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about preserving the life and health of our soldiers and offices, there's no need to climb into these catacombs and call underground through these industrial facilities block off this industrial area. so that not even a fly comes to spanish prime minister petro sanchez, and the danish prime minister met frederickson are the latest european leaders to visit tv. they're expected to hold talks of ukraine's president of all of them are zalinski. russia says it's successfully tested or new intercontinental ballistic missiles. president putin says each missile can carry up to 12 nuclear warheads and can hit any target on earth. is really forces her fired rubber, bullets and pepper spray injuring 21. tyler simeon detail almost compound. it's been a week of height and tension at the site and occupied to east jerusalem incursion by jewish ultra nationalist roof for the reasons unrest. the 2 contenders for the french presidency have sparred in
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russia has begun of renewed offensive and in many a calling it to basle for dom boss. what does this new phase mean for the law to conflict? and what is the human goals? this is inside story. ah. hello, welcome to the program on kim vanelle. it's been nearly 2 months since russian forces invaded neighboring ukraine. the conflict has killed countless civilians and displaced millions. now moscow says it's shifting its focus to the east where it's
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increased its assault and the don boss region. the u. s. british and canadian babies have promised to spend more weapons to ukrainian forces. many say this is a crucial stage of the conflict and could lead to the breakup of ukraine. get my guests in just a moment, the 1st this update from us and make. so i said, and what russia refuses to call a war, has now entered its 2nd phase, and its being dubbed the battle for don bass. assert operation in the east of ukraine is a n, as was announced from the very beginning to fully liberate the dan yost gun logan's republics. and this operation. oh will, we will continue with this beginning. i mean, another stage of this or duration is beginning, and then sure this will be a very important moment on this entire special of the rich ukrainians caught up in the fighting are forced to flee as russian forces pummelled cities and towns
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ukraine's president says russia will not be successful in then seni vol. when you are a, he's good. he's the intensity of fire by russian troops in the hockey direction, in the dumbass and in the neat pro petrosky region has increased significantly yesterday the same as before. they consider ordinary residential housing to be normal military targets. in this war, the russian army will forever inscribe itself in world history, as perhaps the most barbaric and inhumane army in the world. ukraine says its repelled a number of russian attacks in the east. a 2nd ultimatum issued by russia for ukrainian soldiers in marrow, paul to surrender has passed. moscow had said the lives of the soldiers inside to steal works would be sped if they see what it called. senseless resistance, said owner survey. birth control is up on most around the united states and western countries and doing everything to drag out a special emitted operation as much as possible as the grim supplies of foreign
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weapons. clearly signal the intention to provoke the key regime to keep fighting until the last ukrainian, the european union is considered more sanctions and russia. recall on russia, we continue to call in russia to stop all the illegal analogy to mentor actions connected groups, aggression against ukraine. and when it comes to next around of the sanctions, i think the you highest representatives, the leaders of the you and also the representatives of the member states. they're very clear that we continue to work on further sanctions. and when the time will be right, they will be announced so far calls for a cease fire or the threat of sanctions have not stopped this war. and although russia may have failed to take, keep the battle for the east is one. russia cannot be seen to loose. i said big al jazeera. ah, my, let's bring in our guest and key of we have helena, your chain co, a member of the ukrainian parliaments,
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and secretary of the national presidential council. moscow. pavel falcon, how're defense and military analyst for in a via gazette, her an independent newspaper and in brussels, theresa fallon, director of the center for russia, europe, asia studies. thank you very much for joining us here on inside story. i'd like to start with you. our puzzle, falcon, how or if i may as the military analyst? what is this new stage in the war? what does it mean more to change your van for, sir, said so. russia try and in the beginning of this campaign to a kind of advance at the same time on the number of different, separate directions. it didn't work out very well. so now the of russia's reserves and forces which are clearly not adequate for such a job of moving in all directions will be concentrating in of the
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particular area of the east south ukraine to achieve apparently victory there. so now they began once when officially announced at least by the russian, i'm in the new stage i try to describe as a do other i don't know if you're familiar with that, but where you fail the 1st time you try again a 2nd time is that what this is, the failure of the initial aims, therefore a recalibration, a new kind of measure of what success means for russia in this war. well, in the 1st week, more were so would be campaign. in the south russia chief, quite a lot of the forces broke out of crimea, moved swiftly in different directions, captured the number of ukrainian big cities without much resistance or with no resistance at all across the nipper, captured a bridge over that nap or rather spectacular. but then that the advance kind of
