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manual micro, i'm marine the pen. i hit the head for the french presidency, but with the far right lead to the parent having stuff into the image and going to content with macro and the cost of living crisis as play. how will from face follow the french election on algebra? the when the cobra pandemic, again, the need to minimize face to face contact drove many of the world judicial systems on line know in the name of cost, speed and greater efficiency. some of them want to stay there. but critics say that holding trials in cyberspace can deny defendants the right to a fair hearing and remove safeguards against abuse. so who's right? we asked reporters sarasota to investigate. ah
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ah, the physical confines to the courtroom. a place at saint enmity, decorum and authority. that is the cleavage. panic sent the globe into lockdown, cools, praise that doth state little thorough chase around the world, turned to new ways to keep legal wheels spinning. they went online. the principal argument is going to be that it saves time and it saves money. no one rhina is the chief executive of the n g, a fair trial international. at some point,
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you have to be willing to say that justice is more important than expediency. the greatest power government should wield short of warfare is the hour to prosecute. to imprison in some places to put to death. the function of a criminal defense lawyer is to stand between the individual and that awesome use of power. and in order to do that effectively, you have to be in personal contact with your client. ah la, we'll see that his available my much because might this noted cushions out across the globe judiciary is we're quick to see the potential i'm the judge. and so with a software companies, digital justice with virtual court hearings from microsoft and help governments deliver justice at scale. inevitably, this new virtual world was not without its changing his settings. i think this is a setting on your i ipad. so your i ipad probably set to stay in portrait. now let
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me go into my settings. is that what i need to do or just dina's modeling it for you if you can see him? oh, come on, cathy can do this. it's okay, we're all new to this and occasionally when the wrong button was pressed, we'll judicial hearing descended into outright pause mister port and i believe you have a filter turned on in the video setting, nelson. i don't know how to remove it. i brought my assistant her. she's trying to book all. i'm prepared to know forward with it. i'm us. i'm here law. it's not. i'm not a chair. put a punch in technical, he comes this brave new virtual world, lucy pennies, a serious legal questions. can you hear me judge? i can hear you, i this official quote, video has an important notice in the corner, but that didn't stop it being shown around the world. the problem, ah, with the remote viewing of
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a trial is that people tend to just see snippets or what, what somebody else decides is work, seeing there is no on alternative. if you want true justice from being there from start to finish. the right and duty of the public se trust is being done is considered a fundamental principle of mace jurisdictions. bit critic say that becomes hugely problematic when the process is remote and factual representation of an individual to a sentencing authority has to be a human engage. if that person, is it a remote location in the custody and control, or the jailer, or a police, a police officer, you're not going to see. you're not going to hear. you're not going to learn the real facts. that's where the concerns about torture come into play and there's no substitute for having a person stood sick. we pressed our inquiry as took us across the globe to examine claims that state abuse,
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state torture has been going on seen when hearings went online. and that these failures in remote justice have been happening in some countries where police brutality is endemic. and where the judiciary is the last shield against human rights abuses, ah, the city of south palo in brazil, in this huge nation, beset by criminality, drug related violence, and with vast disparities of wealth, one in 5 people in custody have reported police brutality after being arrested but until 2015, those people were held in pre trial detention sometimes by the very will for it is who had perpetrated that appeals with no access to a court hearing where they could complain about their ill treatment.
