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. ah. whole russian artists and sports figures are being asked to condemn the invasion of ukraine or risk being banned
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from performing in the west. so should they be forced to take a political position? this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm hasn't seeka crossed the western world, russian artists, musicians, filmmakers and athletes are being excluded from events and competitions. they are under growing pressure to denounce the actions of russian president vladimir putin . that's despite laws to protect the freedom of expression for all people living and working in europe and north america. the munich philharmonic has sacked its stock and dr. and put in support. valerie, get a give the soprano and net thread cur had to withdraw from several events,
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including new york's metropolitan opera. she wrote on instagram opposing the war only to delete the post, but she stay silent on president putin. and in tennis, the partition sports minister has warned russia tennis players, especially world number 2, daniel mcvey, dave, they may be bought from wimbledon unless they denounce, let him uprooted. and talking about the british government there's, like i said, i think we should the so a great example that dennis is our should be outside of politic. and then you general support because we are outlets. we want to compete, we were sacrificing so many things. the sports should be outside of the politic because everyone say this, but in then loosely, steel is not happening. so that's why i hope that we will support they will so that
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there is no politics. and we will be a good example to have a like, a huge step forward. but some cultural figures, say artists should take a clear political stance on the war in ukraine. russian born german pianist and political activist ego or levitt, wrote on instagram, being a musician, does not free you from being a citizen from taking responsibility and bringing up music as an excuse to remain vague is an insult on the. so let's talk more about this now. with our panel in doha, we have natalia levine, a british russian play, right, political activist and blogger, in moscow, alexia to ship ski, a russian sports reporter, based in moscow. also in doha, daniel rice visiting associate professor at georgetown university katara. his research focuses on sports policy and politics. welcome to all of you,
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natalia. if i could start with you, and if you could talk about the, the circumstances of how you, you came to doha and your position on, on people going off to russian artists and, and sports people over this. i've been in a position for a very long time and i was raised rushing precisely to work again and again, his regime, which i felt and knew as we all did in the opposition, will come to something like this. something critics and. and since then we, we've been brutally fighting with not much result. unfortunately, i had to criminal cases again in the prosecutor. and by, by is i was in power for my opposition sense,
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but i kept myself in russia fighting for all those years. i haven't left up until this point when i realized that not only am i in danger because i'm local about my physician or you. but my child is in danger and that's when i are back them. we went to the which is where we are now. we're re, period of time. hopefully, this will be over the world be always over to and then i hope to go back to russia and, and what i'm doing with regards to all the public people for men and people in the us and, and their stance on the, on, on the war well, i believe anyone who is for the life where many many followers meet the very 1st and this stance needs to be in line with what the, the civilized world has already expressed and the civilized world has condemned. so
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this is what those people who want to work and, and compete and, and it just the global they need to take a very 1st stance, whether it's tennis player, mid, whereas whether it's near trap. so the 1st thing are they need to, they need to do that. this is important not only be, not only because the black world otherwise should not really accept them in the future, but also because this is a moral thing to do. i believe we're in a position where it's very much black and white. i very much again, that's what generally, we are in, in a unprecedented career point in our, in our law, in our civilized life on the planet. we haven't said things of this magnitude. we're to, so this is time to be on the right side, on the side of the good, and the end of those people payments people. well, if the world, the people,
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if they're not prepared to make the sacrifice a couple of contrasts with gas from be on the right side, then that shouldn't be part of their lives while they shouldn't be allowed to compete globally. they shouldn't be, it should be with the, with the normal people and working with the normal people and what was the time being at the very least. and i think in honesty, i think that will be probably blacklist the anyone who doesn't want to comply with with what's, you know, what is the right thing to do really at the moment. i think that will reflect this for a very long time. and i think that should be, it really is a breaking point. ok for all of us, alexia, chef, ski. you were shaking your head earlier. is it right to, to punish athletes? an artist over this? of course not. i mean, i agree with a general notion that dances should be heard and people should express their opinions on what's going on right now in ukraine. well, obviously it's
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a free world. then we have to express our approval or disapproval of that. but let's be real about it. i think it's a big naive to think that if you did that, or i think some that idea in or any other prominent russian athlete, or global sporting celebrity, or cultural celebrity, says no to war, get out of your grade. this will not stop anyway. we've seen it time and time again . we have an example of a famous russian football. just a small off who was among the few big markets here in russian saying his disapproval of what was going on in ukraine. did that stop the bombs falling? did that stop the military conflict? of course not. the one thing that people have to understand is that we have obviously elite athletes like an example. in the n h l, who did say his know to what's going on in ukraine, but did not take down the avatar on instagram, where he is with the russian president. obviously getting a lot of abuse for that. but he continued playing continue, scoring goals,
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and trust me, the washington capital science absolutely love what i was doing on the field of life. but on the other hand, we have sports man, and that leads from different types of sports here in russia, quite being castigated from the world sports community for no reason whatsoever. they never supported emergency contact, any grades, they've never voted for it. they've never vocally supported it and yet they are being cast aside by you know, the license thomas by the president of the c for basically started this whole process of castigating rather than athletes. and you know, in the case of then, you know, if they are, for mentioned tennis player and again, so probably some that many out of football is for instance, russell football is across the planet. they are very well to people. they are multi millionaires and medications, but let's, so for instance, about berry berry olympic athletes who are kicked out from beijing a day before the games were supposed to start. let's talk about sky is, let's talk about biopsies, let's talk about, you know,
