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on al jazeera, after paypal and palace, david. teaching in you can book out to see were english streaming like only teaching channels plus thousands of off programs. award winning documentaries and debt musicals. subscribe to you cheese dot com, forward slash al jazeera english. ah. when the cobit pandemic, again, the need to minimize face to face contact drove many of the wills judicial systems on line. no in the name of cost speed and greater efficiency. some of them want to stay there. but critics say that holding trials in cyberspace can deny defendants the right to a fair hearing and remove safeguards against abuse. so who's right?
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we asked reporters sarasota to investigate. ah ah. the physical confines, the courtroom in the place of solemnity, decorum, and authority. that is, the cleavage pandemic sent the globe into yorktown. courts praise that doth states middle thirties around the world, tend to new ways to keep legal wheels spinning fe went online. the principal argument is going to be that it saves time and it saves money. no one
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rhina is the chief executive of the n g, a fair trials international. at some point, you have to be willing to say that justice is more important than expediency. the greatest power government could wield short of, of warfare is the power to prosecute. to imprison in some places to put to death. the function of a criminal defense lawyer is to stand between the individual and that awesome use of power. and in order to do that effectively, you have to be in personal contact with your client. ah la, we'll see that his available my much because might this noted cushions across the globe judiciary is we're quick to see the potential i'm a judge. and so with a software companies, digital justice with virtual court hearings from microsoft in up governments
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deliver justice at scale. inevitably, this new virtual world was not without its changing his settings. i think this is a setting on your i pad. so your i pad probably sat to stay in portrait, mo, let me go into my settings. is that what i need to do or judge dean is modeling it for you if you can see him. oh, come on, cathy, can you do this? it's okay, we're all new to this. and occasionally, when the room button was pressed, real judicial hearing descended into outright cause to part. and i believe you have a filter turned on in the video setting. i don't know how to remove it from my assistant. her, she's trying to book, oh, i'm repaired no forward with it unless i'm here law. it's not. i'm not a chair. put apart from technical. he comes this brave new veteran world lucy pennies, a serious legal questions. can you hear me judge?
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i can hear you. i disappeared, caught video has an important notice in the corner, but that didn't stop being shown around the world. the problem, ah, with the remote viewing of a trial is that people tend to just see snippets or what, what, what somebody else decides is work. seeing there is no, i'm alternative. if you want true justice from being there from start to finish. the right and duty of the public to see trust is being done is considered a fundamental principle of nace, jurisdictions or big critique say that becomes hugely problematic when the process is remote. and factual representation of an individual to a sentencing authority has to be a human engagement. if that person is at a remote location in the custody and control, or the jailer, or a police, a police officer, you're not going to see, you're not going to hear. you're not going to learn the real facts. that's where
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the concerns about torture committee. and there's no substitute for having a person since we pressed. our inquiries took us across the globe to examine claims that state abuse, state torture has been going on, seen on hearings, went online. and that these failures in remote justice have been happening in some countries where police brutality is endemic. and where the judiciary is. the last shield against human rights abuses. ah, the city of south holland, in brazil, in this huge nation, beset by criminality, drug related violence, and with vast disparities of wealth, one in 5 people in custody have reported police brutality after being arrested. but until 2015, those people were held in pre trial detention sometimes by the very will for it is
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who had perpetrated that appeals with no access to a court hearing where they could complain about their ill treatment. ah, 7 years ago that began to change the headquarters at this apollo law firm. marina diaz told us about special custody hearings where defendant brought face to face in from the judge within a day of their arrest at those murray kinsey or but as you know, she al james surgical storage like appetizing cassandra praising pinch, quite resolution. he's ne, appetizing, cassandra, please. laga pause. i pity zoe. flag around chelly 3 mommy. cheaper. think for those more cheese. the miracle. tell me and queen key up is saw up or g. hill a 1000 me even twice a class when she view lane. so put, put a block while at the opposite. the introduction of new face to face custody herrings was widely welcomed and trumpeted on this official justice department
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video with these face to face herrings with the opportunity for a judge to assess whether someone had suffered abuse at the hands of state authorities. but they also allowed defendant to speak directly to a judge about their treatment when they were arrested and even described their abuse. the effect was significant figures reveal that between 20152019 after in person custody herrings were introduced complaints of police ill treatment more than doubled. but then cove. it struck and face to face herrings suspended in both scenarios. brazil, social unrest and state repression continued. these arrests occurred in sol paolo the month before we arrived. but as the state pushed the custody herrings to go online, the concern that people arrested across brazil now had limited opportunities to
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complain about their treatment. lawyers and human rights activists fed violence and abuse of prisoners was once again going unchallenged. and the defendants were appearing online from prisons and police stations where of camera they were open to intimidation and coercion. though i all view her key ah, jane up it is in so if i storage fittings and if it is for me to live gleneagles that are so key are going to suffice. good. will made of his list on what it is. oh yes, you don't think want to soil sink was even give it if he garcia, le barger looked it up as a several gay kiss. dasia crashing do i, ella? a e act inclusive in that fitting dulness work. so the booming ah, in lute areas of states like panam, butare, ne, brazil monitoring what was happening became even more difficult. international