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7 years ago that began to change at the headquarters if they saw polo law firm. marina diaz told us about special custody hearings where defendants who brought face to face in front of a judge within a day of their arrest. i feathers, mri, kinsey. but as you know, she l jane surgical storage like appetizing cassandra praising pinch. what resolution reason there? ah, appetizing casselberry is la force up the zoe flag around chelly stay mommy. cheaper. think for those more cheese? the medical care, more man pinky up is so apology. he le bows, ruiz implies to close leisure lane, so also to the bill of quality. opposite the introduction of new face to face custody hearings was widely welcomed and trumpeted on this official justice department video. there was these face to face hearings with the opportunity for a judge to assess whether someone had suffered abuse at the hands of state or
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thorough it is. but they also allowed defendant to speak directly to a judge about their treatment when they were arrested. and even described their abuse. the effect was significant figures revealed that between 20152019 after in person custody herrings were introduced complaints of police ill treatment more than doubled. but then cove, it struck and face to face herrings suspended in both scenarios, brazil, social unrest, and state repression continued. these arrests occurred in sao paolo the month before we arrived. but as the state pushed the custody hearings to go online, the concern that people arrested across brazil now had limited opportunities to complain about their treatment lawyers and human rights
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activists. that violence and abuse of prisoners was once again going unchallenged. and the defendants were repairing online from prisons and police stations. where of camera, they were open to intimidation and coercion, me the way all of you are key. ah, james, up it is in. so if i store that fittings and if it is for me to live gleneagles that are so key a quote to suffice. good for me to assist on what it is. oh yes, you shall think want to soil synchronous even. even if he garcia, le barger looked it up as a sad yagi kiss. deja crashing dwaa ala eh, e, includes, even that feeding dulness work. so the women ah, in lute areas of states like panam, butare, ne, brazil monitoring what was happening. became even more difficult. international protocols are clear, hearings should be in a neutral, impartial environment. loya maria clara davila told us of a different reality. the long egypt even delegates,
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mild jessica bohemian delegates, the new style, dependable. if what we'll see though, that if you are right as a legacy dyed z, alcohol witness moment thou james. apis wish i was or not that age. she june, a always end up lucy view. a i've yet a mean will is sizing for that. are like, it should be back in a chassis. elyssa had, should i don't, my a po one go now with the brazilian national justice council is responsible for setting regulations on the functioning of the judiciary. one of those requirements is that online herring's should include the use of a $360.00 degree camera. the shown entire room and who's in it. but one club aldo batista, a public defender in pelham bouquet, conducted
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a survey of local police stations. he made a disturbing discovery. if a girl mister bay, you name barella garcia's will bring yours, it is evils bow that i mean or so before, sir? no, sir, no, just the receiver. he opened his are so welcome, miracle has all sold. it was, it says the garage when we off to spokesperson for the national council. why so many police stations did not have such cameras. they explained it is the responsibility of each court to ensure compliance with these rules. but technically sees we're not just limited to the use of cameras, ill pay weiss that is said if they box it by rob, yes. or the co star didn't implementer more me a budget in all the absolute. i mean, now the book you pushed on the other stuff i left off and there's another consent arising from the exclusive expansion of the actual justice. is there an adequately secure, reliable, and properly maintained judicial internet?
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that's not what batista found in kind of because a movie does all kinds your is the noise form start? erm was these are not veronica, yell diesel because started off with elysa. ah. voting been made to do suddenly la nicole elton is us. so what, but it was so lot brought brought out g b. felicia lakila de la garcia in south carolina at this public defender's office. we met lawyer t all go to luna cooey leads inspections in prisons. he told us about online hearings. there are solid though. jane searches this thing, think of those, but his voice we does when he does not go, i don't think woke up it of us dodge rental inch adjusted the bottle concert lost joyce in cube resort of allah was indulging so gone to joan roy dudgin with his own eyes. oh la adela. no. nora, but it's when i come into my sick of all the girl. oh,
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vin go daub. naveen go to kill goose colleague who really uses attended an online hair in last year or press up as i'm competing. so online it ended up at a young galaxy. so for the last sad, you know, lane says loading shows up his m a leaking at the dawn, the whole bar, the pillars put a sagging. todd is michelle esl film up there, so her spare. mesmer soap is forced in africa. mesa a domains, kelley pet, there, cuz he's had a parent to pick a shannon. they all jane to solicit bab episode b as applica ramos that assy was locked eyes on g. a regular science. a photo had designed as eddie placebo. pillar technology at the most, that usually is so poor because you'll take care you may sound. so been asked the boy, so you've got e and more so now the calipers operators are now killing more me a new chemise in diego,
