was attempted to recognize the suffering in ukraine with a moment of silence and ukrainian born actress. me lecount, who's helped re $35000000.00 for ukrainian refugees. briefly addressed what she called recent global events. one cannot help, but be in all of those who find strength to keep fighting for unimaginable darkness . people in florida, we're going to have a day night, the show with overall funding light as the producers had promised, with 3 funny women moving things along. it was a night, hollywood shines once more and were drama. was in spades. heidi joe castro al jazeera los angeles. ah, this is al jazeera, these, the top stories. israel's foreign minister has set, improving ties with arab nations. will help counter threats from iran in the region . he was speaking alongside foreign ministers, a full arab countries on the u. s. and what some calling historic gathering in they

give in southern israel. the prime minister of the palestinian authority was critical of arab states, normalizing ties with israel. why he had to be there like that, as you probably shop. israel is ignoring the causes of our people, half of whom are under occupation, and the other half in refugee camps in exile and in the diaspora. our normalization meetings without ending the israeli occupation of palestine or just an illusion, mirage and a free reward for israel. despite israel tends to ignore or right now you expand its colonial settlements, checkpointing hill, and arrest us in the story, any chance of peace with us. we have never been more determined to confront this is rarely machine destroying our land or people, sanctity that paul is on the verge of humanitarian catastrophe. according to the mayor who is calling for complete evacuation about a 160000 civilians remain trapped in the port city. russian forces have surrounded

it much if it has been destroyed. of the fierce bombardment, ukraine's president says he's willing to discuss unusual status with moscow. as part of a peace deal of the loudermilk. he insists on the territorial integrity of his country, ukrainian, or russian negotiated the set to meet in turkey for talks on tuesday. and will smith has won the best actor oscar for his performance in king richard, a film about father venus and serena williams. during his acceptance speech, he apologized to the academy for an incident earlier in the night. when present and competing chris rock made a joke about smith. why? the actor whooped on stage and flatten. academy released the statement later saying it does not condone violence of any form. and a fell in about a death family with the hearing, a hearing doors. that coda has one best picture. jane campion became fed woman ever to win s directly with

the war you crave, is shaping a new global old is the fighting escalate. global power is said to be considering that future options. but what will the foundations of this new order being and will western values will prevail? this is inside story. ah, a very welcome to the program i'm nick loc. the new war in europe has been described, the turning point in human history, comparable to the attacks of 911 or the, the fall of the berlin wall. it's been more than

a month since russia invaded ukraine, causing death and destruction across much of the country. the invasion and the political disputes around it now disrupting the global order, which have been in place since the end of the cold war. the conflict is also defining how democracies will confront future threats and conflicts. western powers view, the invasion, not just as an assault in ukraine sovereignty, but in the words of the u. k. foreign secretary, less trust and assault on the foundations and rules by which societies co exist. while united states and its allies want to buy russia from one of the world's most important economic blocks, the g 20. its members represent 85 percent of global output, 75 percent of international trade. and 2 thirds of the world's population. china says the g 20 is a form to discuss economic issues and is rejecting suggestions at moscow could be bod, because of its invasion of ukraine or causes magic? i'm in been how made a tiny spoke at the jo, how for him on saturday,

and in his remarks, he addressed the need to find peaceful solutions to global conflicts yourself and, and not i also put in mr. hatch. it is sorrowful to see contraction in the political and diplomatic means in favor of military expansion and solutions. the militarization of solutions has been growing for the last 4 decades until it reached one of the most challenging piece and the ukranian war. from here i emphasize to position of the state of capital, the renunciation of the violent, intimidating civilians and assaulting thank sovereignty and all other estimate of violation of human values in international law. we stand in solidarity with millions of innocent people and refugees who's going to victimize unjust war, geopolitical calculations. as for china, well, it could stand when further influence in economic dominance, while the west maintains its pressure on russia for now of aging seems to be backing diplomatic efforts. chinese foreign ministry says ukraine has asked for

