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measurements began almost 40 years ago, the legendary british rock band, pink floyd, has released its 1st new song in nearly 30 years to support people displaced by russia's invasion of ukraine. ah, the musicians teamed up with a vocalist from one of ukraine's biggest bands in a song called hey, rise up money raise will go to ukraine. humanitarian relief. ah, again, i'm fully battle with the headlines on al jazeera palestinian gunmen suspected of carrying out an attack in tel aviv has been shot dead after a manhunt. palestinian prison mahmoud abbas has condemned the attack saying it only leads to a further deterioration of the situation. oh dab dab eat as more from television a lot of people are not only shocked by by the fact that this gunman could come
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here in the heart of delivery, one of the busiest streets specially on a weekend. and then it took them 9 hours to capture him. in the meantime, he had gone all the way to java. it's only 4 kilometers away from here, but certainly buys really standers were usually a gunman are sort of shot immediately on the spot or they can run away. but for a very short time, this is a big security labs. ukraine's president is wanting that the scale of killings in borrowed junk is much worse than in nearby butcher where at least $300.00 people are known to have died for. to me. as a lensky says, they are even more victims in the town north west of cave european commission present aust, lavonne de leon is travelling to keep. she'll hold talks with present lensky. the visit comes amid mounting international outrage over a ledge atrocities in ukraine. pakistan's prime minister in ron khan could be removed from office as early as saturday political workers from the opposition
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people's party celebrated earlier after the supreme court. will that cons move to resolve parliament and call for early elections was illegal? us senators have made history by confirming the 1st black woman to the supreme court. the vote folk, aton g brown, jackson was 53 in favor, 47 against prison. joe biden was who nominated her says she'll be an incredible justice. at least 12 people have died in northwest columbia after part of a mining camp was washed away by heavy rains and flooding. the local mer says a minus were having dinner when they became trapped after flood waters destroyed part of the plant. and more than half a 1000000 people in puerto rico are still without electricity, after a fire and a power station on wednesday night, some intensive care units on the u. s. territory lost power during the blackout. and those are the headlines on al jazeera. i'll have more news for you right after the stream do stay with us or china in the us sleep walking their way to war in the
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struggle over ukraine. here's the test for president joe biden with really trying to do is rewrite the security architecture of your personal united states. you seriously go to walk and chew gum at the same time. you'll weekly take on us politics and i think that's the bottom line with . welcome to the stream, i'm much habit dean. as russian troops continue their assault on ukraine, western governments have tightened sanctions against russian leaders and entities while publicly supporting ukrainian popular resistance and opening their borders to refugees. but palestinian leaders and commentators say such backing is absent for people and during israel's illegal occupation of the west bank and east jerusalem as well as its blockade of gaza. today we ask why there are such double standards and mainstream support for people resisting occupation. joining us today,
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hallad bay doin' is a law professor at wayne state university and a scholar and national security and civil rights. he's in the u. s. city of detroit . also ines ab, that is, it is advocacy director for the palestine institute for public diplomacy and independent palestinian organisation. she is joining us from occupied east drew salem and from gaza. we have how much that have heat and how us he is a writer and a journalist. and a quick reminder, we want you to be part of this conversation too. so send me your comments and questions and are you to chat and i'll bring them straight to our guests. thank you all for being with us. i want to start a ines with you. you are enduring and living under israel's occupation. i'm curious what it's been like for you to watch how the world has sort of rallied behind ukraine's right to resistance and how you compare that with your own right to resist. yeah, thank you very much. number. happy to be with you. yeah, it's been, i think, very frustrating and creating for pasting and to see how things have been
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criminalized gas lighted. and i think, you know, constantly being told that they don't have a right to resist so that their tourists will that their answer, semi just for asking or right or national rights are being denied. and so we're seeing completely an opposite reaction and very clear, you know, accountability functions that are being taken in 2 weeks and for publishing. and this has been ongoing for 74 years. yeah. it's certainly glaring to many, you know, these sort of hypocrisies and double standards. i do want to play what the president of palestine would have had to say with the us secretary of state sitting next to him. it's not as if these grievances are not being made in diplomatic channels. let's take a listen. the current events in europe is shown plate and double standards. despite the crimes of the railway occupation that amounts to