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potter chinney to you. i was based in sao paolo don't often get to that court offices these days because of concrete today, they're watching from pre news apartment. and so you were a there just like in the workplace, so you could show you some record. yeah, sure. yeah, brianna, he told me about a hearing he dealt with the day before. what's going on here? turned in his hearing from his cellphone, couldn't. and that was not good. oh no. the prosecutor, the defendant and myself and added the judge is not here. normally the judge would be who would be here as well. but i also had a problem with his goodman and the camera was not working. the defendant, who was in prison, had been waiting for a decision on his case for 9 months. at the end of this hearing, he was sentenced to 6. he hasn't 8 months in jail. by an invisible judge. he was convicted. i could judge that we can't see by the judge that we can see. bruno
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caught diego is a defense lawyer in initial custody hearings. he told us the importance of face to face contact with defendants was underlined when he was briefly able to see them in his court office. he took face at the abuse. people say they'd suffered and they'd been arrested. what did he say toys? if that was what mos warranty was, is what he said, no apple mobile as you to balloons. are he so markers really like obviously it, folic apple is a bizarre. let's look a basic them is lucky for him called duck wrinkled up whole show. if it will, but ask you about the bill of police. ah, it's for a live out of that was be thou act universe, false not be a separate, this is a good you do. diego described when particularly horrific incident is always based . what is happening doing the same day? so any follicular quicker? drought for super drug was honest, no sucking suck button hobbies. ah, let me ask the g as a joe. what he said should old garbage masula political back to the one of the
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people i massa phone said an uncle bus on suitable barson city for a group of human rights activists. deeply alarmed by reports of police brutality across brazil and the failure of online hearings to address it, produced a video called torture cannot be seen on tv. to mothers involved in the campaign explained how it began. at last he did do it. he snaked it, though it is. davila says the date is name saudi ah scarves man. if they saw us, he is stone us bid. if he is, nana said on a spit, if it is a known to read it even 1st read the com. wow. so ma'am, so mainly tracy, just name. so ne m. mercy, the sony little speedy. fair to can a model? no. my he, she on bayfield lane, tanica, supple painburne on d. a specialist. bob is somehow room near the valencia. murphy,
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missouri really quick. so as the other one got the resumes name, a log for creamy rapids will be dead as the dog a footprint. and if you do so, does the other 1 march in town ponder, will see the photograph a bang or missing t up beyond my doomed my macon boarded up. they'll say, look resolver quantum a be. so i have a sick with thread that we start to sequester iraq, and he says his boss was if you're lanes. yeah, l i saw him with a still to this. he does is didn't want to have as was familiar, is to keep it is the mother demeanor, the pin this your idea is the upper yandell. she's in missouri to 6 inches. i'm not been she either. i know of your orders, some po, looked orangey bills up, all your benefits. you don't mind if i get one of those in the statement to people in power. brazil national council of justice told us virtual hearings held because
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of cov, it were conducted in accordance with rules which guarantee the rights of the arrested person and that some face to face herrings were being gradually re introduced. but critics fear that virtual hearings justified by cov, it will become permanent, as inside be kathy gas, the key for faith. that vehicle is a 100, is a common tall the coverage got into a quarter 1000000 residential inventor rush here, sound g, hippos? nah, smiled his sail man, because the sufficing vis you mango was a visor. it though, ash my are his say, well, quantile g, so ripen money, say, but in the capital of mexico, a country where according to $1.00 estimate, as many as 80 percent of hearings have been held virtually during the pandemic outside the headquarters at the public defense team lawyers in hazmat suit,
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dispense legal advice, and old fashioned way, face to face and inside lawyers, elevator hernandez and jessica he guerra a setting about their morning's work and dealing with an online system that frequently fails them. elvia multi tasks and she is put on hold, trying to track down a defendant. meanwhile, jessica gets the wife i sorted a common delicate problem on my end. it was a deficiency in the castle, is going to call up where you could do it up, or can you come into the money killing deadman for a long while not to him, but at the new connection, he connection is 30 in particular one on the needle a castles on the temple or 5 just in the kitchen is going and internet thing going up with him because he went on in and go yet and
