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forecast to say 5000000 people are still at risk from tornadoes. extremely high winds and large hailstones. are you going here to wind coming through? when i put my family in the bathroom is so we got a bad rom, olive i. e is bob and you just, you just did is neil, you know, you know, it was ah, this is are, does in are, these are the top stories you as president your biden's meeting, nato and g 7 leaders to discuss ways to support ukraine. they're also looking at long term plans to ensure europe, security, nato plans to double its forces on its eastern borders. roches invasion of ukraine is entering a 2nd month, but moscow's forces are facing strong resistance on the ground. thousands of people have been killed and millions have been forced to leave their homes in the past 4 weeks. robin bryan has more from live one month,
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then they have not been greeted by cities and towns across the ukraine, or whether that frustration feeds back up through the chain of command. does it put pressure on putin himself in the kremlin, or indeed disputed feel is frustrated. and that begs the question here in the ukraine. are we coming up to some sort of watershed moment where we might see a change in strategy or concessions from putin or as people here fear, a doubling down and resorting to more deadly? a means which we know that putin has at his disposal. you're going, the 2nd largest city hockey continues to be bombarded. ukrainian forces of fending off russian troops. but hospitals are full of the wounded. now in other news, the former you are secretary of state. madeleine albright has died at the age of 84 . she made us political history in 1997 when she became the 1st woman to serve. and the role of family says she died from cancer. north korea appears to have lost its 1st intercontinental ballistic missiles in 2017. japan says it flew for 71 minutes
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and landed in the sea off the coast of aisle morty. prefecture is the latest in the series of launches by pyongyang. south korea says its convening a meeting of its national security council. a somali member of parliaments among at least 15 people killed in his suicide bombing. it happened in the town of bel atlanta in central. he shall bella state, please say a former politician was also killed and the body of jailed cossack, a nationalist figure. even colona has been moved to the french island following his death in the hospital earlier this week. calona had been in a coma after being assaulted by another prisoner attack, sparked violent protests with demonstrate as accusing the government to be responsible. colona was jailed in 1998 for assassinating a regional official and was the headlines than he is continues here on al jazeera after the string. good by every day in the pool at least 3
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mothers doors won't giving birth in remote areas. one on one days, the bright medics and portals saving the lives of mothers and then you are now to 0 . i i have them. yeah. okay. and join the stream. a wave of progressive politicians have been elected across latin america in what has been described as a pink tied a turn to the left. have a look at this map and you'll see exactly what i mean. this new wave started back in 2018, a mexico with unrest. manuel low pads operate door since then on juris panama, diana serene. m peru, olivia, argentina, and most recently chilly, have welcomed left wing lead it. so what does this mean for the region and the world, or today's guess again, to help us answer that question. hello isabelle. oliver and teresa say nice to have all 3 of you, a great brains to tackle this question. isabel,
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please introduce yourself to our audience around the world. hi, as well as the year i'm a political scientist and our researcher at the catholic university in cio at the center for conflict and haitian studies. here in santiago oliver tell the stream audience who you are, what you do. i am over civil. i'm a professor of international relations at these you blue vargas foundation and so all of brazil i welcome back to teresa teresa. please introduce yourself with my now audience. you, i want you to well, my name is theresa, boy, i'm a latin american correspondent for algebra english. all right, and you already have your, what's your youtube right now? you are very much part of this conversation. the comments section is now live, jump into the comment section. if you've got questions or comments for our panel, they're very happy to answer them. all right, let's start teresa with pink, tight. as far as you're concerned, when you're done on the ground in latin america, what does it look like? how would you describe it in more detail?
