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hours. already say a residential area in the eastern city of kirk eve of rockets, killing one person, an injury, 18 others. charles stratford isn't ukraine's capital with the latest. we know that there are hundreds of thousands of people still inside the city. i visited it a months ago and went into underground shelters. the metro station, for example being used people living in pretty terrifying conditions in those bunkers. and as you, as, as we say, they are daily daily attacks happening on car cave. and we understand that as it is as a result of a push by russian forces form areas around car cave heading south, trying to take greater control of the more territory in those eastern regions in lou ganske and don at sc taliban authorities. and i've got his don have summoned pakistan's ambassador after alleged military strikes inside afghanistan,
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it took more than a year at somalia. finally has a new parliament impede are sworn in after a drawn out election? can they tackle the countries challenges and how will they deal with tensions between the prime minister and the president? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammered jim jerome. it was an election where most people didn't get to vote, but one that the international community said was needed for stability in somalia.
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leaders from powerful clans, civil society organizations and regional officials picked more than $270.00 m. p 's for the new national parliament. they been sworn in more than a year behind schedule. there were disputes about a complex electoral process as well as tensions between the prime minister and president. parliament's 1st task is to choose a new speaker and president. it's all happening as the united nations warned somali as worst drought in dec, it could trigger another famine. malcolm web reports. it's taken more than a year and thousands of lives to get to hear the appointment of somali as new parliament around about 250 and peas and 50 senators have been sworn in in a ceremony in the capital market issue a great day. and we hope that the government, this man, the prime minister mohammed who saying mobley,
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has been in charge of the process is support to say he managed to make it happen again, stiff resistance level, who luckily, he's been at odds with the president mohammed abdullah. he for my j seeking another turn, didn't attend the swearing in ceremony pharmacy, his critics, and opponents say he's been stalling the process to try and stay in power by somalis didn't get to vote. chan representative selected m p 's and a series of closed door meetings. everyone involved says buying of folks is widespread. the new m p 's due to elect the next president in the coming weeks. for me, as i had promised to organize elections where families get the vote that he didn't fulfill his pledge. the whole process has been widely criticized in that selection that actually brought it to the bottom selection process. but lack of integrity, i'm could ability. so unless there is a strong strong rule of law and election law. so monday will be in this what we've
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seen for the past few months. and the last year is absolutely unacceptable and not to be repeated again. humfell, a seat in parliament, remain open after electoral official nullified the election processes over irregularities. mortars were fired towards mogadishu, greens and the other m. p 's repairing to before and in. inside the armed group out, bob is opposed to the government and said it would target the elections claimed responsibility for this attack in the city of better green last month. that killed an m p. and another parliamentary candidate as well as several other attacks. factions of the army for the police in mogadishu. last year, when yet another election delay was announced, and president for magic, tried to extend his term in office tamales and now waiting to find out who will be elected the next president. and if there will be more bloodshed before somalia has
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a new government, malcolm web out, his era. ah, all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in mogadishu, zayna pass and founder and executive director of the. so molly, gender equity movement, and i, robi, of yada enemy somali political scientists and executive director at the heritage institute for policy studies. and although stig yahoo hanson professor in international relations at the norwegian university of life sciences, a warm welcome to you all, thanks so much for joining us today on inside story xena. let me start with you today. how significant is it that somalia has now inaugurated these lawmakers? how big a breakthrough does this constitute? so my good excited about. 5 you know, gratian of the parliament, despite, you know, the, and i've taught our process along the long time, it took us well as all, you know,
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really caution gums that has been going on. at least it signifies that they can do this moving forward. so the parliament and now that it's that it's where and they can elect their leadership, meant that leadership and then, you know, elected the president. so that might go back to our working and moving forward. so yeah, it's very significant. it's the pillar of the malia, and it's actually very important that at least that we do have one in parliament because the mandate of the current federal government has in february 7, 21. so over a year, you know, it was taken and put in many things including the thought process. so it has to be quite a challenge. so it's really exciting that we see that parliament, that finally this is what and so thank you for the questions. and i want to thank
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you for the fact that these new lawmakers were inaugurated. does that indicate to you that the prolonged political turmoil and somalia may at last be coming to an end? i agree with no, actually this is betty court date and a big milestone that's from alice has a juice. what you can see now is that the responsibility shifted from the, the divided executive between the prime minister and the president, to a new parliament that can now still the country to a different direction. and i think this should be welcomed on a blog. that doesn't mean the process was good. it doesn't mean it came on time. but at least now we have the most important pillar with can, which can create other branches of the other other institutions. at least the
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residence to an event, you want to give the contents to a new prime minister. so what, what, what we would we have been logged in for a while while has arrived a bit late stig, um, from your vantage point, how will the swearing in of these new members of parliament affect the tensions that have been ongoing between the president and the prime minister, i think the tension will still be there. it will be there for us, quite a while it before you have the finalization of the selection of the new president. so there will be attention. there will be a lot of bargaining in the new parliament. now there will be money is shifting, shifting sides. it will be a lot of attempts to make alliances and to position the various candidates in relation to their new m p. 's. so there will be a lot of ongoing corridor politics, including actually the use of money and bribes xena. and there's
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a lot of pressure right now from the public on parliament for them to act quickly to elect a new president. is that something you for see happening in a relatively quick amount of time? i think coming closer good into history. so malia, what is the parliament is one in there to appoint and mainly the committee that will prepare the the election of the president. so i'm assuming we are hoping they know that the public is actually we did this for quite a long time that should have happened long ago. so i'm assuming that i think it will be really, it won't be in what have a lot of dragging in the political process because about the responsibility is on the parliament to deliver mainly to elect the president. so that's their job. there are only few sheets that you left and hopefully you don't the to get though.
