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this to activities, but also to see a fine of an open pit. mine is very large, often not a product process. and in germany, the idea of thermal bryan's is very different. you don't need a large open bid for that. you can also use the energy that's come from, from the underground, basically to do that in a problem neutral manner. different ways of doing these. and i'm pretty sure that in europe we will take all these on its way back into account when we are fighting you and your projects. ah, your challenges there with me. so robin doe, ha, reminder of all top news stories. russia is being accused of once again talking residential areas and it strikes against ukraine. one person was killed in 1000, others injured when rockets hit the city of car cave. russian forces of also talked to the capital keith from where russell for the reports. a raid sirens sounding on there over the city frequently tonight. and there are some reports that
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the reports of the explosions. however, we cannot confirm about any strikes or explosions in, in, in, in key year. just early in the day in the morning today with there were russia attacked a tank, prepare repairing, factory north korea as successfully to find a new type of tactical guided weapon. neither can junglin says he's parrying for a country confrontation with the united states. 3 weeks ago, appealing, young testified, its biggest intercontinental ballistic missile police in the us state of south carolina, detained 3 people after shooting at a shopping center in the city of columbia. at least 10 people are being treated for gunshot wounds to them with a critical condition. please don't believe the attack out the color beyond the center mal was random. tell him the does it have got his son have 7 buckets on,
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on bassett, or after ledge strikes in its territory local media, at least 30 people were killed in the provinces of coast and tuna. i've got some blamed, focused on the forces, but it's not about denies those claims. it's molly, as newly elected parliament, is preparing to elect the president and was meant for the 1st time after being sworn on thursday and appointed a 10 person committee to lead the process. violent protests and street fighting between rival groups set back the election process since the last president term ended in february last year. for those stories on our website at al jazeera dot come about with more news in half an hour. the next time june is up. with inside story to stay with us. ah
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it took more than a year, but somalia finally has a new parliament impede are sworn in after a drawn out election. can they tackle the countries challenges and how will they deal with tensions between the prime minister and the president? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammer jim's room. it was an election where most people didn't get to vote, but one that the international community said was needed for stability in somalia. leaders from powerful clans, civil society organizations and regional officials picked more than $270.00 m. p 's for the new national parliament. they been sworn in more than
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a year behind schedule. there were disputes about a complex electoral process as well as tensions between the prime minister and president. parliament's 1st task is to choose a new speaker and president. it's all happening as the united nations warned somali as worst drought in dec, it could trigger another famine. malcolm web reports. it's taken more than a year and cost thousands of lives to get to hear the appointment of somali as new parliament. about 250 n p's and 50 senators have been sworn in in a ceremony in the capital market issue a great day. and we hope that. 1 i'm not going to govern this man. the prime minister mohammed hussein mobley has been in charge of the process is support to say, he managed to make it happen again, stiff resistance level, who luckily he's been at odds with the president mohammed abdullah. he saw my j
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seeking another term, didn't attend the swearing in ceremony pharmacy, his critics, and opponents say he's been stalling the process to try and stay in power by somalis didn't get to vote. chan representative selected m p 's and a series of closed door meetings. everyone in vote says buying a photo widespread. the new m p. 's is due to elect the next president in the coming weeks. for magic had promised to organize elections where molly's get to vote, that he didn't fulfill his pledge. the whole process has been widely criticized in that selection that actually brought it to the bottom selection process, that lack of integrity, i'm could ability. so unless there is a strong strong rule of law and election law. so monday will be in this what we've seen for the past few months. and the last year is absolutely unacceptable and not
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to be repeated again. humfell a seat in parliament remain open after electoral official nullified the election processes over irregularities. mortars were fired towards margaret issues, greens and the other m. p. 's repairing to before in inside the armed group out, bob is opposed to the government and said it would target the elections claimed responsibility for this attack in the city of bela green last month. that killed an m p. and another parliamentary candidate, as well as several other attacks. factions of the army fought the police in mogadishu. last year, when yet another election delay was announced. and president for magic, tried to extend his term in office tamales and now waiting to find out who will be elected the next president. and if there will be more bloodshed before somalia has a new government, malcolm web out his era. ah,
