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to 1000000 to go to shock each floor. dwell is a triumph of hardy or climb a mountain. it's one step at a time. ah, that's really the bogus is then that way it becomes something that we can really get our hands around and celebrate a victory for the crew, the community, and for the planet. rob reynolds, al, jazeera, cleveland ohio, ah, type of creature. got the headlines here on al jazeera. russia's president has declared victory in the battle for the besieged. ukrainian city of matthew polt, vladimir putin ordered his troops to seal off the ukrainian soldiers and civilians trapped and still works, which are the cities last pocket of resistance. from which was launched easily. so i consider the proposed storming of the industrial area, pointless. i ordered to a bought it. this is the case when we must think that is we must always think,
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but even more so in this case, about preserving the life and health of our soldiers and offices. there's no need to climb into these catacombs and crawl under ground to these industrial facilities block off this industrial area. so that not even a fly comes through an russian forces, say they have captured 42 villages and ukraine's eastern don bass region. one ukrainian official confirmed the losses, but said there could be one back. he will never succeed. yes, president joe biden has committed another $800000000.00 and military aid to ukraine . in addition to the support package will include heavy artillery and drones ross with them. first days announcement came as ukraine's prime minister visited washington and the prime ministers of spain and denmark, and also pledged to send more weapons to ukraine, bear the latest european leaders to meet the ukrainian president and keith. they also made a trip to bar dunker outside. the capital of the bodies of 9 civilians were found are the night spain's federal sanchez condemned what he called the atrocities of
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futons war on the streets of the town. for mon do, and president one, orlando hernandez has been expedited to the us to face drug trafficking charges, a one time u. s. allies accuse of helping to move tons of cocaine into the u. s. for almost 20 years soon. so charge of accepting a bribe. the head of a powerful cartel. hernandez denied the allegations, but the arab league, as called in his rail to stop jewish prayers, taking place inside the alex, a mosque compound and occupied east jerusalem. 21 palestinians were injured. after his ready forces fire rubber bullets and use pepper spray to disperse them, it's been almost a week of tension at the holy sight fuel by visits of jewish ultra nationalists bruce during the muslim holy month of ramadan. while those were the headlines of the news continues here on our da 0 after infest, raleigh, stating, dental watching bye for now. ah,
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a heated debate in manuel macro and marie le pen go, had to had on several political issues. they both appeal to their base is just days ahead of francis one of those. but who was more convincing? this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm hash him. i'll bother with just days to go. the friends presidential contenders have held
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a televised debate in manuel macro and marilla pan. are each trying to convince french voters they are the right candidate for the job. but a lot has changed since they 1st went, had to had in the 2017 election. ukraine is at war. the e. u is in crisis, after brags it, and france is facing numerous challenger's opinion. polls suggest mcgraw may have a lead by it's a tie to raise and anything could happen. we'll bring in our guests in a moment. first natasha butler report from paris. o deliveries like it there. it didn't take long for things to become tense. soon after the start of the french presidential candidate debate, the centrist incumbent emanuel macro put the far right candidate, marine the pen on the spot. by questioning her links to the kremlin and a russian bank and the funded 12017 campaign, was every dish of thought. you were one of the 1st european leaders in 2014,
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to recognize the annexation of crimea. because you depend on the russian regime. and you depend on mister putin, madame le pen, you took out a loan in 2015 from a russian bank. the 1st check russian bank, which is close to the government amendment. my boy, except the presenters repeatedly called for com is the candidates, disagreed over issues including climate change, education, immigration, and the european union. mackerel believes the block should be stronger and the pen wants to diminish its power. the far right leader also said she would make it illegal for muslim women to wear the headscarf in public if elected macros said such a move would provoke a civil war is a shrewd ball and the others only. well, knowledge was really, i believe the headscarf is a uniform imposed by islamists that most young women who wear it have no choice. this is a just shelton france. country of the enlightenment of universal values would be the 1st country in the world to ban religious symbols in public space. the 1st
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country in the world, that is what you are proposing. what i'll look at times mcgraw seemed over confident or on the attack. but for most of the debate, he clearly had the upper hand, leaving the pen, looking frustrated or confused. a performance wasn't a total re run of the 2017 election debate with macro a disaster by her own admission. but it wasn't far off, although she gained ground on some social issues, including health care forward can, can a minimum of the reality is during your presidency. mr. mac, hong. it's only crazy is that make you act there. had to be a pandemic to make you realize that help workers have been in a terrible way for years. you, in for nearly half a century. presidential candidates in france are faced off live on tv and the debate that's usually watched by millions of people, and is often a pivotal moment in the election. on monday that law was a fiery exchanges to actual flourishes. the debates are often highly anticipated by
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few as and rarely dull. over the years the protagonists and politics have changed, but one thing has remained constant and the person most widely perceived have won the debate often wins the election. voters on sunday will now decide whether history will repeat itself. natasha butler, al jazeera paris for president bo, ah, listening in august in the french city of some hello, jack ro, laws senior research fellow of the global policy institute in paris. fam kick rumbler. political anna is focused in in europe, and in bristol, u. k. james shells, professor of france politics of the university of warwick. welcome to the program, james. there is a prevailing sentiment that my cron was more can been sing during the debate, but is this on its own enough for him to win the election?