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ethnic cleansing and racial discrimination as recognised by human rights organizations. in addition to the attack on sanctity and the lack of respect for international law, we find no one who is holding israel responsible for behaving as a state above the college. when you're here in the us and you hear about, they're making essentially the same, the same claim, right? we've seen this kind of perfect series of human rights violations in ukraine, and we've seen other atrocities happen. we've seen the international response really being unified being robust, but also being hypocritical to you. what are the most striking hypocrisies are double standards and is it constructive to point them out? yeah, he could is, i think the meeting reaction that you know that i had an individual locally had was the, the racial and racist dimensions of it all that we could embrace and bod freedom
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fighters who were, why were blind here? lie? obviously being echoed by pundits, but took the news immediately after the invasion. once you dig deeper into the, the racial races, dimensions of it all, the, just the position. that's why palestinians can get the same the same, but you know, a semblance of humanity, the ukrainians. good because the real politic of it. all right, that ukraine has special cover the significance for western nations, western media outlets in palestine occupying a position of office opposition. ality with regard to no political interest. so it, the media reaction was one race and racism. but once you dug deeper, you realize that race race isn't a big part to play right with how real politic is deployed. and i want to talk more about racism about the real politics, the geo politics of this all, which is obviously also influencing a lot of the disparity that we're discussing. before we do that,
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i want to come to you because, you know you're living in gaza, you're working as a journalist. and as you watch sort of western governments as well as western companies kind of fall over themselves to get in line to sanction rush to boycott. russia to divest from russia and citing russian aggression, citing the fact that they are bombing hospitals, they're bombing schools, they're bombing journalists, things that you have enjoyed living in god's just this past summer, but also many years before. how does it feel and how much and where does your mind go? what comes to your mind? yes, i think it is really shockingly surprising to recall the events happening over the past 2 weeks. but i think it's really necessary to get a little bit of memory all the time. this whole crisis trucks in the 1st russian troops at hood and ukraine and february 24th. i mean the media has been watching and covering and applauding the crying in people's bravery. and resilience with,
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you know, not have been increased. stass is coming out of washington supporting ukraine's right to self defense and resistance, and to sovereignty. and then, you know, hundreds of civilians took up arms and joined ukrainian on troops as soon as russia began to invade. and, you know, to defend her whole land against an indisputably superior power. and even after show started to rain on cities and civilians, a sort of devastating military infrastructure and residential areas like we have seen, you know, brave troops and civilians calling it clear that they will continue to fight for their nation's freedom until the very end. um, but before i get to more diffuse, i guess we should declare a nation's like right to resist and find an occupation or a legal military jurisdiction. all right. the people, regardless of the circumstances surrounding the area where they're do political or whatsoever. and you know, i think so, so much of this. mm hm. and sorry to cut you off, but so much of this really does beg the question, is this about human rights,
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or is this about western hegemony? is this about geopolitical aims? is this about shifting alliances? the reason i ask is, it's not just palestine so many other, whether you want to call them genocides ethnic cleansing, collective punishments. i mean college we've seen time and time again, this selective championing of human rights. and i kind of want to ask you, based on what we heard from ham mud, and by the way, please feel free to jump in, right? because because otherwise we will never get to everything we want to get to but, but, but, but my brought something up that was very interesting. if you take a look at my screen, kind of this is how the independent one news organization. but countless have kind of been, i won't even say, glorifying the molotov cocktails that we've seen ukrainians throw at russian soldiers, ukraine's government, encouraging citizens to make the bombs. we've seen that same thing happen. know in the western media and western politicians, you know, championing this this movement of mass molotov cocktail manufacturing. i to me it's
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so glaring because if you look at this article from hearts, you know, this is just a couple weeks ago as this was all playing out. you know, mom and fill out one young palestinian boy just one of several who were killed by israeli soldiers for intending to use the molotov intending to use a molotov cocktail. ah, how is it that an intention justifies your murder in the context of palestine college. but somehow in ukraine, it's not only glorified or praised, but it's, it's, it's, it's seen as expected and normal. yeah, that's the whole absurdity of this. all right, is that the object matters less than the individual, the subject areas. so in the case of the fact that it's the brown boy who is out of being who you know, is tied to the terrorist threat that's been construct over the last 20 years of the war on terror. eliminates the ball popular from being an instrument of migration.
