67th ranked north macedonia, till world cup piles. ah said that the people celebrated the victory in north macedonia, capital sculpey. the only major tournament of the country is qualified for in its history. was the 2020 european championship. macedonia will play portugal on tuesday for a sports of the 2022 world cup here in casa. ah, it is good to hear this hello adrian. so they got a hearing though, how the headlines on al jazeera nato allies say the war and ukraine is the gravest threat to its security and decades. the leaders of the military alliance, the european union, and g. 7 nations have been leasing in brussels. they warmed moscow against using chemical and nuclear weapons. prune was banking on nato. been split. my early

conversations in december and early january was clear to me. he didn't think we could sustain this cohesion. nato has never, never been more united than it is to day prudent is getting exactly the opposite. what he intended to have as a consequence of going into ukraine, we've built that same unity with our european and the european union. and with the leading democracies of the g. 7 has been more shelling in ukraine's 2nd largest city concave. the regional governor says that 6 people were killed and 15 wounded when russian artillery hit people who are queuing for humanitarian aid civilians in the seed, city of mario paul have been given desperately needed aid. russia is distributing the supplies, but moscow has been accused of violating sees 5 deals, preventing aid convoys from reaching the city. ukraine says that 90 percent of the buildings in multiple have been destroyed. the u. s. has imposed new sanctions on

north korean chinese and russian individuals and companies. after north korea tested its largest ever intercontinental ballistic missile north korea's leader kim jong and told state media that he personally supervised the launch. the pentagon in south korea say that they'll deliver a some response. if the o p s government says that it will observe a truce with rebels in t gray to allow aid into the water region. the un says that more than 90 percent of people that need food and medicine. but the only a small amount has made it to them of a captain of italy's football team. so the players of destroyed and crushed after failing to qualify for the 2022 world cup full time champions were eliminated. after studying last and all the rest of the others, the headlines for these continues here on out of here or after the stream. next talk to al jazeera. we are. do you believe that the french organization of ukraine

is currently the biggest threat international peace and security? we listen, we are focusing so much on the human tearing crisis that we forget the long term development. we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that madison on the news. welcome to the stream. i'm josh again for, for me. ok. the u. n says more than 1000 civilians have been killed ukraine since russia invaded the country a month ago. now us president joe biden and other nato leaders have pledged more military hardware to ukraine, while also agreeing to strengthen the military blocks eastern defences. today we look at what nato and the use next steps mean for people in ukraine in eastern europe. mikayla barrow be off, send us this video, comment about ukrainian public opinion on the nato alliance. we

are claiming that he did not support in the 1st and foremost. busy the plan is all you simply because he did not provide me. second i needed military jeff style force. on the other hand, are there metric with special law smart society for about 40 percent? not 73 percent. i'm doing the studio by al jazeera senior correspondent, alan fisher hunter celeste as the director of security programs at the foreign policy councils ukrainian prism. she's in the ukranian city of odessa and ragna schaler is a program director and international affairs at kerber foundation. she is in berlin

. oh yeah. one more seat at the table. hey that you. if you're watching this on youtube, she that box over there. we have a live stream producer waiting to get your comments to me so i can get them to our guest. and you too, can be in the stream. allen, can you give us some of the top lines coming out of the nato conference in brussels today? i saw it called a couple of really big meetings going ahead in belgium over the last few hours. and we'll continue for the next few hours, as well as far as joe biden is concerned, that the big message is that the united states is ready to accept up to 100000 refugees into the united states. that will get some pushback from, from summing in washington, his cold for the removal of russia from the g 20 says that that's the decision to be made by the g 20. but clearly he's very keen on that idea that as you said, the, the going to strengthen me to his eastern flight, which probably means more troops to the baltic countries and also to poland. i. and