help in finding a peaceful solution. meanwhile, beijing's economy has been hurt by rising commodity prices as a result of the war the or let's bring in our guess in new haven in connecticut, we have news, i'm sorry, who's a visiting professor at yale university and also, oh glen diesel, who is professor of international relations at the university of south eastern norway and, and not him and the u. k. steve site who's director of the china institute at university of london, a gentleman of war. welcome to you all. and it's still saying i'd like to start with you at, we look back to the years leading to the 1st world war and wonder how it is possible that they didn't know the direction in which they were heading. is that how history do you think will view this moment in time? as this earthquake rumbles under the current world order? i think we have better recognition or the importance of the russian emission for

you grange is one of those events in history which is going to leave a major mark. i think we're looking at t $430.00. ready more in b bush kind of moment here, and i think this recognition and glen this and do you think it's now inevitable that the international order will reposition itself? i think most definitely international order, but in europe as well. keep in mind that for the past 3 years, we kinda try to figure out what to do with europe because we never really eliminate the winding lines in europe. but now these will be re militarized. during the cold war, the congress between europe and russia, also need to couple, i think also globalization. that's where i think, especially some of it's because of the things against russia as well. i mean now through the west series,

the monday from the russian with central bank is out there doing similar to similar money from us on the road and think that the world is becoming much more skeptical to dollar and the euro of course, than a longer one to trade in dollars or your own, me see that the rest of the world, that kind of responding to this indian side, not wanting to buy energy and rubies on these, are considered to sell their energy in the chinese also they want and also instead of sanctioning russia, we see countries like china, they think that they're willing to work now to establish some kind of a parallel economic financial infrastructure that's not only able to function. so i think this is a huge shift international system. also this is how the western nato and the rest of the world are necessarily on the same page. all right, we'll get into the wise, wherefores, all of that in just a moment beneath our festival. knees, i'm sorry. do you think we were inexorably leading to this moment?

we had a series events going back to the twin towers and 911 to the financial meltdown in 2008 to breakfast, to trump. and now this, do you think it's been a gradual progression that that's been building up to this moment? the brother progressions are, is, depends on the focus guilt. i think that this is, there is of this focus were given and i think that there is another focus, the growth of china and the bill to the pacific. and there is so what i notice in today's news on today's analysis is that people who are reminiscent from the cold war are reviving the, the tensions and the hectic nurse over the years of the cold war and bringing russia as the main international relations. whereas if we looked at so from the a broader picture, the, the shift is definitely towards the pacific. the shift is towards her,

a competition between a west led by, by the us and, and china and its allies. so i see here, russia more as a satellite. notice a small satellite was an important center of more of the satellite of china than really the main player under amazed at how many analyses are focusing on china and russia as if the main topic is, is, are russia. so, and, and i think that's the, and the 2nd point i want to make is that if we keep focus, when we keep focusing our attention in international notions true are relations among states. we forget that some people are paying the price and it's individuals, it's communities that are really, really being the high price of this shifting power. so it's the, the ukrainians themselves. but it's a people in around the world who are hulu with the energy prices

going up with a rita go in a week, prices going up. and this is provoking a lot of concern among a lot of people in not only about you green, but about the survivor of individuals on top of the refugee process. so we need to bring our attention not only to focus our attention, not only on state to state relations, but also on the impact of these on really people. really it's a mad individuals in a sense of it, right? and commodity prices and so 40 rising commodity prices the, the refugee crisis, the tremendous refugee versus the me credits are live in today, but that the syrians live, but the urine, these are still going through on the forgot your guns, went through and are still going through it so there are tremendous refugee crisis

around the world on top of the commodity prices that you mentioned at the gym, just her left shoulder. he said that we're at a turning point at a could lead in any different direction, steam sang at which their path do you foresee it gained angie? do we agree with the view that china could be the big strategic winter out of all of this? i don't know where the china is going to the big strategic window out of this. but china, is it really big player in the picture? or at the moment, slightly our focus. but it is going to be, becomes the focus of attention and as the war in ukraine settled down at the moment when the war unfolding and asserted future uncertain dates. a lot of thinking about the end game being focused on what will happen, lisa, ukraine, and russia. but as the war and trenches is south and direct zone and will be much

