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russian troops, rush appears to be relying on missile and rocket attacks as its ground forces struggled to seize control of major cities, ukraine's president his call for demonstrations around the world against the russian invasion. starting from march 24th, exactly one months after the russian invasion from these day and after them shawl you're standing, come from your offices, your homes, your schools and universities come in the name of peace. come with ukrainian symbols to support you, great to support freedom to support life. come to your squares, your streets, make yourselves winnable and cured. see that people matter. freedom matters, piece matters. ukraine matters of people in mighty you, paul said finally able to bury the dead. one woman whose step father died almost 2 weeks ago, was unable to dig his grade because the ground was too frozen. until now,
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the city authorities say more than 2400 civilians have been killed since rushes invasion began. us president joe biden has arrived in brussels to meet nato and european leaders and talk through new sanctions. nato plans to double the number of forces on its eastern borders, and it's also expected to send more a t claim. french comic a rental has halted operations that it's a plant in moscow. it's also deciding what to do with its majority stake in rushes . number one, call make an active as the french patrol, petro giant, total energy says it will stop buying oil from russia by the end of the year. but the company will continue to buy liquefied natural gas from russia. it c o says whole thing it's purchased could force a partial economic shut down in europe. those are the headlines. the stream is next . talk to al jazeera, we also do you believe that the french invasion of ukraine is currently the biggest
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threat to international peace and security? we listen, we are focusing so much on the humanitarian crisis that we forget. the long term development we meet with global news makers. i'm talk about the story stuck matter on al jazeera. i think i have some. yeah. okay. and join the stream. a wave of progressive politicians have been elected across latin america in what has been described as a pink tied a turn to the left. have a look at this map and you'll see exactly what i mean. this new wave started back in 2018, a mexico with unders. manuel. nope. has upper door. since then on juris panama, diana serena, peru, olivia, argentina, and most recently chilly have welcomed left wing lead it. so what does this mean for the region and the world, or today's guest again to help us answer that question. hello,
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isabel oliver and teresa. i'd say nice to have all 3 of you, a great brains to tackle this question. isabel, please introduce yourself to our audience around the world. hi, as well as the year i'm a political scientist and our researcher at the catholic university in cio at the center for conflict and haitian studies. here in santiago oliver tell the stream audience who you are, what you day i am over civil. i'm a professor of international relations at these italy, vargas foundation. and so all of brazil i welcome back to teresa teresa. please introduce yourself with my now audience. you. i want you to well, my name is theresa, boy, i'm a latin american correspondent for out the writing dish. all right, and you already have your, what's your youtube right now? you are very much part of this conversation. the comments section is now live, jump to the comment section. if you've got questions or comments for our panel, they're very happy to answer them. all right, let's start teresa with pink, tight. as far as you're concerned, when you're done on the ground in latin america,
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what does it look like? how would you describe a more detail vote in? well we have, if i have to look back and we talk about a pink kite and if we talk about what it is about reforming the region as a whole, always looking back to when abortion was bigger lives, you know, i mean, it was a very long night for us waiting for a vote can senate and you could see thousands and thousands and thousands of people on the streets waiting for abortion to meet be legalized in this country. and it's not only to be legalized. abortion is something that was already happening in argentina. mostly for women where affected and let's not forget that this is a country of folk, francis the influence, the catholic church has had in different argentinian governments in congress, in the senate. so when abortion was neglected, like the 1st, you know, it was very moving to see how grassroots movement in the region and how that
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inspired other parts of latin america. and what happened after that, you know, the whole debate in columbia in mexico, in sheila, so when we talk about being tied to high court from economic policies from her left government. i'm also talking about rights about rights in the region for minorities, for women. and that's something that it's been very, very, very exciting for me to watch. although i see you nodding, please articulate that nod. well, i think we certainly have seen a progress when it comes to an order to rights, women's rights, etc. at the same time, i think it's important to point out that parts of the ping tied also profoundly conservative. so if an old school nationalist left wing, social, conservative, like many of the iconic figures of latin america, left morale is child is a,
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fidel castro were all, you know, pretty homophobic. and, and there are some of these which are part of this new iteration of the pink time, like a studio in peru who's fairly conservative. but i do agree that there is a new generation of leaders like bodies, for example, in chile, which are clearly i think have the potential particularly if they do well to redefine what it means to be a progressive and in latin america. i'm so glad you said that. i'm just gonna bring in isabel here because definitely when company operate, she was and i think people were while a student activist now becomes a leader of chill. i was a shock. was it a shot fiction? how did you see that coming? well, i could see it coming up at the 1st round with a bit of the price because the runner up was a far right candidate. so that was somewhat unexpected, but for a while party had had the lead. but it was all, i mean,
