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b u. s. engages with the rest of the world. i cover foreign policy national here warranty. this is a political im house here the paul ford are withholding a good story. we're really interested in taking you in to a place that you might not visit otherwise. it actually feels that you were there. i i have from you. okay. and join the stream. a wave of progressive politicians have been elected across latin america in what has been described as a pink tied a turn to the left. have a look at this map and you'll see exactly what i mean. this new wave started backing 2018 in mexico with unrest. manuel lopez abra door. since then on juris panama, diana serene. m. peru, olivia, argentina, and most recently chilly have welcomed left wing lead it. so what does this mean

for the region and the world, or today's guest again to help us answer that question. hello, isabel oliver and theresa. i'd say nice to have all 3 of you, a great brains to tackle this question. isabel, please introduce yourself to our audience around the world. hi, as well as the year i'm a political scientist and a researcher at the catholic university in cio at the center for conflict and haitian studies. here in santiago oliver tell the street audience who you are, what me day. i am over civil who am a professor of international relations at these it to las vegas foundation. and so all of brazil, i welcome back to teresa teresa, please introduce yourself. were my now audience. you are what? 80? well, my name is theresa. boy, i'm a latin american correspondent for algebra. all right, and you already have your, what's your new g right now? you are very much part of this conversation. the comments section is now live, jumping to the comment section. if you've got questions or comments for our panel,

they're very happy to answer them. all right, let's start teresa with pink, tight. as far as you're concerned, when you're done on the ground in latin america, what does it look like? how would you describe it in more detail? vote and well we have if i have to look back and we talk about a pink time and we talk about what it is about reforming the region as a whole, always looking back to when abortion was bigger lives in argentina, it was a very long night for us, waiting for a vote can senate, and you could see thousands and thousands and thousands of people on the streets waiting for abortion to meet be legalized in this country. and it's not only to be legalized. abortion is something that was already happening in argentina, mostly for women where effected and let's not forget that this is a country of pope francis on the influence. the catholic church has had in different argentinian governments in congress, in the senate. so when abortion was neglected like that, the 1st, you know,

it was very moving to see how grassroots movement in the region and how that inspired other parts of latin america and poland. what happened after that, you know, the whole debate in columbia in mexico, in t la. so when, when we talk about the title fight for from economic policies from center left government, i'm also talking about it writes about rights in the region for minorities, for women. and that's something that, that it's been very, very, very exciting for me to watch. oliver, i see you nodding, please articulate that nod. well, i think we certainly have seen a progress when it comes to minority rights, women's rights, etc. at the same time, i think it's important to point out that parts of the pink tied also profoundly conservative. so of an old school nationalist left wing, social conservative,

like many of the iconic figures of latin america left morale is child is a fidel castro. we're all, you know, pretty homophobic. and, and there are some of these which are part of this new iteration of the pink time, like a studio in peru who's fairly conservative. but i do agree that there is a new generation of leaders like bodies, for example, in chile, which are clearly i think have the potential particularly if they do well to redefine what it means to be a progressive and in latin america. i'm so glad you said that. i'm just gonna bring in isabel here because definitely when gabrielle bright, she was and i think people were while a student activist now becomes a lead out of chill. i was a shock. was it a shot fiction? how did you see that coming? well, i could see it coming up at the 1st round with a bit of the prize because the runner up was a far right candidate. so that was somewhat an extract that but for

a while party had had the lead. but it was all, i mean, if you had looked 5 years ago, no one would have expected or partly have to do with the social uprising that begun and late. 2019. that sort of shifted all politics of the country. and i think it's part of the reason why, but each ascended and i think he's a great example of this new left us and sorry, yeah, yeah, oliver were saying the things like how they relate to the feminist movement. ed to feminist agenda is one of the things that clearly did by different brands of left left and got the brands in the region. isabel allow me to be trivial for one moment because i'm going to show a picture on my laptop. so this is gabrielle burridge.