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and all other people who only have one means to survive. it's doing sport. here they are, we're already cast out from the international supporting families. and if they speak out here in russia and trust me, you, you are, you know, what i'm talking about, they will have problems here as well. so they basically have nowhere else to go. we have to think about these people as well, of course, saying you know, or yes to what's going on in your grade. vital thing. but i think in the case of athletes, this is just a little bit too risky for them and they're likely within the future. daniel, right? well, what's your, what's your take on this? and for those who say sports and politics in particular shouldn't, shouldn't go together. that's the history of that shows that this is not on charted . territory is yeah, cause but in general, when it comes to sporting play, caught of what it was. and then we had a little boy in the seventy's. but in general, when it comes to sporting play,
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caught of what he was had and we had a little boy in the 9070. again, the mental countries increased. so we did not see boy got any mos in the ninety's. and for the coming years, they had been a couple of individual boy by ever asked me and generous euro. and so this is a very special situational. it maybe a bit like 9048 when germany and japan were not allowed to participate in some on a big game as a punishment for the 2nd world war. and this time, russian se sum teams like this to prevent the 3rd word wall. natalia television, if i could turn back to you on this, you know, alexi made the point there that this is, this is punishment. the 3rd word. well,
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natalia, probably been if i could turn back to you on this, you know, alexi made the point there that this is, this is punishing a lot of athletes, particularly in russia who don't make a huge salary. and they're being caught up in this through no choice of their own. i mean, you know, foreign based athletes who, who have a, the, the notoriety and, and are able to are in a position to, to speak out if they want. but others are being punished unnecessarily. honestly, everyone has been punished necessarily at the if, if those people in the sports, they still vote right? i mean, they don't really just do sports. they have the right to go and vote all those years. they voted, or this is their punishment. if they just kept silent and did nothing, this is their punishment. i'm very sorry, but that's just how it is. anyone who didn't stand up in time. so this peter will
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let us be punished as well. not just that the general public which is being punished with sanctions, but that's not what we're talking about that. but going back to the famous list, because remember that was mentioned. i firmly believe that the global was community should not, except in its ren atlas, who don't have the yacht and the decency stand up against the bloody war that rushes leading in ukraine, they just should not be accepted, period, alexia, now you want a response to some of that, and i also want to ask you, i'm sure you're aware of the of what happened a couple of days ago with the the russian autistic gymnast even coolie act. here in doha, he displayed the the said sign on his vest, which is, as you know, as seen as a symbol of support of rushes, actions in ukraine, and he was on the metal podium and what, what offended a lot of people,
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particularly the international gymnastics federation, was was not just that, but the fact that he was standing next to the ukrainian athlete who want to go metal. so they are opening up an investigation into that all day. right. to do that, well, to be honest with you, i'm not a big fan of political statements in the field of play. i've been long sought that sport and politics are 2 different beast and they should not be in the same board. but even judging by what natalie was saying, that you know, that these should be, you know, not letting to participate in the international competition. simply on the basis of the fact that they belong to russia. but they are russian and whether they have voted for put in or not, we don't know that i think it's just the repositories that we have come to this stage where called sports and things which are so distance away from politics are not being completely politicized. and you know, in the case of this, the gymnast,
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i don't approve of what you did, and i do believe that you should be punished for that. but at the same time, let's remember multiple cases when athletes as you know, express their opinions in the field of play and they were punished as well. so if that is the principle is applied equally to every single athlete. and there was also a gates during the beijing olympics, when ukrainian athletes brandish a know was slogan, he wasn't really punished, but there was, you know, there were, there was between him and the representatives of the i don't see that she shouldn't be doing that. even though she wasn't actually supporting anything, he was to the country saying that there shouldn't be happening in ukraine. this is a very dark territory, but i'll give you another example. we're talking about russia who may or may not be allowed to participate in national competitions. i mean, i respect that, you know, different opinions on that matter, but i'll give you a different example. there is a big football style in russia with georgia tech. why don't you play for urban,
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catherine and the latest information that is being widely speculated. now in the rest of the media is that his family is receiving death threats right now that if you continuous playing in russia, the family will suffer consequences. so basically, one, i don't know whether that's someone english speaking or ukrainian speaking doesn't really matter for that point. they're hounding out a player and sending that back to this family so that he leaves russia and go somewhere else. and now there's an international break and football going on. so he left russia, he may not be coming back. how is that? all right? can someone explain to me, is this bottom of what is this part of the sports without politics kind of thing, sees just crossing all the boundaries and i don't think to be honest, that athletes should be buying the price for what governments do. because we don't remember any us athletes or u k. or any other athletes being banned, binds national board. you know, when i was asian, when these countries were engaged in military conflicts all over the world. and now
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with the case with russians, and i think it's unjust, unfair, and it's killing russian sport effectively. just like guys must be happening over the last 4 or 5 years, you know, different reasons. let's, let's put some of that back to natalia then, is there a line that's being crossed here when you go off to not just sudden athletes, but their families as well? well, i feel very bad for anyone who gets death, threats, and threats. general, i've been getting breast but a year from around and around the movements and things. so i know what that's, that is about i feel bad about that, but there's always an extreme reaction to the obviously i, i think that people were, you know, taking it to that, that level. it's very stupid, completely an app for it should be happening. however, i still do believe that if you, if you're rough annapolis, and unless you boca lee, especially if you're famous, if you're not famous,
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then you don't have many followers that there may be, you know, it doesn't make much of a difference. but as some of those people are, there are some other that was a very famous, they have lots of followers and social media. if they talk, don't take the bath because they, they are afraid of consequences. but then there are russians sort of whatever life and then and workplace, of whoever they work for. that's just, that's a refined to me that the, they, they should be back from, from the rest of the global at the community. because if you don't have the guts, you don't have the moral benson, you react for it as what we see going on in your brain. then we don't want to deal with the period is, is, is what i feel. daniel rice do boycotts of whether they're of athletes or artists, or any anyone in culture, do they ultimately make a difference?