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came to a halt, not enough reserves. and now the commander who was in charge of this initial success in the south. and general, alexander and gordon gulf, the commander of the south mode should district is become the c and c of the whole operation. he has given more freedom, more reserves. and since he is kind of the general of the month of, from the russian point of view, who achieved most successes, it's called on him to kind of achieve success of the entire operation and below. see what you're going to do. of course, right now, it's a very slow start for the 2nd stage at a preliminary action and very slow action. all right, let's talk about what ah, russia is going to do. how do you know you can call your member of the ukrainian parliament, your in key of your ukrainian? what do you think that russia's president push and wants with don boff? oh, 1st of all, i want to response on the, on
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a light and russian propaganda that you just heard from the man before. so there is no operation and don't call it operation because it war it's mess of execution ops to de leon who have nothing to do, you know, with military guy. if you want to call dark cher, torturing children, an operation. if you are calling these kind of things, an operation, then i'm really sorry for you because you know, there is something wrong with your head and with your moral qualities. so this is worth, this is much of execution of the be us. this is torturing of children. this is the race been woman, and no one in this world. no one who has heart and who has mind in his head. don't call it operation. it's a war and it's, it's a very bad thing. the russian walk your bus, the thrush, my teeth,
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i join in ukraine. and this again is very time. just yesterday i have reported on my teacher that ah, the situation in mighty, which is very time. there are still a number of to be lance. we are talking mainly about women and children, and in my opinion as a mother of 2 children, there is no way the thrush and soldiers can thor terry can sally children? there are a lot of children. a lot of mothers, a lot of mothers with new born baby in my boy, heidi in warm shelf off as old style. and we hear the russian soldier have order to sell this people. so russia have an order to sell children. ok. i haven't lee, i know to all i rob, dick mothers and all a rabbit. you know,
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people who are watching our show, do you consider that it does ok to show and to murder shield? do you imagine that your children or you yourself will goal this kind of nightmare? this is what ukraine is going through. i know that i know that the mary paul has said some 20000 civilians have been killed in mario poll. it hasn't been verified, but that is, that is a, that is a shocking number. i need to move over to brussels. if i may, theresa fallen. what do you think that president fusion wants with don boss? and what do you make of, i know the european council president. chelsea cheryl is in key of today. what do you make of europe's response so far? well, it appears that instead of working all across ukraine, they want to focus and on back to have some sort of success story. but even many ellis think that may, 9th deadline. some people think that because of the main picture day deadline that
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they want to serve up some sort of positive story for us. because most alyssa, being rather shocked and surprised at how long this is taking russia. so people overestimated. russia military has been acting very chaotically and now they can just focus on don boss, but of course the ukrainians have a great deal experience there. they've been at work for 8 years. and as you noted, shells michelle, the president of the european council is visiting here today, signaling your interest in the region. the whole issue about sanctions is kind of symbolic in many respects. some sanctions do have t, we're seeing that the russian economy is really taking a hit. but the, the key issue is energy. and for example, germany is almost half reliant on their supplies for russia. so i think that the fact that they're still not talking about gas doesn't so that they're very serious about that because they're worried about the inflationary pressures in europe. in
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addition to that, individual members, they can cut reliance on russian gas as we've seen with india, which now has 0 in ports of russian guess. so they don't need all for the whole, you were 27 member states. it's very difficult to get everyone to agree. you have some countries like hungry or, or pro russian than other countries. so it would be difficult for them to all work together. they might water down the sanctions, but then there are other types of symbolic sanctions like and caviar, which is just a small, small portion of exports to europe. so i think that the europeans, you know, they do a lot of virtue signaling, but i think that there is a growing wearing is about what's really happening in ukraine. we've seen millions of refugees lead to europe. and as the other commentator noted, this is a very serious war, and we're also seeing the facts on intended consequences of russia's behavior. for example, both sweden and finland are looking like they will join nato. we're going to about