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i think that is indeed the prevailing sentiment le pen marin pen needed to do 2 things. in this did beat. she needed to do much better than in 2017 when she had a disastrous to be appealing, ill prepared. and i was of a bit and simply unfit for the highest office. this she did achieve coming across as much calmer, more on top of her brief, more serene, less excitable, less aggressive. however, she did not achieve her 2nd objective. she needed to learn some real blows on macro to close the gap and the polls. and she didn't manage it. draw was all was going to be good enough for micro butler pen needed a win on what we got, i think was a droll or maybe even a win on points for macro. ok, i don't think the debate in that sense shifts the picture much. jack,
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anyone would be looking for a moment that would be widely seen as a game changer during the debate and for many that didn't happen. but for the time being does lapel has a chance to narrow the lead of macro within the coming days before the vote? no, i don't think so. i think yesterday, as jamie said, she needed to challenge the president and she, she, you know, doing instead, actually, michael was the most offensive. and melinda ben was very much on the defensive. and when it came to, yes, she improved a composure and so on. but the debate showed that she still as not is not really credible that she doesn't master debriefs than she's meant to defend,
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especially on the economy and on europe. and therefore, she didn't appear more competed. she appear more composed bud instead, or it will, she will have probably contorted a position of supporters, but i don't think she gained any votes a door last night. funky. do you think that she gave the impression too many people in france that she would be the right person to rule the country? and i think this is actually exactly the right question as, as was just alluded to. i think the way that she prefers, even though her posture was much calmer, and she kept him looking at her notes. and she, she did have multiple moments at which she wasn't really able to respond to my crowns level of technicality. an expertise. on the other hand, i would say that michael, even though he was,
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he performed very well in terms of content, especially with regards to mary independent in comparison to her, his posture. i think actually really risks reinforcement of a prevailing picture amongst many french things. he's arrogant and there are also detached to certain extent to the, from the reality of what the french live every day. so that's the risk that i see on his side in terms of the game changer is definitely not a game changer. but i think it debates it, if it was watched by somebody who was hesitant until towards marrying the parents, maybe that's a voter that could have gotten convinced that she's not in a position to rule a country. james, to what extent has the war in ukraine undermined or could undermine her parents chances to win the election? i think this is a cd is a plot of trouble for the pen. her past position on
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the been especially these are the russia? no, she has done quite a lot to position herself. let's see by comparison to is it was a movie who was the other far right. come in the, in the race. so the 1st read knows the movie was much more let's see. and keep taking ukrainian refugees lapel, made a point to say no, not only will be taken and we'll send a bus to pick some of them up. so she has been, she has been trying to get on the right side of her street in that sense. but it is a problem area for her and her past relations with, with, with putin, how indebtedness are parties in depth. and mr. rushing bank. all of this feeds into picture that is a problematic thought for the pan in terms of russia and ukraine. jack, are we likely to see this dip race being centered on issues such
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as immigration, and is lam and particularly lupins position on the ban? on the wedding go the of the hey jab, what does it explain? why micro c z? a put it is saying that if she goes on that, that could trigger civil war in france. yes. have you see that was really pointing or you know, position because a regarding has scarf. you know, one of those must be made. is that the a yesterday that i have been should have tried to attract them? it also does, but position on the sam will completely repaired at all. and my call was quick, very quick to point out that that point out the issue of the scarf, as he said it would be the country of elijah leyden would be the only country in
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the world to buy a scarf. so you medically afforded the reproach for linking headscarf, where you start museum and terrorism, and that is not right. she was, are we ground it instead? the program for her is that the issue of the a scarf, a kind of a heat of conceive all the other issue that she would have liked to develop are linking is security to immigration. so thought that this car, well, good for michael and i've a hear you scored heavily against her. maybe some people can. it was a bit strong to say that just such a position would probably lead to see the war. that's what to support or say the whole most people in france agree and his position is at 11 has, is not try to tour is a supporters. and with order peter funky,
