for dominique, her buddy was close to getting the 1st go, but the submit in the 2nd minute serve added time, alexander struck to then 67, right north macedonia to a welcome playoff. again, portugal will positively have never been so close to qualify for wealth cause. c i want you out there with lisa hill robin in doha, reminder of our top news stories. nathan and i say the war in ukraine is the greatest threat to security and decades. the leaders of the military alliance, the european union of the group of 7 nations, have been meeting in brussels. they would moscow against using chemical and nuclear weapons. food was banking on nato, be split my early conversation into december and early january was clear to me. he

didn't think we could sustain this cohesion. nato has never, never been more united than it is today. put in is getting exactly the opposite, what he intended to have. as a consequence of going into ukraine. we've built that same unity with our european european union. and the leading democracies of the g. 7 brothers, the more shilling in car came 6 people were killed, 150 wounded by artillery fire at the front of a postal center. but people were believed to be queuing for humanitarian aid. the man says there's no safe place in the cranial city and civilian for a long you to receive aid and the besieged city of mario paul, which has been the constant bombardment. it's being distributed by russian troops. moscow has he blamed for violating sci fi deals that made it difficult to get aide into the city, ukraine's largest port city. the desert remains on high alert for a russian assault street filled with sandbags, barricades,

and had chug defenses installed by soldiers and volunteers. rush warships just off the coast of the black sea, but for the most part, as has been spared from the fighting in the world these, the u. s. is imposed the sanctions on north korean chinese and russian individuals and companies. after north korea tested its largest ever intercontinental ballistic missile north, crazy to kill jogan, toll state media. he personally supervised the launch and that the new massage is key to deterring nuclear war gone. his government has taken a 30 percent pay cut to help with the country's economic crisis. label fuel prices, her fate, and all time high because of the war in ukraine. and that's driving up inflation and transportation costs. those with a headlines here on out there will back with more news and the top of the next. it's inside story to stay with us. me each and every one of us have got

a responsibility to change our person for them. or we could do this experiment any of us could increase just a little bit that wouldn't be worth doing. anybody had any idea that it would become a magnet is incredibly recipe for women to get 50 percent representation in the constituent assembly here. and getting this pick up to collect the segregated, say the reason this is extremely important service that they provide the city that we need to take america to try to bring people together trying to deal with people and left behind me. the kremlin accuses the us of pressuring other countries to remove russia from the

group of 24 m. f major economies. can washington and it's western allies bar president, putin from attending the summit this year in indonesia. this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm jerry navigator. the g 20 is a major international plot for made up of 19 large economies from the developed on developing world on the european union. so the blocks members represent 85 percent of global output, 75 percent of international trade, and 2 thirds of the world's population. while economic and financial policy has dominated annual summits. the agenda was expanded to include climate change on the pandemic last year. and china says the g 20 is

a forum to discuss economic issues. rejecting suggestions, russia could be barred because if it's invasion of ukraine, so who controls the g 20 and what lies ahead for the blog? we'll have our panel and just a moment, but 1st this report by sarah hi, ritz the united states and its western allies are exploring whether russia can be bought from the g 20 summit and indonesia, later this year. we believe that it cannot be business as usual for russia in international institutions and in the international community. rushes ambassador in denise uses president vladimir putin intends to travel to bali for the summit. actually form aimed at improving or economic situation and solving economic mostly problems. and of course, the expulsion of russia from this kind of forum will not

help this economic problems to be resolved. the growth of 20 was formed in 1999, bringing together the world's largest industrialized and developing economies to discuss the comic and financial stability. members from the global south include argentina and brazil, saudi arabia, south africa, india, and indonesia. china has defended moscow saying the block should be focusing on global economic recovery from the pandemic. ours, which if i share, which is the g. 20, is the main forum for international economic corporation bring together the world's major economies. russia is an important member, and no member has the right to expel another country. australia is prime minister says, allowing vladimir putin to sit with other world leaders that the summit would be a step to fall. we've been making very clear statements and representations about our very strong concerns about the involvement of russia in the g 20 this year. we

want the indonesian g 20 to be a great success. we want to focus particularly on the challenges of our region. so i think we need to have people in the rooms that are inviting other countries. the g 20 summit was seen as a wave in tennessee and president joker with dodo, to raise his country's profile on the international stage. and its officials maintain the block isn't a, cannot make an development forum. barts, it now has to navigate the threats of a western boy called to president putin decides to attend thorough hired for inside story. the us i'll bring in our guest, joining us from chicago's elizabeth shackleford. she's a senior fellow at the chicago council on global affairs. she's also a former us diplomat from moscow, daniel watch cove. he's a fellow with the russian international affairs council and from jakarta we have with us thomas know to netto, who's a foreign policy analyst, and also the host. the foreign policy talks podcast. he's now involved in business