more attention being said to a wider contextualize idea of and gang, which is what do so call the west, want to see the world war forward. a very important parallel between russia and. ready craned putins view of ukraine in terms of history and china and taiwan. and she brings equal to dilution view of taiwan is that we knew perhaps 1050 years down the line trying that will invade taiwan. what will the west do? i think it is going to be much more the focus in the next few years moving forward . and when that stay in focus, the whole engagement of the well order will change. i don't think we're going to see a return to the old cold war, but we are going to see

a new kind, a new version of the pie for cation of the world. the chinese government doesn't actually want that. and that's why i started off by saying, i'm not really sure the chinese and the being the winner, right? so when you say that the nations will be looking ahead to this, what you say is inevitable. invasion of taiwan by china. they will prepare for that moment by continuing this decoupling of the west from china. is that what you mean? yes, in general terms, because at the moment the west, me hear the west me, it's not just europe and north america. democracy. what generally can sanction russia in the way that we have stunned at a cost that is significant, but tolerable to just in the same situation between taiwan and china,

we cannot afford to do what we are doing through russia to china. our economy will supper much too much damage so they will be recalibrating. well, what would be a safe level of economic engagement with china? and the chinese government has long had a policy of coupling from the west. it goes all the way back to 2013. when she can be issued document number 9, which was essentially an internal document, declaring how china should be very selectively the coupling from the west. ok, so glen, the sunny true isn't it, that the world could not apply sanctions on china and the way that it has with russia because it relies and it's trade from too much just to keep the world turning that's in place. so obviously i've got a complete the coupling from china was it possible is simply the global economy. however, that being said, you do have that issue certain degrees, for example. the question is not only the coupling is having

a favorable symmetry. that means that from the us perspective, they would like to see themselves on the left, on china, the china should be more dependent on the west. so in other words, the skewed symmetry of dependence. you can do this to a certain degree. and again, from the united states perspective, for many years now, they've been attempting to instill some discipline to make, to prevent the pm's from buying ross and energy and buying china technologies and then only link themselves to the united states. and obviously this possible to some extent, and i think there's also why the us trying to go out to china to some extent, that claiming that they're supporting russia and invasion of ukraine in order because europeans complete the jumps on the u. s. bandwagon in terms of putting these are sanctions against russia to the extent that it's creating havoc for

european economist. however, by attempting to also blame the chinese, i think the us would like to use this crisis as a way of having their p and also the couple a little bit from, from the, from the chinese. again, this is one of the key problems of the united states have the most security dependence on the u. s. when they had a very hard time to convert the security to dependent on the loyalty. but now with this heightened security threats, us obviously has more, more influence over there. so they will then they exploit this crisis to so the extent they can get the fields from up on the cut off from the russians. but obviously also the chinese are not completely obviously, that's not possible. sure. and these say so we say that this is the end of globalization that the world will, will now divide into separate, potentially hostile comes regardless of what happens in ukraine

on yes and no, because i would like to call our attention to the fact that many of the countries either didn't vote or abstain in the general assembly or the resolution, right? done, and english. right? and they were, they really have a significant proportion of the world's population, right? all the significance from a part of the world population, but it was also a significant number of countries from you african continent and from danger and goes countries that somehow, coincidentally where part of might interest you 6 on derb unbundled so these countries are saying, look, these are 2 big dogs fighting and what is in it for us in this fight. so this is not our fight. we have other issues we have other demands. and so this is going to redefine are worth politics. and these countries will have somehow to true sides or

even urine, even during the cold war and the height of the 3rd word and the non aligned movement. so many of those countries where side in slightly once an order. but there was, they had the mother arjun was there were saying we, our, our, our fight is another one. and our issues are different. and i think that these same countries are, seems and think when there are, or i'm thinking the st in, we're looking at this fight between these 2 big dogs under. he was leadership and currently under russian leadership. but it's russia, china to challenging bowers challenges, stethoscope of united states. so this is what most of the world to see. i think in is a is, is it necessarily a bad thing that the well daughter is reshaped? not a bad thing,

