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re cctv footage of a young woman who had a very lucky escape. she was preparing to board a train when his eyes, when she fainted. as the train was still arriving and fell onto the track railway staff, amberly's officers managed to pull her out and take it a hospital, which later discharged her with no serious injuries. this happened at the end of march videos only now gone viral and it's extraordinary. ah, just a quick look at the main stories. now. her at least 7 people have died after russian missiles at the ukrainian city of la vive . they are the 1st civilian victims in the western city which had previously been considered relatively safe. 11 others have been injured elsewhere. several people
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have been killed in shelling in the eastern city of har. keep witnesses are saying the attacks targeted residential areas. russian defense ministry says it destroyed 16 ukrainian military facilities in, in the southern and eastern regions where the ukrainian presents chief of staff is saying that russia has started the next phase of the war and offensive to take control of the east. around a 1000 civilians are trapped in shelters under a steel works that surrounded now and the city of mary opal. and at least 4 people have died after russian forces seize the town of krajina. most cuz mayor is warned about 200000 people in the russian capital are risk of losing that jobs because foreign companies of either left or suspended operations. meanwhile, ushers president, let him push it. has told his economic officials that western sanctions a back firing mozilla will get in the solution. now we can confidently declare that such a policy is filed with respect to russia. the strategy of economic blitzkrieg proved unsuccessful sanctions. the hitting, the initiation is very hard. i mean,
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rising inflation, unemployment, and worsening of the economic dynamic in the united states and europe, declining living strategy for europeans and the valuation of this savings with at least one rocket, his or poor sleep, and fide towards southern israel from gazette. this video, which was uploaded by israeli media, appears to show a rocket being fight towards the town of kiss of him. the israeli military says it was shot down by the country's missile defense system. it follow don't raise carried out by israeli forces in the occupied by bank, which left several palestinians injured more than a dozen people were arrested in villages near janine and ramallah. well, those are the top stories of following the sal much more coming up a bit later on. i'll be back with another headline update at 20100 g m t and about half an hour time the stream is next. ok, how american interests on the mining the fight against climate change? ah
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aah. i as on the ok, thanks for watching the stream. one of the biggest news stories of our time is our global climate crises. and that is why out is here as part of a global correct. if of journalists call covering climate, now we bring you stories about time it all of the times, you can stay up to date. one of the biggest scandals in the climate emergency is the doc money that he's filtered in to climate action to either slow it down or stop it. it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it's actually fat and that is what we're delving into the day. us special
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interest versus climate action. we're going to be doing that with a guest. hello, miko rebecca. charlie. good. see all 3 of you, michael. welcome to the stream. please introduce yourself to a global audience. your thanks very much. i'm michael. man. i'm a professor at penn state university and the climate researcher and also author of the new climate war get to have hello. hello there, rebecca, welcome to the strain. welcome back to the strain. remind out audience. here you are what you day? hi, i'm rebecca lieber. i am a reporter on climate change. i'd box get to have you and charlie. hello, introduce yourself. try global audience. hello, my name's charlie cray. i am with greenpeace usa based in washington dc. get to having so you have made all of your panel if you on youtube right now, app comment section is life your comments? your thoughts can be right here. this conversation is part of the covering climate now and democracy series that were linking up
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u. s. special interests with democracy. what is the problem? what if you saying, let us know you're part of the show, mike, i'm going to start with you because your recent book, the new climate, was suggest that there is a battle going on. what is that war? yes, so you know, the old battle was this effort by fossil fuel interests and dark money groups. conservative foundations, conservative politicians and media outlets. this effort to deny that climate change is real, but people can see that it's real. people can see that it's happening now. and so that just isn't tenable anymore, that doesn't mean that the polluters in those promoting them have given up the battle. instead, they've turned to other tactics, delay, deflection, division even do mongering to convince us it's too late. that's what i call the new climate, or rebecca is reporting this. it sounds like a thriller. it sounds like
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a conspiracy theory, but we have seen this before in the tobacco industry and some of the same playbook tactics at being used in the fossil fuel industry to try and persuade the public that what they're saying is not what they're saying. rebecca, how do you, how you tell that story? exactly. this is a very similar playbook to what big tobacco use. but i think the most important thing about it is it keeps shifting just like michael said, this is no longer just a, a debate that climate and i are trying to have a weather climate change is real or not. there are now shifting that to more obstruction. and delayed tactics, and just like we saw with tobacco companies, oil companies are intent on delay in climate action as long as possible. charlie, this some work that the green piece journalism did, which is they track down and found an exxon mobil lobbyist. and i want to
