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have 4 grandchildren, he says, all died on the way here. when suddenly the children died while we were walking. we did not have any kind of transport. if only we had transport, they would have survived. we could not get food or water so they could not walk. that's why they died. nobody's even counted how many malnourished children of old he died. the next rains a june april, help is needed now. malcolm web out, his era, southern somalia. ah, this is al jazeera, these are the top stories. a russian court has found a jailed kremlin critic alexi navarro. the guilty of large scale fraud is accused of embezzling donations from his anti corruption foundation. lavarne is denied the charges and says they're politically motivated. ingrained presidents calling for
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goodbye. a dangling the headline. what is the situation there right now? it's worse than any kind of nightmare. if we have every unflinching journalism, what is it telling us about india? it's telling us that we're going down a very, maybe in this sharing personal stories with a global audience. here i am meeting with people here in the same struggles and same stories explore in abundance of world class programming. on al jazeera, the russian artists and 4th figures are being asked to condemn the invasion of ukraine or risk being banned from performing in the west. so should they be forced to take a political physician? this is inside. ah, ah, ah,
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hello, welcome to the program. i'm hasn't seeka across the western world, russian artist, musicians, filmmakers and athletes are being excluded from events and competitions. they are on the growing pressure to denounce the actions of russian president vladimir putin . that's the spite laws to protect the freedom of expression for all people living and working in europe and north america. are the munich philharmonic has sacked its stock conductor and puts in support. valerie give the soprano and net read cur. had to withdraw from several events, including new york's metropolitan opera. she wrote on instagram, opposing the war only to delete the post, but she stay silent on president putin. and in tennis, the british sports minister has warned russia, tennis players, especially world number 2, daniel med vega, if they may be bought from wimbledon unless they denounce, let him uprooted. and talking bo,
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the british government is like i said, i think we should the so a great example that dennis is out should be out of politic and then use general sports because we are outlets we want to compete. we were sacrificing so many things. the sports should be outside of the politic because everyone say this, but in then loosely, steel is not happening. so that's why i hope that we will support they will so that there is no politics. and we will be a good example to have a like, a huge step forward. but some cultural figures, say artists should take a clear political stance on the war in ukraine. russian born german pianist and political activist ego or levitt, wrote on instagram, being a musician, does not free you from being
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a citizen from taking responsibility and bringing up music as an excuse to remain vague is an insult to off. ah. so let's talk more about this now with our panel in doha, we have natalia levine, a british russian play, right, political activist and blogger in moscow, alexia to ship ski, a russian sports reporter, based in moscow. also in doha, daniel rice visiting associate professor at georgetown university katara. his research focuses on sports policy and politics. welcome to all of you, natalia. if i could start with you, and if you could talk about the, the circumstances of how you, you came to doha and your position on, on people going off to russian artists and sports people over this. i've been in a position for
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a very long time and i was raised rushing precisely to work again and again, his regime, which i felt and knew as we all did in the opposition, will come to something like this. something critics and. and since then we, we've been brutally fighting with not much result. unfortunately, i had the criminal cases again in the prosecutor and et cetera, by, by those in power for my opposition. but i kept myself in russia fighting for all those years. i haven't left up until this point when i realized that not, not on the my in danger because i'm local, my physician or you. but my child is in danger and that's when i test our back them . we went to the house, which is where we are now. we're, we're re,
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period of time. hope this will be over the world be always over to. and then i hope to go back to russia. and tease is what i'm doing with regards to all the public people for men and people in the art and, and their stance on the, on, on the war will, i believe anyone who is with the life where many many followers need to take the very 1st best and the staff needs to be in line with what the, the civilized world has already expressed and the civilized world has condemned descriptive. so this is what those people who want to work and teach and, and it to be global. they need to be could vary for them whether it's tennis player mid, whereas whether it's neutral. so the 1st thing are they need to, they need to do that. this is important not only be,
