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wide package of actions that the world can take to reduce emissions at the scale necessary to limit woman to 1.5 degrees. the richest person in the world has taken a major stay. can twitter sending these social media platforms, stock soaring? ellen must brought shares worth nearly $3000000000.00 making him the top shareholder. the tesla ceo has been critical of social media companies in a recent post. he question twitches adherence to free speech, and hinted at launching his own platform. ah, type a quick check of the top stories here on al jazeera, ukraine's president vladimir lensky, has called on the international community to hold russia, president vladimir putin responsible for war crimes. he made the comments on a visit to the town of boucher where russian forces have been accused of coming hundreds of civilians. meanwhile, the russian ambassador to the united nations has denied claims of war. crimes and
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boots are saying it was all staged, thus eaten a benzo says moscow will provide evidence to the un security council on tuesday. yes, president joe biden says there is ample evidence of atrocities committed by russia . he wants vladimir putin to be tried for war crimes. he is a war, but we have to gather the information. we have to provide you with weapons. they did send you the fight. here we have together all that detail. so this to be, i actually have a war trial. this guy is brutal. what's happening with everyone feeling? well, those sentiments also voice by european leaders, french president to manual macro says they're a very clear signs that war. crimes have been committed in boucher and has responded by expelling several russian diplomats that he used. foreign policy chief says the block is working on additional sanctions. russian sources of continued to target car t, the northeastern ukraine with more casualties, reported on monday,
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at least 7 people were killed in the latest bombardment. while the mayor of mario paul says, 90 percent of his city has been destroyed. the chinese city of shanghai would remain locked down as authorities review the results of a drive to test all 26000000 residents for cobit 19. a 2 stage lockdown began last week to combat the latest wave, but the restrictions have been criticized. there are reports of cobra, positive children being separate from their parents and sent to quarantine facilities. a landmark united nations report on climate change says there must be rapid, deep at immediate cuts in carbon dioxide emissions to prevent a catastrophe. the final section of the report was released on monday and says emissions will need to peak them 3 years to prevent the worst effects of global warming. so those were the headlines and continues here in al jazeera after the stream stage. and thanks for watching letha on counting the cost with europe facing
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the threat of a gas, please can africa fill the gap? ukraine will bottles of noble economy, power, countries, coping and e, you move to kind of big tech dominant will. there you regulations were counting the cost on al jazeera with hi, i'm a chevy, dean in for me. okay. and you're in the stream. on april 10th, voters in france will head to the polls to elect their new president. will it be a 2nd term for president emmanuel mccall, or will any of the other 12 candidates, including far right politician marine the pen or the controversial air exam would make it significant jump with the voters at the ballot box. it's going to be a fascinating election to watch. no incumbent has won a 2nd term since jacques chirac. and that was, i believe, more than 2 decades ago. ah,
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course we want you to be part of the conversation. so send your comments and questions into our youtube chat, and i'll bring them directly to our guests. now, joining us from month on france is ream saba, iowa, and she is a legal scholar and ph. d. candidate and comparative law in paris. we have pauline buck journalist at ave still the image and here with me in studio. sonya greedy is an independent journalist and author of joe biden about either ludovic, anti trump. thank you all for being with us. i have so much i want to ask you, but let's start with president microns 1st campaign rally that was just this weekend with less than a week to go before the elections, which kind of indicates that may be the elections has been overshadowed somewhat by the invasion of ukraine. of course. let's take a look at what he had to say. miss any. my
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friends, you understood it? we must mobilize now. no no, no. the fight is now. silva. it's the fight of progress against the retreat. coma the fight of patriotism and of europe against the nationalist and that is this weather in april st. choices are simple. who don't fall you want to france of parody or the college of progress then help us join us. so sonya a month ago, it seemed he had this race secured and just like in 2017, now we're seeing a lot of concerns about marine le pen narrowing the gap are maybe saying it's an