20 and denisia. that's the business engagement group for the g 20 summit. welcome to all, thanks so much for speaking to us on inside story. done a bunch of moscow over to you for so obviously there's some division over over whether russia should be barred from this year. is g 20 summit to be held in indonesia? how was rush of hearing us? well, let the right to be very ongoing basis in the world about math and reading the participating b assignment. once in some bad it's been bad. and actually i think that, so we have so far, right, just one example of russia, b and x out from very similar kind of organization which used to be in 8th grade. and actually it's certainly an organization in the future media. chelsea that they've got different countries to share the same idea about

the economy and global rights and the case in this case. how is russia viewing its possible barring no, the steps will be impossible. and russia said this thing when it was excluded from g $8.20 and it repeats extra with the same rate. the currently same g 3 is not working with membership. both of the membership tickets are not handed over to any pantry. and so russia cannot be a fusion that banned from a base event. and by the way, china, yes, they express the same opinion saying that as soon as the chief went assignment is to just the kind of forum with the contrast, which is based on their own view. they cannot be, yes they did. we'll talk about china and just a moment, but let me bring a thomas not away from jakarta. so does this put into an easier and

a tough spot because it is the host of this year's g 20 summit. as we've been saying on the one hand, it's been very cautious about how to respond to the invasion of ukraine. on the other hand, this is a very significant event for the president himself is not where he wants to use this opportunity to raise the country's profile. and furthermore, did this and i'm exposed to asian, right? so those are present in which in many ways is disruptive. division are just trying to bring transformation and change to the form. you know, no, no, that's a sluggish response. and damage of it's our gaps of it's, you know, an actionable outcome step given by g d. but again, this ukraine washer quite as i stood indonesia in the position, the response from the government is now just plain neutral. they said just trinity is not upon the reform as an economic form, and we want to play just as a, as a consistent position of $220.00. but of course,

we cannot underestimate the respond coming from outside from actual parties about russia's presence. it's not only that though, is a thomas because indonesia itself has the economic and military ties with russia. so there's a lot at stake for indonesia itself. yes, to do as a printing and you trendy. seem to me just just not be acting as to design. just fine policy itself, but also to defend your beauty of 20, to bring touch again towards multilateralism. all right, elizabeth, thanks so much for your time with us from chicago weigh in on this debates. i mean, as thomas was just saying, we've not heard from in denise as foreign ministry yet on the decision that they are going to take. i mean, do you see in denise this inviting russia from this year's meetings? how's this going to play out? why do you think that indonesia has been put into a very difficult position? because whether or not they retain that invitation to russia or, or take it back,

this conflict is going to weigh heavily over the 20 and pretty much every multilateral gathering over that over the coming weeks and months and, you know, possibly longer. but i think it's very unfortunate to, to try and continue to maintain that line, but somehow economic issues are not connected to political issues. they certainly are, and they're deeply connected and we like the idea and we've kind of played around over the past, you know, number of years, the dance of this multinational national global environments where, you know, we can really trade. but if other actors aren't playing by the general rule that allow us to have no certainty and predictability an open trade, then you know, you simply can't ignore that and just kind of pretend like this war isn't happening in the aggression isn't happening. so i think it's going to be a big decision for indonesia. and then if indonesia decides, you know, maintain that invitation through us, it's going to be the decision by others, whether or not they're going to try and make a collective action to prevent that or just decide not to hang on a 2nd. so you, you don't agree with those who say love g. 20 is primarily i cannot make for him.

so you know, the question whether it's appropriate to bring in a political crisis into this framework. it is primarily in economic form, but you cannot in the interconnected globalized world upgrade the to, you can nomics and politics are related. and, you know, if you have questions about that, just ask china. they use their economic browse around the world all the time, which you political game, just that the trail you are, but the way now. so i don't think that it's fair to, to pretend like in some scenarios you can use that economic way and others. you have to actually completely separate from the type of price. okay. got it. thomas, how likely is russia as ejection, given that there is no clear process for expelling a country from the group? yes, i think the government of the new jazz are trying to push this rejection away and of course, demand that the beach negotiation has happen between your current washer and still november. i know it's still a couple of months, but we're still very careful as,

as i mean, the government of each are seeing that the progress and the posters of the p saw or, and he says fire agreement between parties. but somehow i believe that some impacts . so you kind of rush a war is inevitable, right? it's talking about security standard financing, for instance, wash in development in such a funding that has been banned under sanction, of course will impact many countries including tracking number of states. but we want this to be immediately, so as soon as possible, so isn't not most efficient and, and it goes up to 20 itself, right. and just one more for you before i bring. and daniel from moscow without rush as present, that it will be difficult to address these economic problems. who will it not be? yes, domain team or do 20 is recovered together. we cover stronger and we definitely highlight the inclusiveness and the governors to student support,