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it's expensive. she didn't, which has been quite challenging. but now that i mean at least declaring that would be held in another other than a i think he did things to record smoothly and i think the men will elected the leadership 1st. i'm in the that they street the 2, the 2 houses in each house, and then you know, because it's, and then they will also and put together a committee that will elected the president. so i think, i mean, obviously we will see, i think less may mean the conflict even now between the, between the prime minister and then because now that it was it's out of hand and it's in the parliament. so now i think it's time for the candidates will start, i mean, mainly trying to get the parliamentarians vote. so now i'm in the attention shipped
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to the, to the problem. and in my opinion, thank you. i think i saw you are reacting to some was and i was saying there it looked like you wanted to jump in, so please go ahead. yes, i expect that rivalry to play out for the next week. there's going to be attempts to swap candidates in the direction of the various sides of the conflict and the of the opposition against a module. and in many ways it is the candidates that are in the focus. but there's going to be a lot of rivalry. the next week until the next president is actually the side open and we will see what happens off of that. but it's going to be an exciting time a what are some of the main priorities going to be for the new piece? i agree with both that the, the responsibility now shifted to the new parliament. so even if the prime minister and the president does not agree for, they have some issues. they cannot do much of this time with respect to the
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priorities. i think the number one is for the, the material as to the current ability under legitimacy that they one, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, to this country to, into a new direction because the process has not given that legitimacy that they need. so that is number one with the and i just talked this with selection or election of the leadership of the parliament and also the selection and election of, of the president. so this is the 1st statement that the parliament is making to the somali people onto the international community that shows how serious they are when it comes to, to the number one priority number 2. and they have to understand that there is no time left here. there are a number of pressures that is out in the country. that is, deadline is coming when it comes to the doctor. it is that it is institutional
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weakness that actually the bullet. eyes ation has spotted that made it a very fragile. so they have to act quickly so there is no time they don't have to take even one day off and they have to focus on undo the work. luckily the to lead that it's no, i'd rather not come at all. he uses god, they have shown some leadership by paris de appointing the election committee on the speakers. this is the betty. very good actually. so i think that our number of other legislative priorities that we will get into it these out of the key priorities for now for the next 2 weeks. then one of the things that you already just mentioned there when talking about priorities or these new m. p 's was a tackling drought. and i want to talk to you for a minute about the humanitarian situation. or rather, i should say the dire humanitarian situation there. an 8 agencies have said that more than 3500000 people in somalia need food aid. and that 1400000 children faced
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severe malnutrition. how much more dire could the humanitarian situation get if the government does not act to tackle all of this? unfortunately, i think, you know, it's in all the, even though you know, that has impacted the whole, you know, on of africa. it has hit the hardest. so molly and used to be because of, you know, lack of the strong situation that deal with it. coupled with the probably, you know, process the thought process that to get the attention of the meter, she got the focusing on when me new on the, on handling with the, with the drug before it became 5 minutes. so i think, you know, it's very that the parliament speed up the elected, you know, then leadership and as well as the president the president and selected a prime minister. and then the prime minister to select the cabinet minister. so we,
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we would have a function in government that deals with, with the drought. i've been currently, i think the, the only the somali people, that's what i unlock has been, you know, mainly support and, and trying to mitigate and help the people who have been impacted. but there hasn't been much in community support be in because the government is not actually the mandate expired. and all of these complex political conflicts going on with in. so that was very little come from from, you know, from the international community in terms of the leave and, and those, you know, taking it to, to the people in actually dire need. so i think, you know, it's, it's not how important it is that the electoral process ends and you know, that it's a new government that deals with, with, with all of these next time i think they, the better plan better because the, the, the routes and the the fraud has been going on for quite a while,
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so they need to have that. i did use to plan for the next one before it did start. and also, you know, that event, whatever foster to prevent it in terms of, you know, water, intense right, of wells in cat himself. out to deal with it. thank you, stig, this wearing in of these parliamentarians. this happened after months of international pressure being put on somalia to ensure that the elections were completed, that a new president will be chosen. what has happened thus far? does this give the international community confidence that the political crisis in somalia may be coming to an end? well law i am not sure. i, as i said, i think the polarization will continue until the new president is elected in the parliament. there is going to be accusations that is also going to betray them. i
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think actually that the role of the new cabinet will mainly be to kind of create some kind of stability rather than to aid the drawers. because i think they reply to the drop, it will be in national or by the private somal this sector. in many ways it's a weak institutions. we talk about here unfortunately. so it's a relatively no limited what they can do. but what they can do is to facilitate some kind of stability, but i do expect that we will see some rivalries annexation sir, still being traded between the various fractions in the parliament. the that is going to build up in the parliament in the new parliament or so my expectations to the new parliament is maybe not as large sir, as said, the older speakers. but i of course, or by moral. and we have to remember that the draught in somal at the day is set in a situation where you have a war in ukraine that has increased the serial prices and also grain prices quite