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not only because the black world otherwise should not really accept them in the future, but also because this is a moral thing to do. i believe we're in a position where it's very much black and white. i very much again, that's what generally we're in in a unprecedented career point in our, in our law, in our civilized life on the planet. we haven't said anything of this magnitude. so this is time to be on the right side, on the side of the good and the end of those people payments people. well, if the world, the people, if they're not prepared to make the sacrifice a couple of contrasts with gas from to be on the right side, then that shouldn't be part of that light while they shouldn't be allowed to compete globally. they shouldn't be, it shouldn't be with the, with the normal people and working with the normal people. we're normal people for the time being at the very least. and i think in honesty,
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i think that will be probably blacklist the anyone who doesn't want to comply with with what's, you know, what is the right thing to do really at the moment. i think that will reflect this the for a very long time. and i think that should be, it really is a breaking point. ok for all of us, alexia, chef, ski. you were shaking your head earlier. is it right to, to punish athletes? an artist over this? of course not. i mean, i agree with a general notion that dances should be heard and people should express their opinions on what is going on right now in ukraine. well, obviously it's a free world. then we have to express our approval or disapproval of that. but let's be real about it. i think it's a big i think that if you did that, or i think some that idea in or any other prominent russian athlete, or global sporting celebrity, or cultural celebrity, says no to war, get out of your grade. this will not stop anyway. we've seen it time and time again
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. we have an example of a famous russian football. just a small off who was among the few big name out here in russian saying his disapproval of what was going on in ukraine. did that stop the bombs falling? did that stop the military conflict? of course not. the one thing that people have to understand is that we have obviously elite athletes like an example. in the n h l, who did say his no to what's going on in ukraine, but did not take down the avatar on instagram, where he is with the russian president. obviously getting a lot of abuse for that. but he continues playing continuous scoring goals and trust me, the washington capital science absolutely love what i was doing on the field of life. but on the other hand, we have sports man, and that leads from different types of sports here in russia, quite being castigated from the world sports community for no reason whatsoever. they never supported emergency contact, any grades, they've never voted for it. they've never vocally supported it and yet they are
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being cast aside by you know, the license thomas by the president of the c for basically started this whole process off, castigating rather than athletes. and you know, in the case of then, you know, if they are, for mentioned tennis player and again, so probably some that many out of football, for instance, russian football is across the planet. they are very well to people. they are multi millionaires and medications. but let's, so for instance, about berry berry olympic athletes who are kicked out from beijing a day before the games were supposed to start. let's talk about sky is, let's talk about biopsies, let's talk about, you know, and all other people who only have one means to survive. it's doing sport. here they are, we're already cast out from the international supporting family. and if they speak out here in russia and trust me, you, you are, you know, what i'm talking about, they will have problems here as well. so they basically have nowhere else to go. we have to think about these people as well, of course, saying, you know, or yes to what's going on in your grade is vital thing. but i think in the case of
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athletes, this is just a little bit too risky for them and they're likely within the future. daniel, right? well, what's your, what's your take on this? and for those who say sports and politics in particular shouldn't, shouldn't go together. that's the history of that shows that this is not on charted . territory is yeah, cause, but in general, when it comes to sporting play costs, you're wondering why and we had a little boy in the 90 seventy's and eighty's and ninety's 76 african conference were putting them on to products. that insult epic, 9080. the us and as always, some base boy, the mom called protest, most of the nation if one of the internet that was somebody by faith. but since the end of the cold war, everything again,
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the number of countries increased. so we did not see boy got any mos in the ninety's and for the coming years there has been a couple of individual boy by ever asked me in general. and this is a very special situational. it may be a bit like 9048 when germany and japan were not allowed to participate in some on a big game as a punishment for the 2nd world war. and this time, russian se teams like this to prevent the 3rd word while natalia pelican. if i could turn back to you on this, you know, alexi made the point there that this is, this is punishing a lot of athletes, particularly in russia who don't make a huge salary and they're being caught up in it's through no choice of their own. i
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mean, you know, foreign based athletes who, who have a, the, the notoriety and, and are able to are in a position to, to speak out if they want. but others are being punished unnecessarily. honestly, every want to be punished necessarily at this. if, if those people in the 4th, they still vote right? i mean, they don't really just do sports, they have the right to go and vote all those years. they voted, or this is their punishment. if they just kept silence and did nothing, this is their punishment. i'm very sorry, but that's just how it is. anyone who didn't stand up in time. so this big peter will let us to this point when we're in the middle of a horrible, i'm just complete, necessary bloody war. it's punishable along with this is not just what's the point why people will have to realize it. if the russian people who allow him to get to the point where punish should be punished as well. not just general public which is
