassador to ukraine has sprays the strength of the ukrainian people in a message that was a slight departure from the official line in beijing. ukraine. fate, media coated fun ship wrong saying china is a friendly country for the ukrainian people. as an ambassador, i can responsibly say that our country will forever be a good force for ukraine both economically and politically. he says will always respect your state and develop relations on the basis of equality and mutual benefit. his alger here is katrina you in beijing now with more on the call between the us and chinese leaders. according to chinese, read out the president sheet in pink told ger biden, that the board countries had the responsibility to de escalate pensions that fighting was in nobody's interest. and also he repeated, china's don't. the sanctions would not be effective in ending of the war. and would

only serve to damage the global economy that was already struggling to recover from the pandemic. now in or for the us part, that job related emphasize that there would be material costs or there would be consequences for materially supposing russia in its efforts to invade ukraine. although the u. s. did not state what the consequences would be. us officials have asserted that russian officials have off china and military support military aid in the form of equipment in terms of helping to engage in this was something that both moscow and beijing have denied prison blood also went on to share his own view of the war and put for the us and its allies efforts to stop russia's invasion and presumably tried to get china on board with that. however, we have seen no indication whatsoever that he was successful in this. and in fact,

by the end of this call, long as it did last, we've seen no sign whatsoever that china's position has changed. ah, wireless, bring in our guests for today's inside story in beijing, andy mark a senior research fellow at the center for china and globalization, and a professor at bay. jean forring's studies university in washington. lauren scored a former assistant secretary of defense and a senior fellow at the center for american progress. and in len london. zeno leoni . a lecturer in war studies at kings college, london, and an affiliate of university loud china institute. a warm welcome to you all gentlemen. thank you for being on inside story. andy, more can beijing let me sot with you, please. as katrina said there in our report, the call between president biden and president, she doesn't seem to have changed anything in either leaders or either countries position. but you believe that this was

a significant and important call. why is that? i do believe this was an important call. i think. first of all, the framing and the western media really is misleading and really are being nothing more than due to force. the nog refers for the u. s. government. if you read the sing, read out of the call, it makes 3 points. the 1st that both presidents thought the cause constructive. the 2nd way, which is the most important one, is that both presidents will instruct their people to take concrete actions to ensure that the tiny us relationship is back on the right track. and finally, the issue that is urgent and consuming the attention of the world is that both sides also agree that proper measures need to be taken to resolve the ukrainian

crisis. and i think it's the 2nd point that's really important. and the key here is, can the u. s. muster the political courage that is necessary to honor the decisions taken during this call? so this is why i think this was actually a very, very important call. and you talk about the framing in west and media of this conflict. i wonder how does chinese public opinion view this conflict in ukraine? what, you know, on social media in the past few days, they seem to have been a shift in chinese social media. how are they seeing this conflict? isn't it bad? p, r, for china to be sustaining these ties with russia right now. when civilians are being bombed? well, i think we have to separate public opinion in china from the official position and public opinion of course matters. but what matters more, i think, is the government's position on this. and this has been consistent all along the china has long said that it is on the side of peaceful development. and

that, i think a couple of things i would maybe question that it's a month in and russia still is not backed out. if we really understand the causes of this conflict, they're complex, but clearly they are heated disagreements and of course, violent disagreements on both sides of this question. but frankly, china has said that it is an impartial, neutral, and objective participant in this and not taking one side or the other, which i think is the only effect is half to a peaceful solution. larry lawrence called, i'll ask you about this in just a 2nd. whether china is a neutral participant, but i want to get your thoughts 1st on this call between president she and president biden, this long phone conversation they had. is it a watershed moment? do you think as andy does that this was an important call?

oh, i think it was very important because really the ultimate future of what happens in ukraine is dependent on both china and the united states. and so i think it was important for president biden to connect with the president she and explain to him what the united states would do if in fact, china provides more age to russia. because right now, least according to us reports, russia is running out of even. i mean, it shouldn't even food for the troops. and so of china doesn't provide that. then maybe russia will be willing to negotiate with the ukrainians who have already announced their might pull back from their desire to join nato. so, on the question of china's neutrality that andy was talking about is china. do you agree with him that china is it could be a neutral mediator in this conflict. i the very definitely china code because china

has very strong trade relations with europe, which is part of this conflict. they're the only country in the world that really still has influence on russia, i think was very interesting that before potent conveyed it, he went to bay jane to talk to she and didn't do until a lympics were all books. so it wouldn't distract from china's attention on the, on the olympics. yes, they do have it. the united states that european allies and even some countries in asia have all come out against russia. what if china continues to try and help. busy them, it will be russia will have less incentive to end this conflict on a negotiated solution. ok, then let me bring you into a conversation and you know the slight and sub tall change in rhetoric we've seen in chinese media recently in the last few days,