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open election. how has the media lands or how has the political landscape changed? i mean, for me, it was tracking released to see nowadays in france or how the bus party, under extreme, of the political landscape are right and far left are really gaining ground. and it is a striking cuz i, i left friends a few years ago how, you know, there is another lot of new faces. it's not fresh faces. i mean, i grew up seeing my hello ben and john miller shore. so it's striking to see them in, you know, depending on the po number 2 anniversary and are so the political atmosphere engender, had the political climate. i think it's a bit worried ring and i compared some time to you know, what i saw here since 2015 in the u. s. elections, i just, you know, notice more and more aggressions and indeed, political discourse more and more violence. and you know, a society that is more and more divided and you know, talk about a society divided that he, him sada, i'm curious, you know,
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marine le pen. certainly as we heard from sonia, not a new face. this is our 3rd attempt at the presidency, and although, you know, her brand has always been anti immigration, it seems that she's trying to sanitize her image. you know, it seems as though she's focusing more on the economy, the cost of living, you know, those concerns that perhaps french voters have such as the, you know, cost of gas rising more than 35 percent this past year. what concerns you most are what's different about this year deem? you know, i made the fire, right? i mean, the pants far right is going through plastic surgery. you know, you can change the body, the facade, but the soul and the course to rotan. you know, of course she's going into immigration. of course maggie no penny. still maggie no . been in the very fact that we even claiming said that she became softer is like true mistake. she's still the same. but she has been doing some rebranding for from
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a trained to be different her from her father, original matthew to pen and going more actually into social and economy issue. so she shifted from the tradition on anti immigration, and i, and she's still like this very much so, but she focus now on the social class in a recent discourse. she would claim that she would fight for the people she would bring back the money to the people she is trying or so a to focus on public services welfare. it's almost as if she is being some sort of modern john teens, which is extremely weird. but no, not enough. any still, melinda, ben. but the problem is her ideal. she's so mean streams and now we think it's normal. right? and, and you know that mainstreaming of this kind of extreme polarized ideology that we heard from sonia existed in the u. s. for the past 4 years and that she says she recognizes in france, i do want to share with you something that martini lupins said very recently about
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this invasion. that's, you know, caught the attention of, of everyone in europe. take a, take a listen to citizen. i'm like the phoenix rising from its ashes. the truth is i got back to work. i rebuilt the movement of which i was the president, a presidency. i then left i went in close proximity with the french and i haven't been doing this just for 5 years. but for the last 20 years, i met with hundreds of thousands of french people. i have prepared a platform that is extremely thorough. that is credible that has funding and could be implemented immediately. because now it's urgent for the country to change the direction for a certain number of policies. so fall in that wasn't, in fact i'm talking about the invasion in ukraine. that's her framing herself in this new light. i do wanna ask you though, between what you heard there in terms of how she's presenting herself and what we've heard in the past year. you know, she said not so long ago. ukraine belongs to russia's sphere of influence. we've
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seen her recently, you know, kind of the day after the invasion of, of russia, ukraine. she was kind of complimenting putin. what do you make of this shift in the narrative on her part? i didn't think the has being any kind of shift really. she still, i think less than a week, they said that we should rebuilt. we being crohn's. she to rebuild the relationship that bronze has. we're prussia with pizza and she's being photographed, we've seen several times. she has met with him. she's. she's always been very close to the russian and she's being placed as well and mine t having links to the talk all bonding angry. so really i don't think that will be, there will be any difference it's, it's just the size. so it's just a few thoughts go on. i will, you know, we've, we've seen also sonya my call be very busy and be criticized for kind of being the president of the rich that's going on for
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a while. whether it's true or not. that is a perception that exists in the media narrative if you will. also, many people criticizing him for not really paying attention to the campaign. he's of course, been busy with diplomacy. i'm just curious in your mind, you know, these pledges from japan, you know, saying she's going to reduce gas and electricity prices that she's gonna tax the hiring of foreign employees to favor nationals do think there's a real chance for her to win, leveraging the economy and the grievances that the people of france have. i mean, i think it's definitely a, it's definitely had finger and i think it's mac from her to do that because we are know that her main concern is immigration. but now she's, you know, playing on the, her main theme is the economy like cream just said, and i think it's working because, you know, at the end of the day, even the french people are very concerned about what's going on in ukraine. people are very, very, they're so about their economic situation. so i think what she's doing is,
