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to impose any lockdown public health officials were also quick to revise their strategy when the highly transmissible omicron variant took hold. in some teaser look, we're done and we transition to a system for a large scale outbreak. placing more important on a universal approach under the ordinary system, while raising the vaccination rate and administering oral treatment to south korea is seen as a success in terms of how it's handling the pandemic. even so officials have not let their guard down. the health ministry is offering a 2nd booster shot of the corona virus maxine to people aged 60 and above the w h o has recently warned. the corona virus is far from becoming an endemic disease and could still trigger outbreaks around the world. florence li al jazeera, so ah, this is our desert. these you top stories. crowds of worshippers returned to alex
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and moss for prayers hours off. tis rarely forces to tame 300 people. there at least a 150 palestinians have been injured during those confrontations that her name has more from occupying his choice. this is considered by many palestinians, a provocation. in fact, some palestinian groups were calling this a quote, declaration of war. having again, is really police inside the our acts them off is a kind of red line. and the is really government knows that in the initial hours of the clashes, what went on for several hours. but in the initial period desperate, i'm sure to quell any additional violence. the israeli foreign ministry actually incorrectly tweeted that reports of police inside the moth were quote, fake. obviously, we know that liter turned out not to be true. a funeral for a 17 year old palestinian has been held in the village of cooper done in the
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occupied. westbank is one of 6 palestinians killed in raids. my israeli forces since wednesday russia has attacked a military plan ne ukraine's capital. and his warning, it could step up, a tax on key crane is also being warned of a heavy price to pay if russian cities are attacked. south africa's army has been called in to help with rescue and cleanup efforts of the west flooding in 60 years . at least 395 people have been killed and thousands more injured. the number of casualties from flooding in the philippines is also rising. 156 people have now died and more than 200 are missing. tropical storm meggy dumped heavy rain of the central late province. for days. china is warning the us. it's going down a dangerous path by sending politicians to taiwan. 5 senators and congressmen are currently in taipei. okay, those are headlines. they're raised to succeed rodrigo. the 3rd to as president of
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the philippines is heading into its spinal stretches, struggling with its worst recess. and in years the country is desperate for solutions. but what are the candidates offering and what direction will the philippines think? under your leadership, special coverage on house 0 with i have family ok thanks for watching the stream. back in april of 2020. i house the stream from my house for months and months and months. we did from april all the way through to june 28. back to back hope related shows. there was so much to learn . there was so much, we didn't know. so 2 years into our global pandemic. what we need to know now, today's episode is all about catching up, the latest news from covey. and i can't do that without you your questions, your comments put them into, into youtube, and i will wrap them into today's show. let us meet our panel of doctors. so i'm
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going to say hello to margaret to at made aunt in marion. good to have you all here on the stream, margaret teasing my audience, who you are and what you do. hi, fanny, it's great to be back with you. i'm a doctor. also a journalist and i specialize in public health, emergency risk communications and work for the world health organization. i think it to have. it's like having the fat fight, having a family reunion. med welcome right to the stream. we always love having you on the stream pleasing on our audience, who you are and what you do. thanks for holding me. so my name's i'm regarding my daughter, an emergency medicine i was was being a drummer. get to hattie and hello, maria. welcome to the street. please introduce yourself to our viewers around the world. yes, good evening. i'm my uncle months. i'm a head over ology of erasmus medical center. and i'm obviously ever ologist and a veterinarian, my background, and work on emerging viruses. guess what is the most important piece of covey
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related needs you have heard recently, mariani stock. well, it's actually a 2 examples. one is the situation in china with the challenge in trying to control the outbreak in shanghai and now moving to one's our so. so the phase that china is and the challenges that china is facing with putting the all micron. and the 2nd example is coming from south africa where it looks like to know variance of amik ron are, have been popping up. and i think a 4 and 5, and that's something we need to keep our eyes out for our. and that is nice to me. thank you for that. because we can talk about variance in just a moment at night news to you. and as you need to share cuz it related, what is it i think is the, the idea of, i guess test being less available thing by the u. k. release that they're going to start making test, being treated available for people,
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which is just gonna make it more more difficult for us to spot these new parents are coming up. so that's one of the things i think is quite surprising to hear about in a way understandable. and margaret. your headline? yeah, just tonight. we got some very good news out of an expected place, ukraine. they've become a spoke of the hub. 5 the messenger r n a hub, and what that means, the messenger r n a hub is based in south africa, but they're providing the expertise to companies in countries around the world. so that the messenger r n. a technology for vaccines can be shared, and ukraine's become the latest to have a company doing this. it's just starting now. that's extraordinary. my 1st thought, other than these, these important new stories, nice nice developments that you've brought to us don't. this is how we doing as a world dr. chris set in is that all right to the pan america,