then e perhaps unwittingly suggested, there's a gap in his schedule on friday. he's spending a few hours in poland. he's going to go and speak to humanitarian workers. but it seems that he may well be looking for an opportunity to meet president so lensky. a if from what he said that that certainly with what he was pointing at, that might change because the secret service don't like the president flagging this sort of thing up. the been trying to keep under wraps, but don't be surprised if the 2 them meet at some point. wait, wait, wait. where would they possibly meet? possibly close to the border. i mean, these things aren't left to chance. secret service will be on the ground, seeing where there's possibly somewhere that they can meet safely, maybe even in poland itself, although zalinski would not be keen on the idea of being seen to leave poor. but just in the way that joe biden almost slipped up, don't be surprised if the 2 the meet to morrow and he's known for those kind of slip ups. i refer for honest about ron. yes. okay,

give me your take on this. think i'm a cookie. rush out of the g, 20 less diplomatic connections with russia is at the way forward here. i mean, we don't know what we know is that the west has to stay stand united and i think today was a very important day for this because we had the natal summer, we had the european council going on. but also the, the summit of the g 7 leaders all off which send a united and a strong message to the world saying we stand with ukraine. i want to get back to though to the, the video you short in the very beginning where me cola said ukrainians have been to the point with ne, to, i think what's important to, to consider is that nato members are really treading a fine line between showing support to ukraine and not giving material for further escalation to, to the russian leadership. and this is a very cool, very difficult situation. we're all in and present. zalinski addressed, ah, nato leaders to day asking for more of that military hardware. we have

a bit of video from that. can we play her sound like was green, and in my blue little did i give ukraine does not how powerful anti missile weapons and has a much smaller aircraft fleet than russia. therefore, their advantage in the sky is the use of weapons of mass destruction. and you can see the consequences today how many people were killed. how many peaceful cities were destroyed, the ukrainian army has been resisting for months in unequal conditions. and i have been repeating the same thing for months now, to save people and our cities, ukraine needs military assistance without any restrictions. nothing is thought for anybody that we you know, ha, jones, he's been really critical of nato in the last week or so. but just in the last day or 2 it is he changing his tone a little bit and if so what, why what, what's behind that? yes, exactly. if you heard today's speech,

he had the rhetoric change, he was not criticizing natick was not demanding something. he was not telling that the mate even guilty. one of the reason he's bad, ukrainian, expert community, be in quite an active trying to explain that don't make the positions of the individual states was natal don't request from nato as an organization. what it cons provide because like weapons that we ask in nature cannot provide weapons, a weapons that is the national government restroom stability to let's ask germany why germany doesn't want to do it or let us, calgary, why it is blocking certain the oper, chaise us, but don't tell it to nature because what nature is doing, they did it quite a well. and today we heard the change of the rhetoric, both from the presidents and from the nato officials, by the way, as well. because if you heard stole to bill for a last 2 weeks, he was telling only natal can not do it. and there are we all we said or k, we know what you can't tell us what you can or what you already do. because definitely a need to be in training, ukrainian armed forces,

we will not be able to fight as we are doing it now. without that 8 years of training need to help with logistics with the supply chain was communications with the cyber security with branch are the thanks for the trust fonts through the advisors that brought us to the situation we and now many countries gave us just 3 days we are already of the day $28.00 of these were not ragna. speaking about the way nato feels about this, a new survey just came out in the last 24 hours. i believe on how germans feel about this. and if i can show my computer, and we had this survey that shows last year when asked, should germany stay involved in international crises in the future? you had about 50 percent, so there should be more restrained. so kind of down the middle there. whereas this year or same question, 67 percent now say that germany needs to be more involved. this is aligned with new administration and the greater military spending that were saying in germany. a 2nd

question should germany become more independent from the united states in a security policy? and right now you have something around 76 percent, same more independent. so i can you suss these 2 out for me because one seems to say more engage, which would directly be through nato. and us be a major part player there. and then 3 quarters are saying, but do it in a way this more independent from the you us? absolutely, and thanks for bringing this up. i was a few words about both of them must. i think the 1st one is really significant and it's a, it's a historic shift in german public opinion. so you had these so called siphoned vendor speeches in the german bonus tag, germany pledging to really spend 2 percent of g d, p on defense in the coming years, which is sick nic and it makes germany the 3rd largest military spend the on earth it's, it's hard to imagine, but what comes with this is really a different also strategic role in the world and this will require intense contact