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all right, let's go ahead and bring in our guests in mogadishu, then a pattern founder and executive director of the so molly, gender equity movement, and i, robi, of yachting, enemy somali political scientists and executive director at the heritage institute for policy studies. and it will stick yahoo hanson professor and international relations at the norwegian university of life sciences. a warm welcome to you all. thanks so much for joining us today on inside story xena, let me start with you today. how significant is it that somalia has now inaugurated these lawmakers? how big a breakthrough does this constitute? so my good excited about. 5 you know, gratian of the parliament despite, you know, the, and i've taught our process along the long time, it took us well as all, you know, say, and really cautioning gums that been going on at least it signifies that the candidates moving forward. so the part of men kind of now that it's the obvious
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where and they can elect their leadership, meant that leadership and then you know, elected the president. so that might go back to our working and moving forward. so yeah, it's very significant. it's the pillar of somalia and it's actually very important that at least that we do have one in parliament because the mandate of the current federal government has in february 7, 21. so over a year, you know, it was to take a bit and put in many things including the thought process. so it has to be quite a challenge. so it's really exciting that we see that parliament. that's finally if this is what and so thank you for the questions and i want to thank you for the fact that these new lawmakers were inaugurated. does that indicate to you that the prolonged political turmoil and somalia may at last be coming to an end?
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i agree with no actually this is but it court date and a big milestone that some alice has a job. what you can see now is that the responsibility shifted from the divided executive between the prime minister and the president to a new parliament that can now still the country to a different direction. and i think it, this should be welcomed on, on a blog. that doesn't mean the process was good. it doesn't mean it came on time. but at least now we have the most important pillar with can, which can create other branches of the other other institutions, at least at the residence, and eventually give the competency to a new prime minister. so what, what, what we would we have been logged in for a quite a while. has arrived a bit late the stig, um, from your vantage point,
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how will the swearing in of these new members of parliament affect the tensions that have been ongoing? between the president and the prime minister? i think the tension will still be there. it will be there for us quite a while it before you have the finalization of the selection of the new president. so there will be attention, there will be a lot of bargaining in the new parliament. now there will be money is shifting, shifting sides, it will be a lot of attempts to make alliances and to position the various candidates in relation to their new m p. 's. so there will be a lot of ongoing corridor politics, including actually the use of money and bribes xena. and there's a lot of pressure right now from the public on parliament for them to act quickly to elect a new president. is that something you foresee happening in
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a relatively quick amount of time? i think coming press are good in the history. so malia, what is the parliament is one in there to appoint and mainly the committee that will prepare the ela thought of the election of the president. so i'm assuming we are hoping they know that the public is actually we did this for quite a long time. that should have happened long ago, so i'm assuming that and i think it will be really, it won't be in what have a lot of dragging in the political process because about the responsibility is on the parliament to deliver mainly to elect the president. so that's the job that are only a few sheets left and hopefully you don't the to get though. it's expensive. she didn't, which has been quite challenging. but now that feed, i mean,
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at least declaring that would be held in another other than godaddy. i think the things will go smoothly and i think the parliament will elected the leadership 1st . i'm in the service of the 2 of the 2 houses in each house. and then you know, because it's, and then they would also put it and put together a committee that will elected the president. so i think, i mean obviously we will see, i think less may mean the conflict even now between the, between the prime minister and the press then because now there is, was billed, it's out of that hand and it's in the parliament. so now i think it's time for the candidates. i will start, i mean, really trying to get the parliamentarians vote. so now i'm in the attention shifts to lead to the parliament. in my opinion, thank you, stig. i saw you reacting to some was anna was saying there it looked like you wanted to jump in, so please go ahead. yes,
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i expect that rivalry to play out for the next week. her there is going to be attempts to sway her candidates in the direction of, for the various sides of this conflict and the of the opposition. i am the era against pathfinder module, and in many ways it is the candidates that are in the focus. but there's going to be a lot of rivalry the next week until the next president is actually the side open. and we will see what happens after that. but it's going to be an exciting time furio. what are some of the main priority is going to be for the new in piece? i agree with both that the, the responsibility now shifted to the new parliament. so even if the prime minister and the president does not agree for, they have some issues. they cannot do much of this time with respect to the priorities. i think the number one is for the binder materials as to the current
