a giant bold step to fulfilling the country's founding promise. ah, as can update on that today's top story and israeli hospitals has at least 2 people have been killed in a shooting in a central tel aviv at our homeowners in west jerusalem for us. what more do we know about this event? we just got a separate confirmation actually about the number of, of dead after the shooting. the televi met going live on local media and saying yes that to people who died. he said to israelis as a result of the attack that they have been multiple people that have been wounded. now. israeli emergency service said it had received reports of shootings in multiple places. but all of this happened apparently in central tel aviv what the

telephone man said is that a government arrived at a bar and started shooting people when you see the actual emergency scene at the moment. now it's just full of people full as you would expect of security, but also emergency services that are trying to deal with this right now. it's not actually something that the israeli government and these authorities weren't expecting in general. they had 3 separate attacks over recent weeks. the less the 11 people said, so the israeli prime minister actually said that they were expecting more attacks in the weeks to come, although the motives, the shooting on yet clear. so this is something that is where i was brace who they did symbol security out in the street. they'd actually say to people, the prime minister, that is, if you have a go and look gun license, this is a moment to carry your weapon. what they feared at the moment,

more shooting more deaths appears to have happened this evening. and at this stage, any suggestion of who might be behind it isn't to any for that. it's too early for that at the moment. we haven't heard the motives behind the shooting just that it has happened, and it's worth mentioning as well that this is a moment of tension in general during the muslim holy month of ramadan. and that can occasionally be a flash point in this region. so there's going to be continued jaila, obviously as this goes forward. john holman, thank you very much indeed. definitely. just on that shooting in tel aviv in which 2 people killed. thank you. there's other top stories do stay with us on al jazeera, the stream is up. next. i'll be back with more news after that. that gets in the meantime, you know, catch up with all the stories recovering on our website here. dot com life. now. me ah

ah, ah, the welcome to the stream i meant to have the dean as russian troops continue their assault on ukraine, western governments have tightened sanctions against russian leaders and entities while publicly supporting ukrainian popular resistance and opening their borders to refugees. but palestinian leaders and commentators say such backing is absent from people in during israel, illegal occupation of the west bank and east through them as well as the blockade of gaza. today we ask why there are such double standards in mainstream support for people resisting occupation. joining us today, hallad bay doing is

a law professor at wayne state university and a scholar and national security and civil rights. he's in the u. s. city of detroit . also in that's how that is. it is advocacy director for the palestine institute for public diplomacy, an independent palestinian organization. she is joining us from occupied east jerusalem and from gaza. we have hammered the defeat and how us he is a writer and a journalist. and a quick reminder, we want you to be part of this conversation too. so send me your comments and questions and are you to chat and i'll bring them straight to our guests. thank you all for being with us. i want to start in as with you, you are enduring and living under israel occupation. i'm curious. what has been like for you to watch how the world has sort of rallied behind ukraine's right to resistance and how you compare that with your own right to resist yeah, thank you very much. number. happy to be with you. yeah, i've been, i think very frustrating and creating for pasting and to see, you know,

how things have been criminalized, got slices. and i think, you know, constantly being told that they don't have a right to resist so that there's terrorists that their emphasis, my just for asking are, right, are national rights are being denied. and so we're seeing completely an opposite reaction and very clear, you know, accountability sanctions that are being taken in 2 weeks and for publishing. and this has been ongoing for 74 years. yeah. it's certainly glaring to many, you know, these sort of hypocrisies and double standards. i do want to play what the president of palestine would boss had to say with the us secretary of state sitting next to him. it's not as if these grievances are not being made in diplomatic channels. let's take a listen. the current events in europe has shown plate and double standards, despite the crimes of the israeli occupation,

that amounts to ethnic cleansing and racial discrimination as recognised by human rights organizations. in addition to the attack on sanctity and the lack of respect for international law, we find no one who is holding israel responsible for behaving as a state above the law. colored when you're here in the us and you hear about they're making essentially the same. the same claim, right? we've seen this kind of perfect series of human rights violations in ukraine, and we've seen other atrocities happen. we've seen the international response really being unified being robust, but also being hypocritical to you. what are the most striking hypocrisies are double standards and is it constructive to point them out? yeah, you could it is, i think you're meeting your reaction that you know that i had an individual locally had was the, the racial and racist dimensions of it all. that we could embrace and freedom