at least when it comes to the war in ukraine. they're focused on the humanitarian and the refugee crisis, the tweets also from the chinese ambassador to the, to ukraine, quite significant. china, providing humanitarian aged to ukraine as well. how should we view this? do you think china's position is evolving and has evolved since the conflict began? and i think because it became chinese positions substantially as we change, there was always great concern and great end of these on the drama experienced by ukrainian people and focus on trying to find a b for resolution. however, at least on a public level, china will be used to be undecidable. russia, and then of course, china is lemma. which is, should surely go should be prioritized, clunky,

or because if he was not working, he was all, it was obviously tried to make it conversational with the way with your mom. but actually china, we know there's right. we've seen this, this price. china normally tends to long term and china really needs at this stage of growth, strategic trajectory a, a partner. and stephanie rush is one of those. so i think china, china will be shown as i'm actually change the long defense on 3rd party crime, but not ready to lead pressure going. ok, let's take a closer look now at china's economic ties with some of the key players in this crisis. and what the stake us trade with china has grown enormously in recent

decades and is crucial for both nations, the united states and for more from china than from any other nation. in 2021, nearly half of china is $3.00 trillion dollars in export went to the us and its allies. that number is far higher than its trade with moscow, which had a record on your high of more than 100. $46000000000.00 last here, and trade between china and the e. u was worth more than $800000000000.00 for the same periods. and the market in beijing. zeno say, is a difficult balancing act for china. what are the options then for chinese leaders? if this conflicts, drugs on well, i think unfortunately, i think all indications, despite every was hope that it could be resolved soon will likely drag on. i'm not sure that it really has much of an impact on china's stance or it's policy decisions. i agree with, you know,

that i think that really china's stance, despite some positive rhetoric from the statements from the ukrainian vassar, as you said, really has not changed. the economics of this does not play that big of a role of the important thing here. i think that china has been very, very clear, is that whether in europe or whether in asia, what it will not tolerate is any country undermining the secure and interest other countries and regions. and this is the message of i think has been delivered very clearly and resolutely to the us. most recently in. ready this call between the 2 presidents, c and biden. lauren's cor, do you agree with this? andy says, economic service. don't play a big role. i think an issue that's more important to china. here is the whole question of taiwan. because they see washer claiming ukraine back to part of russia

. the same way that they see taiwan as part of china. and that sort of goes in combination with the economic interest. they have both concerns and i think that's really place in this. in fact, what we hear from the call is one buys and started talking about. 2 ukraine trying to start talking about taiwan. so that is very important to them, not just the economic consideration, but i think what biden made clear to them is these economic consequences. he just pointed out here with the amount their trade with the. 3 us and the european union could really have pretty severe consequences for china. what consequences precisely would the, the biden administration be considering here with us could go as far as isolating china economically in the same way that russia find itself isolated and sanctioned stay?

i think they would move in that direction the real quick and by the i don't think bite knows exactly now because these obviously would have a severe impact on the united states as well as our european nation. so that really is the key question. so it's really up to china now, as we say in the us, the ball is in their court. they want to help russia by providing ammunition right now, or they going to maintain their neutrality and, and try and start negotiation was, remember, negotiations already ongoing. i think china could play a positive role and tell washer, you know, you can come out ahead with this you. they'll recognize your addict ation of crimea . there'll be more independence in the don bass region, and ukraine won't join nato, and you can declare that a victory. they know your thoughts about this. how likely is it that china could push russia to end the war and withdraw from ukraine? being one with the meeting between by them and she adults in the last few months on

this crime, there actually seems to me let me get mommy vacuum where nobody is able to restart china, russia. and also we need to understand that the international see them also in space. it doesn't work. you know, way that's found that the machine only because china blanche power can just pick up the phone and, and we will, he's building, especially when you raise such high stakes for, for russia. so one in china is probably the most likely player to be able to actually mean from one to we will be call be you made from the us. you can not at the moment. on the other hand, that doesn't mean that china is only seen that many people, especially men in the us, both china who have on,