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protocols, all clear hearings should be in a neutral, impartial environment. loya maria clara davila told us of a different reality. these only even delegates, mild jessica. i mean delegates used algebra number if what we'll see though, that if you can write as a legacy died e alcohol with his mom named now james episode i was or not that age. she june, a boyish didn't end up lucy view a i've yet a mean will disguising to that alec it should be back in a c, h a r c, alyssa hitcher, i don't my, any po, box one go now white robot, out. the brazilian national justice council is responsible for setting regulations on the functioning of the judiciary. one of those requirements is that online herring's should include the use of a $360.00 degree camera, the shown entire room,
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and who's in it. but when glen aldo battista a public defender and param bouquet, conducted a survey of local police stations, he made a disturbing discovery that if you go mr. bay, you know you mozilla garcia's will bring yours. it is evils bow that, that i mean our summer concert national. josh, these are steve. yelp is are so welcome. miracle has also it was, it's us as a garage when we off to space person for the national council. why so many police stations did not have such cameras? they explained it is the responsibility of each court to ensure compliance with these rules. the technical issues were not just limited to the use of cameras, ill pay weiss that is said they box ipad robbie acidic wash dogged inc. implementer more me. associate in all the absolute i'm. if you nod book you will start the irish sob. i la and there's another consent arising from the
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explosive expansion of the actual justice. is there an adequately secure, reliable, and properly maintained judicial internet? that's not what batista found in kind of because a movie does all kinds your is the noise for shot. erm was, these are not veronica, yell diesel dick washed order for hailey zada. ah voting damage to lou suddenly la nicole elton is us. so what i did was subtle law brought the proper out jeep alisha, lakila de la garcia. ah, in south carolina, at this public defender's office, we met lawyer t argo till unit 2, e lead inspections imprisons. he told us about online hearings. there are solid. jo, jane, kids the thing, think that the designs me doesn't have that number. i don't think ok, professor dodge,
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don't into just the pod or c plus choice. you want to sort of all offers in the jail to to boys. i don't, i owe a lot of the, not a lot, but it's not good. my sick of all the data over the do nothing. the tool that you'll do is colleagues to really use his attended an online hearing last year up is coughing, so online through the yellow trans open tomorrow. say if you doing sounds good and shut up his own a chance he don't there who bob todd is michelle. i still feel my place. so hope is fullest and i don't mean to kill you pick up, isn't the show, not the solution found the purpose of the is up. that's a lot more crafty. what kinds of g as a photo here is on this any procedure pillar technology or they will usually so paul, who you'll say call charge. you mean some somebody asked was so physical and was
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till now but tell up this opera is not kaylee. mommy knew she misa, diego put a teeny to land based in how powerless don't often get to the court offices these days because of covey. today they went from pre news apartment was a good job. please say you could show you some remote shot. he told me about a hearing, he dealt with the day before. what's going on here? turning this hearing from my cell phone and that was not to get the prosecutor, the defendant, and myself, and the judge is not here. normally the judge will be, will be here as well, but also had a problem with his goodman and the camera was not working. the defendant, who is in prison, had been waiting for a decision on his case for 9 months. at the end of this hearing,
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he was sentenced to 6. he hasn't 8 months in jail, by an invisible judge. he was convicted ah, the judge that we can't see by the judge that we can see. bruno is caught, diego is a defense lawyer in initial custody hearings. he told us the importance of face to face contact with defendants was underlined when he was briefly able to see them in his court office. he took fate, is that the abuse people say they'd suffered and they'd been arrested. what did he say toys? if that was what moth 90 quizzes? cuz is what he said, no, he'll awful will as you to boys. are he from markers really like, obviously in folic. yep. what is a bizarre? let's look a basic though. he's lucky for him called up. quick hold up. oh, shall. it will. but ask you about the bill for lisa. it is for a live out of that was without acronyms of our sponsor, like abuse of protested or did you do dig a described one particularly horrific incident in the summer is basically
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supporting doing the same day. so any follicular quicker throughout berserker drama was honestly sucking, suck button abuse, or nasa g as a jo, reset your own garbage masula, political part of the, one of the people i'm here. so the phone said no call baths. on soluble parson said, used to put up a group of human rights activists. deeply alarmed by reports of police brutality across brazil, and the failure of online hearings to address it, produced a video called torture. cannot be seen on tv, kill mothers involved in the campaign. explained how it began at last he did do it . his name it though it is, the viola says the date is name. so b r a scar was nan if he saw us, he is stone us. that if it he is, nana said on a spit, if it is a known to read it to verify as we the com. wow. so ma'am, if so minded trace feverish name. so ne m. mercy. the sony little spirit fed
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orangey but is up by your benefits. you don't mind if i bundle those in the statement to people in power. brazil national council of justice told us virtual hearings held because of cov, it were conducted in accordance with rules which guarantee the rights of the arrested person. and that some face to face herrings were being gradually re introduced. but critics fear that virtual hearings justified by cove it will become permanent. as inside the casey gas, the key for faith of the vehicle is assumed, which is a common, tall, different cutting take. well, to 1000000 residential inventory rush, yes, their own g hippos and asthma, his sale man, because the sufficing vis you mangle was a visor he toil ash who my are his say, well, quantile g, so ripen, money said, but in the capital of mexico, a country where according to one estimate,