and discussion, also with the society that has not been used to this. so this, this change in public opinion is significant, but it will have to be maintained and it will take effort from the government to really a engage with, with the society on these questions. regarding the 2nd a graph you showed, you see that a large majority majority in germany says they want to europe to become more independent from the united states than in fact, there was a sub question asking why and up to 50 percent of people said, because we fear that the u. s. will withdraw from europe in the foreseeable future . so the trump legacy is still being felt in, in europe, but for, for europe to really take its fate into their own hands and to become more independent and more, more active on the world stage. it needs military spending and better,

but it also needs strategic thinking and, and exchange with, with partners on this. and there's still a lot of homework to do. i want to bring in the foresee that the table here you to, we have a handful of comments. alan, i'm going to toss these to you. may we just do a round robin hoss and ition says e u has filled ukraine, but not providing of support. terence korea says why ukraine cannot become a neutral country. russia will never be comfortable with nato on the border. and andy warrior says one of the chances of conflict, morphing into war worth 3. i think there's an element of relief which might be too strong award. that for the moment, this war is contained is contained within the borders of ukraine, when people call for a no fly zone. that's not going to happen. joe biden doesn't want to put americans directly up against the russians because then that has the potential to become a much wider conflict. so you're not going to see no fly zones being implemented at the moment. but if they can continue to support the ukrainians with directly going

up against the russians, both the united states and nato are quite happy to do that. can ever get the idea of strategic ambiguity, which means for a nation rather than drawing a red line in the sand that says if you crossed us, then we escalate. there is no line and you don't know what the other side necessarily considers an escalation. how calculated is it for the us to know what russia will consider an escalation in an escalation? and they've been relatively good with their intelligence up to this point. remember, before the war, they said the russians are going to do this. and the russians did follow that playbook on it. what is it is concerning for the biden administration is using the phrase red line. if you go back to when joe biden was less than the white house, he was vice president under brock obama. barack obama said, absolutely a red line of the city and use chemical weapons in syria. then we're going to take action. hey, the salience use chemical weapons. what it obama do? nothing than obama looked weak. joe biden doesn't want to give that political

advantage away. so you will never from this white house here any senior official. see on the record. yeah, there's a red line here. i want to pull an, a coral, a little a go for hanukkah. yeah, just as much about the red lines. you know, i hear you need to understand that sometimes it's not about the actions, but about the perception of the actions. because as you, i see now, or want to be a western countries, a pink, poor with weapons and was mighty, that's because they were so careful as they perceived it. and so eager for the dialogue for the previous 8 years seems the annexation of crimea. there were. c a lot of research now that i argue these, i'm saying that maybe you put sanctions where the annexation illegal annexation of crimea in 2014 would be stronger. probably mister putin will think twice or at least on oligarch around he will think twice about sponsoring based project because s one. now what we're hearing like are k, let's ukraine become a neutral?

ah, let nature go further because that is the red lines for the russian federation. so don't support ukraine. and russia would be nice again. but sorry, ukraine was the neutral in 2014. it didn't prevent her trembling from actions and it didn't prevent bab one wants to go to here. it seems to me that sometimes we are manipulating with the issues of red blinds for the russian federation and what can provoke them? what cannot provoke them? are the actions of mr. booting and rhetorical theory? he is features, especially those who can understand russian land, which i can hear the wording and notion that he's using. they became very irrational and they are not according to the lord or some type of the real political aberdeen. here's what dad and they don't slumber had to say today about this. so we are, we set think nato so turns and offense, florida long term with more troops or with the more air assets on more maritime