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ability and the legitimacy that they one tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu? this that this country to then to a new that action because the process has not given that legitimacy that they needed. so that is number one with the and just talk this with selection or election of the leadership of the parliament and also the selection and election of, of the president. so this is the 1st statement that the parliament is making to the somali people onto the international community that shows how serious they are when it comes to, to the number one priority number 2. and they have to understand that there is no time left here. there are a number of pressures that is there out in the country. that is, deadline is coming when it comes to the doctor. it is that it is institutional weakness that actually the bullet isaiah and has spotted that a, made it a very fragile. so they have to act quickly so there is no time they don't have to
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take even one day off and they have to focus on on do the work. luckily the tools that it's now i'd rather not only use god, they have shown some leadership by fairness date, a point to get the election committee on the speakers. this is the very, very good actually. so i think that our number of other legislative that we will get into it these out of the key priorities for now for the next 2 weeks, is in one of the things that you already just mentioned there. when talking about priorities or these new m. p 's was the tackling drought and i want to talk to you for a minute about the humanitarian situation, or rather i should say the dire humanitarian situation. there an 8 agencies have said that more than 3500000 people in somalia need food aid, and that 1400000 children face severe malnutrition. how much more dire could the humanitarian situation get if the government does not act to tackle all of this?
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unfortunately, i think, you know, it's in all the, even though you know, that has impacted the whole, you know, on africa. it has hit the hardest. so molly and used to be in because of the lack of the strong situation that deal with it. coupled with the problem, you know, process the thought process that to get the attention of the leadership rather than focusing on on me, on the, on handling with the, with the drug before it became 5 minutes. so i think, you know, it's very important that the parliament speed up the elected, you know, the leadership as well as the president and the president and selected a prime minister under the prime minister to select the cabinet minister. so we, we would have a function in government that deal with, with the route i've been currently. i think the, the only the somali people would unlock house has been, you know,
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mainly support and, and trying to mitigate and help the people who have been impacted. but that hasn't been much in community support be and because the, the government is not actually the mandate expired. and all of these complex political conflicts going on within. so that was very little coming from from, you know, from the international community in terms of relief and, and those, you know, taking it to, to the people in actually dire need. so i think, you know, it's, it's not how important it is that the electoral process ends and you know, that it's a new government that deals with, with, with all of these next time i think they better plan better because the, the, the routes and the, the fraud has been going on for quite a while, so they need to have this, but i did use to plan for the next one before it did start. and also, you know,
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that event, whatever, to prevent it into himself, you know, a water intense right of wells in got himself out to deal with that. thank you, stig, this wearing in of these parliamentarians. this happened after months of international pressure are being put on somalia. to ensure that elections were completed, that a new president will be chosen. what has happened thus far? does this give the international community confidence that the political crisis in somalia may be coming to an end? well law, i am not sure. i, as i said, i think the polarization will continue until the new president is elected in the parliament. there is going to be accusations that is also going to betray that. i think actually that the role of the new cabinet will mainly be to kind of create some kind of stability rather than to aid the drawers. because i think they reply
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to the drop it will be in national or by the private somal. this sector in many ways, it's a week institutions we talk about aaron format they, so it's a relatively no limited what they can do, but what they can do is to facilitate some kind of stability. but i do expect that we will see some rivalries annexation sir, still being traded between the various fractions in the parliament. the that is going to build up in the parliament in the new parliament or so my expectations to the new parliament is maybe not as large sir as 3rd, the other speakers. but i of course will buy moral. and we have to remember that the draught in somalia today is set in a situation where you have a war in ukraine that has increased the serial prices and also grain price is quite drastically and nationally. so it's actually harder for their aid to reach somalia . there was also a lot of attention in them to all the wars a fury, the,
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the new m. p. 's that have been sworn in up. are they up to the challenge of combating? i'll show bob. well, i'm in the m p. 's are only lawmakers low met christ out and just they have few functions that actually related to, to, to, to securing to them creating the support environment in somalia. but the unfortunate part here is that the current empties were selected based on how they will vote in the night of the election of the president. nobody cares about or the other functions and the parliament has the better to function as it has oversight function. as legislative function is, i don't think they even added those, those few people who talked the process and made the selection and care about all of these things and what happens next 4 years. so what we ended up with is new, empties about 60 to 63 percent out of new new and peace compared to
