supreme court has listed it's been on messaging at telegram. the judge who ordered the block reversed to whirling on sunday just 2 days after the mandate was issued, the decision was made out to the tech company agreed to make changes to the platform, including measures to fight this information. ah, this is our desert is your top stories, rushes calling on ukrainian forces to lay down their arms in the city of mattie poll. around 4000 people left the besieged area on sunday. moscow says a terrible humanitarian catastrophe is unfolding. but you, quite as president says, the destruction is russia's doing and calls it a war crime. ukraine 2nd largest city has suffered constant shelling i russian forces. although they haven't been able to take control of khaki, the bombing has caused catastrophic damage. ukraine's president laws,

ms. lansky has appealed to israel for help against russia. address members, the parliament by zoom is rather so far ruled out sending military assistance to ukraine as not join western sanctions against russia. if doctor, yeah, this is not just a military operation as moscow claims. this is a full scale, cruel war to exterminate our people, our children, our families, our country, our city, our villages, everything that makes ukrainians ukrainians, the russian army destroying this. while the whole world watching israel and ukraine have a shared history of struggle for survival. tanya's ambassador to the u. s. denies beijing is providing military assistance to russia. speaking on u. s. t. v said china is against the war. there is a additional nation about china providing military assistance to russia. we reject that. what they know,

not what china is doing is send food. madison slipping backs and the baby formula, not weapons and ammunition through adding party. and we against a wall, as i said, you know, we will do everything to this escalate. the crisis. nato has sent patriot air defense systems to slovakia, the country's defense minister previously said it would be willing to provide ukraine with its s $300.00 long range missile systems. if the units were replaced, resident bellamy zalinski directly appealed to the us for anti s systems to protect it that space against russian warplanes and missed us. okay, those you had lies. denise continues here. now they're out in side story. argentina's life is being jeopardized by industrialized agriculture and

uncontrolled cattle grazing to reasonable takes you want to, jeremy into the e, better national bank to explore what's being done to protect nature and meet some of those determined to when can we, welding argentina tool to al jazeera in the field, ukraine's president says there needs to be meaningful talks with russia. the warring sides have held several meetings, despite the relentless fighting on the ground. but these talks serve any purpose, and can they end the fighting? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammer, jim, jim civilians under siege and ukraine's. mario paul are experiencing some of the most relentless fighting since the war began. russia seized the southern port city

as vital for its military campaign, while keith accuses moscow of committing war crimes. but despite the lack of de escalation, a small group is trying to end the war through dialogue. representatives from both sides have met several times. there are 3 main points, a ceasefire, an end to all hostilities and humanitarian corridors, but there's been no progress so far and the attacks are continuing ukrainian president, the latimer, zalinski, says the only way to stop the conflict is through talks when the videos and need to ship, i'm sure you understand that negotiations are not easy or pleasant, but they all need it. it's about life. ukraine's always sort a peaceful solution. moreover, we're interested in peace now because we count every one killed or for it's important to us. every destroyed family, every destroyed house because we ukrainians, and for us, a person is priceless. moscow says it launched its invasion to quote,

demilitarize and the not so far ukraine, but insist it's ready to stop fighting. if keith meets its conditions, which includes ukraine, ceasing all its military action to defend itself. moscow also wants assurances of so called neutrality it once ukraine to amend its constitution to prevent it from joining any political or military block in the future. the kremlin also wants ukraine to acknowledge the crimean peninsula as russian territory. and at once cave to recognize the separatist regions of don't ask and logan ask as independent. ah. all right, let's introduce our panel in give, below the mer, cooling, head research fellow at the national academy of sciences of ukraine in berlin, o, rick brooklyn, professor of political science at stanford university in berlin. and in moscow, pablo falcon, how're a defense and military analyst, a warm welcome to you all, and thank you so much for joining us on inside story today for letting me let me