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and instrument of freedom fighting, but once you take that object, put it in the hands of a white subject, the ukrainian subject. immediately they're being lauded to being celebrated and your freedom fighter. the word terrorist never pops up on any other media coverage when it comes to ukrainian. so you know, it's baffling. it's frustrating, again when you step back and realize that the media and the media has a very, you know, strategic, political objective and they've been just complicit. the propagation of how we think about terrorism, how we think about freedom biting from a specifically rachel lynn. and you know, in that's i wonder what you think about that. the role of the media and racism which you know, we heard khalid reference, is it fair to say that the mainstream media are signaling essentially to the world that if white live are being attacked, that somehow that, that warren swift action that war and accountability. i mean, obviously it's not just raise but, but what do you think is, is,
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what is this just about international law moving forward and how it will or will not be applied? yes, of course, it plays a big role. i wouldn't say, i don't understand when you know when, when europeans get more empathy towards their neighboring europeans, i mean, that's a human being will always be more empathetic to their neighbor. however, hear clearly when it comes to eric muslims. and what alenta said, there is a presumption of guilt, and i think, i think it is, it's something as well in israel and palestine right like israel. this one wants to present itself as this beacon of the western world. it's a european settler colony that is surrounded by, you know, errands and we're not even seen on this thing is what we've seen as these. this is without again, national identity. i think this plays a huge role because automatically when we, you know, throw a stone in the face of oppression automatically. this is seen as skilled, and israelis reaction seen as more legitimate. and i think, you know, what you were saying about international law is very important because,
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and i have some form of optimism that all of this is exposed at the moment. but clearly there is a, you know, this, this massive hypocrisy when it comes to international law and the respect of it, as well as, as human rights that are supposed to be universal. and again, we're seeing here that suddenly international law is again at the center of uh, you know, the scene at the center of discussions in geopolitics. when, on the one hand, you see russia has been going actually getting away with every single genia in georgia, et cetera. but also israel for decades has been completely, you know, getting away with impunity when it comes to crime lab and documented again and again. and i wonder what that impunity actually does. not just for other populations, words fighting resistance or seeking basic human dignity. but what, when you allow it in one instance, which for israel, you know, it's, it's been true for decades. i just wonder how my listening to what in i said and
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knowing that we've seen, you know, russia thrown out of the world cup by fi fi despite palestinian calling for israel to be thrown out. but that not happening. we've even seen russian caps now can't compete in international competitions, according to the federation. 2 international federation of feline, you know, cats, i mean, i bring these points up not to, to make fun of what's happening. but just to show the extreme difference in the way the media is reacting and individual organizations. how mad living in gaza. enduring that erasing by the media or at least the dehumanization that we, you know, the mainstream media has been come, come known for when it comes to covering this and your life. i mean, what do you see is the role in the media? what frustrates you most about it? well it's, it's really devastating and frustrating and i believe or not. and looking into things, comparatively, i mean, on the other side of the world,
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we must say that palestinians have been all fighting for, you know, basic human rights for not only a week or 2 or even months, but for a 7 continued day kids. and we ourselves know exactly what it is to be like under oppression, an occupation very well. and i'm recalling here all the parts of historic palestine, including jerusalem, west banking, gauze, or you know, pretty good examples and the horrific attacks against palestinians in those cities and places are typical of what it means to be under military occupation. i mean, hundreds of children killed and arrested and many, many families. i've been swapped off the civil registry and the continued ethnic cleansing of the indigenous, palestinian of the native population. since it's track since i'm in 1948. and i'm also, you know, recalling the pushing with tv and reason for our struggle. it's really necessary to point this out. that palestinians, we never based our struggle on a course. so, you know, race or heritage or culture language, religion. but for the mere human rights from which we have been denied for over 7