fighters who were why were blond haired, blue eyed obviously being echoed by pundits, but took the news immediately after the invasion. once you dig deeper into the, the racial races, dimensions of it all, the, just the position. that's why palestinians can get the same right in the same but you know, a semblance of humanity the ukrainians get. is the real politic of it. all right. that ukraine has special company significance for western nations. western media outlets in palestine occupying a position about this opposition ality with regard to political interest. so it's the media reaction was one race and racism. but once you've dug deeper, you realize that race races and have a big part to play right. with how real politic is deployed, and i want to talk more about racism about the real politic, the geo politics of this all, which is obviously also influencing a lot of this disparity that we're discussing. how mad before we do that,

i want to come to you because, you know, you're living in gaza, you're working as a journalist. and as you watch sort of western governments as well as western companies kind of fall over themselves to get in line to sanction rush to boycott, russia to divest from russia and citing okay, you know, russian aggression, citing the fact that they're bombing hospitals, they're bombing schools they're bombing journalists, things that you have endured, living in god's just this past summer, but also many years before. how does it feel and how much and what, where does your mind go? what comes to your mind? yes, i think it is really shockingly surprising to recall all the events happening over the past 2 weeks. but i think it's really necessary to get a little bit of memory all the time. this whole crisis truck since the 1st russian troops at food and ukraine in february 24th. i mean the media has been watching and covering and applauding the crane in people's bravery and resolves with, you know,

not ably increased. stass is coming out of washington supporting ukraine's right to self defense and resistance, and to sovereignty. and then, you know, hundreds of civilians took up arms and die. and you can ukrainian on troops as soon as russia began to invade and you know, to defend her whole land against an indisputably superior power. and even after shill starting to rain on cities and civilians, assorted devastating military infrastructure and residential areas like we have seen, you know, brave troops and civilians calling it clear that they will continue to fight for their nation's freedom until the very end. um. but before i get to more diffuse, i guess we should declare a nation's like right to resist and find an occupation or a legal military jurisdiction. all right. the people, regardless of the circumstances surrounding the area, whether do political or whatsoever. and you know, i think so, so much of this. mm hm. and sorry to cut you off,

but so much of this really does beg the question, is this about human rights, or is this about western hegemony? is this about geopolitical aims? is this about shifting alliances? the reason i ask is, it's not just palestine so many other, whether you want to call them genocides ethnic cleansing, collective punishments. i mean college we've seen time and time again, that selective championing of human rights. and i kind of want to ask you, based on what we heard from hum mud, and by the way, please feel free to jump in, right? because because otherwise what, we'll never get to everything we want to get to but, but, but, but i haven't had brought something up that was very interesting. if you take a look at my screen, kind of this is how the independent one news organization, but countless have kind of been, i would even say, glorifying the molotov cocktails that we've seen ukrainian throw at russian soldiers, ukraine's government encouraging citizens to make the bonds. we've seen that same thing happen in the western media in western politicians, championing this this movement of mass molotov cocktail manufacturing. to me it's

so glaring because if you look at this article from hearts, you know, this is just a couple weeks ago and this was all playing out. you know, how many? so one young palestinian boy, just one of several who were killed by israeli soldiers for intending to use them all a tough intending to use a molotov cocktail. how is it that an intention justifies your murder in the context of palestine college? but somehow in ukraine, it's not only glorified or praised, but it's, it's, it seen as expected and normal. yeah, that's the whole absurdity of this. all right, is that the object matters less than the individual, the subject areas. so in the case of being in the fact that it's the brown boy who is out of being who is tied to the terrorist threat that's been construct over the last 20 years of the war on terror,