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health organization. this is how she summarized how we're doing, have a listen, how to look over the last few weeks, many countries on territories in the americas. how scaled back probably have measures and some have done so prematurely as travel restrictions are a current, several son in places not to rely on our zone, especially in parts of north america and the caribbean, where vaccination coverage is i see you nodding, this is how well behaving in some parts of the world to have an impact on other parts of the world. your thoughts about what to dr. chris add to say that well, this is exactly the phase we are in. there was a world health organization that age our emergency committee meeting this week that looked at the very bare army with this pandemic. and it's actually this sort of
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global split where you have countries where, because of, well the, the situation and the virus is, is running quite high because there sir, not many restrictions anymore. and there's other bars of the world that are still trying to very much contain arm and are looking at at their so. so we have this diversion in the world and it's challenging phase because we are in this transition from the really acute phase of the pandemic. to somewhere in the future. but what exactly that future will be beyond not sure yet, so we still have to be on our toes about what these fires can do, which surprises speak and see. and, and the conclusion also of the emergency committee meeting was, please do not think this is over. please keep looking at these as the public health emergency that it is. and that requires global coordinated action. walketh ahead
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sir. yes. and marian is the absolutely right. in fact, there was very little debate in the emergency committee on whether public health emergency of international concern exists. and it is very concerning that a lot of countries we're looking when we look at our numbers with the k, the testing strategies ah, changing people, countries are dropping the number of tests and doing so, even though we're reporting low numbers of cases, our epidemiologist is saying that our numbers should be interpreted with caution because so many countries are not just dropping their restrictions, but no longer doing the testing no longer really tracking what's happening with this virus. and that is really concerning. i'm at this is exactly what you are saying in the u. k. they are stopping funding for testing. so you on your own, your yeah, it's quite a complicated thing and i can see the point of why for testing is important,
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especially for us in terms of trying to find what the new variance i coming off and things like that. but at the same time as reached a position where as in yes, numbers, records high up current of virus in the possibly can the u. k. but it didn't reflect that in terms of hospital admissions. i was seeing and i was spending a whole week and the resource department, so the, the most sick patients that kind of came into the emergency department. and none of them were any of the kobe patients will suffer from any symptoms kind of ours. they may have corona virus, but they've come in presenting with the scientists and that just just in case of ours. so there is a risk to remove some of these measures. but at the same time, you know, we're not testing everyone who comes in with them to answer and i've been to out exactly what straight to answer is. what exactly what strain, those of kern of ours kind of ours isn't a new virus. it's been around for years, but it's just that in 20192220. 20. i guess be tatum,
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since i mean that became very deadly and spread rapidly. maybe it's something us mutated into something less deadly to vaccines working. but it's just difficult to balance it. it's very expensive to continue the past, especially for some of the poor countries around the world to continue providing free pcr tests and things like that. i. yeah, i think so the testing has extra 2 goals and i think that's what we really need to put put take apart. testing has been really a pillar of our ability to know who was infected, who needed isolation, and who you could then also what and to quarantine. now that is now loose and certainly in, in, for instance, in europe because of this decoupling between infection and severe disease. and that is because of the high level of vaccination. now that situation is very different. if you are in a region where you don't have that high coverage, or if he would face an ovarian that are,
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we cannot be sure that they will all have this same relatively mild diseased presentation. so, so that's a reason why i think at least the, the infrastructure for that testing needs to be treasured so that it can be put back up. oh, when need is my lay person's question if we're not testing widely, how do we know about new variance? so marrying you told us about new variance in south africa, can you tell us what they on and should me be disturbed by them all the variance of consign. so we don't know that yet, or what we do know is that there is in 2 regions in south africa. now an increase of these new variance be a for and be a 5 over of the previous variance. and so these are variance of our micron. so they are essentially on micron viruses with some additional mutations. and those
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mutations are in sports that makes us think it could be something to her or how immunity protects. we don't know that for sure, yet that needs to be validated and that's work that's ongoing or, and that will be looked at by the w h o in the coming weeks are, but it is an example of the kind of surprise we can still expect to with these viruses, as long as they keep circulating though widely can, can i can i can i add to just really emphasize that point that marian's making? she mentioned there were 2 reasons for testing. one is indeed to know who is infected, to keep the, the, basically the infected away from the healthy. but the other big thing, and the other thing we're very concerned about is if you're not testing, we're not being going to be able to do the genetic sequencing to identify the variance. now we're really lucky, the south africans have done this great work. this is a 2nd time around, they've really shown one doing the work achieves,