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while we have, if i have to look back and we talk about a pink time. and if we talk about what it is about reforming the region as a whole, always looking back to when abortion was big alive, origin. tina was a very long night for us waiting for a vote. can senate and you could see thousands and thousands and thousands of people on the street waiting for abortion to meet be legalized in this country. and it's not only to be legalized. abortion is something that was already happening in argentina, mostly for women where affected and that's not forget that this is a country of folks francis of the influence, the catholic church, has had in different argentinian governments in congress, in the senate. so when abortion was neglected, like the 1st, you know, it was very moving to see how grassroots movement in the region and how that inspired other parts of latin america. and what happens after that, you know,
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the whole debate in columbia, in mexico, in sheila, so when, when we talk about being tied to fight for from economic policies from center left government. i'm also talking about it writes about rights in the region for minorities, for women, and that's something that it's been very, very, very exciting for me to watch. although i see you nodding, please articulate that nod. well, i think we certainly have seen a progress when it comes to minority rights, women's rights, etc. at the same time, i think it's important to point out that parts of the pink tied also profoundly conservative. so of an old school nationalist left wing, social conservative, like many of the iconic figures of latin america left morale is child is a fidel castro. we're all, you know, pretty homophobic. and,
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and there are some of these which are part of this new iteration of the pink time, like a studio in peru who's fairly conservative. but i do agree that there's a new generation of leaders like bodies, for example, in chile, which i clearly i think have the potential particularly if they do well to redefine what it means to be a progressive and in latin america. i'm so glad you said that. i'm just gonna bring in isabel here because definitely when gabrielle bright, she was enacted, people were, while a student activist now becomes a leader of chill. i was a shock. was it a shot fiction? how did you see that coming? well, i could see it coming up at the 1st round with a bit of the prize because the runner up was a far right candidate. so that was somewhat an extract that but for a while party had had the lead. but it was all, i mean, if you had looked 5 years ago, no one would have expected,
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hardly have to do with the social uprising that begun and late. 2019, that sort of shifted all politics of the country. and i think it's part of the reason why, but each ascended and i think he's a great example of this new left and sorry, not. yeah, yeah, oliver were saying the things like how they relate to the feminist movement. ed to feminist agenda is one of the things that clearly did by different brands of left left and got the brands in the region. isabel allow me to be trivial for one moment because i'm going to show a picture on my laptop. so this is gabrielle burridge. i was talking about this picture with my produce and my but he's just got so he's got to tease is audio and he's like, yeah, that's it. but i've never seen
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a liter we've tattoos. now i'm sure the audience will then sound as in tweets of all the leaders you have, tattoos. but i think there's something in this picture, although it seems quite like halting that tells you a lot about well actually is because there are many other countries around the world who if you 15, you'll still considered young to be a leader. yeah. yeah, no, he's just turned 30 thanks. he doesn't wear a tie. that's one of the things they didn't even where it tied to when he took office and he has a much more direct relationship with with that doesn't read like he left. so now that he's at taken office, but he's off and on twitter and interacting with people. and a lot of people feel that they are proud of lots of children and families waiting for him to get home to be able to speak to him. so it's not just the image that, that the tooth or the lack of a tie, but there's that really more horizontal relationship between him and the population
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that, well, we are used to, especially with this last our government opinion, who is actually twice as age. so there's a big gap there. i think that the generation gap between board each and the rest of the president, even though their progressive in that in america is fascinating. mostly because of what we have, you know, heard him say, i mean what he said, for example, about condemning human rights abuses wherever they are in the car, in venice, wheeler and even cuba. this is something where most government in the region, if you want to compare it with no longer in brazil or albert, remember, they have been reluctant in a way to condemn bennett when i went, protesters were killed among other things. so body has been very, very serious about human rights, for example, about macroeconomic policies in the country. one big, big challenge for a latin american government have been stability, economic stability, especially for example here in argentina or in venezuela, where we've seen why,
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you know, the millions of people living the country because of the enormous economic crisis in the country. well, argentina and other problem, lots of macroeconomic problems, inflation rates are storing right now here in, in the argentine as a whole. and body chest says that keeping, you know, economic stability, preserving the macroeconomy of the country is also a priority for his administration. i think that's a very, very interesting because, you know, it's a new left as you said it before, so we'll have to see what he can do with that. all of the i want to play you a video comment. this comes from martin. he said this into a few hours ago, haven't listen. he has a different explanation about the pink ties. and then as soon as you finish listening, i love your response. his martin we can see, i don't see also makes the difference is a movement as me like and power in a new political cycle. and this political cycle,