start with you today from your vantage point, are there well, is there actually any point to the talks that have been going on between ukraine and russia of late of a point is to find ways to store bloodshed, to store orders of ukrainian populations that russia is pursuing so far so. so the only danger the result of this talk so far has been a quarter door. so i need to report that every day. 100 or sometimes thousands of people on that to say for from cities right. like money or are you what your eve or suburbs of key a held in shelf and in sellers under the sharing. so they would have is out food is out, water was i would say 50, so that's good. anything else is that kind of damage or maybe a rush, and i just,

we need to time to, to, to bring more and more weapons and more troops. maybe it's time to, to bring a weapons from the vast. so everything is possible. how seen here is the part is, are about if you wanted to reach your result i, i can say, let me do you think that from, from your perspective, do you think that russia is sincere and trying to find a peaceful solution right now? i doubt it 1st, i doubt anything, russia nash, i mean you national leadership and is doing they keep saying different things about their demands and even at some point. but it, even if it seems at some point that the least of their demands becomes shorter and more reasonable, then the next statement brings back the won't get upset, at least of the month of it really are not acceptable and cannot be

acceptable at any point for ukraine's ukrainian so it seems like they're not serious about making a demand, a potentially acceptable. so to give you a chance to see a signals that if they want to compromise, they want a deal. and maybe they are just waiting to time. or maybe they are a pressure in ukraine behind the scenes, or maybe all their public statements. i just smokescreen, i don't know, probably let me ask you the same question. do you believe that these talks in the format that they have taken place thus far, can actually yield a result that they might actually in the fighting, bring about some type of meaningful ceasefire? well, the good of course, talks them not to have talks, but the positions are that there are signs or miles on that. so actually in the technical side,

i don't really like the composition of the stuff. the russian delegation doesn't really indicate russia really means that much real business. it's not very optimistic for cost because the leader of the delegation. mr. mit didn't ski is not from butcher in our circle. he doesn't have, he has 0 diplomatic experience, not even the performer, culture minister before that popular nationalistic, so historian. russia wanted to do something really achieving a hard kind of negotiated but compromise a person way for me to cause up with lots of experience and the quote musty and very much well knowing the premium situation with being leading the team and not mr . madame ski, who of course, can translate the premium position to the kremlin and back graham

a position to the agreeance, but doesn't have the or the capability to negotiate anything on his own. and the general, the both sides are not really represented the table. and this is very much a military situation. what the fire, i mean, that's a complicated situation. declaring a wire won't bring a stop to the fighting in the present position. so i'm not optimistic that there will be any kind of breakthrough in the box. l rank you've heard now, what both problem invalid amir, have had to say. what do you think? do you think that real substantial meaningful change can be brought about by these talks? or do you believe as some analysts do that this is just a way for president putting perhaps to buy time and what do you think about the sincerity of both sides. so when it comes to these talks, well, i don't think that we can compare this sincere and here. because what we see is an

aggressive that invaded a country without a provocation from the inside. and announcing very extreme positions. what he announced as the objectives of this military operation, which is nothing less than an invasion. so. ready it's really like a rapist and a victim, sit down and negotiate the term. so what will happen next? it's certainly not a situation that can be fixed by a military solution. and so i also agree as the other 2 said already, that it's very unlikely that we will see anything that is a breakthrough or a reliable results anytime soon as possible is brushes, military strategy shifting right now and if so, how is it shifting? well, it's clear that the greek didn't work out though officially,

president bush in the say that everything's on track, everything's on plan, doesn't seem to be so, but russia still has the upper end in terms of heavy weaponry in terms of long range of different sorts. marsha can fit any time in any part of your brain and your brain cannot back against the sensors of mower tree preparations and in defense industry in russia. so russia pass that advantage. it has the initiative more or less still and is pushing along. but the problem, of course, is that it says previous come and that means the russian forces will be totally limited to rhodes, spreading out to the countryside, especially in the northern parts of the front, where there's sure, as long as it's known in russia and ukraine. well, that doesn't work down at that month. so that means it's going to be