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as many as 80 percent of herrings have been held virtually during the pandemic. outside the headquarters at the public defense team. lawyers in hazmat suit, dispense, legal advised an old fashioned way face to face and inside lawyers, elevator hernandez and jessica he guerra a setting about their morning's work and dealing with an online system that frequently fails them. elvia multi tasks and she is put on hold, trying to track down a defendant. meanwhile, jessica gets the y fi sorted. the common delicate problem on my end. it was a deficiency in going to call up where you could do it up, or can you come into the money killing them a little while not that he put them on next year, not going to finish. in particular, when you're at the needle,
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a castles on the temple you'll be in, she has 4 or 5 is enough for me. got her new canal internet, then go over, present those because in quinta inn yet, and what was the and she has on there were supposed percentage we catch up with the following day this morning and online hearing involve 7 imprison defendants each with a red lawyer plus 3 witnesses and it doesn't help that nobody seems to have the right link. they wouldn't when at wendy, this cooper said that i'm going to go back and listen, show them in, in if you do like it didn't go now. but i don't see order in know me direct in electric in those monday, we're not allowed to record this natural hearing, which in the circumstances becomes academic witnesses did show louis can't connect . the entire process grinds to a halt and the hearings pe spend. but despite the technical problems,
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leila maris director here does see potential advantages to online justice, croquet in bicycle mom. he can always can that ali saddle up a little belly or let us wisp alice, you see frontier? no, no, no. well, my husband that has glass is good now the interior of the well, the boy is come sierra than my horse only. must fussy monona will now be in seattle, but it's safe schools. girls be seen those in gilbert, vice mexico and norman and thumbs is a they met was a yes and a little bit of blaming the scene. been at louise at the experts on west coast on and bullied by his is. is when megan, i don't want me to a so said yet b m was the last with that has must glad us giving you. it is been that has a was it was was lucky is im, go more the woman thank go more, be sweaty, sat a gas, was it brutal, honestly, olivas from and eating justice angio there. all some hearings that should only be carried out in person. lemme yet less holy as his method have been, ellen,
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may he go? and fellow chant ireland, the 14th to san san though the history of gladys established, see those emperor the carlos ceiling, am info. so would i get the pl deleon's his see there and said with well, is it get the blur of the he has absolute them and then no they would say to we have done is than him was glad. ok. the answer has come. hello. the answer contra live, then yawn all the answers and let's get her see this or alleviate that the last person as know, they haven't said these doilies. and during our inquiries here, we heard about another seemingly key component of the justice system, the significance of human contact. all people seem differently when justice is behind screens up. so now then through the process, so i blend door, but for now, but for now i get one with animals, al, yankees stab landlocked as him knocking in doses. which of us boys said the glendon to steegal. he play steadily until now. okay. yeah. christmas i went to there's a book, another study in dallas office when the, when was the last person i said the focus is new to my secret. i'm. i had
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e. oh the nan look at amos a look at his animals. they want to steal, to which hearings should be on line, and which face to face. we met up with judge martino trailer, you deals with juveniles youngsters. you can enter the criminal justice system from the age of 12 with potentially dramatic consequences for the rest of their lives. they job federal law allianz. yeah, we've got our crime scene embargo e electric tease yahoo and needed a seabrook on which a board hillock on being the mass householder. good. luckily convene a mass easy la can be in a mass, hobbes. this is selena. look going for that of mass is less, but that's a very, as, as you get a guarantees and all of that it took dental illness, interest from whatever it must come together. but on the federal level,
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the indian you forget, i was just the name of the mother going to be that i was it's i, you know, your dora the rally, my fiancee. i love the all the good old dinners, good buffy and see, and we just put a little bit of it for today. the future. you think it's the future as of who to it's like a digital cold. so now operational in one way or another across 5 continents. and despite the questions raised yoke him, it's for, and that justice or claire, it could reduce caught backlogs, improve efficiency, increase access to justice, who can brazil, unable to pat, nope, of millions of cases. and what people languishing in pre trial detention for years . surely one view would be that online hearings are a way out of that mess to get rid of this battle to get people in front of court in some way. my answer to that is, what are they charged with?
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did they need to be in prison or we, or are they overly using pre trial detention? let's not use the availability of technology to perpetuate a broken system. and we shouldn't be using the criminal law as indiscriminately as we do, but we use it instead for all kinds of offences. and people don't need to be in prison for those things. and that's really what cobit has done. it has exposed the pre existing problems in our, in our criminal legal systems. ah, not only you in a way that they've not been exposed. ready before but has actually made them quite a bit worse. and the danger that we faced now is that these, that remote proceedings which may have been arguably essential for a limited period of time. and for limited purposes during coven will be regularized . and that might yet be the big question in the controversy about remote
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