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but we need this to be happening everywhere. we've got huge amounts of virus circulating. we've seen that with our mccormick void up 5 sub lineages. and several of them are causing a lot of trouble. so if we're not tracking, we're not finding out whether there's something around the corner that's going to give us a lot more annabelle, so that i'm actually, i guess, yeah, this like if this is a really oh, this is a real debate i, because if you're not testing because you can't afford it and you're not going to know something that could really cost you later down the line. i might, no, it is quite complicated because let's say you, do you got sometimes you what the code like sci fi? you got a bit of a cost and you took the test and you, you know, coven comes on negative. does that mean you're safe to go on like, walk around in the cities and go spread whatever virus you have and you may have another virus is just not covered, right? so it's just, it's quite complicated to be like, you know, we need to just keep testing for this one specific virus. one we testing for all the bars as well. the other influences all the that may be more deadly to,
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to the vulnerable population than co, than, than the alma kong barry. and of course it is to some people. so it's quite difficult to say, yeah, let's just keep testing so that we can protect it. i do agree do to maintain own infrastructure. i do believe influenza. we do, we do just reinforce influence around the world. we. we do send no surveys all the time in all parts of the world. we don't, you're quite right. we don't do population wide. we do it through various general practices designated. i don't, but we, i do understand what i mean. he's saying he's not in the same way. i have a cough, ice and legal and get it to a test to check to see if i've got how because i'm working in an environment with other counties. i need to make sure i'm not spending kind of a to them. if i had before 2020, if i had a cough, i might probably come to work which is a terrible thing, but we'd like to learn better social distance in
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a better practices. i for the last 2 years and me probably have done for all of that period up to them. let me just bring in another doctor into a conversation. this is doctor ok. well, he's the deputy director of africa, c d c. this is what he told us area to be only 15 percent of the african population is fully rock submitted. and this is a very far from the target that we have set of 70 percent by the end of this year 2022. um, 2 key challenges that are facing the continent from our delivery perspective. getting the work seems from the the storage 2nd view from a public perspective are members of the public find it difficult to leave the economic activities to go and get vaccinated. are these 2 when they are solved, then we'll start seeing that the vaccination rates increase on the continent.
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zonati asked as a sunny return loss episode, what is the hold up in vaccination rates? in some parts of the world? is it still a supply issue or lack of confidence in the vaccine among some communities? mother, i'm going to ask you to handle this one because the debate show by this point was expecting 70 percent of countries to being vaccinated by now at mother help us out with us. yes, certainly, and it was a supply issue that was last year's problem. so now in fact, it's almost flipped the other way. we have got a really good supply, but countries that have been waiting and waiting, but didn't know when they were going to get anything. understandably, hadn't got their teams ready. i didn't have their teams on stand by because they didn't know that have a vaccine. now suddenly the tap has not only been opened, it's flooding and not every country is ready. so where now working very, very hard,
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particularly with countries that are struggling to go from getting the vaccine from the airport through the coaching, by the teams, into people's arms that has improved. i mean, in the last month, i think we delivered 77000000, but they're all countries with very, very low vaccination rates. some of the other problem is indeed hesitancy. a put people in countries that were waiting for a year to get vaccines have become very suspicious suddenly that they've got a lot of vaccine coming this angle. why we got it now, is that the bad vaccine? so you do have that, that lack of supply actually to greater hesitancy at all. the issues are just simply getting the teams funding the teams having the transport, the logistics, even the pitcher to put in the cars and the boats and feeding the donkeys that you have to pay to get out to where you go. so it's, it's much more difficult that's sitting than simply sending it. but last year,
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just getting hands on vaccine was the problem. on youtube. i got this question. i'm gonna check with you. i've actually, you go ahead cuz i know you've got more say about faxing and equity, and then i'll put the future question to you. go ahead. wasn't one of the things i wanted me to highlight is instead of like having this huge focus on trying to get as much testing a mentor testing available, getting these vaccines out there, spreading the awareness about what they are is essentially, i guess key to making sure that we do have them, you know, it was on the call are covered in general. but the real question is that, like you said, the dice in qualities is out that like the prices are rising every 6 months or so finally decides to increase the price of, of its own vaccine. so when we say that people are struggling to get vaccines and my poor countries, part of the reason is that i know there are cheaper vaccine options out there available. but some of them don't have us a strong community, as far as, as all the boxes are using in the west. so it's is about trying to make
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a level playing field. these vaccines one made just our private investment. a lot of the vaccines were came out public funding, so i'm not sure people like to bash donald trump. he put millions of dollars into vaccine development, which is public funding. this should be publicly available to people to rob along not just maintain and private institutions. my, i had this question on the chief, i want to share with you. and it was a question about how to re find trust in public officials and medical professionals. because there's been a 2 years of misinformation as well as great information that misinformation. i'm a nation as well. in fact, on youtube right now, i'm not going to let you look at any cheap right now, because there's some stuff going on there that even 2 years into a pandemic, that's still misinformation flying around. are we better act coping with that now? are we more savvy about understanding what is accurate? what is it?