rather static, more warfare. why? the seizure of real po, maybe some other cities, a bill of maybe a month time will go at least before it begins to dry up, especially in the north. and they'll be fighting, most likely will pick up the premiums are mobilizing, moving it, getting more of soldiers to the front line and getting weapons from the west. russia most likely also could begin some kind of form of mobilization. ready as it is becoming clear that this will be a trad out campaign. so right now i believe it's going to be very static. ready seizures are small movements and, but the movements not of time for a long current deep operations and armored

columns moving around. you can do that before or probably, you know, there are some analysts who are now positing that the conflict has become a stalemate. would you agree with that assessment? well, it's not yet really still mate. russia has to be an issue when they say your grade russia has or it was closed out. ready but the now blitzkrieg didn't work, that's also a bill, have to come up with something. i'm not sure that really matters for we thought through or understood increasing the number of people here. see if in the present situation, russia should begin to mobilize a co op. i don't know, maybe a 1000000 re service. you have to train them because they're doing training at least as several months of basic training before you began, begin. read, read, bringing more math power to the front because it's, it's a long drawn out campaign rush. you will need to at least a 1000000 soldiers to occupy and control large parts of you create it. didn't do

that yet. you create a territory. rush control is ukraine is miniscule compared to the country and rush will continue. long range attacks closer to the borders of bowen, van romania and scott here hungary they tried to hit create. yeah. and a defense in the street military base is the supply lines of weapons. and nations coming in from the west and the siege. maria. oh, it may be after its falls shadow. no one was by to happen. surely, i was going to try to move further on to the best and to the transmitter valona mer moscow's conditions include ukraine declaring itself neutral ukraine, acknowledging the crimea peninsula as russian territory. and key of recognizing the separatist regions of don't ask and law ganske as independent. would you crane agree to those conditions?

you forgot to one is more important in demand, namely, the so called demo that is ation keeping. you know, the general capacity defense capacity, military capacity trained low and makes the combination of neutrality. and then the 3rd is ation highly problematic into this highly unlikely for your convenience to accept in ukrainian society. that is that prevalent, predominant belief actually that not, not, none of these condition can be accepted, but the degree of acceptability is different. so as it is a sizable minority, something like a 3rd of respondents in recent surveys except in that ukraine minute. now it's nature ambition, bought it for, for a mission or crimea and he's the boss pockets. republic is the percentage down to

like then 10 percent. so it only majority of the population rejects this, this demands, but in terms of night membership is this could potentially be acceptable. even the problematic and very difficult to, to, to, to implement, to actually because it's a conditional norm is required to sort of the parliament walls and, and that, and it going to ration of public opinion. so it's, it's, it's very difficult but potentially could be accepted at some point if it is because a couple from the demand of dental, it is asian. so the logic is like, this is a ukraine is a night member and can have a limited army. but beyond a night umbrella or you crane it doesn't have any of that nature or as a military alliance umbrella needs to have its own strong and capable armies. so it both are definitely and, and one starter at all, rick, if,

if one is talking about the possibility of ukraine declaring itself neutral or demilitarize in or, or pledging not to try to join nato going forward, one would assume that ukraine in return would need some guarantees of its security, and if that were the case, who potentially would act as guarantors for ukraine security going forward. exactly, this is one of the big question marks, and it leads us back to the time when ukraine became a sovereign state and accepted the conditions of being a sovereign saved by giving up its nuclear arsenal by receiving the security guarantees from western forces. which didn't mean to anything, because now in this situation where the invasion, the west was very clear from the start,

that nato will not fight on ukrainian territory. so i personally don't see you what kind of trial his status practically changes anything. that was the situation before natal didn't invite ukraine to become a member. it wasn't on the agenda. and i don't see this as a territorial conflict. put in was very clear that what he actually wants is to restore the dignity and pride of the soviet union and wants to rewrite history. and once nato, to move back to the board us of 89. which means that ukraine is only the beginning . and if he loses. ready the military operation, while the invasion ukraine, than we don't know what the limits are, because if he is cornered, he doesn't have anything to lose. and then he can cross the red lines and make use of his destructive arsenal. that goes beyond imagination. probable if