i was talking about this picture with my produce and he's just got thought he's got to tooth, it's audio and he's like, yeah, that's it. but i've never seen a need to refer to it now. i'm sure the audience will then as in tweets and all the leaders who have to choose. but i think there's something in this pitch, although it seems quite like holidays that tells you a lot about well chilly is because there are many other countries around the world who if you're 15, you're still considered young to be a leader. yeah, no, he just turned 30 thanks. he doesn't wear a tie. that's one of the things he didn't even where tied to when he took office and he has a much more direct relationship with with citizens like he left. so now that he's taken office, but he's often on twitter and interacting with people. and a lot of people feel dogs are proud of lots of children and families waiting for

him to get home to be able to speak to him. so it's not just much that the tooth or, or the like at the top, but there's the clearly more horizontal relationship between him and the population that, well, we are used to, especially with the law government, often who is actually twice his age. so it's a, there's a big gap there. i think that the generation gap between board each and the rest of the president, even though their progressive in that in america is fascinating. mostly because of what we have, you know, heard him say, i mean what he said, for example, about condemning human rights abuses wherever they are in they cut out what, in venezuela and even cuba, this is something where most government in the region, if you want to compare it with no longer in brazil or albert, remember, they have been reluctant in a way to condemn bennett when i went, protesters were killed among other things. so body has been very, very serious about human rights. for example,

about macroeconomic policies in the country. one big, big challenge for a latin american government have been stability, economic stability, especially for example here in argentina or in venezuela. where we've seen while, you know, the millions of people living the country because of the enormous economic crisis in the country. well, argentina and other problem, lots of macroeconomic problems, inflation rates are storing right now. you're in the, in the argentine as a whole body just says that keeping, you know, economic stability, preserving the macroeconomy of the country is also a priority for his administration. i think that's a very, very interesting because, you know, it's a new left as you said it before, so we'll have to see what he can do with that. all of the i want to play you a video comment. this comes from martin. he said this into us a few hours ago, haven't listen. he has a different explanation about the pink ties. and then as soon as you finish listening and love your response,

his martin we can see i don't see both. i see you 1st movement, light and power in a new political cycle and these political cycle, i will not make a mistake to call it a 2nd being because represent different flavors of politics. art center like social movements that are just a bunch of you to start to be some i'd like to show you justice. i will call these something like a multi color people site. yeah, i think he's pointing to a several important differences when we compare this new ping tied to the leaders who emerged in the 2000 and i think 2 issues stand out. the 1st is the environment that there's clearly now, i mean, voltage is, is very concerned about environmental issues. very different from our past, a progressive, a left governments in latin america. we see the same with the leading presidential

candidate in columbia pit through who's in a, in a way and, and environmentalists as well. and the workers party in brazil despite not really having prioritize this issue, will clearly embrace if they win a more environmentalist policy. the other issue is that yes, a body has a very different background and in so grew and grew up in social movements and which occurred within the context of, of democracy. whereas past leaders in latin america who came to power in the 2 thousands, many of them were engaged in the fight for democracy. lula for example, became the politician during the dictatorship, very different political context. and of course, a, you know, issues like women's rights were not really on the agenda 20 years ago. and that is quite a challenge for some leaders who seeking to engage conservative voters as well. lula for example, has just picked or is likely to pick. and now and a present in the next days, a conservative

a vice presidential candidate. so am he may also face some limit is when it comes to, you know, a prioritizing these issues which points to the fact that countries like chile and argentina perhaps are a bit more progressive as societies than other countries like mexico, columbia, and brazil. theresa, i'm just thinking of this history off the pink tie. this is almost pink, tight the sea. cool. because in the late nineties to early 2, thousands, there was another paint tide. i'm thinking about the differences. i'm not the only one valentina sent us this comment a little bit earlier. have a listen and then your thoughts pace. there's not only one left slight now and see that there's different let types of left. there is also political parties, but political movements that are representative of law left wing parties now here in color. so if they think different, they do things differently. so it's very interesting to see if things are going to work out for the government and people do have high expectations about what coming

they are positive of this. but as we can tell are among history, if things don't always go as they wish. so we're gonna have to see if the things go like people one or there's gonna be some kinds of disappointment within the government that has been now alleged when i think about the big difference between what happened back in the early 2, thousands with the governmental, travis of the time, next location in argentina lula. you know, it's a completely different region in a way, at the time this whole pink tide, if you want it that way, was led by all those so called social revolution. venezuela was leading at the time a latin america. twin was assisting governments in the regions that were regional alliance. he's being made all the time that supported each other. what i'm seeing right now is, 1st of all, the disappoints, made in