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being punished with attention defense. but that's not what we're talking about that . but going back to the famous list, because men but it was mentioned, i firmly believe that the global was community should not except in its ren atlas, who don't have the job and the decency stand up against the bloody war that rushes leading in ukraine. they just should not be accepted, period, alexia, now you want to responses to some of that. and i also want to ask you, i'm sure you're aware of that of what happened a couple of days ago with the the russian autistic gymnast yvonne coolie act here in doha. he displayed the, the said sign on his best, which is, as you know, as seen as a symbol of support of russia's actions in ukraine. he was on the metal podium and what, what offended a lot of people, particularly the international gymnastics federation, was,
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was not just that. but the fact that he was standing next to the ukrainian athlete who want to go metal. so they are opening up an investigation into that all day. right. to do that well, to be honest with you, i'm not a big fan of political statements in the field of play. i've been long sought that sport and politics are 2 different beast and they should not be in the same board. but even judging by what natalie was saying, that you know that these should be, you know, not letting to participate in the international competition. simply on the basis of the fact that they belong to russia, but they are russia and whether they have voted for booting or not. we don't know that i think it's just the repositories that we have come to this stage where called sports and things which are so distance away from politics are not being completely politicized. and you know, in the case of this, i don't approve of what you did,
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and i do believe that you should be punished for that. but at the same time, let's remember multiple cases when athletes as you know, express their opinions in the field of play and they were punished as well. so if that is the principle is applied equally to every single athlete. and there was also a gates during the aging and when ukrainian athletes brandish, they know war slogan, he wasn't really punished, but there was, you know, there were, there was talk between him and the representatives of the i see that you shouldn't be doing that even though she wasn't actually supporting anything he was to the country saying that there shouldn't be, will happening in ukraine. this is a very dark territory, but i'll give you another example. we're talking about russia who may or may not be allowed to participate in national competitions. i mean, i respect that, you know, different opinions on that matter, but i'll give you a different example. there is a big football style in russia who is georgia. why don't you play for urban
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guidelines and the latest information that is being widely speculated. now in the rest of both media is that his family is receiving death threats right now that if you continuous playing in russia, the family will suffer consequences. so basically, some one, i don't know whether that's someone english speaking or ukrainian speaking doesn't really matter for that point. they're hounding out a player and sending that back to this family so that he leaves russia and go somewhere else. and now there's an international break and football going on. so he left russia. he may not be coming back. how is that? all right? can someone explain to me? is this bottom of what is this part of the sports with our politics kind of thing? it's just crossing all the boundaries and i don't think to be honest, that athletes should be buying the price for what governments do. because we don't remember any us athletes or u. k. or any other athletes being banned by national board and vision. when these countries were engage the military conflicts all over the world. and now with the
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case with russians, and i think it's unjust, unfair, and it's killing russian sport effectively. just like guys must be happening over the last 4 or 5 years, you know, different reason let's, let's put some of that back to natalia then, is there a line this being crossed here? when you go off to not just sudden athletes, but their families as well. well, i feel very bad for anyone who gets death threats and threats general i've been getting breast year is from around and around from the movements and things. so i know what that's, that is about i feel bad about that, but there's always an extreme reaction to the obviously i, i think that people were, you know, taking it to that, that level. it's very stupid, completely an app for it and should be happening. however, i still do believe that if you, if you're rough annapolis, and unless you boca lee, especially if you're famous, if you're not famous,
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then you don't have many followers that there may be, you know, the, it doesn't make much of a difference. but you and some of those people are there and some of the very famous they have lots of followers and social media. if they don't take the bath because they, they're afraid of consequences. but then they're a russian sort of whatever life and then and workplace, whoever they work for. that's just that's sure, a fine to me that the, they, they should be back from, from the rest of the global at the community. because if you don't have the guts, you don't have the moral bounce in use to react. as what we see going on in your brain, then we don't want to deal with the period is, is, is what i feel. daniel rice do boycotts of whether they're of, of athletes or artists, or any anyone in culture, do they ultimately make