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that. we're going to talk about, we're going to talk about those moves to with joining nato a little bit later. and what that might mean for security calculations in europe. and i'd come back to you puzzle falcon howard, because i don't think we've really answered this question yet. what is the significance of the don boss region for president clinton low russia has been supporting the pro ration separate this there and on that scale, and will gumps, or since in 2014, before this campaign began, russia recognized officially the independence of these 2 are a state wits and actually of the official reason for going into your graham has been the need to defend them and expand their territory to the administrative pre war territories of the will guns. and that sco blast. so now they're trying to do that. apparently none,
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but again there's lisa talk about the main 9 deadline. i don't believe that there is a deadline. it's not, there is no deadline at all. the other thing is to brushes, to court in a very serious situation, and we'll try to do its best to break out of it. but the answer in may 9 does not put in my check role. there's going to be a parade in moscow and okay, but that's it. right now. russia and ukraine are in the mid season of the situation. the winter campaign is over, the summer campaign did not begin the ground was still a bit wet. there were a lot of rain. so right now actually the advances will be very slow by definition, because you have to still rely on paved roads, which in the don boss are very narrow, not many of them, and they're very advanced state. so both sides are preparing for decisive battle in
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the summer campaign. and that's right now what would be jumping for positions who's going to occupy the better position for the decisive factor which had begin, will happen and may, may be in june. helena, you can't go talking about the east about dawn, but it's been almost 8 years since they self declared themselves as republics. it's been described since then. it's becoming totalitarian. it's like right. ok, slight. will you give me your once again, this be a bowl? well, going to referenda will be poor by russian soldiers who came to our land, who came to us over an country which ukraine is and what in 2014, and they force people to go to break referendum, please don't use which in narrative don't use narrative of russia and don't say that you create new territory claims themselves to be, you know,
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russian directors or in the funds wired and fled. they are not self declared. right. they are not self declared. ok, right? they are generally separated, right? so please don't use russian narrative because i hope that you are an independent media and not cram the media or russia media. right. what i'd like to tell you is that is that is that. 2 the guy, the russian guy who just talk is talking about, you know, it kind of, we to campaign some a campaign, but he forgot to mention that the risk bring campaign. it's f o n t campaign. a campaign where you, craig, farmers, when you grant agriculture company is a play team full board, which will grow in some an autumn. and i want to tell you, i was actually too young to finally knock to your hearts and your minds with
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information. that's what the russians are doing in ukraine is a through city, but not all the ukrainian pupils, ukrainian mothers, ukrainian children, but also they are doing horrible faith to all around the world. ok, i will. sure. no, no, i hear you saying please, no, excuse me. my role in this my role is to ensure that we have an even conversation. you want me to share the amount of time. so i'm sorry, i'm going to have to pass on over to our analyst in europe. teresa, how do you think this is going to play out? is the east going to come under russia's fair of influence? is that car? is it going to be annexed? in the fog of war? no one has made any correct predictions at all in this war. and i would say that it's really unclear. no one would predict half of the things that have happened in ukraine. so i will not make any predictions on this. they are adding more troops in
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the region. we know russians have a huge morale problem. and this could the cranes of pod very hard because it's their country and it's their land. so it's very difficult at this moment to predict what will happen will be a turning point. as leverage has stated, it's phase 2. but i think that your p in response to all of this needs to be more weapons, more support, more sanctions, and more money. we see germany kind of dragging their heels on all of this present . zalinski. ukraine has beg for a leper tanks from germany. there's a lot of reluctant to do this. a new scandal just erupted recently in europe about the s p d 's ties to gas problems, the russian gas company. so the corruption, the octopus of russian corruption, which is not just to london grad, is everyone calls london where, where it's known for washing the longer, you know,
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being the laundromat for russian oligarchy, money. but we see this in germany, the biggest country in europe, the strongest economy, and they have such post ties to russia. we see that it has hobbled any initiatives to have sanctions meaningful sanctions. i guess. now they're trying to cobble together some sections on russian oil that has been delayed for quite some time, but they're trying to iron that out. so i think that europe really needs to take these things seriously. i know it's big and unwieldy and very hard to get these things done. they do a lot of virtue, signaling and symbol. but i think that we understand that there will be village that you might not just be the only it might just be an appetizer if we look at the agreement. so the draft agreements that who's in table back in december, that this means more than ukraine. the baltics are fearful central eastern european member states are very fearful. so i think that putting has inadvertently given a mojo back puzzle. how can,