a way that happened with venezuela. the enormous economic crisis that happened. we're talking about a country that suffered around a 1000000 percent inflation rate that's forced around $5000000.00 people out of the country. so the whole disenchantment with what happened in venezuela is not happening right now. so i'm seeing at least in the region and federal government in the region, lots of crack matches and i'm seeing pragmatism in america for a man this year in argentina that she stresses the need for argentina to negotiate with the international monetary fund for the risk of being completely isolated from the rest of the world and not be from international market, their risk is much bigger. so i think that while, while leaders back in the early 2 thousands were anti american in a way or challenging the united states. well, i think the leadership right now is much more willing to engage, to engage with the united states, to engage with superpowers. and i think that way it makes it interesting, but of course it doesn't satisfy everyone we're seeing right now, for example,

demonstrations by the left him when a site is that are condemned in the government or world to the protest. but with, from, from the coalition, from the ruling coalition, beth is the left side of that coalition, but it's also on the streets, demanding that there would be measures are not implemented. so of course there's going to be lots of challenges, but among the leadership, at least i'm seeing lots of pragmatism when dealing with everyday problem is just like a double go. yeah. you got 1st oliver, you got a 2nd then she was going to go, sir, because i got a really juicy question for you. israel go ahead. yes, great. now i would add a couple of points to those comparison with the early, 2000 and the 1st the, the economy. so in the early, 2, thousands that was nice. the government came to power when there was a commodity to so all of our economies are based in commodities. so there was a lot of money resources to expand social policies. so that also facilitated their

success. and i think a 2nd difference now is that as opposed to what was chavez or korea, in ecuador, or bolivia, where they changed their, their constitutions. and they were generally popular and had big support through tangling with the rules as well in congress. now all of these are very tenuous coalitions. the body doesn't have a majority in congress. if federal is elected, they just had the legislative election and he won't have a majority lies also entering in coalition for the same reason. and not just tina, the parent is the last the majority in congress. so all of these come collisions are quite weak and that will also partly limit what they can do, but present by the different scenario from compared to the early 2000 oliver. i think that in addition to the much tougher economic environment or in some it

sometimes feel in talking to people across the region that people are also growing a bit tired of the extreme polarization that has shaped the political to me, at least in brazil. this is very clear, people just want to sort of get lead us to do to get things done, to deliver a good public policies and lola's decision to bring in a conservative on his presidential ticket, kind of shows that he's clearly he clearly believes that this cycle of extreme polarization is over, which has shape politics and the last years. so i do, i tend to agree, i think there's quite some potential for pragmatism also because it's just such a difficult economic time. that it's, the region that has probably suffered most in the world are during the pandemic, a tremendous reversal in the areas of public health, public education. so i think people are really focusing now on issues like unequal inequality, red bud issues reduction of poverty. okay. and that's one of the reasons that

explains the rise of the left. oliver chalka is watching you right now. and she out and says he's from brazil. i would like to know what you guys think. all of that. about maternity isn't really tiny back to the president say what do you think? i why i think he's, he's leaving the polls and i think he is he his gestures are clearly showing that he'd like to attract centrist voters. he, he likes to project a big tent alternative, who's able sonata, i think, is going to be much closer than many people believe that there is a lot of doubt about where the most that a would accept defeat or whether we'll see something similar to a general 6 in the united states, but he's clear lula is clearly the failure for united. thank. that's not bad. that was, and i'm sure we have very similar rhetoric about, you know, but from both of questioning the legitimacy of the voting system. but i would still expect right now, looking at the polls, i think, lula, clearly the favor to return after 20 years,

to back to the presidency. another huge question is, what i'm going to put to you is about will davis says, so this conversation about the pain tied, it depends on the kind of left we're talking about. i left that wants to redistribute wealth to the bottom is useful. i left that just wants to put more diverse people in charge of a failing system is no good. that will david his perspective. what's your date of l? i think they're both complementary. i mean, part of the demand here until, but i don't think it's, i mean the way up to the country is to renew political li, columbia. they has a similar demand. we don't want the same people in power, so this is strong on pay, stablish meant, and this generational change here until a point to that as well. people want to see new faces and hopefully new different practices. and of course, a company that would structural reform, but i think people are very distrustful of