eliminates the ball process from being an instrument migration instrument of freedom fighting, but once you take that object, put it in the hands of a, a white subject, the ukranian subject immediately there being lauded to being celebrated and you're freedom fighter, the word terrorist never pops up on any other media coverage when it comes to ukrainian so, you know it's baffling. it's frustrating. yeah. again, when you step back and realize that the media, the media has a very, you know, strategic, political objective and they've been just complicit. the propagation of how we think about terrorism. how we think about freedom biting from a specifically rachel, len, and you know, in, that's i wonder what you think about that. the role of the media and racism which you know, we heard khalid reference, is it fair to say that the mainstream media are signaling essentially to the world that if white live are being attacked, that somehow that, that warren swift action that war and accountability. i mean, obviously it's not just raise but, but what do you think is, is,

what does that suggest about international law moving forward and how it will or will not be applied? yeah, of course if they, if they grow, i wouldn't say, i don't understand, you know, when, when you're p and get more emphasis towards their neighboring europeans. i mean, that's a human being will always be more empathetic to their neighbor. however, here, clearly when it comes to muslims and what i just said, there is a presumption of guilt. and i think, i think it is something as well in israel and palestine right like israel. this wants to present itself as a beacon of the western world. european settler colony that is surrounded by arabs and we're not even something is what we've seen these. these are without again, national identity. i think this plays a huge role because automatically when we, you know, throw a stone in the face of oppression automatically. this is tina and israeli reaction seen as more in just a minute. and i think, you know,

what you were saying about international law is very important because i have some form of optimism that all of this is exposed at the moment. but clearly there is a, you know, this, this massive hypocrisy when it comes to international law and the respect of it as well as human rights that are supposed to be universal. and again, we're seeing here that suddenly international law is again at the center of the scene at the center of discussions and do a politic. when on the one hand you see russia has been going actually getting away with everything. and you, tina, right in georgia, etc. but also israel for decades has been completely, you know, getting away with total in community when it comes to crime. i've been documented, again at, again. and i wonder what that impunity actually does not just for other populations, we're fighting resistance or seeking basic human dignity. but when, when you allow it in one instance, which for israel, you know, it's been true for decades. i just wonder how mad listening to what in i said,

and knowing that we've seen, you know, russia thrown out of the world cup by feet despite palestinian calling for israel to be thrown out. but that not happening. we've even seen, you know, russian caps now can't compete in international competitions, according to the federation and international federation of feline, you know, caps. i mean, i bring these points up not to, to make fun of what's happening. but just to show the extreme difference in the way the media is reacting and individual organizations, mohammed living in gaza. enduring that erasing by the media or at least the dehumanization that we, you know, the mainstream media has been come, come known for when it comes to covering this and your life. i mean, what do you see is the role in the media? what frustrates you most about it? well it's, it's really devastating and frustrating and i believe if not and looking into things comparatively. i mean, on the other side of the world,

we must say that palestinians have been off fighting for, you know, basic human rights for not only a week or 2 or even months, but for a 7 continued day kids. and we ourselves know exactly what it is to be like under oppression, an occupation very well. and i'm recalling here all the parts of historic palestine, including jerusalem, the west banking gauze, or you know, pretty good examples and horrific attacks against palestinians. and those cities and places are typical of what it means to be under military occupation. i mean, hundreds of children killed and arrested, and many, many families have been swapped off the civil registry. and the continued ethnic cleansing of the indigenous palestinian and the native population since its track, since i'm in 1948. and i'm also, you know, recalling the pushing motif and reason for our struggle. it's really necessary to point us out. that palestinians, we never based our struggle on a course. so, you know, race or heritage or culture or language religion. but for the mere human rights

from which we have been denied for over 7 decades. yeah. you know like equality justice, health, education and more importantly above all, freedom you know. right. and it's, and it's important for you to point out that it's not just about the right to resist invasion or occupation. it's about the right to just have basic human rights guaranteed. even outside of yet, please call a jump in. yes, i can jump in about your point about one of the, this is the selected use of human rights or deployment. right? so i think the question that's fundamental to this conversation is, what is, what is international law and what is human rights? what purposes? international law have today, right, so we saw a couple of weeks ago how regime of government that way that is not only complicit, but engineering are the most destructive ethnic, cleansing campaigns of the world. i'm talking about china year regarding weaver muslims just stayed the the winter olympics. right. a lot of western government, western corporations been embedded. i, even though we have 2000000 reger muslims,