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play a little clip of how he described his job, what he was doing. and then he, you talk about the damage that can be down by lobbyists in the fossil fuel industry . as having this in this have a look festival. did we aggressively fight against some of the science? oh yes. how did we hide our science? absolutely not. did we, did we join some of these shadow glimpse to work against some of the early efforts? yes, that's true. all. but there is nothing whose nothing illegal about that isn't what you know, we were looking out for our investments. we were looking out for our, our in our shareholders. that's
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exactly the playbook. a minor part of it. as dr. men described lobbyists are crawling all over washington d. c. there's probably $10000.00 registered corporate lobbyists and the fossil fuel industry and some of the other interests that to depend upon them politically. so to speak are, are some of the most powerful on the hill. ah, we hear it all the time from senator white house and some of the other senators and leaders who are trying to get climate related legislation through and getting blocked at every turn. and. and so, you know, though, it's not surprising and in fact, it's not just these companies themselves, they often operate through very powerful business trade associations like the us chamber of commerce. we wanted to share with our some of the places the money is coming from. i'm not sure this state whether it's doc money such as you can tell me
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when i show this to you, a garage may kiss. i want to do that in air quotes. does your process, charles, i don't want to trust with her as koch foundation. so those 2 are, you know, i really primarily connected to charles coke and a whole network of billionaires and sent to millionaires who use these foundations has kind of passed through to find a whole slew of non profits. other trust limited liability corporations and the money cascades down to a whole network. and what ends up happening is the ultimate recipient. you don't know where they're all to source of funding is and that's why we call them dark money green because these, these entities don't really report their ultimate source of money. so donors trust you don't know who their real funders are. they report who they give money to, but you don't know who gave them the money to give that that's a good trust organ. i didn't really good point. wow. and so as back without us.
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okay. yeah, i get that. let me just look then i'm michael. please help me here. whoops, receiving this money. so we don't know, nessie, the source of the money comes from certain organizations and then goes to these sp specific grapes, some of them, some of the big ones, tell us about some of these so that you understand the way the money filters free, the system. sure, so you know, these are some of the usual suspects when it comes to climate change. denial ism, the heritage foundation, e. i, the merc kato center federalist society. these are essentially laundering outfits. and so the dark money comes in, presumably from folks like the coke brothers from exxon mobil and fossil fuel companies. it gets laundered through dark money to these organizations that serve as mouth pieces for promoting industry friendly propaganda, climate change, denial, propaganda. so rebecca, we have an indian, i to say a newish administration,
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who said part of the mandate was to address climate action to address the climate emergency. how is that going? as us special interest disappeared because you have an administration that is saying that it's committed to climate change of plan action. yeah, this is doc money in auction basically because we have a bill that it represents most historic level of spending. we could have in this country on climate change in over a decade. that's built back better, but that bill has not passed the senate and not is largely because of a single sen. joe mansion of west virginia. 9 now going back to that video that you showed earlier that some obvious, i believe it was in that same video where exxon was also brought me about access to jo mansion and in, in helping block this bill. so we still have not had this legislation passed into
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law, and you can trace that back to the money that's been spent to delay this legislation. shape the public messaging so that it doesn't pass and also pressure. lawmakers like joe manchin into not voting in favor for this. so i'm really glad you mentioned joe. mentioned because i was 2nd to say, so go ahead. yeah, i was gonna add, you know we, we can let the republican party have a pass here. i mean, mike lofgren, who was a 30 year staffer for a senator from ohio, wrote a book called the parties over pub, came out before trump, and essentially described the republican party as in india illogical cult. and what he means by that is that, you know, they don't take a stand on issues, they don't evaluate the facts. what they do is they've, they're like
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a tribal heard, that follows the logical agenda. and so what happens is you can always count and then to vote against climate legislation. and so you have to get every single democrat lined up. and when it's a thin margin, someone like joe mansion steps and becomes incredibly pivotal. and credibly obstructive. i'm going to share something with, without wanting to just my but my clean looks like you've got something on your mind. go ahead, articulate it before i share this with our dance. sure, sure thing. i, you know, i, i agree with everything they're both rebec and charlie said here in what's remarkable that we've normalized the republican party, we take it as a given that they are going to oppose any efforts to do anything meaningful to address the climate crisis. it's sort of remarkable that it now falls on every single democrat, and indeed, if just 2 of them, not just joe mentioned, but kristen cinema in this case, wish to block the climate agenda. they're able to do so right now because of this republican obstruction. i am going to share something that i found on rebecca's