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decades. yeah. you know like equality justice, health, education and more importantly above all, freedom you know. right. and it's, and it's important for you to point out that it's not just about the right to resist invasion or occupation. it's about the right to just have basic human rights guaranteed. even outside of yet, please call a jump in. yes, i can jump in about your point about one of the, this is the selected use of human rights or deployment. right? so i think the question that's fundamental to this conversation is, what is, what is international law and what is human rights? what purpose is international law have today? right, so we saw a couple of weeks ago how regime of government that way that is not only complicit, but engineering are the most destructive ethnic, cleansing campaigns of the world. i'm talking about china here regarding weaver muslims just stayed in the winter olympics. right. and a lot of western government, western corporations been embedded. i, even though we have 2000000, we're muslims,
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rock and concentration counts. right. so the fact that we're punishing russia for the conversion, which might be just demonstrate that there is no metrical or equal application of international law, it's simply a geopolitical tool used by powerful government interests that align with the richard. and i think that this is another case that we're making optimistic really quick. so yeah, speaking, no, no i, i think these are popular so you can contradiction intersect with a really interesting time. the fact that mainstream and legacy media around the decline and digital media is i'm inclined. so i'm seeing what i'm noticing is a lot of individuals on the ground all over the world are far more in tune to these contradictions than they were 10 or even 20 years ago. know, and i appreciate you bringing that point up because as we all know, you know, social media giants, the big companies, they've been rushing to take action to not only protect ukrainian free speech, but that while also silencing really racing palestinian voices using
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the same justifications of you know, their terms of service, we have a video common that was sent to us by when she works. you know, in this regard, documenting the sort of disparities. let's take a look what she had say. we got a senior living with his annual image is taken by social media last funds in support of you can despite the fact that we have long demanded many of them, these are i think the different pharmacies in the context of wars and occupation. it seems like the are going to stand, it's when it comes to the city seeing codes, for example, on makers of the company, the wearing distance described ukrainian people right to fight against certain invasion while the word resistance. it said one of the very reason why somebody see new content was taken down from this platform. this is timothy. hi focus. he's allowing the old to fire still carry so hate speech and inside me they guess. okay, steve, by now holding them accountable or syncing their content which leads to 8 or entire
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college, i'm going to come back to you and then in us, i would love to hear from the rest of you to i'm going to come back to you to push back a little bit, i mean, it is encouraging hopeful that we're seeing the decline of centralized media, but then we're also seeing these and also media companies kind of echo some of these same disparities and double standards. i mean, changing their, hey speech policy temporarily to allow people to call for the an i a lation of russian soldiers, the russia, russian individuals. while we saw since last summer, palestinians who not only are, let's say they're not calling for that. and i lation of israel know there are simply saying palestine has, you know, a right to exist and not seen as inciting violence or that violates their terms. i mean, doesn't not give you some pessimism or should we be optimistic? no, i think i think that's exactly right. and the comments you made i think lead. so what i call qualify optimism, right? with that look i was i was victim beach out of band and instagram on twitter when i
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was posting about palestine last year. right. so i had specific hopes that were moving happening and a far more intense level for individuals within the occupied territories, but also places like kashmir in india, we're seeing big corporations which work really closely collaboratively with governments like united states like india, like israel to make sure that activists dissidence on the ground in their countries don't have the virtual platform, don't have the ability to speak and bringing light issues that are happening on the ground. well, i mean it's, it's interesting to me, to hear you say that. and in that i want to hear from you because this silencing this censorship, or the criminalization of palestinian voices. and you know, whether about resistance or anything else. i can help. but notice, i mean there's this, i don't know if you've seen this on march. 3rd, there is a representative named lisa. then take a look at my screen here. this is a republican from new york. he introduced the israel anti boycott act. this is essentially to criminalize,
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any boy caught her cause for boycott against israel. this was one day after he treated this on twitter, saying the u. s. should immediately stop the importation of all russian oil ramp of domestic energy production instead. and you know, i think this is such a strong juxtaposition. he's calling for santa sanctioning are boycotting russian oil. but at the same time, we've seen 35 states have laws, resolutions and executive orders, restricting or trying to do what this act that he's introduced is trying to do when you see these efforts. and we just heard from college, you know, him being shadow band and i know you're familiar with others on the ground in palestine. where do you have hope that this moment can maybe clarify some of these double standards? yeah, i mean, you know, ive activists, i think underground i work a lot actually with our friends at hamlin, where she works to, to documents and to fight these, we spend a lot of energy actually trying to push back against accusation and criminalization