rocks and concentration counts. right. so the fact that we're punishing russia for the conversion, which might be just demonstrate that there's no metrical or equal application of international law, it's simply geopolitical who used by powerful government, right, interests, that wind with the richard. and i think that this is another case that we're making optimistic really quick. so yeah, speaking, no, no i, i think these are popular so you can contradiction intersect with a really interesting time. the fact that mainstream and legacy media around the decline and digital media is i'm inclined. so i'm seeing what i'm noticing is a lot of individuals on the ground all over the world are far more in tune for these contradictions than they were 10 or even 20 years ago. know, and i appreciate you bringing that point up because as we all know, you know, social media giants, the big companies, they've been rushing to take action to not only protect ukrainians free speech, but that while also silencing really in

a racing palestinian voices using the same justifications of, of, you know, their terms of service. we have a video common that was sent to us by when she works. you know, in this regard, documenting these sort of disparities. let's take a look what she had say. we had a senior, have new with his annual image is taken by social media platforms in support of you can despite the fact that we have long demanded many of them, these are totally different pharmacies in the context of wars and occupation. it seems like it doesn't sound it's when it comes to the city seeing codes, for example, on may as well. the company, the wearing distance described ukrainian people right to fight against russian invasion. why the word existence. it said was of a reason why somebody senior content was taken down from this platform. this is timothy kindful because he is allowing the o co fired talkers. so i hate speech and incitement, i guess. okay, steve, but without holding them accountable or syncing their content,

which leads to any one tar car that i'm going to come back to you and then in us, i would love to hear from the rest of you to i'm going to come back to you to push back a little bit, i mean, it is encouraging hopeful that we're seeing the decline of centralized media, but then we're also seeing the social media companies kind of echo some of these same disparities and double standards. i mean, changing their hate speech policy temporarily to allow people to call for the annihilation of russian soldiers, the russia, russian individuals. while we saw since last summer, palestinians who not only are, let's say they're not calling for the annihilation of israel. know, there are simply saying palestine has, you know, a right to exist and not seen as inciting violence or that violates their terms. i mean, doesn't not give you some pessimism or should we be optimistic? no, i think i think that's exactly right. and the comments you made, i think lead to what i call a qualified optimism. read the back look. i was victim of being shadow ban and

instagram on twitter when i was talking about palestine last year. right. so i had specific codes that were moved happening and a far more intense level for individuals within the occupied territories, but also places like kashmir in india, we're seeing big corporations which work really closely collaboratively with governments like the united states like india, like israel to make sure, that activists in dissidence on the ground in their country don't have the virtual platforms don't have the ability to speak and bring light issues that are happening on the ground. well, i mean it's interesting to me to hear you say that and in that's i want to hear from you because this silencing this censorship, or the criminalization of palestinian voices, you know, whether about resistance or anything else i can help. but notice, i mean there's this, i don't know if you've seen this on march. 3rd, there is a representative named leads out then take a look at my screen here. this is a republican from new york. he introduced the israel anti boycott act. this is

essentially to criminalize, any boy caught her cause for boy fight against israel. this was one day after he treated this on twitter thing. the u. s. should immediately stop the importation of all russian oil ramp up domestic energy production instead. and you know, i think this is such a strong juxtaposition, he's calling for cents, sanctioning are boycotting russian oil. but at the same time we've seen 35 states have laws, resolutions and executive orders, restricting or trying to do what this act that he's introduced it trying to do when you see these efforts. and we just heard from college, you know, him being shadow band and i know you're familiar with others on the ground in palestine. where do you have hope that this moment can maybe clarify some of these double standards? yeah, i mean, you know, ive activists, i think underground i work a lot actually with our friends at hamlin, where it works to, to documents and to fight these. we spend

a lot of energy actually trying to push back against accusation and criminalization . so the strategy has been very clear. 5 for, for many years now, and it actually can mirror quite a bit the tactics of russia, right? this information and criminalization of ukrainian voices. basically, israel has been pushing, you know, the politicize definition of anti semitism in order to enable any criticism of israel and to submit it. and on the other hand, accusing policy of being terrorist, you know, and jewels that do tremendous work on the ground. the problem is that when it comes to the west, and this is both from my corporations against social media platforms, but from also government is that right? you know, when israel say something, it's taken to face value and they're kind of listened to as in good faith as in there's some bits of truth to what they're thing even if they're late and like this information in life. whereas, you know, when you obviously hear like russia are you, what's russia, this information, there's an automatic reaction that obviously this might be bought or this might be