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you know, walking we're set then type of p bar to be sure to the walk in class. and she, we saw that she now rode the gap. we say menu michael, but of course herman priorities immigration. well, and when you say she's, she's sort of narrowed the gap. let's take a look at this pole. this is updating every single day. this is the most accurate or recent pull from the respected. i thought fiduciary group, if you look at my screen right here, you can see that i think it's like a point 5 percent increase, but quite an increase if you compare it, you know, with where people thought this election would be of course we see a manual mac on top with 27.5 percent and i'm curious at eam. sarah, when you, when you see that missile upin is winning 21.5 percent. it in the 1st round. that's double the vote. share of the fading extreme rights are candidate error exam move right. who had 11 percent in 2017 though my co beats ha pan. $66.00 to about $33.00. now it said $53.00 to $46.00. do you think that these numbers are
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accurate? are they a depiction of a real chance for malinda pan to really oust mccomb a couple of things. uh 1st, we really need to remember that the people elect that prison and not polls. so we really need to be careful with that because the methodology as well. i can be question, but besides that, if, if you asked me med whoever, when the selection at the far right has already won. look, that's all we are talking about. and instead of focusing on the issue, then i, you know, i'm old enough to remember how it used to be a taboo to even mention. then run political did bounce along and now we expect them not so long ago when you think about it. and no, it has been so many stream, you know, we talk about them have been an exam war if you took it exam or who is cory. i mean,
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who is literally sitting in the pulpit, right. he, he is like, he's the conductor of the said, like chin he and you know, own election and musicians are basically being conducted by example, who gives the 10 people who, who, who gave, you know, all the issues to be debated about. and i think this is worrying, so whoever, when i honestly the far right is already there and unfortunately he had to stay, well, you know, with that in mind with yeah, go ahead paul. im sorry, yes, i wanted to jump on. what reams are we sank? is this also something that we should not forget, which is that when michael was elected in 2017, the 1st thing he said, the 1st thing he promised the french was that this would never happen again. that would not be another run off with him against mine, but then that would not be another run off in which that's all right. would would be them one of the candidates, and he's obviously failed in that he has not. he has said that he would fight
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before, right, but he has not done that. and i just, i, i saw that really was wanting to jump in. it seems like both of them are agreeing with you. let's, let's, let's let pauline finish that point. but i want to ask you, why are we back where we were, why has he failed to provide that promise? then we'll go to room. ah, why? that's a good question. i think it will suspect he's, he's not really tried to cheese likes as far as much as he should her, as recently as last year or maybe the year before he was asking exema was still at the time, only columnists on t v. m. for a night on immigration, so he was asking them or his advice on immigration, seymour already of that time being someone who has been condensed by the french justice several times we sang very racist things about in the grants. and so there was no big will from mackerel to fly,
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to find the far right. but it's worse than it used to be on top of my mind. a been still pulling at around 20 percent as much as we can trust. the price on that is we have also is in will who might be fighting in the polls, but is still at 10 percent, which means that right. i see one in 3 french person people is planning to go to the far right, which is right, i'm and on that point. and so now i see both want to get in here. but on this point, i mean, there is a worrying scenario, right? for mr. mccall, like if the moors vote goes to miss la fan in the run off, then that's a pretty substantial come, you know, portion of the vote. you know, we've heard a majority of the left kind of still feel betrayed or somehow hostile against the president, even though many people seem to kind of support his handling of the pandemic. so sodium, sarah, you know, what were you going to add when we heard pauline kind of describing this, this deja vu that we're having and i completely agree with colleen. and actually i
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would say it's even worse for 5 years macro and his administration not only pander to the far right but adopted their ideology. and it's very interesting recently my co declare to his supporters that it's time you know, to that there is a risk for the far right to, to win and so on. but it's rich coming from man who try to attract the far right ethnic to rate. so for example, he was, as far as a know, the 1st sitting president giving an interview for renewal for right magazine. he's interior minister jihad dominant many times, i mean was declared that he wanted the far right electra to vote for them. so for michael and i had become ash because he, i quote, understood that anger and so on the lawns, separately, the whole debate on is lemuel left is of which literally comes from the far right.