economic growth at the post spend any time so we don't washer it's definitely you know, as hinted a potential of the inclusive economy. good, i understand a possible class. this will give a different story, but that's not physically something that we don't want to see in to 20 to 2020 by individual. all right, and you were mentioning this a moment ago and you were talking to us about china's position. of course that hasn't condemned the invasion of ukraine. it's also criticized western sanctions and defended moscow as an ally. it's called russia and important member of the g 20 as well. now the chances of one of the g 20 members like china vetoing russia is pretty high, isn't it? well actually, yes, absolutely. i think of course the maturity, which is 20 members that they are comprised of the countries to which are currently i'm not extremely a favor in what's going on between the russia and ukraine course. but still,

i think that if we again, recall the example of achieve 8. so another to experimental dash should be a decision by all the members like i have to energy lunk countries b. busy or dissipation and the russian back at 2000 within the russian was not expelled in peace. it was not just invited. so the medium some. so russia has no arbitrary but just to withdraw the crime go to we use a patient patch for those assignments. i'm so it's, it's not likely to happen now because at least we have chain, which has already expressed its absolute years a green once we have space here, will be turn rush dissipation and we'll have some other bates. and i think that here we can follow what's going to happen, for example, from both sides of their,

from the state of grace you all, for example, from the cycle cells africa, the course, as far as we know, for example. and so s request did not a vote in favor of you and general solution creek aside from russia, you bounce in the ukraine and so they abstain. and i think that if we speak about upcoming sheets, when we called also close the morning or how brief countries go into there. because as far as when the china has already decided with a rational and she went the sheer and so it was going to happen in the effort and you steal the mental time. i will see. but even with china be an 18 year old exclusion. the roster, i think that these initiative has multiple in to be with her are lice particular. ok. elizabeth, go ahead. i mean, i just like to say this is not the un security council, neither china nor russia has to be told here. it's not it, you know,

there's nothing laid out as we heard that indicates exactly how a country can be booted from the 20. this is a matter of invitation. and if you've got at the, at mike can, you've got to leave half of the 20 countries that i believe are going to strongly oppose the rest of participation in the summit. the invitation is going to come from the current to 20 president, which is in denise just though it is going to be very easy for indonesia to make that determination. but at the same time, we're not talking about a situation where there's something laid out in the regulation here, where the g 20 has unanimously decide on anything that they do. this is, it's not an organization that work that way. and we don't have to get china on board if at least half of the 20 countries oppose it. and even if the decision is to move forward and allow russia to come, then the boy taught by a large percentage of the countries of the g. 20. it's going to call into question what this organization is really good for, which brings me to my next question. are you in fact, elizabeth, i mean, how likely is that other leaders will not come if the russian president shows up?

i mean, i would find it very hard to believe that you know, this is month away, so we're not really sure what the situation specifically will be. but if we're in a similar situation, what we are, and now i find it hard to believe that the united states, european countries and other countries that have expressed condemnation of this invasion, would find it easy enough to look the other way and act that there was that the usual with russia at this stage, many countries in the world are using all of the, all of the messaging, all of the tools that they have to try and press for resolution to this more for russia to take back aggression aggressive stance. but going about and acting as their business as normal, particularly when you have massive sanction. even if this is an economic forum, you simply can't act as though there are other, other global crises that russia can be a positive player and at the time. so i think it's going to be highly unlikely to be everyone on table. what do you think the us will do in particular and is this something where you see the president, president bite and right now and brussels, obviously, meeting with nato. is this something that he's going to be pushing for during his

meetings this week to suspend russia or spell russia? i mean, i don't think that's going to be the number one priority, but it, because there are more urgent issues that as before right now. but i do believe it's going to be a matter of discussion. and of course, with making the announcement of about the intention to join the g 20 summit, that is put it on the table and in the news. but i imagine it's going to be a discussion of the many different ways that the alliances, again, trusted actions in ukraine can make their position known and make it harder for russia to continue to act as though things are normal. that the g 20 is one of many multilateral institutions that function based on, you know, international norm is generally being respected. that's how our global economy work . so if you have one country and that that, that is flagrantly violating those, those norms and those rules, you cannot go to another form that's related to that same a global situation to that same international moral that we all function in and just pretend like the violations in one part of that scenario aren't going to