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return. nice. so you have about 30 plus percent of the parliament to i'm just returning that it's sort to shows that the experience needed is not there, but hope 40. they will, they will, they will hit the ground running with the help build the international community with the help of also the leadership, depending on the leadership that they select. so i would say when it comes to dealing with bob, it is, the executive department of the government executive, i'm in oregon, can either negotiate with the shop or they can. i mean, it's closer for the deal with them. but what the bottom and can do is just a bit about those laws that are needed. and i think also what, what they can do is grab this and i mean regulate and
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bring the to sion is of security within the rule of law. now we are military that have been or there's an air that has been politicized. if we have the intelligence agency that has been criticized it. so basically what the parliament can do is create an environment where the rule of law is supreme and that they can just lead the country through that. the most important think, i think that the parliament, which to keep in mind is oversight role. one is it loses that then the other number of states will kick in, and that's what happened. that's it, that's not a good thing for the country. so they have to maintain their independence in an integrity when it comes to the running of the country. and as an oversight and institution as a place where the liberation is and debate takes place,
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a place where a good legislation is not a mate, stig, how much has corruption impacted the electoral process in somalia and, and the elections as well. it's quite open, that money matters are locked in this process. it's a quite easy to, to see. and that's why i'm a little bit more skeptic towards the new parliament's oversight functions that perhaps her my or colleague off yada is i do think that the somalian needs shake some balance and i think federal states is a good oh, way of having those checks and balances, in addition to a parliament that during the last period didn't so that they were functioning as a check and balance. and it will take a long time before this parliament will function as a proper oversight or mechanism. you can argue that even in the somali republic time, before 969, the somali parliament struggle with having these the functions. so they need
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a lot of checks and balances. we need a lot of 6 unbalances in the smallest. is there a, there are potential 6 unbalances there is so that can maintain some kind of shakes against the outer italian is shakes against corruption with it will be tight time to fight corruption in the parliament and it will take time to fight corruption. in the somali public sector, wrestler, xena at somalia has a quarter system now for female lawmakers, but women are still held back from pursuing these types of leadership roles. some of that is because of cultural and social barriers. how difficult does it remain for female lawmakers in somalia? this kind of process actually i can say it has been very difficult and very horrible for a woman. reason being, you know, we know that it was a lot of, you know, violence involved. we know a female
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n p who us or candidate was killed. others who added some, some would be in somewhere. so literally, you know, in terms when we talk, we are talking about gender equity. it has gone down this, this, you know, count of elections or, or elections or whatever you wouldn't college, but we had 24 percent in the lower house. i'll go in and actually last parliament, we can say now the last parliament, the 10 parliament. now in the lower house load house or the house of the people we have, it has gone down to 20 percent and it could even get even lower than that depending on the number one number of sheets that actually hasn't been elected yet. so the quote of the houses i've meant of the for the woman i've not been really implemented, at least the upper house gave me 2 percent or one because they,
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they have a smaller number. i'm in the house is smaller compared to the house of the people, but the house of the people, women have actually suffered this time. and i think that as a significant impact on the delivery of, you know, the parliament as well as the government in general. because when you have 50 percent of the population or one percent of the population at literally under comparison and put into a difficult situation where, you know, mentioned, i mean the number of, you know, people from the school sector and all the people who have been kind of in the moment it does happen, in fact impact a woman because a lot of people are awarded how, how upcoming, you know, how this vitamin is going to actually function. but i think it's very important that they understand they're all on responsibilities because if they don't,
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then it's going to be a problem for the for so molly and a new actual job challenges for the, for the can. that is so. yeah, i hope that will work together the allotment in the parliament and in both houses and become to stronger and collaborate better to push gender equity. i'm in especially city. they have suffered and i'm in this a laptop process and they know that it could get actually worse. they need to work harder. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're gonna have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much to all of our guests in a person. a few other in me and stig, yahoo hanson, and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at ha, inside story from him, how much i'm drilling and holding here. and uh huh. bye for now. ah
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