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timeline on twitter and also charlie's timeline on twitter. it was the co barum blockade sleeping, talking about the stark money in the climate emergency climate action disrupting it . but there is a way and there are ways that citizens can say, hang on a minute, we need to organize. so you can talk about joe mansion. he's a very well known thick in the democratic party. but he also is in west virginia that has a lot of coal mines and there's a lot of special interest to make sure those coal mines stay producing co. that's the set out. now have a look at the push back. oh sure. he does not care about his future as a millionaire, and as in all regard, oh, with
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a coal mine. with no alternative you seem to reason only how a dying and a dirty clothes with their entire community. oh, you should be seeing because you are blood on your hands. said charlie, here i am thinking about what you and rebecca michael had been describing, which since the full sense of dollar money. okay. i'm going to say proposing to belt is what was it a thought money that a really derailing what is possible in climate action. but then we see a campaign like the cold, barren blockade. how effective can that be? what is the all the t dot money in climate crisis? well, well, we've seen,
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i'm in the course of history in this country anyway. it's that organized people can beat organized money. and that's, that's exactly what starting to happen here. it's what we share with the sunrise movement, many, many other groups. i'm also going to bring in my cook as michael part of your book is not just explaining what the ways, but also how the battle can be won. help us with that. explain. yeah, no, i agree with what charlie just said with collective action is extremely important. here we have a voice today in the age of social media. we have these amazing platforms before speaking out and organizing, and look the forces of darkness. and i'll call them that the forces of inaction. i called them the inactive as in the book, the polluters and those doing their bidding are very organized and they have tried to hijack social media as a cause for the promotion of misinformation. in disinformation,
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we've got to take that back, we've got to use our voice. we've got to speak out in every way possible to hold those policymakers accountable. and i'd like to just point to some other examples of the way people can take part. i think doing things that support healthy democracy are certainly one step to fighting dark money and politics. of course, i think ever it's familiar with voting with, with expressing or free speech, but also there are a lot of different ways you see climate action come through. it's not just happening at a federal level in congress. you can take part in your local community to push for climate progress. and one campaign that we've seen really replicate and proliferate around the country is fighting for clean electricity to power buildings. and that's something people can, can fight for at the more local level. and i think is
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a great example of ways people can take more ownership in the climate crisis. i guess i have ads, and he's on youtube right now, watching this discussion. and adam says, what changes can the us make to limit or prevent corporate lobbying in support of oil and gas tally? was it said that with 10 hours and low yes, registered lobby of that you have on registered lawyers, p r firms. i'm a whole suite of consultants. i mean it's, it's, you know, as you of corporate influence in washington dc. and it's kind of a frankenstein monster that deregulating campaign finance. as well as, you know, the growth of think tanks and other frank groups that corporations find. so it's, it's quite, it's quite a jog or not, you know, for instance, dark money itself, which is political spending on campaigns. i think the statistic that i read recently is that there was about $5000000.00 spent back in 2006
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through dark money groups on that cycle of elections in the latest 2020 cycle, always up to $1000000000.00. we taught the, the woman in the blockade video, mentioned oligarchy. and she's absolutely right. well, we have people talk about oligarchy, from russia and other countries. what we have are $700.00 plus billionaires in the united states. many of them are fossil fuel, billionaires multi billionaires, like charles coke. and when you think about it, these are people who like, you know, al guards who hide their money off shore through secret accounts and various structures. these guys are hiding their money through channels to influence politics and policy. and essentially they too are clipped kratz. but in this case, what they're stealing is democracy and our chance of a livable future. the thought of you saying that this is so big,
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it's too difficult to tackle. no, we have, you know, this is why they oppose the freedom to vote act which i was a very strong bill. pro. it's been called the strongest civil rights bill in 50 years. ah, it again, jo mansion wasn't an obstacle to it, but that bill isn't amalgamation of some of the greatest policies we can enact, including public financing of elections, which is already the case in about 14 states in over 20 cities or towns have public financing election. we know what the solutions are, you know, better registration. you know, the kinds of things that we have seen pioneered in states across the country. so it can be done again. it, it's a matter of political will. yeah, i'm just looking at it yesterday. yes. rebecca then michael. oh, just to play, charlie says i think the supporting initiatives that support healthy functioning
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democracy is really crucial. i. i think just to connect the dots, why democratic initiatives are so important here. majority. 5 of the public in the u. s. certainly supports climate action the what we see repeatedly for decades now is it's a minority of concentrated special interest where the wealth is that are fighting to block these, these kinds of flaws. so if we have a better representation in the system that we have better access to building, that means we have, we have a better shot at climate action, michael. yeah, what rebecca just said is, is right on point. you know, look, we have a situation right now. we have a system with the filibuster, where a minority of politicians and reflecting a very small minority of the american people can prevent any action on any of the