traditional politicians. so i think that bring in a new people, if it's a tends to be well valued here entirely. definitely. i think it's a, it's a not rare. i think we'll see that in other countries. yes, i want to push us on in the last 5 minutes of our discussion into what the impact of this pink tie could be. rule policies change rules, different things happen for the people on the ground. angela vergara is a professor at the california state university and she's looking at extractive industries and how a maybe a different approach to those extractive industries may have an impact on what changes in each of the countries that have a less a left this leader. he is, angela. he except it's so much better than i justi. he is one of the biggest challenge them near left this government face to day in latin america is held the

response to it. they environment, the consequences of i struck davis industry. i'm renting this for the quarterly randeman today because it in the past, but we can car the 13 ration off being died leaders. they responded this by nationalizing instructor base industry. and by using that money to finance social services, an infrastructure project, a debate, this becomes a little bit more complicated because they evident environment, the cost of that impact on indigenous communities. so you know what i'm thinking oliver is if you have a well for fossil fuels, but your philosophy, your politics tells you that you shouldn't be using them. you should be protecting the environment. what do you do? what funds your social policies, oliver? well, for example, in columbia, petro is clearly saying he wants to move away from fossil fuels. i'm instructive,

industries wants to boost tourism, for example. that will of course, be a challenge because there's a lot of short term needs. and one way to address them is to fall back to the old developing development models in chile 2, i think many will watch closely whether the transition, the economic transition that the body is proposing will work out. because when we look at other left wing governments in the region that has been, they've been clinging on to traditional ways of doing business, i think a lot will depend on how chilly will perform, which in many ways i think could inspire others. or look at julie and say, this is not how want to go about developing the economy. so i think that definitely the country will to watch on for the next month. and yours is about, i'm wondering if what is happening in chile right now is seen as a positive development, a positive change in politics. his fear with quite a complicated question, i would love to have a listen to. i responded to these governments are coming to power on the heels of

latin america's worst recession since independence. so for the past 200 years, latin america never experienced as the bad side of economic conditions as it did during these pandemic years. so that's one major constraint. a 2nd is that most of these governments will govern under conditions of what we call divided government. meaning that they do not have majorities are actually anywhere near close to majorities in the legislatures of their countries. that means that in order to get any legislation passed, they will need to dialogue negotiate with and even ally with centrist or even right of center parties in some cases in order to get any legislation. pat. so you have a young leader in chalet, you know, as a student, so much promise will be delivered. well, that's the $1000000.00 question. so yeah,

thea said and we discussed before. he doesn't have a majority. but i think there is a window of opportunity. partly because we had the social uprising, we are in the middle of a constitutional process. so summer, at least a summer leads are aware that changes are needed because there are demands and needs to be met. right. so there is, there's an opportunity to do that. and, and bore it has push that form of structural change in its program, but also recognizing that he need to speak to big business. so there's this, there's a balance there, there is under construction, there are carrying out big dialogue. and to do that with a focus on protecting the environment, pushing new industries such as green energy and with a feminist focus. so for example, in terms of recovering employment that pointed to focusing on women's employment,

which was had the hardest. all right, if i want to go back to the map that i thought it was at the very beginning. so i'm just gonna put that up. teresa, i'm in the last one minute of the show. i'm just looking at this pink tie, this pink wait, however you want to think about it for the region. what does that mean for the rest of the world in the last 30 seconds of today's shot? well i think it's, it's an experiment in a way mostly t lay to see what body can do, what he can achieve with lots of conservative forces against him. and that's something that we've seen in the region as a whole. we've seen progressive governments in the region fighting against more conservative forces in i lying in a way with conservative more system able to reach some type of an agreement and, and going back to the whole extract, bellamy. sure. the big challenge for many countries is the equality that poverty that continue speak this year. the amount of people that depend on the state and how those states are able to make sure that it's right to,

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