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i will not make that mistake to call it a 2nd being because represent different flavors of politics. are center like social movements that are just a bunch of you to start to be soon. i'd like to show you justice. i will call these something like a multi colored people. yeah, i think he's pointing to a several important differences when we compare this new ping tied to the leaders who emerged in the 2000 and i think 2 issues stand out. the 1st is the environment that there's clearly now, i mean, voltage is, is very concerned about environmental issues are different from our past, the progressive a left governments in latin america. we see the same with the leading presidential candidate in columbia. it through whose it went away and, and environmentalists as well and the workers party in brazil despite not really having prioritize this issue, will clearly embrace if they win
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a more environmentalist policy. the other issue is that yes, a body has a very different background and, and so grew and grew up in social movements and which occurred within the context of democracy. whereas past leaders in latin america who came to power in the 2 thousands, many of them were engaged in the fight for democracy. lula for example, became the politician during the dictatorship, very different political context. and of course, a issues like women's rights were not really on the agenda 20 years ago. and that is quite a challenge for some leaders who seeking to engage conservative voters as well. lula, for example, has just picked or is likely to pick and, and now in the present and the next day is a conservative a vice presidential candidate. so am he may also face some limit is when it comes to, you know, a and prioritizing these issues which points to the fact that countries like chile
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and argentina perhaps are a bit more progressive as societies than other countries like mexico, columbia, and brazil. theresa, i'm just thinking of this history off the pink tie. this is almost pink, tight the sequel because in the late nineties to early 2, thousands, there was another paint tide. i'm thinking about the differences. i'm not the only one valentina sent us this comment a little bit earlier, have a listen, and then your thoughts pace. there's not only one lex fight now in t to their separate let types of left. there is also political parties, but political movements that are representative of law left wing parties now here in senior. so if they think death friend, they do things differently. so it's very interesting to see if things are gonna work out for the government. and people do have high expectations about what coming they are positive of this. but as we can tell are among history. if things don't always go as they wish. so we're gonna have to see if the things go like people one
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or there's gonna be some kinds of disappointment within the government that has been now elected. when i think about the big difference between what happened back in the early 2, thousands with the governmental travis at the time, next location in argentina, lula. you know, it's a completely different region in a way, at the time this whole pink tide, if you want it that way, was led by all those so called social revolution. venezuela was leading at the time a latin america. and it's when i was assisting governments in the regions that were regional alliance, he's being made all the time that supported each other. what i'm seeing right now is, 1st of all, the disappointment in a way that happened with venezuela, the enormous economic crisis that happened. we're talking about a country that suffered around a 1000000 percent inflation rate that's forced around $5000000.00 people out of the
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country. so the whole disenchantment with what happened in venezuela is not happening right now. so i'm seeing at least in the region and federal government in the region, lots of pragmatism. i'm seeing pragmatism in america for a man this year in oregon. tina that she stresses the need for argentina to negotiate with the international monetary fund for the risk of being completely isolated from the rest of the world and not be from international market. their risk is much bigger. so i think that while, while leaders back in the early 2 thousands were anti american in a way or challenging the united states. well, i think the leadership right now is much more willing to engage, to engage with the united states, to engage with superpowers. and i think that way it makes it interesting, but of course it doesn't satisfy everyone we're seeing right now, for example, demonstrations by the left him when a site is that are condemned in the government. a world can see protest. but with, from, from the coalition, from the ruling coalition,
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beth is the left side of that coalition, but it's also on the streets, demanding that there would be measures are not implemented. so of course there's going to be lots of challenges, but among the leadership, at least i'm seeing lots of pragmatism when dealing with everyday problem. if i can go, yeah, you got 1st oliver, you got a 2nd then she was going to go 3rd, cuz i've got some really good questions when you israel go ahead. yes, great. now i would add a couple points to those comparison with the early 2000. so 1st the, the economy. so in the early 2, thousands, there was these, these to the government came to power when there was a commodity bill. so all of our economies are based and commodities, so there was a lot of money resource that's too expensive social policies, but that also facilitated their success. and i think a 2nd difference now is that as opposed to what was chavez or korea, in ecuador,