capabilities. we have older the increased our presence in the east and today with this on for new battle groups on that the leaders agreed to tall sco mentor commanders to provide options of for a long term reset. though our press and saw remitted their poster in the eastern part of the lines on across the whole alarms, ron you, when fulton berg says that they're going to reinforce the eastern flank of nato, is, is he speaking specifically about the baltic states in that, that small connection here, i have a map, let's show our viewers a map. here we go to my computer. this is nato. you can see the darker colors to left for the earlier countries. and now it's been encroaching easterly and as all the way up into the former soviet states that the baltic states which are connected . and i'm going to put my mouse over this for you guys. that's about a 40 mile border right there. and it's a weak spot in the eastern flank of nato. so are we talking about moving troops there? and this is starting to sound. i mean, it has always been

a military organization, but it also kind of feels a little bit like a sleeping giant waking up in force is actually coming into play that have only been terrorized for a long time. can you touch on that run you? sure. i mean, we're talking about the bowl takes, but we're not only talking about the bowl takes. nato already has 4 battle groups in place in the 3 baltic countries as well as in poland. that's about where you, your mouse was hovering. but to day st ultima was announcing the deployment of 4 more. a battle groups her the in the south of beast and flank, namely in romania, apple, garrison, lakia and hungary, which means that there will really be battle groups from the baltic sea to the black sea. so from north to south, on the, on the eastern side and what he means by resetting defense, if kind of waking up that sleeping giant that you were talking about. so, so far what we've seen is the thought of a defense by presidents though, you knew the nato was there, nato troops were there, but he didn't really see them. what we're moving to now is something called more

a defense by denial or like defense deterrents. the actual defense making clear that nature will not seed one inch that the phrase you might have heard of its territory. i saw an ad regardless of laterally. what are those shifted a jumping on. yeah, you know about the black. see the problem being that the nature didn't have the nato, our black history, the g, and we've been arguing for the necessity for the last 10 years. at least even have in 3 are literal states as the nato members and the even wine ear washer and bigger military are present, started to be the baltic steel, the black sea be in the absence. and the russian federation for the last here really increased the are actually in marry time to me. we experience it with the publications, with the war of exercise this with the disturbance of navigation. so plenty of activity has been happening there to many countries of the region,

especially romania, been it really saying that we need greater presence of nature here. the same georgia and ukraine was insisting nato finally to decide if the black sea part of may talk or just the neighboring territory. and it seems to me that with these washer of the, for additional battle grew, nato finally made a decision that they would like to be present beer. that jerky alone will not be able to offer on the russian federation. otherwise, you understand perfectly georgia left without navy after 2008 to our war with the russian federation. bulgarian navy is very, very weak and remain. it is not bad, but still quite a week comparing to what russians had to ask for. now when we have additional courses and a barrier additional responsibility for such countries as france, for example, who's moving to their aircrafts to our romania? that would mean that finally, our nato countries understand the importance of the maritime domain. not last about the b, r. use term plan to add to the land, the border with the russian re should just to pick up on that point. well,

me tool never use the freeze red line. there is a red line of thrushes go too far, then they will respond. what they don't want to tell the russians is weird about red line is because there's a concern that vladimir putin will push as close as he possibly can to that and try to provoke some sort of reaction. he doesn't want to get involved in a fight with me to either, so he's got to guess we have that red light is so that puts him slightly ease, clearly if it feel at ease. rather clearly, if he attacks a nato state, if, if, if military forces cross the line into a baltic state, that triggers article 5. and it's, it, it's a red line, nato has to respond. but what about something more of a gray area? what about a cyber attack, but then there will could be a response, and that, that's a way of engaging the russians if they attack through cyber capabilities. and they're already testing in the united states. we had that from from jake sullivan, the national security advisor earlier this week done at the white house. i was there when he said at that they had already seeing those tests being made. they're