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what was the and she has on there was supposed presented we catch up with the following day this morning. and online hearing involve 7 imprison defendants, each with red lawyer plus 3 witnesses. and it doesn't help that nobody seems to have the right link. they wouldn't when at wendy list cooper. today we're going to go back and listen, show them in, in. if you do like it didn't go now, but i would say order in. no, no, they don't threaten in electric in us monday. we're not allowed to record this natural hearing, which in the circumstances becomes academic witnesses don't show louis can't connect. the entire process grinds to holt and the hearings pe spammed. but despite the technical problems, leila maris the director here does see potential advantages to online justice. cookie in bicycle mom, he can always can that ali saddle up at 130 or let us west valley. see seafront,
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you know? well, my husband that has glass is going to know the interior of the well. the boy is concierge, than my quarterly. must fussy monona will mel dmca but it say schools girls be seen those in dublin, vice making was and normally and thumbs is a big metal. was a yes. and a little bit of blaming the scene that had given me at the espresso, miscast and bullet buys, is, is when i can, i know portable mina a so said yet b m was the last with that has, must glad us giving you he bisman that has a was it was lucky is im go more the woman that he go more because while he sat a gas was it would have beautiful, honestly, olivas from and eating justice angio. they're all some hearings that should only be carried out in person. lemme yet less holy and says in, but they have been, eileen, may he go and fellow chant ireland, the 14th to san san, though the ins has be glad to establish see those emperor the carlos ceiling. am
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info. so would i get the pavilions here? see there and said with well, is it get the boy of the he has absolute them and then know they said we have bodies than him was glad. ok. the answer is comalla the answer contra live than yawn or williams? yes. unless get here, see this or a laliverds that the last person as know, they haven't said these doilies and during our enquiries here, we heard about another seemingly key component of the justice system, the significance of human contact. all people seem differently when justice is behind screens, numbers, so now then through the whole process, so i blend door, but for an up at a foreigner, get one, but the nameless al yankee stab landlocked as him knocking and doses, which of us boy said the glendon best ego, he placed dalinda, now all her yet quaintness. i went to the s a book and noticed i be in the las office when the when was the last person i said the focus is me to my seat that i had e open and look at amos a look at his homeless. don't the steel to which hearings should be online and
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which face to face? we met up with judge martino, trailer deals with juveniles, youngster, as you can enter the criminal justice system from the age of 12, with potentially dramatic consequences for the rest of their lives. they job refusal law audience. yeah, we've got our crime scene embargo e electric, tci who needed a seabrook on which a border can the can be in the mass and cold give locally convening mass easy la can be in, in mass hobbes. this is certainly near look going for that of mass is less, but that's a village. that is, you get. i got a decent dole of it took dental or listened to the school mother who is most complicated, but i'm a federal level dentalgenius for good. i was just the name of berlin mother going to be that i was it's i, you know, look dora sevalla, my fiancee,
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i love the all. the good old dinners, crit, bussey, and c, m, we just berlin. but as for duty, the future you think it's the future as of who do it's like a digital cold. so now operational in one way or another across 5 continents. and despite the questions raised yoke him, it's for, and that justice or claire, it could reduce court backlogs, improve efficiency, increase access to justice, who can brazil, unable to pat, nope, of millions of cases. and what people languishing in pre trial detention for years . surely one view would be that online hearings are away out of that mess to get rid of this back to get people in front of court in some way. my answer to that is, what are they charged with? do they need to be in prison? or we over, are they overly using pre trial detention? let's not use the availability of technology to perpetuate
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a broken system. um, we shouldn't be using the criminal law as indiscriminately as we do, but we use it instead for all kinds of offences. and people don't need to be in prison for those things. and that's really what cobit has done. it has exposed the pre existing problems in our, in our criminal legal systems. ah, not only you in a way that they've not been exposed before, but has actually made them quite a bit worse. and the danger that we faced now is that these, that remote proceedings which may have been arguably essential for a limited period of time. and for limited purposes during coven will be regularized . and that might yet be the big question in the controversy about remote justice. a fundamental is seen not about how we conduct our trials, but why we truly to conduct so many in the 1st place. angle that the jury is
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