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she has a money, le pen and has reinvented herself in a way or another, softened her sense when it comes to many issues, particularly the issue of the where now she says that she's happy with a reform from within, not taking the whole friends out of the a block, has this been very good point selling point for her helping her build a robust support base over the last few weeks. i mean, it's interesting because when we just took it, take a step back and look at history and she has moved from calling for a friend that so frank leaving p u 2 words calling for a euro exit, which at the time, one or 2 weeks ahead of the election in 2017, she retracted on and to now and not calling for any of the 2 anymore. and just remaining here, a skeptic. she's doing this because actually missouri or the french are not. you're
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a skeptic at all. something that is very much confirmed by the polls, and so she's trying to gain boots. but the problem is that if you really look at her program and what she suggests, a lot of this things are actually not only empty constitutional crimes, but they're also incompatible with a new law. and what would the factor lead to france leaving the european union? and this is something that she's not willing to talk about or even willing to knowledge anymore. that's the reality of her program. james, if micron has been seen as more convincing during the debate, however many who watched him still say that he looks very oregon's latest and detached from some of the concerns of the pool and average citizens. is this something that could hold him in the future? undoubtedly this is his achilles heel on. it goes all the way back to the she lesion to the vest uprising. my crawl finds it difficult not to
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exude oregon's. he did it again. last night. he went and blue pen went into the to be having to exude competence, composure micro winton, having to try to under plea, has natural tendency to, to be, to look superior. he didn't achieve that. and this is something that could come back to haunt him. and i would see will come back to haunt him because the problem is that this is a runnels for the french didn't want. they did not want, they expected it. the polls were clear, this was what 5 years we've been told would be the run off again in 2022. but when asked, is this the run off you want? a vast majority of respondents said no. so the 1st problem is that there is a hunger in france for something different that isn't loop in that isn't my call on me, isn't pen, best is microphone. so micro is likely to win this election by default. you want in
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2017, through a mixture of his own talent lock on the default. he'd like to one this one by default. and that i think is a big, but for him to carnie into a new monday. and i don't think you'll be given much of a honeymoon in that monday if he is, as we expect reelected, jack shouldn't micron be concerned, because all those who voted for the foreign light, far left candidate john nick milon shall remain quite skeptical. they won't be able to forget any time soon. i'm done on the, on the village on the won't forget the impression that this is someone who has always been seen as friendly towards the bankers and the wealthiest of friends. i would, i would like to tone down what james, just saying,
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but it could have been the impression given before the 1st job, but between the 2 rugs after the 1st one of the addiction, michael went to the contact of the people. michael went into was diag wrong. the next day on monday he was into how kind of a bed, donna, where most people voted for a pen. and 2 there again after the debate, he was in some neat, where it was during all these last few days. he's been what do you know what he says? we didn't stepping distance big. he's been mingling with talking to everyone and the pressure is given and you can see all the news reeves or the news is ready ready to be challenged. what not in the bed. i stayed very shattered from any kind of position she has always played on very friendly wrong based on the taking set of fees with people looking like they were going next door,
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a friendly understanding. the people said that michael has been to the trash is been going to contact and again today today it was it sunday in town where the amino show vote was 60 percent. we only got 20 percent and there you meet with the crowd. so these images are quite strong and undermine acquisition of arrogance. but call is someone who like to argue with people to discuss with people with anyone. that is quite good, is eudoxia, he shows that he takes risks as well. so that's something that people i k name is kind of a southern bravado. you would say, what does a job? and i think for his image is been very good. is image just change the law in the last 10 days? funk about husband marie lupin in a way, or another shaped the political discourse itself. in france, she's been shifting the horn down to of towards islam security, immigration,