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if you had looked 5 years ago, no one would have expected, hardly has to do with the social app for i think that begun and late 2019, that sort of shifted all politics of the country. and i think it's part of the reason why, but each ascended and i think he's a great example of this new left and sorry, yeah, yeah, oliver were saying things like how they relate to the feminist movement. ed to feminist agenda is one of the things that clearly did by different brands of left left and got the brands in the region. isabel allow me to be trivial for one moment because i'm going to show a picture on my laptop. so this is gabrielle burridge. i was talking about this picture with my produce and my but he's just got so he's
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got to tease is audio and he's like, yeah, that's it. but i've never seen a liter we've tattoos. now i'm sure the audience will then sound as in tweets of all the leaders who have tattoos. but i think there's something in this picture, although it seems quite like halting that tells you not about well actually is because there are many other countries around the world who if you 15, you'll still considered young to be a leader. yeah. yeah, no, he's just turned 30 thanks. he doesn't wear a tie. that's one of this. thank. they didn't even where it tied to when he took office and he has a much more direct relationship with, with citizen read like he left. so now that he's at taken office, but he's off and on twitter and interacting with people. and a lot of people feel that there are crowds all, lots of children and families waiting for him to get home to be able to speak to him. so it's not just the image that, that the tooth or the lack of a tie,
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but there's that really more horizontal relationship between him and the population that, well, we are used to, especially with us last are government opinion who is actually twice his age. so it's a, there's a big gap there. i think that the generation gap between bodied and the rest of the precedent, even though the progressive in that in america is fascinating. mostly because of what we have, you know, heard him say, i mean what he said, for example, about condemning human rights abuses wherever they are in they cut out what, in venezuela and even cuba, this is something where most government in the region, if you want to compare it with in brazil or better. remember they have been reluctant in a way to condemn bennett when i went, protestors were killed among other things. so body has been very, very serious about human rights. for example, about macroeconomic policies in the country. one big, big challenge for
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a latin american government have been the ability economic stability, especially for example here in argentina or in venezuela, where we've seen why, you know, the millions of people living the country because of the enormous economic crisis in the country while argentine and other problems, lots of macroeconomic problems, inflation rates are storing right now you're in, in the argentine as a whole body just as that keeping you know, economic stability, preserving the macroeconomy of the country is also a priority for he's administrate and i think that's a very, very interesting because, you know, it's a new left as you said it before, so we'll have to see what he can do with that. all of the i want to play you a video comment. this comes from martin. he said this into a few hours ago. haven't listen, he has a different explanation about the pink ties. and then as soon as you finish listening, i love your response. his martin we can see, i don't see, also makes the difference is a movement as me like and power in
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a new political cycle. and this political cycle, i will not make that mistake to call it a 2nd being a guy because represent different flavors of politics. are center like social movements that are just a bunch of either struck to be some i'd like to show you just this. i will call these something like a multi colored people. yeah, i think he's pointing to a several important differences when we compare this new ping tied to the leaders who emerged in the 2000. and i think 2 issues stand out. the 1st is the environment that there's clearly now, i mean, voltage is, is very concerned about environmental issues. there are different from our past, the progressive a left governments in latin america. we see the same with the leading presidential candidate and colombia pay through who's in a, in a wayne and environmentalists as well. and the workers party in brazil despite not
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really having prioritize this issue, will clearly embrace if they win a more environmentalist policy. the other issue is that yes, a body has a very different background and in so grew and grew up in social movements and which occurred within the context of democracy. whereas past leaders in latin america who came to power in the 2 thousands, many of them were engaged in the fight for democracy. lula for example, became the politician during the dictatorship, very different political context. and of course, you know, issues like women's rights were not really on the agenda 20 years ago. and that is quite a challenge for some leaders who seeking to engage conservative voters as well. lula, for example, has just picked or is likely to pick and, and now in a present, in the next days, a conservative a vice presidential candidate. so am, he may also face some limit, is when it comes to, you know,
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a and prioritizing these issues. which points to the fact that countries like chile and argentina perhaps are a bit more progressive as societies than other countries like mexico, columbia, and brazil. theresa, i'm just thinking of this history of the pink tie. this is almost pink, tight the sea. cool. because in the late ninety's, early 2 thousands, there was another paint tide. i'm thinking about the differences. i'm not the only one valentina sent us this comment a little bit earlier. have a listen. and then your thoughts pace. there's not only one lack spite now into their separate let types of left. there is also political parties, but political movements that are representative of law left wing parties now here in senior. so if they think death when they do things differently. so it's very interesting to see if things are gonna work out for the government and people do have high expectations about what's coming. they are positive of this,