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right. so it's always the same and you know, well, he pays to rings like, well, i mean, revealed to the far right, but then we need to say the republic inside or on that point. i mean, you know, i remember in 2017 when i was covering the election on the ground, you know, and, and this idea that islam is uncomfortable with the west was very much coming out of the mouth of maddie la pen. we're still seeing this discourse, but it's coming out of the mouth of our exam more instead. let's take a look at how he friends this debate and we'll talk on the backside. ilia are a problem. a bigger is a problem with the spread of islam nowadays in france. that's a problem because politicians have stepped back because they've wanted france to make reasonable compromises with islam. instead of asking muslims to make reasonable compromises with france, these eckleman mo reagan athletic levels. you know, when i see that claire, by just i know as well, that even though he's behind my, the la pine, that his base is very, very enthusiastic about his candidacy. right?
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that potential you are all seeming to agree that there's been a shift where, where, you know, anti immigration and basically racist rhetoric is kind of much more acceptable. so i'm curious on, you know, we have one french voter and human rights expert who's been fighting a slam, a phobia for a long time. and i just want to share with you what he has to say, because he's very much focusing on this idea of abstention. which of course them a call camp is quite worried about. let's take a listen. so this year for the presidential election in friends, i think a lot be voting. i'm done voting for the least of 2 evils. and every election we have the same discussion. we're like voting against the far right. but it doesn't serve any purpose. if at the end of the day, the government in place serves the policy and the objectives of the far right, which has been the case in, in france. and people at the international level failed to see that of course we have the strongest for right in europe. needing the country to leading political
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force, but at the same time is not so much, but we're smiling lupin, i will say, as it is about latino emanuel mac home gus and his been most harmful president for every minority friends. so sonya, you heard that's matawan take. i mean is that, is that a accurate assessment? do you agree with some of his point? yeah, and i think the extension is going to be maybe, you know, the winner of the seduction. i mean, it's not that it's a good thing, but it's going to be very striking. i think it might be a record abstention this year for the addiction. a lot of young people, i think one out of 4 is not planning to vote. and i think or so what is striking when we talk about the far right? not a nice denomination of the far right in france, but are so the fact that you see a lot of young people now will say that they're going to vote for the more and or for my independent. again, that's not something you know that you saw in friends may many years ago, 10 years ago. so the young people are being attracted more and more and more by the
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far right from is a new phenomenon. and you know, it exist movie reminds me in some term of the nature and because of this very controversial and xenophobic proposers. i think it's a turning point, the seduction to because he's going to have an influence on the long term. he knows he's not gonna win this addiction, but it's going to happen in france under legislative election. and the fact that he open up the discourse to now people there to say things that you know, a very aggressive race, these things in a for big remarks. then, you know, you will not say b b before, you know, and we've touched on the economy. we've touched on this kind of islam, of phobia, this racism that exists in the discourse. we have someone in our, you tube. chad as a asking is the left just dead pauline, i'm curious. i mean, you know, we can go here in the studio about it but, but that could be a serious. i mean, is it is the laughter just that it is a serious question and the answer is, so maybe yes, but not completely in the sense that the socialist party of on so long who was
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president before michael actually michael was in his cabinet, is pretty much dead and they're pulling around maybe 4 percent. they had they got 6 percent which was in retrospect and good results in 2017. so the socialist qualities, pretty much gone. it's definitely not going to win. certainly not going to make it around. but does mino show who is this fall? right. i want to say yeah, yeah. candidates and who is still pulling right the behind look then. so how does, does hope in that sense? it's still only 15 percent off the boat right in the 1st round. right? not much, it's not encouraging. certainly. yeah, but i think i feel like in the last 5 years, the left is really it's not dead, but it's alive on the streets that have been many marshes, many demonstrations,