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items that we've talked about. and in particular, legislation to rein in dark money. sen, sheldon white house, who's been a real leader democrat from rhode island has been a real leader here. you know, has produced no legislation but it needs now 60 votes, past the senate. and so to do anything about, you know, dark money, we now need 60 democratic votes or 50 democrats who are willing to find workarounds to deal with the filibuster problem. and right now those to hold out that we talked about joe mansion and kristen cinema have been obstacles to changing the filibuster rules so that again, that small minority cannot prevent action on any of these items that we're talking about. so once again, the solution is collective action. it's people turning out to vote in every election, not just the presidential elections or the mid term elections, but the off term elections. so that we get the representation necessary to move
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these sorts of bills forward. and, you know, take back our, our, our system from polluters and moneyed interests. you know, fanny, i wanted to point out because your audience is international. and we've been talking about, you know, united states government. but it struck me back when the paris record was being negotiated. that when john kerry was taking it there, they had to turn it into an agreement and not a treaty. and why is that? because he knew he couldn't bring it back to the united states where the republican controlled senate and get it ratified as a treaty. so that's why, you know, when we talk a lot about the u. s. congress as an institution, that really is obstruction, global action on climate change. we really mean it. i want to pick up on that thought because he got john pool has a he, we spoke to, he's a climate and environmental justice advocate. he's based in india and he looks to united states as being an example, a model for walk,
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climate action can achieve. and to date, it hasn't been a very good model here. yes. in the middle off, a long delay in a climate action, even the slightest possible actions are considered us a turning point in the fight against act. lemme crisis. this action springs, hopes to people who are impacted by climate rights is in the everyday life, especially those for mobile mobile regents. this is where low being comes as a surprise strike in delaying our hampering the progress in immediate climate actions, which tend to ensure our glamour justice. when such a law being a comes from our so called global leader, the title of polluter suits the most man being a leader. so mike, i'm just thinking about how many us administration has said that we are committed to climate action and fail to deliver. then there was the one trump administration
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that said we are not and we are not delivering and they will weigh more successful than in the administration said yes, we do believe in climate change, and we do believe we need to actually take action thoughts. michael, what i mean during the trip years we saw states and localities step up in the absence of any leadership. donald trump, literally became the only head of state to threaten and indeed follow through and pulling out of the paris agreement. so that was a huge setback. the previous administration, the obama administration had sought seen some real success as a bilateral agreement with china. that led to the paras agreement and led to some actionable commitments from the major polluters of the world to, to really do something. and then there was the setback when the united states refuses to lead, as we saw during the trump administration than other countries like india and china . you know, they eas up in, in their efforts as well. and so american leadership is essential. we're seeing
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that under the obama administration. the problem right now, of course, is obstruction by congressional republicans and a very small number of democrats who have enabled their efforts to block the bite and administration's agenda on climate. and so once again, it comes down to turning out in elections and electing politicians who will act on our behalf rather than on the behalf of polluters. one other point i'd like to make, we've talked a lot about the united states, but there are some other petro states, russia in particular, which is, you know, built it's wealth and its influence off our reliance on their fossil fuels and europe, reliance on their fossil fuels and they're now using that as a cudgel to prevent any sanctions from be being taken against them over their actions in ukraine. so this is really a reminder the that we've propped up these petra states like saudi arabia and russia is reminder of one of the other real costs of our continued dependence and
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fossil fuels and why it's so important for us to get our fossil fuels. one more thought here from, from you cheve, and i'm going to ask you to do this very quickly for me. charlie fargo says this conversation is not that simple. all companies are energy companies and they're using oil profits today to fund renewable energy projects for our future. i have heard that so many times, charlie, your instant response back is what it's pennies on the dollar. i mean, it's true that some of the companies invest in, ah, let's say coke industries. the largest private oil and gas company in the united states is investing a little bit in batteries because they know that the market for oil and gas is going away and transportation, and they better hedge their bet. all right, cali and back of michael. thank you for resting with his complex subject on the stream. we really appreciate you. let's have a look here, my laptop. this program was part of the covering climate now series. you can follow
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