affect every other one. and i believe they're going to be talking about that today and they're gonna be talking about every form in which this issue can be read. donald, do you agree with what elizabeth has to say? yeah, actually i would like to make one comment to be to the liter burst opinion that she claim care of be in town, organizational americanization. what i use for bed, it's not going to be in the way of vote. you know that the members are being as ation a board against which is the patient oppression. so that's, that's, that's how it works. i think that in order to actually balance russia out in the need, you can only, for example, suspend it shouldn't be. visa will be diploma russian, but and the producer of fashion delegation, but i don't see any other possible. wait, wait for, prevents russia go into the back. even though the countries are all of the

big g. 20 members said that no way against the russian, but it's not going to be going to be on peace manner. and that's why actually they will put a c l, a report band that internally has come under some pressure on the western countries saying that it's short think again about whether or not but russian has expressed their willingness to come to the man and rush, the president has been sent to bed, so he was going to participate, at least for, to be with know how the situation is going to change. and so just been russia from the dissipation. emphasis told them, i think the only possible way is just to prevent the delegation, physically kind of damage and i don't see any other possible way. we also hear, however, let me put this to you. we also hear that the reports that world trade organization

officials are, are reportedly refusing to meet with russian delegations as well. so to what extent do you think is russians status at other multi lateral agencies also being questioned and does russia care? yeah, absolutely, i'm here. i actually agree with them is the best thing about the boy was to reach, would have east chicago g 25th. and it could be really a point here that if a lot of members are, but she's decided to come just to share the same platform with russia. so of course, the impact of the serpent they are all these on is going to be less significant than the same happens without their being w t. o adults express ideas or band rushing some future time. but i think that it's going to have a lot of implications for world economy and portal trade was also rational for me

is not bad, extensive as once went out, roughly the major players want the energy market and ease. as we have recently noticed, the markets like trade show on the price of oil and gas have their own way and they influence the energy security. and so in basic effects and it's a patient is really important for all to contrast. look at leave for the last few minutes of the so let me bring and thomas here and look at the broader picture when it comes to the g. 20 thomas. because there are report reports that pull the polish government is the one who suggested to the u. s government that russia which should be replaced within the g 20 and it's been a long standing goal of poland to eventually joined the the g. 20. is it now seeing an opportunity to achieve that goal and is it time for the membership of the g?

20 to change right, there are some going debates that we should add more countries to join to 20 given to. ready many countries that have expanded economic asked fans that economic growth and so on and so forth. but the problem now, as we talk about, you're getting russia that, you know, the concerns are not coming from the high level of government or presidents or communist western countries. but so for what i heard from the other engagement group and working groups that we have under the umbrella g, 20 many businesses, many other parties. it's the corner is i don't the mandate to also excluded. wow. shined in negotiation in the discussion of g 20. this is a big problem. again, we cannot underestimate this, right? and i think, you know, having other member states are not solving the problem whether we should put lashire or not. but again, go, sorry, not to waste exposing russia from do you do not also help solving the problems that

we have? so that's why i understand that documentary as a president d 20 is trying to be carefully thinking about the best solutions to this crisis. okay. pennington isa thomas. it actually use it liter set to resolve the problems. yes, it is. as opposed to a copy towards natalie by a st. and i just policy. so what i suggest the government to find ministries that we should extend all of the fund capital should be half. and i'm trying to solve this of course, no problem. problem is number one, but i agree with everybody, especially the economic impacts inevitable. that is the 20 member states, so that's why we should thinking hard to find hard. so. ready immediately elizabeth, final word to you on the issue of the g. 2 to me not to single out poland, but there are countries other countries as well such as niger area and thailand who reportedly all have higher g d p than current g. 20 members. so is

a time the g 20 opens up it's membership or reforms and starts to include other countries. what's your take on this? i certainly think those things should be under consideration and discussion at the time. in addition to the idea of, you know, shouldn't be based strictly on economic science or should there be other factors in such as, are you a good player in this integrated economic international system that we have? but yes, i mean, russia particularly after this sanction is no longer really at that at that level. so i believe that we should be careful about just rapidly expanding science and reactions the situation because you have the, i mean, it's an economic body that does have an important diplomatic role and negotiating these issues. but they should certainly consider the fact which, which other countries might play a more positive and affirmative role in the body. and if there are countries that are creating the types of economic issues out there, such as russia with its aggressive war and ukraine right now. and we should,

we should consider whether or not they're the type, the countries that are helping us resolve these problems or causing all right on, not knows, we'll leave it there. thank you so much for joining us. elizabeth shackleford. daniel bosh proven thomas. no. 222, thank you so much. thanks for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. you can go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha, inside story. you can join the conversation on twitter as well, or handle as a j inside story from myself and the whole team here in del. how, thanks for watching and the bye for now. the the 20th centuries 1st, genocide thought to have sent the blueprint for the holocaust is too often overlooked. the sand will come and bury everything. but for some reason the sand refused to bury these people. they want this story to be taught over a century on the injustice still echoes down the generations on the path to

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