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many new movements where i'm thinking of the yellow vest who are all right in full . my social justice ran out, but also the climate movement so many you use the young people but not just junk people who have been marching and demonstrating against michael's policy. so yeah, and i think the left if it doesn't win, which is yeah, highly improbable. a will be seen on the streets and the guys who are and, and because pauline you, you're very eloquently brought up, you know, kind of those points and, and, and microns policies themselves. i am curious, i mean, we touched on the economy, but you know, for as much as you know, we heard sonya say, people in france, care about what's happening in ukraine and with russia, but they care more about their pockets. right. and, and this is a, you know, the not found to cliches, but that the french have a long, healthy history and tradition of protests. i'm curious, you know, why has micron really accomplished in 5 years? because if you're listening to some of the voters that we've been paying attention to, we have a clip of some of their grievances,
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some of their concerns. i just wanna wanna play that and then come to you room side . i meant maybe you could share your opinion on why they're so upset. these old pony says he fail fiscal nathi. john, our boy, it's scary for us because we retired for unity. our pensions remain the same. it's been ages since they were increased and our buying power is collapsing. it was, it's obvious. so we can't do what we want. that's that, you know, we're already struggling to buy food. really. it's getting harder we don't, we do. so that's what i can say about inflation unfortunately, and i saw this is so to be settled, pretty up on the resume on a book walk, dear collateral inflation has a very big impact on us, mainly because of the price of fuel. it's very complicated, bella, the fishermen have to go out to sea, but there is less fish close to the coast, so they need to go far out to get it. and so with the price of fuel, the price of fish goes up dramatically. luke was home you bought, did the delivery scheduled for foreigners so much all and then for i t k
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for the moment, there's no one amongst presidential candidates. i see who can tell us tomorrow will be brighter issue. i mean, was none of them had the solution was in order because what they do was take something away to give something back. this her shock, that's how it is for each. alexa, so we were a bit skeptical. he went up, even if there's a new president, it won't change much in kosovo, such for functional, no fatal sodium. sad. i see your face speaks volumes that you don't, you seem like to relate to what some of those people are saying, but, but you know what, what can my crown do about this? at this point, he had 5 years to do something. so a little too late, i guess. i mean, he's a term was well known from controversial and popular reforms. i'm thinking about the pension reform, right. i'm thinking about the yellow vest movement, which lasted, if i'm not mistaken for a bit more than 2 years. but then cove,
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it happens. and it's very interesting because due to inflation, so due to, you know, the recovery of frances economy because of proven now the rise of energy prices because of the war. the government has released an emergency plan. the club is y'all's resilience plan to avoid this kind of social instability, but people are not stupid. you know, and that's the thing during this campaign. oh, we hear is that more immigration, islam, islam integration, but nobody's tackling the real ego here that people can, which are, you know, call me the dismantled services and so on. and i know that micron has tried to remember. yeah. and he's tried to make some promises, maybe a little too little too late. but i'm curious. sonya hearing what inside just outlined, the real economic grievances, people care about how will that impact the results in round to what do you anticipate will happen in round to? well, i think, you know, my coin menu and my chris t seem for
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a lot of french people are like a safe bait, like it's predictability. but he may say, you know, if i'm elected, you know how we behave. so i do think, i think, you know, our bets are off. we don't know like lou pennies, number 2, but may not show is rising in the board than for instance, a few days ago you had a lot of teachers actors of pulling to vote for middle school. so i think, you know, we have to be careful with the pose, but if it's my cool and then i think that microsoft has more chances to win, but definitely they couldn't get issues. you know, we didn't see him. i knew in my home, going to the markets. it was so focused on the, the war in ukraine, which, you know, it make him more popular. and of course, like we saw was rising in popularity with court as a walk time leader and f e. try to rid of the crises, you know, talking was put in right, right. but, but well, you know, you know, you know, there is so much that we can discuss and we will continue to discuss these topics after the election before the election. but we're at the end of the show,
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