on russia. so it is also why china remains on defense because breast one can be seen as being directly we call the prime stopping and then maybe fading, because then we'll have a negative impact on implementing time of not like a great that perhaps there's only implant over small hours, but not major practice like this one and the in beijing. your thoughts about this? well, i'd like lawrence's phrase that the ball was in someone's court, but i would say that the ball was in the u. s. is work for 2 reasons. first, that russia is nowhere near as isolated as the united states or western media would like to make it out to be. first of all, let's look at india who is very clearly said that they're looking to set up the grouping ruble extremes with russia. and you trading with russia,

look at the opec countries for russia has been a very crucial voice on the un security council pocket stein arrive. so i think the efforts to isolate russia really are not going as well as the u. s. is portraying, and this will be doubly if not tripoli, true for efforts to isolate china. because while what russia can do is threaten nato and the u. s. with nuclear attacks. china is not only a nuclear power, it's an economic superpower. so it will be even more damaging to countries like the u. s. that we're trying to impose any kind of economic sanctions. right. let me ask you about the viewpoint and be that that a lot of commentators are making right now and that is president. she was banking on, on, put in, and his own country in china to form a unified strong block against the, against the west,

another block against the west. i mean, a week, a russia, whether they come out victorious from this war or not. i mean, would that not fit, not fit well with, with the, with the chinese, i mean russia, regardless of whether they win in ukraine will come out somewhat weaker from this conflicts is not a concern for china? well, i think very briefly, china's real view is that it wants to see more justin humane order without any country gauge or these kind of power politics quote more. thank you, but i think the more important went to you is that really the case? what about of taiwan? i mean, that was top of the conversation between size and biden, and president, she, taiwan, the implications for sure. well, again, taiwan is the cornerstone of us china relations because china seas this as an internal matter and others around the world perhaps don't. but i think i want to

really emphasize here that there's too much attention here in the military conflict and ukraine. but in fact, we need to focus on, i think, where the real data lives, which is economic and what about energy prices, food prices, double and triple. what is that going to do to europe? we are ready early, devastating impact from 3000000 refugees. come next winter if this conflict is still going on in energy prices, double and triple food prices are. ready increasing, i think this will severely tested, not shattered european unity and in particular germany, i think many analysts in the financial world that focus on the energy sector said that germany really should be much closer to russia than with us. but it's have blue at this point. ok to question atlanta system. let's bring it i think we have to see a new yeah. we have to seen did. let's bring in larry in washington dc. very your thoughts about this? how will this war define?

first of all, future relations between the us and china, but also between china and your lawrence called well, i think it's going to have a great impact. i think our colleague from beijing is right that the is going to be severe economic consequences for everybody involved. they're also going to be economic consequences for china, not just united states. and it's very interesting that andy mentioned germany because up till now germany had been leading toward russia. but after this started, i'm really not only cancel the north stream pipeline, but basically gave offensive equipment to ukraine. now the word germany has ended, its post cold war, a post world war 2 policy. oh, really remain neutral. that is becoming more aggressive. nobody wins a longer, this goes on. i agree. the real question is, can china and the us come to our understanding that profit? everybody? because i think that china would like to see

a new world order in which china and russia sorta confront the united states and then the period of us. so germany and i was going to be the real question. how does this and, and he's right, the whole world doesn't support it, but i really surprised that asian country singapore, japan, they have also joined, didn't put a nice sanctions on. so it's really, i think it's a pivotal moment for the international community here. how this ends up because the ramifications will go on for decades. ok, they know they only in london, your fonts can china and the u. s. come to an understanding. and what will russia, success, or failure in ukraine mean for, you know, global security in the us to come and the global economy. so it's a moment for me, we'll go 1st, your 1st question, the province between the us and china, they go there and they go beyond these private. we have just forgotten about those

problems because now he's on the front page of every newspaper. and why is the people's a mom and for the want to go there? it will know these are ready somehow real counseling on the one in the us trying to move beyond that, even though that was july. then the companies from us, from china, china, exactly the same company, the westernization. so these crisis is be with sailor re this trend, these, these actually happening. so it's better to go to one of the stands and to see where the partnership between china, russia is going because it holes, there might be quite an important financial trend of the capital where we see to partially the tax barrel being chinese once the very much in the making,

looking into developing war and the u. s. one, which was probably close with those counting those counties that have joined in time from getting crash. it's all straight on kind of you. all right, gentlemen, thank you very much for a very interesting discussion. andy mark gray calling, say, i want to say no. leoni have a great conversation. indeed. thank you very much. and i thank you for watching. you can always watch this program again anytime by visiting our website at ologist era dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page at facebook dot com for sachet j inside story. and of course you can join the conversation on twitter handle is that a j inside story for me back to boy and whole team and thanks for watching bye. for now. the news

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