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hello and welcome to the program. i'm hello jim, jim. it's been nearly 8 months since tunisia. president sack the prime minister, suspended parliament and granted himself broad executive powers. ty, it's supporters, welcome. the moves is necessary to root out corruption, but his critics accused him of a coup. now sigh, it says he's the target of an attempted coup. he dissolved parliament after members defied him by voting online to repeal the decrees he used to assume near total power. tunisia constitution says an election must be held within 3 months. but i am a former constitutional law professor has rejected this impedes including the speaker and head of the largest political party and nava had been summoned to be questioned by teenagers, anti terrorism police. where can i forgot the shabbots would see the people in to new z a holding on to the constitution. we reject the president's decision to dissolve the that is sterile council. this is to continuation of these decisions
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taken on july the 25th, which rejected or considered as a que your car. this is a continuation of the cube now. what elisia walkman are, reports from tunis? president science says there will be no fresh elections any time soon. this despite him dissolving parliament and the constitution saying he's just 90 days to hold new legislative elections. this follows from parliament holding an online plenary session on wednesday. it's the 1st time that they've met together. since last july, brent president side sat government and froze parliament, bringing in a period of what he called will exceptional measures necessary to save the country from imminent danger. parliament voted to end this period of exceptional measures and signed responded by dissolving parliament sides called it a crew to talk a constitutional treaty talbot, a failed coo since then. and peace had been summoned for questioning at tenacious
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terrorist police station. and this includes the speaker of house apollo, russia, ganache, she who leads the largest party in parliament, panama, as yet no arrests or charges have been made and parliament is waiting for the results. so today's question to decide on when the hold another plenary session, they want to ensure that enough parliamentarians to present to have a quorum enough to pass votes on any motions, proposed eliza feldman for inside story will go to our guests in a moment. but 1st, let's take a closer look at the political crisis, the democratic transition into nisha since the 2011 revolution has been tumultuous and matters came to a head last year. in july 2021 presents, i had sacked the prime minister and froze the parliament. his opponents accused him of staging a qu, but sigh, it has argued he acted legally to rescue the country. during protest against him,
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sired announced in september that he'd rule by decree. this allowed him to appoint cabinet members set policy and put aside parts of the constitution. in january this year, he initiated an online consultation to draft a new constitution, but he hasn't involved any major political or civil society groups. all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guess in tunis. we have journalists probably about a week in nicosia, in cyprus months of hud, lot associate professor in the department of international relations at cyprus, international university, and also into his political commentator. should he for the calling? welcome to you all. and thanks for joining us today. busy on inside story, robert, let me start with you today. just how fragile is democracy in tunisia right now. i think we did the latest. this is a decision taken by been a democracy, is
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a really shake. and then i think if this is the biggest threat to our democracy that we've built a decade ago today, people i frustrated because they are waiting for a wheel measures economic queen farms. i think i think jimmy's yesterday need some more economic plans and economic measures than the political decisions like dissolving the parliament should if um, let me ask you a just how big a crisis is this right now? what's going on? and where does tunisia go from here? i this is a. ready we are a very in cross here with say, a and the,
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a, a very big months of ever since july of 2021. when president saeed suspended parliament sack the prime minister, president sy, it has been saying that those actions and the subsequent actions that he's taken are constitutional, that he has granted the power to take these actions from your vantage point. are the actions that he has taken, including the last one, dissolving parliament. are those actions actually constitutional? you see that is a told maria. there is a tradition in tunisia of speaking about cost, additional, cool, and $40.00 to kill,
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changes and liberalization. and to some extent. ringback the setbacks from something liberal to something authoritarian. so what happened to some extent or is very often failing from different perspectives from the liberal procedure under strictly caution and his perspective. it is something good on to take to constitution norms and artistic to liberal thinking. but to what extent is this on time democratic or is it a cool advance? because this is a debate. those will support to president and behind the president. those who are also not very critical, they think that the, the revolution between quotation mark justin that if just marry what ocean was betrayed and what to do the way the president operated. it's problematic that he's no doubt and how to judge it or assess it from different perspective from the liberal perspective is very hard to defend it. somebody will show best elegant to
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say perspective is also a big question mark, because what are the masses, even if there are people supporting him now or so the series of democratization? many of them thought that one has to abandon this paradigm about transition to democracy. they agree on the fact that is normally barren or thought italian automatic system. but from there where to go, why think now terms we are getting somewhere. so after saying that that is a transition and it has some criteria. some of them are and taken some theoretical and they make sense. here we are now what is happening since, since 2000 then for the k side and those who are supporting him. that was a mess. so the, by the length of what is called this parliamentary democracy, some people want to go back to that and do more good as in good masses,
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internal of her. what is called the citizens against the go and the turkey one is from the outside, the easy each said for from the beginning, you labeling it defining, eat, categorizing it as a go. but all the other had some scholars and some thinkers believe that the leaders of the cult of who and cult of democracy are the following. which is a relatively that such visit such phasing mont saint dan probably met msc. let me, let me say, let me, let me, let me, let me pick up on, on some of the point that you're making in, in, in a later question. because i want to ask rob bright, now, you heard months of their talk about the fact that there has been a lot of disagreements since last july about whether, whether the actions of presence i then were a cool or not. so you had that happen. you have the allegation since then that that was a qu, that's book from his opponent. now you have for his i it who's saying that he is the target of, of an attempted coup. what does the public think? does the public think that that president sayed engaged in a qu, does the public think that now there is an attempt of
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a coup against president sayed, what is their mindset on this? i think the up public opinion is divided today again, teenager between the people who are with the president and describing is the actions as the action. if here we will say, will still it say the country and the other hand, we have people who are against him and they are describing he actions as cool. if you want my opinion, i think he's manipulating the law today. for example, when he used the article 72 of the constitution on wednesday, it's not about ducks old because you can't use this article wet wet layer. you took the exception of measures in july, according to the article 80. for example, if you see this article 80,
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you can understand that he can't do souls, the parliament and the parliament messed and maintain in session till the next election. so it's so good looks you can't use both articles 80 and 72. at the same time while you wait. he declared already a state of emergency. so i think these binding books is really i, we are witnessing really this part of the key in the gymnasium suite who are today divided more than ever between the lock with him and against the president bus. but mostly the, both political parties are against him. and he's really facing a big opposition today should have. how specifically does president sa, you'd want to remake the political system in tunisia? is it just that he wants a presidential system? does he want to grab more power? does he want to lessen the power of parliament?