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. so the strategy has been very clear. 5 for, for many years now, and it actually can mirror quite a bit the tactics of russia, right? this information and criminalization of ukraine invoices. basically, israel has been pushing, you know, the politicized definition of anti semitism in order to enable any criticism of israel and to submit it. and on the other hand, accusing thing of being terrorists, you know, and jewels that do tremendous work on the ground. the problem is that when it comes to the west, and this is both of them, they make corporations, again, social media platforms. but from also government is that right? you know, when israel say something, it's taken to face value and they're kind of listened to as in good faith as in there's some bits of truth to what they're thing even if they're late and like this information in life. whereas, you know, when you obviously hear like russia are you, what's russia, this information? it, there's an automatic reaction that obviously this might be buffer,
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this might be this information or when it comes to try it out for that matter. and you know, july hop and who's a journalist and occupied east jerusalem. he sent us some thoughtful comments that kind of referred to some of what you were talking about there. let's take a listen and then i'll come, come back to me. how much is jealous not able to come up with one clear response towards the russian visions you claim as a dealership is humbling, the are paying lip service when it comes to condemning atrocities. we are seeing the evidence we are witnessing the old crime, spinnington ukraine by russian invaders. and we are also understanding that as jen is unable to read them, those will credit because is, are itself is accused of such were crimes. one last summer humorist watch accused is just commuting probable work times in gaza during the discriminant bombing of civilian population, gaza, centered in the west bank. there are cases in the hague, currently, or as, as accused of for crimes. because of the violations of the geneva conventions where it is displacing policies under occupation and replacing them with jewish settlers
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from abroad. huh. then our youtube channel mar. d. 9. 170 is asking, why don't we ban israel from the human rights council at the un? i don't know if you're familiar today, there was actually a vote if you look my screen here. these are all the countries that voted to suspend russia from the human rights council at the un, just 2 weeks ago, the same body, the human rights council, accused israel being guilty of the crime of apartheid under international law. and even though they did that, you know, at the same time, we see israel now voting to suspend russia, even though they don't believe in this body. i mean, it never ends right? these double standards and hypocrisies, but, but in your mind, what should, what should the world be paying attention to? yes, i think it's been really understandable after 4 major words in gaza from time to time. has made it clear enough that fighting and military violation or aggression against or people is totally, you know, dependent on the identity of your aggressor. you know, with not rigor to the human tragic consequences on the people on the ground. so
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a simple, immediate coverage comparison between the coverage of the brain rashad rishon and gaza, clearly showed buyers and seems tiered towards the european struggle by the western meter not lifting the palestinian. let's say responsive resistance that carry down defending the civilian populations of palestinian gossip. yeah, and you know, and so the waiting. yeah. yeah. well i'm sorry, i don't want to cut you off. we don't have a lot of time left. i do want to just point to this point that gelatin made how much valid. he said i was talking about how israel is trying this balancing act. of course, they violate syria sovereignty with thousands of air strikes, just as russia has for the better part of a decade. and there was no accountability now that had happened to white european modernized ukrainians for give me for making so so freely, you know, we're seeing accountability, what do you make of israel's role? and these geopolitical shift, the u. e. and saudi ignoring the u. s. israel being condemned by the u. s. highly. so this is why i think rain race and even the broader war on terror is very,
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very silly right up. and it says europe, the civilized and the middle east is i'm civilized. so israel take the prediction that it is sorted, be the one civilized actor in the broader life region. actually has the ability to police with impunity. people who live in the civilized region, whether they're palestinian serious air about large. but what it takes place in europe, going to take place in the bathroom civilization, even though the batch of civilization is responsible for the 2 world wars where it was responsible for the genocide, bosnian muslims 25 years ago. that it's, it's a warranty, right? it shocked the conscience. so israel, in some respects and capitalizing on being a white settler colonial state with broader ocean and civil life. and i'm glad you brought it out there and made all those historical references. that's actually all the time we have for today. i'm going to end on a tweet from hannah, shall we? unless the victim is white, european christian resistance is terrorism. international law doesn't apply.
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