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a difference? and by making a difference, i mean, do they force the person or the regime that's being targeted to, to change their position, to change that policy? it to pass. i mean, the boy called on epic, i was suddenly successful. and south africa was for a long period of time excluded from international spots. when we study the highest point in what might have been one reason it was a boy called the station games in the sixties and seventies. and was that expand from sporting ration and is now a member of your case. so this has been satisfied overall architecture. optimist bought the piece and can compete with each other regardless of different ideologies, politics, religions, and so on. so this should be like really an exception to boy because
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otherwise that international system what not function. i can just share something from discussions with my mike. so they had been critic and said they are dotted because many western countries, except the treatment also part of opinion and not quite but my wife is now different from ukraine. this is true. i a, she had a criticism, i think wrong. acting in one case doesn't justify wrong in another case. and we are really in a very tragic situation. give them a sense since russia has at nuclear weapons. so then we do the risk of like a conflict. so i think why i'm in general again, why i think in exceptional circumstances like this one is justified. what you of you and that then l alexi. sometimes things like this are justified and culture
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and sport in general, as unfortunate as it is, will become a kind of collateral damage to, to, to action, serve such as rushes actions in ukraine was left. i'll be very blunt about it. i don't support what's going on in ukraine. i lived in ukraine. i know this country very well and i, i've been in shops since day one. there is no justification to me as to what's happening, that it cannot be justified in any way. but at the same time, there's another side to the story that almost i feel like i am russian and i'm evil by default. and that is not true, because if you look at how much this country has given to the world culture, why sports, why? i just came back from aging olympics. i spoke to numerous athletes from all over the world from australia. it's a more way and you know, we already had a situation in beijing when everyone started talking about russia. yeah. not for
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a good reason, not for about reason, but for another doping scandal adobe allegations against i speaker states and i spoke to minneapolis and they said listen, if they kick you out from sports, this will be a big loss to us because russians are among the strongest, atkins to compete against russians are brewing to be a very hard competition for us. so if you are just gone from the face of the sports, you will just win all metals and would normally be fun for us. it's not going to be as competitive as it was. we never tend to think about that and talk about that in the context of what's going on in your grades. especially if you look at what's happening, what's been happening in the past with military things all over the world and very few countries were actually punished for it. remember was lot of course they weren't kicked out, but he woke up for their onslaught which, which was happening there. but other than that, there are just very few examples of the same thing happening to russia right now. indeed, the world is coming together, criticizing rushes,
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actions and ukraine bus. the long lasting effect of, you know, i'd have them culture and sports will be, will be felt them. the shops will be really raising a cost to bless again, simply because russia has a big place in sports and culture worldwide. and you know, what saddens me the most for this matter is that things like sports and culture. they should be uniting people in this case. they are only like putting people even further apart, especially in the game. when can you essentially use? and i can tell you that the reaction here in russia is being very negative about that. you add to the notion that, you know, do those supporting the actions and you're going to say ok, they're sanctioning our athletes. they're kicking out our musicians and things like that. it makes people even more angry. so what good does it for, resolution on this matter? i have no idea, let's, let's put this back to natalia briefly to point to alexi makes there, i mean, our, our sports and also both and acted as a bridge between cultures and nation. so by punishing the practitioners of those
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things don't, don't risk burning bridges. well, bruce bridges have been burned by the rid, there's really not much to repair at the moment. and ms. watson divides everybody, which is why who is, was making this world wide workplace by his actions. so, unfortunate as it is, as, as it has been mentioned that some of those athletes who don't make too much money or not will be with that list i put in the position where they can't compete. well, unfortunate, but that is the price you pay for competing for the country. that is led by a bloody dictator. that is just how it is. ok that's. that's the term we used for a long time when he wasn't completely justified. now unfortunately, it is. he's a blood. oh so everybody collateral damage and on that we are going to have to leave is thank you very much to all 3 of you, natalia, and even lexia to ship sky. and daniel rice, thanks so much for being on a side story. and thank you, as always for watching rema,
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