but there were good things in the post cold war order, the, the norms under values imposed by to with good grants of democracy and the human rights and the protection of minorities. all of these things are very important, very valuable. and people from the social form in port allegra that were protesting against barrels there were they wanted globalization but didn't know what is ation of moms and these values are protected minorities on the human rights of democracy . good vance, of them all proceed on the trial use and speech and freedom of faith. so those were very positive values that a lot of people will miss if they have to choose a cancel that after 2 sides. and there is a side that is more author retiring and more i'm willing to be observed in human rights and the rights of minority. so that is

a negative point in this change that will happen united to me or so glen, is it possible that some good will come out of this? is that there's an opportunity in fact here to, to create a more united, more interconnected and, and perhaps more sustainable trading world. i think so, because, well, we have to see that this is kind of transition from unit or world. so after the article was only one central power, which was united states and then organized around the collect at west, now the west has been in relative decline for, for the last 30 years in terms of other centers of power and coming up with the u. s. as never really been able to let go, it's key security strategy, which is a global hedge of money. so the question was always the hardwood molded, our system come into play? would it be negotiated settlement, or would it be through conflict or war?

and this is also, it will, the crisis ukraine is kind of in a question of what we do. we transition, would we find a way to live on the same compliment that the russians and it turned out no, and i think the same applies to the world, but i think i think some positive can possibly come out of this because i don't see the world switching at the camps, i think it was the decline of the us and them on i think there's more this becomes less 0 sum game perhaps around the world and that's receipts and develop the all conflicting camps and getting this by all this, talk about russia being isolated in the world throughout this pretty much that's only the nathan congress, both japan, australia, sanctions on russia. so we see the chinese indians, the rest of the world. they don't really know. obviously they don't support the russian invasion, illegal war and violation of international side. but also they don't,

they don't see this large need to russia and ukraine so, so they don't want to pick any size. and obviously the most of the world that i would assume most don't really see any moral authority on this side, on nato, after all of our wards, through this decades with hundreds of thousands of so i think in the world is to organize more into the different polls of power, once this, and this could have been official impact on this. there are some game was right. let me put the same question to say, did you think they could be a positive result of all this misery? in principle, there could always be. but in reality, i think the world has become a much more dangerous place and the direction of travel that the world was warned has been changed. i think it's easy to see, look at the polls,

cold war era, say tom, where he was about americans dominance. i think we should really see it in a much wider contacts. it was also in the era when the european union was changing awful, at least until now, changing the way how we look at our child and our relationship with other nations. the idea that europe a war like what we are seeing in ukraine today, could not happened. it was wonderful while it last, it was an idea that until the nations was heavy effect beyond europe to spread the idea that the world needs to move on and cannot stay in the mindset of the 19th or the 20th century. not in the

end it's, it's more idealistic going be your nationalism, aspirations of the european union has been burst as a bubble by the rushing elation. and this i think has changed the world and we are drifting into a pipe. okay. well, whether we like it or not, and whether the chinese like it or not, they don't, they want to have a united well, where china ultimately will become the dominant power. but that's not going to happened. right. and let me, let me go and get started, jump in because we're just coming towards the end of the program. i just want to bring in this one last time. i mean, i hate to end up on a on a bad note, but it stays right. isn't a because stability between great powers depends on reaching some kind of neutral agreement to maintain the status quo. and that clearly moving forwards, at least in the near the middle term is going to be impossible with russia,

isn't it? it is going to be difficult because the, the rising power, china is going to challenge more and more united states and viewable established after the younger of the cold war. so this is the moment of the shift in and of this negotiation. but we are not going to see immediate, a immediate clash of military might between these 2 hours. but it might eventually come a little bit later, a just one carrier to want to the last states. i think that europe went through a period of peace after the young of the cold war, but during that period of peace rehab, the war was in boston yard more in kosovo. we had georgia posted vision of crane and crimea, so disfigured was not bad. so peaceful and dot com in europe either. so now i told

you on the slide, i wanted to sure. all right, we'll have to leave that. thanks very much. have a gentleman for joining us today and it's, i'm sorry, glen decent. and steve saying, thanks very much for joining us of this interesting discussion and thank you to watching. you can see at this program again any time by visiting our website, audio dot com. and in date for further discussion, just go to our facebook page. that is facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. and you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at a j inside story. the main o'clock, utah team here in their home. ah ah.

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