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a . what we are seeing leave a man aching world in. so i read a dish. well, what we're doing wrong, or by only one person with a month, um, i remember when parliament was suspended in july of 2021 speaking to many tunisians . and the consensus was that presence i had with, you know, his, that his actions were very popular among the public. this because they were tired of the political infighting of the squabbling. and they wanted to see things get
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done. i want to ask you how much support president side has now among the public? because here we are, almost a year later, the economy is worse off. things have generally improved and there is still political stasis in the country. i think the program to some extent to i said there a calendar to your question is it is the one that is a tradition of within the auditory leads to go after each other who is democrat, whose authority times autocrat, who is for the revolution was against video lucian, and there is a block and let's tighten. busy more of the system and i don't know to what extent this it gets a masses behind in one side or another. and it looks like it the, it, it is very often more or less open to what is happening in the seats. but at the same
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time is manipulating and own say what about those who think in terms of progressive or even radical, the who is also not from outside but both within the society and outside the society, but the economic arete, to what extent it is a fiasco today because different types of leads, even the economic leads is also unhappy and probably has grievances, but nevertheless to think in terms of binary and dichotomy. the is, is democracy. so how can i see is authoritarian, this liberal, but the dynamics within the division regime inclusion system as a whole in connection with the original after original sources, interest is very complicated because they knew the truth. i remember value it, one of the, among others, x, the minister of the 1st president of the region, been harsher himself, laker the last the before the last president went running for presidential system
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and they were not at ease with, is it a system since 2014 or cause her tuition, her semi presidents, it's shelly parliamentarian and expansion. democratization are telling us you are going to walk straight into something hybrid, which is this and that at the same time. nevertheless, it the other procedure levered. i admit that is very hard to defend on the concrete empirical grounds. what is happening. but here we are to, to say something about this one has to move to the level of pure politics, which is, is it opportune to do this is a new way to do it. even if you ought to be defending what you think 10 years left where based on earth, reactionary, conservative counter revolutionary anti democratic. i have to say the maraduke as
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president said, the connection or the networking right between, between the islamist and the need, the toner said that i was counter revolutionary. so where did they say her policy or this coalition, or is alliances started going in the wrong direction? now what, what is happening is really probably magic and how to read it. but is it a constitutional, a crisis, easy to political crisis? it is also a kind of a combination of all these, right? monta monta, i'm so i'm so sorry i don't mean to interrupt you, but we are starting to run out of time. probably let me ask you from your vantage point. what are the consequences for these m p 's who have been summoned and depending on how this plays out? or do you think that we might see some of these m p 's prosecuted? oh yes, we live here in brazil, the prosecutor. persecuted, and then this is this was the announcement announcement by the president few days
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ago in fortunately this image is not good far as i told you for our democracy. and this is the real threat into jews. yeah, shaking democracy. unfortunately, we are seeing that the, the low is manipulated by the president and i think as a journalist, i think we have to be visual because not only the democracy is threatened, but also freedom of press and freedom of expression is that certain march then as of today, sharif of this parliament session that happened on line where there was more than half the parliament members present. what kind of impact does that have on presidents i it's grip on power because essentially they, they had tried to overturn what president psy you had done when it came to
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suspending parliament. does this show or does this indicate that the opposition, even though they've been really fractured in the past, perhaps are uniting more and feeling more confident to really forcefully oppose. president psy it does. it weaken his grip on power at all. i think so far. no. a, a, a, a, a few months ago, a due date for
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when many say that is headed toward disaster, there's a recession. food prices have driven up massively. how hard is it for to nissan citizens? right now, it's really hard. the economic crisis, when you started in 2020 we, we dealt the crisis and the cost is, is interest in defense value today with the we're in ukraine. that's why, as i told you, people are frustrated and just going to because 8 months after he took the measure in july 2021, people waited for economic plans, economic decisions, economic reforms, but really nothing is done. so i think misers, intensifying the economic aggress is today. all right, well, we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave it there today. thanks so much. all of our guess probably about a week once of about and should have called me and thank you for watching. you can
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