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how are there have been war crimes documented. there has been an opening all of an investigation into possible alleged war crimes at the stories as well as we've been hearing 4 weeks now are, are horrendous these, these just atrocities as we've been discussing? do you believe that russia will, i guess, be held to account all that these will be fully investigated? i low, i believe they're going to be investigated, but not in russia right now. the moscow is rejecting out of right now, that's the kind of traditional position happened with the murder of the polish officers and 1940 and was a russian denied any responsibility to the soviet union collapsed together. it come in the straw. so i don't really think right now russia is going to cooperate a rope. fortune promised apparently the austrian chance the word that russian with
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corporate. but i don't think that that's going to happen. of course, in the future. if there is, as i don't know, regime change in moscow, there are these crimes could be actually tried in court may be made even in moscow. i don't know, but that's very much in the future. it's not immediate right now, and it doesn't have right now that much bearing on the situation in the field though, of course, in the it's a, it's a terrific p r disaster for moscow. and i believe the very serious things that have been done by russian soldiers and apparently by their commanders were working the other direction. i'm not sure that this was a political intent, but the anyway, the result is disasters but nothing is going to be done about it. in your question,
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and i can i to you, helena, you, tanka. oh, how do you think this is going to play out? what are your, i guess, concerns for the coming weeks and months for your country? if a russians don't put down their weapons and leave our sovereign country a dissertation, not only in ukraine, but also in the world and in around the world as well, will be deteriorating. the traditional will be worse and worse. and that will be a very serious problem. with food and with food security and in a radical world as well. whereas, you know, ukraine's agree ukraine agriculture, ukrainian food, ukraine, sunflower oil but also wheat and the recall the chill ro, products a, c, d, around the world as well. 42 percent of ukraine, an export was agriculture and foot. so if these year and next year around the
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world will have no agriculture from ukraine. if agriculture a product will go, the price for a good cultural product will go high, you know who to blame. you should blame bratia, you should blame russian army and you should blame them because they innovated our country and they don't let us to have a proper land or a plant campaign. yeah, we are unable to plant wood for the whole world, and i think we're already on the phone. 600000000 people in the world are dependent on ukrainian food. i know we're already saying i just around the around. right. we're all ready. seeing skyrocketing costs of basic goods for many people around the world where come lead to the end of the program. i'd like to go back to theresa fallon just to,
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to round out the show here. when the war 1st started to stand with ukraine, sort of symbol it was everywhere. do you think that as time goes on the world's resolve, the west resolve to help you? crane may filter. i mean, that's very good question. you know, the national communities attention span is very limited. so i think that moves like today's president of the european council charles michelle visit to give, keeps it on the, the map for many people. but i see, even in the new cycle, we don't see it on the front page so much anymore. the story of ukraine. so i think the russians understand that. and i also, we all know that the warrant on that has been going on for 8 years. and it didn't really get onto the headlines until the age of ukraine. so for 8 years, this has been link, you know, this has been a long drawn out conflict. and so this is my concern. but on the other hand,
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now we're seeing because of this kind of distraction with ukraine, sweden and finland are looking like they are going to ask to join nato. so i think that individually meaningful and they wouldn't have considered it because they saw, you know, they're not really fearful of russia. so watch me or they see the military not as frightening as they had in the past is incompetent and chaotic and so joining together sweden and finland appear to be gaining more momentum to join nato. so there's a nato summit in june. so this is something that will be moving forward and today in the afternoon it's a swedish newspaper. there was a very positive editorial by that tauriel board supporting. we didn't membership of nato, which is really a watershed moment because for 200 years we didn't has been a neutral countries. so for them to join with finland. can the idea that, you know, this germinating idea of joining nato full members status because they do have very
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close cooperation with nato at this point. but they would be covered by article 5. so that would transform the landscape, the security landscape of europe. and i think that russia has really misplaced its hand. it has changed the strategic landscape of europe in ways that they had never intended. and i think that this, and i'm the tax you, my apologies, we have run all the time. we will have to leave it there. thank you very for joining us, a vulgar house and theresa fallon. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. so is there a dot com or for the discussion go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash a jane side story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is at a j inside story. for me can vanelle the entire team here and go ha, ah
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