looking for weaknesses. and he said, absolutely. they've said for a number of years that a cyber attack on one could provoke a response from every one. if there was an attack on an e to country, it's degrees if it's just a couple of shorts being fired across the border. if it's more to run going across the border, will that then bring all of nato against russia unlikely because they don't want to escalate this. as i see it's kind of contained at the moment within the ukrainian borders. and it's about more than just the military harbor on the ground. nato's also about a set of values i want. i want to bring in a comment from catherine. right. she's a senior lecturer in the international politics at new castle university. what we should be looking for is a nice ac up house insurance, the re, a fan, the values underpinning me alliance including human rights, the rule of law, a democracy and individual liberty. and that's because this is a rule for by peace in not just intended territory. again,

the names hands of valleys and is that attack on west and valleys which nato should be responding to a and defending we have a comment from pillow wise and you to this is what us putin really want. and ukraine, al, he, he really wants to go after those values right after an alliance a western alliance. he wants to see the western, the lines natal, the european union, disjointed, not together. and joe biden, to a large degree when he came into office, said that he wanted to re unite international licenses that had been disrupted by the previous president until degree. he's done that and you can see that in the way that there has been a united response along the way in that sanctions have been imposed almost in unison. because he understood the idea that everyone had to be comfortable with the sanctions. and they all had to go at the same time so that there was no like we actually have a president by and on that right now. and we by that, but prune was banking on late,

obeys split. my early conversations of december and early january was clear to me, he didn't think we could sustain this cohesion. nato has never, never been more united than it is to day prudent is getting exactly the opposite. what he intended to have as a consequence of going into ukraine. so, ragna, does it seem like pohden has actually made nato closer and stronger than it was before? in a way, definitely. i think lots of unintended consequences happened in the west that, that didn't foresee. it's, it's the unity of nato. it's all things that happened within the european union that were unimaginable just 6 weeks ago. also the, it's direct shift and german security policy that i mentioned. i want to say one word about foods, motivations, though, i mean in the end we, we don't know what he wants. unfortunately i think only put in himself knows what

he wants. but what we do know is that he thinks in, in historical terms, and part of his mission seems to be to correct some of the, what he thinks, mistakes that have been made after the, the end of the cold war. and that he kind of wants to re unite and soviet states referring to ukraine, referring to better route, but also to george. i'm older and, and others. and this is why this is not only about ukraine, but this is really about defending the west and defending western values throwing as we all a proposal said, i wonder what the international community can do. i want to hear from a voice in ukraine about what they believe the world could do to help. this is demetrius sugar. he's a european program director at the international renaissance foundation and ukraine . the world can help to stop his bloody russian war in ukraine by 2 ways. first way is to help you create a military to crush the russian military force here by providing ukraine with

modern weapons. a 2nd way is to crush russian economy by sweeping really devastating sanctions. and without this, it is difficult to speak about finding a new, sustainable diplomatic solution because rotten demands are not for compromise, but for surrender of ukraine. and their demand for neutrality basically means sir. and mindful, isolated in ukraine to move to the left without allies. so is unacceptable. hannah, how does this war and oh, we will, we, and we survive. that's for sure. it you need to listen ukrainian and some to understand what is in the dna and definitely to where is that very important for the ukrainian identity. that is freedom and dignity. and that was very difficult to understand to mr. poochie and i, because honestly like you asked me to put in, wants to, i would say bad. there was, we re, a things to humiliate nato. we definitely see from his statements are to restore

the soviet union, but in some crazy meat of soviet union and russian empire. and this 3rd one is just to you on how to said in the polite words, but to, to crash ukrainian identity and serenity. because bad been really crazy for him. how racist is statements about ukraine ukrainian states will always be. so why did you unite these crazy paranoia dull wishes of mr. wouldn't you understand that for ukraine will be important? not only our military supports and economic sanctions that withdraw perfectly describe, but also one very important thing for the western countries to believe in ukrainian to trust to of what you pronounce a telling about the citation. because in the beginning of the word, you know, what was the biggest fear of ukrainians, not the mighty of the russian army, but that our western partners would, may cost to surrender because they will be afraid all law, the crumley and the ad, the actions of the russian armed force are hon. i got in the 3rd. thank you so much for that. final thought. that's all for today. i want to think all 3 of my guys for

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