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how can i i think that's one of the big challenges of this pandemic. it's also been called in for demick and certainty around vaccination, and there's a lot of stories out there that if people just go on the internet and, and google may may come across. so i think what we've learned that it is important to really have trusted sources, what, but there has been studies that have shown people trust their, their own physicians, for instance, better than some others. and it is important to, to find those trust it a sides of information that may be also you can put on your website to after that program a big it because it is a struggle and there's a so, but we also have to be careful and there's a lot of people that have questions about vaccines that are valid that just need to be answered. they are not entirely sure that it's not being anti vaccine. it's just
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someone who really wants to understand what these vaccines do and do not do. and so it is important to really keep after have the patients provide that information carefully say what we'd know, say what we don't know and, and that i thing in the and this really yeah, what is needed? i'm gonna put all a new doctor. so when he does his on nauseous, how much information, good information dot to lucy mcbride is a primary cat doctor. and she's pushing as in the direction of adapting to the global pandemic that we're in right now. how should we behave going full it, he, she is as a primary care doctor who says teenager is the parents of younger children. and as a mother myself, my biggest concern about kids and teenagers right now is the effect of prolong school closures on their social, emotional, and medical health. at this moment, the pandemic is appropriate to recognize that children and teens as an age cohort
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is the lowest risk for serious outcomes from cupboard, yet have been subjected to some of the strictest mitigation measures. it's time for us to recognize that children have broad health and human needs, that we need to address their mental and physical health in tandem. and that is time for them to be back in school with their peers. their mentors there is teacher is unrestricted. as time to mitigate the risk of coven 19 alongside the risk for other health harms that they inevitably face. and then it started at night on this, on because we have a generation now, a pandemic generation of kate's. and i'm sure you've been on social media. anything, cates that were bulking at the dog, and they were bulking cuz they hadn't socialized because they'd been at home for a whole year and they hadn't met anybody. and all sorts of interesting things that happened to ad youngsters a young generation. because i've been growing up in a pandemic. what do we do about that hot night? what do you think halloween, the food now? i think it's really quite difficult. there was a paper released
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a couple of months ago looking at these children who, you know, all the schools and lessons, everything was done on i pads or laptops and things like that. there's actually going to those being evidence of withdrawal symptoms from gotcha. as soon as they start going back into schools and inability to focus things on that, it's quite dangerous to think about a whole generation people who haven't really engaged. and i don't, we don't really know what the issue is going to be in the future for them. i still don't have any other forms of social anxiety. and that's something that i think is urgent for us to talk because these are our future generations, right? so what we need to be doing is slowly reengage them back to school. some of them have this fear of, you know, socializing with their friends going outside. not because fear of the virus, but generally because they haven't engaged with anyone other than their own parents . so we need to try to make going back to school as fun as quick and smooth as possible for them, not adding extra restrictions to them. and you know, you need to be far away from the child next door. i don't think that's really in
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the long time in this current environment, something that's stage to a teacher, children to continue. i have one more that hangs out. there's also been, that's also been mentioned right, recommended by the w h o that are in this phase of the pandemic. really, school short closure should be avoided, which also means looking at the future, the near future, the vendor or where we have to prepare for possible increases again. but where the recommendation is, the last thing you do is close schools because exactly of the reasons that were explained there. having said that, there's also things that can be done in schools. there's the issue of fan elation. and there is the thinking about if the numbers increase again, what can we do also in the school system or to help sort of limit the spread a little bit without closing the schools. and that's certainly something that that
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is recommend it are in the different parts of the world now. oh, marian false about thank a saying they're saying yeah, gamma, but i, it is. yeah, i is we, we've been working very hard, not just us, but the unicef, our sister agency read and been looking at what can we do to make schools safe? obeta not just full curvy but for over spirited diseases. i think anybody who's had a child knows that they constantly have a cold because their kids brought some yet another thing back home from school. so let's take this opportunity to make them places where our kids don't constantly get respiratory illnesses improve the ventilation improved the way they interact and do so much more. we owe it to this generation to give them a better chance of much better health through going to school. thank you so much. i just want to ok. yes, yes, on a did you got just an extra 32nd sound going to give his head? yeah, it's just how,
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how extremely unethical is for us to see sold out arenas like the super bowl a 100000 people that all the playoffs. yet we still have some schools are closed all over my house so much. i says there's always so much to talk about when we're catching up on the ladies from cove it. thank you to dr. ahmed, marianne margaret. i am going to leave you with a campaign that was a chilling campaign from africa. cdc and mastercard foundation is young people across africa doing their best in college, other young people to get vaccinated. i. so watching cnx, i with
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