a negotiated settlement between ukraine and russia could actually be reached, would president be willing to agree to allow president lensky to stay in power? where would president putin want to see? president zalinski out of power model if you ask him out or in any ways that he doesn't like him, that's rather clear. i want to see someone else, the president show position and ukraine. of course, the previous president actually doesn't have that much power under the gradient. constitution it's mar, parliamentary report, books and the presidential one. so that's not really a real issue that we hear. it's really what the objective of this operation are and can, except that his gamble didn't work out and tried to cut the losses

or double. now, i think he's going to double down, that's what everyone says, but of course you never know. maybe he'll decide to cut losses and retreat. what happened in georgia when we could have gone to the ship, but didn't kind of set up for some kind of compromise of sorts. so i don't know for sure i can guess. but right now i believe it's going to continue. maybe even this war may drag on to the fall. that's also possible. so this right now seems to be turning into a war of attrition. but actually russia cannot win a war of attrition against the united west, where the greatest just the proxy pricing on the battlefield. but the entire western, this entire defense industry is working to armed them with the most modern weapons

. are russia has to ruin this defense industry, which is that they not like in the time of the soviet union, the cold war, it's not actually able to produce mass, produce weapons or munitions that are right now, being spent at the high level in the high and low, medium, it intensity conflict. so it's a problem. it can drive on to be full, but then there's mark to be a very serious crisis on the russian side. they'll have to do something to either ended in some kind of way. i don't know how that's going to well valid, amir, based on how things are going thus far, i'm talking about how things are going in the conflict and also how things are going at the negotiating table. do you think that there is a potential for direct talks between president zalinski and president putin? at some point, i frankly don't see much of a point in personal talks. it's mostly a symbolic issue,

as lensky based on his previous preference for direct contact still wants to talk to put in putting seems to be locked in, but at some point his signal that was a final deal him but he might be willing to meet the events i seen nothing that cannot be delivered through intermediate through, through the delegation. so for booking definitely would love to, to, to preside over military parade of the victory of russia in k of or, or money or whatever. but that's not going to happen. so for, for talk, speech give ration a less than what it wanted, if you might not to be really into the personal involved. so i don't know that there are some, some, some talks about potential meeting in turkey. um, it depends on whether the part is actually make a deal and then you would definitely want a personal meeting to,

to seal the deal of as a book in ones that on lot depends on how much you can if you can get it right now . it seems like he still unwilling to accept the fact that he, he can't get what he really wanted. maybe he, he still believes that he can muster an additional troops and an additional events . and he can still get the whole package that's not going to happen. and i want to command on, on post the statement that it is, or will just be a proxy in their best war on, on, on russia or against russia. that's not true. you can in the spot from, from, from a proxy you grade is actually the vital part of the war. even if accept visa accept the exhibit vest is actually against russia. is that which is, which is not really true. now, is russia versus u. k. and ukraine is fight in north, on the heroically but capably,

and the rest of course, the supply threatens, but domestic keeps it's distance, doesn't want to, to, to, to incur any loss this and actually get directly involved in. so you can demonstrate that if it's, it's a vital part, it's a crucial part of that, of that. a defense lined over against the russian aggression. overcome, i saw you nodding along some of a low to mere was saying it look like you want to jump in. i'll let you do that. but i also wanted to ask you, if you think there are any international actors out there who might be able to offer a credible diplomatic off ramp to president putin. well then, the answer is clearly china because no one else has as much leverage as china has. after 2014, russia had no other choice and turning its face towards the east and becoming very dependent on china. and if china can't afford rising energy prices and doesn't want

to take the risk of a global recession, as an unintended side effects of the massive sanctions, which also means that time is not on the side of russia. when we look at the bigger picture, militarily, maybe it is. but the economy cr speaking and financially speaking. it certainly isn't. and the other side effects are that the west is united. the west is cutting off its energy dependency from russia. we are seeking frantically for other suppliers of energy and change into a renewable energy economy which destroyed the russian economic model. there are so many counter effects of this intervention, and in the end, it's all engaging. and if it takes longer or shorter, reaching hasn't decided yet. all right, well, we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much. all of our

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