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and by making a difference, i mean, do they force the, the person or the regime that's being targeted to, to change their position, to change that policy? it to pass. i mean, that's fine. but overall, the architecture is bought, the estimates and countries compete with each other regardless of different ideologies, politics, religions, and so on. so this should be like really an exception to boy because otherwise it's not national system. what not function. i can just share something from discussions with my you my so they had been critic and said they are dotted because many western countries was accept the treatment, also opinion people and not quite what is why it is now different actually
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a case of roxan ukraine. this is true, i assure the criticism, i think the wrong thing in one case doesn't justify to wrong in another case. and we're really in a very tragic situation. give them sense since russia has nuclear weapons. so there's really the risk of like the conflict. so i think why i'm in general again, what was, i think in exceptional circumstances like this one, justify what you of you on that then l. alexi. sometimes things like this are justified and culture and sport in general, as unfortunate as it is, will become a kind of collateral damage to, to, to action, serve such as rushes, actions in ukraine was the less i'll be very blogs about it. i don't support what's going on in ukraine. i lived in ukraine. i know this country very well and i,
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i've been in shock since day one. there is no justification to me as to what's happening back. it cannot be justified in any way, but at the same time, there's another side to the story that almost i feel like i am russian and even by default. and that is not true, because if you look at how much this country has given to the world culture, why sports, why? i just came back from aging olympics. i spoke to numerous athletes from all over the world from australia. it's a more way and you know, we already had a situation in beijing when everyone started talking about russia, yet not for a good reason, not for about reason, but for another doping scandal adobe allegations against i speak of states and i spoke to minneapolis and they said listen, if they kick you out from sports, this will be if you look at what's happening, what's been happening in the past with the military things all over the world and very few countries were actually punished for it. remember, it was last year for they were kicked out on the walls up for their onslaught which,
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which was happening there. but other than that, there are just very few examples of the same thing happening to russia right now. indeed, the world is coming together, criticizing rushes, actions and ukraine bus the long lasting. in fact, of, you know, it has them culture and sports will be, will be felt that the shops will be really racing across the black. again, simply because russia has a big place in sports and culture worldwide, and you know, what started me the most for this matter is that things like sports and culture. they should be uniting people. and in this case, they are only like putting people even further apart, especially in the game. when can you essentially use? and i can tell you that the reaction here in russia is being very negative about that you add to the notion that, you know, do those was watching the actions. and you, great to say, okay, there sanctioning our athletes. they're kicking out our and things like that. it makes people even more angry. so what good does for, resolution on this matter? i have no idea. let's,
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let's put this back to natalia briefly to point to alexi makes there, i mean our, our sports and also both acted as a bridge between cultures and nations. so by punishing the practitioners of those things don't, don't risk burning bridges. well, bridges have been burned by the red. there's really not much to repair at the moment. and the walk that divides everybody, which is why who is was making this world and what we're late by his actions. so, unfortunate as it is, as, as has been mentioned, that some of those athletes who don't make too much money or not, well, payments outlets are put in a position where they can compete. unfortunate, but that is the price to pay for competing with a country that is led by a bloody dictator. that is just how it is. ok that's. that's the term we use for a long time when he wasn't completely justified. now unfortunately, it is. he's a blood. oh,
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so everybody collateral damage and on that we are going to have to leave, is thank you very much to all 3 of you, natalia, and even alexia, she epsky and daniel. all right, thanks very much, being on inside story and thank you. as always for watching remy, you can see the program again, any time just go to our website, i just need a dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook. on counting the costs, could the war in ukraine plunged the global economy into a new price? it russia turn to china's you on to survive? sanctions is the us dollar in danger. and could crypto currencies help russia evade financial punishment county? because on al jazeera, tens of thousands of children were born into or lived under the ice regime in iraq and syria. now, many are in camps either orphans, all with a widowed mothers, rejected by their own communities. she could you think that people are going to welcome them after that? of course, mom and you documentary his,
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