this information or when it comes to china for that matter. and you know, july hop and who's a journalist, an occupied east, jerusalem, he sent us some thoughtful comments that kind of referred to some of what you were talking about there. let's take a listen and then i'll come, come back to him. how much is jealous not able to come up with one clear just once towards the russian division she cream. as a dealership is fumbling, they are paying lip service when it comes to condemning atrocities. we are seeing the evidence we are witnessing the old crime, spinnington, ukraine, light, ocean invaders. and we are also understanding that as jen is unable to condemn those will credit because is or itself is accused of such were crimes. on last summer. humorous watch accused israel committing poet work times in gaza during the discriminant bombing of civilian population, gaza, centered in the west bank. there are cases in the hague, currently, or is as accuser 4 times. because of the violations of the geneva conventions, where it is displacing medicines under occupation and replacing them with jewish

settlers from abroad. and how my then are you to chat? mardi 970 is asking, why don't we ban israel from the human rights council at the un? i don't know if you're familiar today. there was actually a vote. if you look my screen here. these are all the countries that voted to suspend russia from the human rights council at the un, just 2 weeks ago, the same body, the human rights council, accused israel being guilty of the crime of apartheid under international law. and even though they did that, you know, at same time we see israel now voting to suspend russia, even though they don't believe in this body. i mean, it never ends right? these double standards and hypocrisies, but, but in your mind, what should, what should the world be paying attention to? yes, i think it's been really understandable after 4 major words and gaza from time to time. has made it clear enough that fighting a military violation or aggression against people is totally, you know, dependent on the identity of your aggressor. you know, with no regard to the human tragic consequences on the people on the ground. so

a simple, immediate coverage comparison between the coverage of the brain, russia, aggression and gaza, clearly showed buys and seems tiered towards the european struggle by the western meter not lifting the palestinian. let's say responsive resistance that carry down defending this right in populations of pounds teen gaza. yeah. and you know, and so the way, yeah, yeah, well i'm sorry, i don't want to cut you off. we don't have a lot of time left. i do want to just point to this point that gelatin made him mad valid. he said i was talking about how israel is trying this balancing act. of course, they violate syria sovereignty with thousands of air strikes. just as russia has for the better part of a decade, and there was no accountability now that it happens to white european, modernized ukrainians for forgive me for making so so freely, you know, we're seeing accountability. what do you make of israel's role in these geopolitical shifts? the u. a and saudi, ignoring the u. s. israel being condemned by the u. s. holly,

but this is why i think rain rates and even the broader war on terror is very, very rain up. and it says, europe is civilized in the middle east on civilized though, it, israel take the prediction that it is sort of be the one civilized actor in the broader civilized region then essentially has the ability to police with impunity. people who live in the front civil region, whether they're palestinian syrian air about large, but what it takes place in europe, going to take place in the bathroom civilization, even though the batch of civilization is responsible for the 2 world wars where it was responsible for the genocide, bosnian muslims 25 years ago that it's, it's a lauren, right? it shocked the conscience. so israel, in some respect to capitalizing on being a white that look monia state with the broader ocean. i've been civilized, i'm salad. i'm glad you brought in that out there and made all those historical references. that's actually all the time we have for today. i'm going to end on a tweet from now. we, unless the victim is white,

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wherever you go in the world, one airline goes to make it for you. exceptional katara always going places to go with hello, i'm lauren taylor in under the top stories on al jazeera and he's ready. hospital says at least 2 people have been killed in a shooting in central television. it happened in a crowded area near several bars and restaurants on thursday evening. at the motive, the shooting is not known. that's good. i'm not sure. john hallman is in west jerusalem. what, what do we know, john? yeah, that local hospital in television has put out a statement saying the wounded people rushed to hospital in the trauma. burn, bear.