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but as we can tell are among history things don't always go as they wish. so we're gonna have to see if the things go alike people want, or there's gonna be some kinds of disappointment within the government that has been now alleged that when i think about the big difference between what happened back in the early 2, thousands where the governmental travis at the time, next location in argentina lula. you know, it's a completely different region in a way, at the time this whole pink tide, if you want it that way, was a lead by all those so called toaster. the revolution venezuela was leading other time a latin america. venezuela was assisting governments in the regions there were regional alliance. he's being made all the time that supported each other. what i'm seeing right now is, 1st of all, the disappointments in a way that happened with venezuela, the enormous economic crisis that happened. we're talking about
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a country that suffered around a 1000000 percent inflation rate that forced around $5000000.00 people out of the country. so the whole disenchantment with what happened in venezuela is not happening right now. so i'm seeing at least in the region and federal government in the region, lots of pragmatism. i'm seeing pragmatism in america for a man this year in argentina, that she stresses the need for argentina to negotiate with the international monetary fund for the risk of being completely isolated from the rest of the world and not be from international market. their risk is much bigger. so i think that while, while leaders back in the early 2 thousands were anti american in a way or challenging the united states. well, i think the leadership right now is much more willing to engage, to engage with the united states, to engage with superpowers. and i think that way it makes it interesting, but of course it doesn't satisfy everyone we're seeing right now, for example, demonstrations by the left him when a site is that our condemn him, the government,
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or world and the protest. but we're from the coalition from the ruling coalition. beth is the left side of that coalition, that it's also on the streets, demanding that there would be measures are not implemented. so of course there's going to be lots of challenges, but among the leadership, at least i'm seeing lots of pragmatism when dealing with everyday problem. if i can double go, yeah. if you go fast, oliver, you go 2nd, then she was going to go, sir, cuz i got a really good question when you is well, go ahead. yes, great. now i would add a couple of points to those comparison with the early, 2000 and so far as the economy. so in the early, 2, thousands that was nice. the government came to power when there was a commodity bill. so all of our economies are based in commodities, so there was a lot of money resources to expand social policies, but that also facilitated their success. and i think
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a 2nd difference now is that as opposed to what was chavez or korea, in ecuador, or bolivia, where they changed their, their constitutions. and they were generally popular and had big support through tangling with the rules as well in congress. now all of these are very tenuous coalitions. the body doesn't have a majority in congress. if it's elected they just had the legislative elections and he won't have the majority lies also entering in coalition for the same reason. and not just tina pernice for the last the majority in congress. so all of these come collisions are quite weak and that will also partly limit what they can do, but present by the different scenario from compared to the early. 2000 oliver i think, says in addition to the much tougher economic environment, or in some, it sometimes feel in talking to people across the region that people are also
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growing a bit tired of the extreme polarization that has shaped the political that made, at least in brazil, this is very clear people just want to sort of get leaders to do to get things done, to deliver good public policies. and lola's decision to bring in a conservative on his presidential ticket kind of shows that he's clearly, he clearly believes that this cycle of extreme polarization is over, which has shape politics and the last years. so i do, i tend to agree, i think there's quite some potential for pragmatism also because it's just such a difficult economic time that it's the region that has probably suffered most in the world during the pandemic. a tremendous reversal in the areas of public health, public education. so i think people are really focusing now on issues like unequal inequality, red, but the issues reduction of poverty. okay, and that's one of the reasons that explains the rise of the left. oliver chalka is watching you right now. antioch and says he's from brazil. i would like to know
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what you guys think oliver about the chances of luna tiny back to the president say what do you think? i what i think he's, he's leaving the polls and i think his, he, his gestures are clearly showing that he'd like to attract centrist voters. he, he likes to project a big tent alternative to valuable sonata. i think it's going to be much closer than many people believe there's a lot of doubt about where the bus that a would accept defeat or whether we'll see something similar to a general 6 in the united states. but he's clear lula is clearly the failure for united, right. that's not that. that was, and i'm sure we have very similar rhetoric about, you know, from both of questioning the legitimacy of the voting system. but i would still expect right now, looking at the polls, i think likely that favorite to return after 20 years to back to the presidency. another huge question is, what i'm going to put to you is about will davis says,