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amanda, mental. the constitution anticipate it isn't below to the point where micron himself had to reinvent himself in dore. some of those ideas to appeal to the people who support muddy la pan. i mean, i would have moderated to a certain extent where i think that some the issue of immigration and security has certainly been very, very important issue in the past and over also over the past couple of months. and i would certainly agree with the fact that my call and other politicians have gone into that territory in order to be able to kind of speak to my lapel watches. but at the same time, and polls also confirm that the real issue that the french are concerned about either is that purchasing power is the right of the race of prices and their ability to continue to live, maintaining a certain standard of living. and it's interesting to see that much of the public debate keeps on focusing on security and immigration when actually,
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and the real concern is about purchasing power. james, when you look at the growing support for muddy le pen, and for the far right candidates in this particular election, this is leading many people to say. if marcella payan does not win this election, most likely, however, leaves the far right in the upcoming elections in 5 years from now. we'll definitely will become the 1st far right president of france. i think there is a graph that points in that direction. if we think know that 3 of the last 5 presidential elections for the runoff has been contested by the blue pen. her father's almighty, the 10 score, 18 percent, and the run off in 2002. she herself scored 34 percent at 5 years ago in 2017. if the polls are correct on maximum wins
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555-562-4445, she will have to torn 10 percent to that score of 5 years ago. there is an inexhaustible lord cheek that seems to suggest that this tightened. his rising and rising still on part of the problem here is thus michael, partly through his doing, ah, partly through the tiredness of the old pillows that where the socialists on the center left the republicans on the center. right. those have those pillows of collapse. micro no sons, he sons on a centrist island, surrounded by not bought extremist parties and leaders, almost 60 percent, 50 percent of the foster and vote went to extremist candidates. on the far left milan shot on the far right. the pan, obviously, on exam moolah, no,
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the problem is that unless something else comes along to fill the gaps that have been created since 2017, my expectation is that this at this what type of fall right on possibly fall and what's, what's to stop continuing, ok, jack, is it fair to characterize this election as a vase between 2 visions, one which is pro europe unity and one and, and republican ideas. one which has a potential to undermine many of the basic tennis of the french, a republican system that did you divide in france is said to be no longer left and right. but in progressive and nationalist people who are too open to to realize that the way fail france depends on the welfare of europe and
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winning france in a way. yeah. you have to frances, you have to france urban, france and mitchell. but in transit confident, france did you get in france at which looks out to the world and then not in the bed represented. the poorer frowns the least 45 for all to frighten france who wants to take should be on the borders. it is, it is a bit like, you know, brings it can get those well, but at those who are looking back to the past to learn id or pass. but i want you to go back on that. i think that yes is that the extremist vote will carry on, but what we can see in front of yes, you are, you will change is it will be very interesting. after the election, the french political landscape is in tatters. ok. and we will see how it will reorganize and i can see it happening that was under, right. it's quite clear that you will have 0 supporters,
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the ribbon supporters and the people are on the right within though everybody contacts your g and so on. well, share the same values as well nationally. similarly, i have, as we say, as, as i've been trying to form a group together with the staff, will not that the glass ceiling that not in the bed has that ad with a different leader would be a strong force in 5 years time. this is going to be my last question to funky. if, if macro wins, do you think they would have, he would still have the same luxury to follow his agenda in the future. or do you think that the political landscape itself will be forever changed in france? the real question, i think the specific you know where he will be able to implement his agenda will be whether he managed to get a majority in the legislative election. what happened just ahead of or that will really be key to watch. apart from that, he will be in his 2nd mandate. so not necessarily seeking re election afterwards
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unless we have another crisis, which is something that we need to remember for his current monday, th and to manage the coven crisis, and we're in ukraine. and then he will, i think have space to implement his agenda the, the question almost independently or on top of that is how does indeed the french electro party landscape evolve. because as we've seen right now, the traditional mainstream center left center, right. thank is are in center is from k chromebook james shells. jack will thank you very much. you for your contribution. thank you to for watching. you can see the program. i got any time by visiting our website. i'll just ada dot com for further discussion goes all the facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha sites 40. you can also join the conversation to what a 100 is at a j insights loading for me. how about about on the entire team here in ohio, like one? ah ah
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