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drastically and nationally. so it's actually harder for the aide to reach somalia. there was also a lot of attention in them to all the wars a fury the, the new m p 's that have been sworn in up. are they up to the challenge of combating? i'll show bob. well, i mean, the m p 's are only lawmakers lomax is out and just they have few functions that actually related to, to, to, to securing to them creating the support environment in somalia. but the unfortunate part here is that the current empties were selected based on how they would vote in the night of the election of the president. nobody cared about or the other functions and the parliament has the better to function as it has oversight function. as legislative function is, i don't think they even added those, those few people who i talked the process and made the selection. if you care about
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all of these things, what happens next 4 years. so what we ended up with is new, empties about $62.00 to suggest a 3 percent out of new new and peace compared to return. nice. so you have about 30 plus percent of the parliament throughout just returning that is sort of shows that the experience needed is not there, but hope 40. they will, they will, they will hit the ground running with the help build the international community with the help of also the leadership, depending on the leadership that they select. so i would say when it comes to dealing with bob, it is the executive department of the government. the executive, i'm in oregon can either negotiate with the shop or they can. i mean, it's closer for the deal with them. but what the bottom and can do is just
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a bit about those laws that are needed. and i think also what, what they can do is grab this. and i mean at regulate and bring the to sion is of security within the rule of law. now we are military that have been or there's an air that has been politicized. if we have the intelligence agency that has been criticized it. so basically what the parliament can do is create an environment where the rule of law is supreme and that they can just lead the country through that. the most important think, i think that the parliament, which to keep in mind is oversight role. one is it loses that then the other number of states will kick in, and that's what happened. that's it, that's not a good thing for the country. so they have to maintain their independence in an
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integrity when it comes to the running of the country. and as an oversight institution, as a place where the liberation is and debate takes place, a place where a good legislation is automate. stig, how much has corruption impacted the electoral process in somalia and, and the elections as well. it's quite open, that money matters are locked in this process. it's quite easy to, to see. and that's why i'm a little bit more skeptic towards the new parliament's oversight functions that perhaps her my or colleague off yada is i do think that the somalian needs checks and balance. and i think federal states is a good, a way of having those checks and balances in addition to a parliament that during the last period didn't so that they were functioning as a check and balance. and it will take a long time before the parliament will function as a proper oversight or mechanism. you can argue that even in the small,
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the republic time before 969, the small, the parliament struggled with having these functions. so they need a lot of checks and balances. we need a lot of 6 unbalances in the somal. this is there are, there are potential 6 unbalances there is. so that can maintain some kind of shakes against the outer italian is shakes against corruption with it will be tight time to fight corruption in the parliament and it will take time to fight corruption in the somali public sector as well. xena at somalia has a quarter system now for female lawmakers, but women are still held back from pursuing these types of leadership roles. some of that is because of, of cultural and social barriers. how difficult does it remain for female lawmakers in somalia? this kind of process actually i can say it has been very difficult and
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very are both for woman. reason being you know, we know that it was a lot of, you know, violence involved. we know a female m p who are candidate was killed. others who had some, some would been somewhere. so literally, you know, in terms when we talk, we are talking about gender equity. it has gone down this, you know, count of elections or elections or whatever you 100 college. but we have 24 percent in the lower house. they go in and actually last parliament we can say now the last parliament, the 10 parliament now in the lower house load house or the house of the people we have, it has a gun down to 20 percent. and it could even get even lower than that. depending on the number one number of sheets that actually hasn't been elected yet. so the quote
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of the houses of men of the 2 for women meant to not be really implemented. at least the upper house gave me 2 percent or one because they have a smaller number of the house is smaller compared to the house of the people. but the house of the people women have actually suffered this time. and i think that as a significant impact on the delivery of, of you know, the parliament as well as the government in general. because when you have 50 percent of the population or one percent of the population, literally under and put into a difficult situation where, you know, mentioned, i mean the number of, you know, people from the school sector and all the people who have been kind of in the moment it does happen, in fact, impact a woman, because a lot of people are awarded out how this upcoming, you know, how this final meant is going to actually function. but i think it's very important
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that they understand. they have all our responsibilities because if they don't, then it's going to be a problem for for so molly and a new actual job challenges for the, for the candidate is. so yeah, i hope there was no, we'll work together. the woman in the parliament and in both houses and become to stronger and collaborate better to push gender equity men, especially since they have suffered in this eloped out process and they know that it could get actually worse. they need to work harder. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're gonna have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much to all of our guests in person. a few other it, me and stig, yahoo hanson, and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter.
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