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so this conversation about the pain tied, it depends on the kind of left we're talking about. i left at once to redistribute wealth, to the bottom is useful. i left that just wants to put more diverse people in charge of a failing system is no good. that's will david his perspective. what's your date of? well, i think they're both complementary. i mean, part of the demand here until, but i don't think it's, i mean, the way closer to the country is to renew political ally. colombia thing has a similar demand. we don't want the same people in power, so there's a strong stablish med and this generational change here. and sheila point to that as well. people want to see new faces and hopefully new different practices. and of course, a company that would structural reform. but i think people are very distrustful off of traditional politicians. so i think that bring in a new people, if it's
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a tends to be well valued here into your lead. definitely. i think it's, it's not rare. i think we'll see that in other countries. yes, i want to push us on in the last 5 minutes of our discussion into what the impact of this pink tie could be. rule policies change rules, different things happen for the people on the ground. and you have a gall ray is a professor at the california state university and she's looking at extractive industries and how a may be a different approach to those extractive industries may have an impact on what changes in each of the countries that have a less a left his leader. he is angela. he says it's so much better than i just did his yes. one of the biggest challenge then you left his girlfriend face to day in latin . america is held the response to it. they environment, the consequences of i stack davis industry and
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a team this for the quarterly randeman today because it him the bus. but we can't car the 13 ration offing died leaders. they responded this by nationalizing, instructive as industry. and by using that money to finance social services, an infrastructure project that debate because it will be more complicated because they evident environment, the cost of that impact on indigenous communities. so you know what i'm thinking oliver is if you have a well for fossil fuels, but your philosophy, your politics tells you that you shouldn't be using them. you should be protecting the environment. what do you do? what funds your social policies, oliver? well, for example, in columbia, petro is clearly saying he wants to move away from fossil fuels, when destructive industries wants to boost tourism. for example, that will of course, be a challenge because there's a lot of short term needs. and one way to address them is to fall back to the old
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developing a development models in chile 2, i think many will watch closely whether the transition, the economic transition that border is proposing will work out. because when you look at other left wing governments in the region that has been, they've been clinging on to traditional ways of doing business, i think a lot will depend on how chilly will perform, which in many ways i think could inspire others. or look at julie and say, this is not how 12 ago, about developing the economies. i think that's definitely the country to, to watch out for the next months and years is about i am wondering if what is happening in chile right now is seen as a positive development, a positive change in politics, his fia, with quite a complicated question. i would love to have a nissan to i miss ponti. these governments are coming to power on the heels of latin america's worst recession since independent. so for the past 200 years,
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latin american never experienced as bad as i can on the conditions as it did during these pandemic years. so that's one major constrain a 2nd is that most of these governments will govern under conditions of what we call divided government. meaning that they do not have majority as are actually nowhere near close to majorities in the legislatures of their countries. that means that in order to get any legislation passed, they will need to dialogue negotiate with and even ally with centrist or even right of center parties in some cases in order to get any legislation path. so you have a young leader in chalet, you know, as a student, so much promise will be delivered. well, that's the $1000000.00 question. so yes, the said and we discussed before he doesn't have a majority, but i think there is
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a window of opportunity. partly because we had the social uprising, we are in the middle of a constitutional process. so summer at leap summit leads are aware that changes are needed because there are demands and needs to be met. right. so there is, there's an opportunity to do that. and, and bore it has push that form of structural change in its program, but also right. and i think that he need to speak to big business. so there's this, there's a balance there, there is under construction, there are carrying out big dialogue. and to do that with a focus on protecting the environment, pushing new industries such as green energy and with a feminist focus. so for example, in terms of recovering employment that pointed to focusing on women's employment, which was tend to hardest. all right, it's not that much. i want to go back to the map that i thought it was at the very
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beginning. so i'm just going to put on teresa. i'm in the last one minute of the show. i'm just looking at this pink tie, this pink wave, however you want to think about it for the region. what does that mean for the rest of the world in the last 30 seconds of today's shot? well, i think it's, it's an experiment in a way mostly t let to see what bought each can do what he can achieve with lots of conservative forces against him. and that's something that we've seen in the region as a whole. we've seen progressive governments in the region fighting against more conservative forces and i lying in a way with conservative forces to able to reach some type of an agreement and, and going back to the whole extracted al me. sure. the big challenge for many countries is the equality, the poverty that continues to exist. you're the amount of people that depend on the state and how those states are able to make it into to try to, to change the situation. you're thanking. theresa and oliver and isabel for helping us understand the pink plays across latin america. i'm switching everybody i see
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next time. ah ah ah
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