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or bolivia, where they changed their, their constitutions. and they were generally popular and had big support through tangling with the rules as well in congress. now all of these are very tenuous coalitions, but it doesn't have a majority in congress. if elected they just had the legislative election and he won't have a majority. like also entering the coalition for the same reason. and not in tina, the parent of the last, the majority in congress. so all of these positions are quite weak and that will also partly limit what they can do, but present quite a different scenario from compared to the early. 2000 oliver i think, says in addition to the much tougher economic environment, or in some, it sometimes feel it all talking to people across the region. that people also growing a bit tired of the extreme polarization that has shaped the political to me,
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at least in brazil. this is very clear. people just want to sort of get leaders to do, to get things done, to deliver good public policies and law as decision to bring in a conservative on his presidential ticket. kind of shows that he's clearly he clearly believes that this cycle of extreme polarization is over, which has shaped politics and the last years. so i do, i tend to agree, i think there's quite some potential for pragmatism also because it's just such a difficult economic time that it's the region that has probably suffered most in the world. a jury the pandemic, a tremendous reversal in the areas of public health, public education. so i think people are really focusing now on issues like unequal inequality, red bud issues reduction of poverty. okay. and that's one of the reasons that explains the rise of the left. oliver chalka is watching you right now and chiana and says he's from brazil. i would like to know what you guys think all about the
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chances of really tiny back to the president say what do you think? i boy, i think he's, he's leaving the polls and i think he is he, his gestures are clearly showing that he'd like to attract centrist voters. he likes to project a big tent alternative to valuable sonata. i think it's going to be much closer than many people believe that there's a lot of doubt about where the most that a would accept defeat or whether we'll see something similar to a general 6 in the united states. but he's clear lula is clearly the favor for united way, right? that's not that as well. i'm sure we have very similar rhetoric about, you know, both on both of questioning the legitimacy of the voting system. but i would still expect right now, looking at the polls, i think, lula, clearly the favorite to return after 20 years, to back to the presidency. another huge question is, what i'm going to put to you is about will davis says, so this conversation about the pain tied, it depends on the kind of left we're talking about. i left at once to redistribute
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wealth, to the bottom is useful. i left that just wants to put more diverse people in charge of a failing system is no good that will david his perspective. what's your sense about i think they're both complimentary. i mean, part of the demand here until, but i don't think it's, i mean the way up to the country is to renew political li columbia thing has a similar demand. we don't want the same people in power. so this is strong context men and this generational change here until a point to that as well. people want to see new faces and hopefully new different practices. and of course, a company that would structural reform, but i think people are very distrustful of traditional politicians. so i think that bring in a new people, if it's a,
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tends to be well valued here until a definitely i think it's not rare. i think we see that in other countries. yes, i want to push us on in the last 5 minutes of our discussion into what the impact of this pink tie could be. rule policies change rule, different things happen for the people on the ground. angela vergara is a professor at the california state university and she's looking at extractive industries and how a maybe a different approach to those extractive industries may have an impact on what changes in each of the countries that have a less left. this leader is angela. she except it's so much better than i, justine hideous. one of the biggest challenge them new left this government face today in latin america is held the response to it then bar amount. the consequences of i struck this industry. i'm renting this for the quarterly randeman today. because it in the past,
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but we can car the 1st generation of being died leaders. they responded this by nationalizing, instructive as industry. and by using that money to finance social services, an infrastructure project. that the best because it would be more complicated because they evident environment, the cost of that impact on indigenous communities. so you know what, i'm thinking oliver is if you have a well for fossil fuels, ah, your, to our da 0, we're taking you to brussels and natal headquarters where the u. s. president joe biden is arriving for natal talks. they're going to be talking about the russian invasion of ukraine. they're going to be talking about a variety of different elements of the invasion. mr. biden's meeting on thursday with natal members is also going to be followed by a session with counterparts from the group of 7 industrialized powers and then with
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the european union. and the last one is gonna include an appearance by president vladimir zalinski of ukraine. that's likely to take place via video link from a key in the capital of ukraine. that discussion is expected to look at ways to further tightened the already severe western economic sanctions on russia that are aimed at fresh arising, the president of russia, vladimir putin, into halting the war. we're waiting for a president biden to step out of the car. it is likely that he is going to make his way up past the gaggle of her press, people who are waiting at the sight of that blue carpet we'll watch as, as that happens. we understand that mister biden is trying to steal the allies for the likelihood that this is going to be a long conflict. so back in the early days of the ukrainian war, russia appears to have been intense, that it was going to be of a short lived conflict that is no longer the case where now full weeks into that conflict and already we're beginning to see the results of a much longer conflicts,
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and we understand that mr. biden and other members are that attendees at this near to conference are preparing both the their own countries, as well as the people within their countries that this are ukrainian conflict is going to be long and drawn out and see their, mr. biden. being greeted by jim stoughton berg, the secretary general of nato, as they're standing outside metal headquarters there, there are certain conflicts within the within z or the natal membership themselves and all that. i want to bring in our diplomatic editor at james bays whose acts and nato headquarters at jim's. there are several key meetings happening today. there are clearly going to be meetings happening on the sidelines as well. what can we expect from what's gonna happen? well, yes it is, you say it's 3 summits in one day. you have got this meeting, which is the meeting of nato allies. when they sit down around the table,
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they become the north atlantic council, all the nato members, and clearly, you're seeing now the most important man in the nato alliance. the man who pays the bills and the man who provides the majority of the forces more than a $100000.00 u. s. troops now in europe because of the situation in ukraine to protect other nato allies of that have borders with russia. what you're gonna mainly see, i think from this summit is them blessing many of the decisions that have already been made. for example, for new battle groups in countries that are close to russia, bringing a total of 8 a battle groups that nato will have there on the eastern flank of the alliance. i think a lot of questions to rob about the next steps, whether they make those presence more permanent. there's something called the nato russia founding act, which was a treaty signed with russia, which said that nato wouldn't have a permanent presence in those places. but the view now of many nato allies is that
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russia has broken that act by its invasion of ukraine. so nato should make its presence much more a permanent. they're clearly going to hear also from the ukrainians. presidents zalinski is going to address leaders twice to an address, the nato leaders here at this summit. and then he's gonna address leaders at the e u at a separate summit, which i think will focus more on the sanctions. and just to complete it all for you here at nato before they go to the you. the 3rd summit is a g 7 summit. the g 7 leaders will all meet here in nato. 6 of them art nato members. the japanese prime minister has flown in specially he will also be attending that summit of the g. 7. interesting, james, this is and coming as the white house is upon a, put together, a team of national security officials who've been looking to see what kind of response the u. s. should be making into a fab. vladimir putin uses chemical or biological,
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or possibly even nuclear weapons on the field. this is something also that nato is looking very closely at as well. absolutely. i'm not sure what details we get of this, but we know the u. s. is sending a special team to plan what they would do in the event of the use of chemical weapons or biological weapons. we know that they have repeatedly said that the fact that the russians keep talking about the used by the ukrainians or the us of chemical or biological weapons may mean that they're preparing a false flag operation. saying that the ukranian army use these weapons when in fact it was the russians. that's what nato says, it fears. and that's why it's making preparations. clearly you have extra u. s. capabilities there, but also nato itself. the alliance including the u. s. all his key players, like the u. k, like the germans, like the french have, have
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a facilities for this and are going to come up with plans to try and protect nato populations that live near russia. but also, and they probably left this a little bit late, but to try and protect the ukranian army and or the ukrainian people, the actual specialized agency of nato, the deals with us in the czech republic. which i think is interesting because when that used to be czechoslovakia and in the iron curtain, that's where they developed their speciality with regard to chemical and biological warfare. well, what we're going to see soon is this north atlantic council, formerly convened by the secretary general jens sultan berg, and then a lot of discussion behind closed doors, including the 1st address to the leaders by mr. zelinski. at one other thing, not perhaps the most important thing on the agenda, but one thing that we're hearing is being discussed is some allies would actually like mr. stilton berg to stay on the job. he's supposed to leave the job in a matter of months to become the new central bank governor of his country,
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norway. some suggestions that he will be asked to stay on in the job as a nato secretary general for another year, given the severity of the crisis. and to tell you more about the severity of the crisis, it's worth me telling you what some of the leaders said when they arrived here. for example, latvia as president saying russia must not fail. lithuania, said no one in nato should be able to feel safe. now, and all, also a stonier saying, there's no way the vitamin putin can win or his appetite will grow un nato country could be next. so that's giving you an indication, i think of how severe they see. the situation was telling you to rob that i've been speaking to a senior nato military official who says that the situation is they see it one month on is with a great deal of losses for russia. they estimate between 7 and 15000 casualties,
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