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to announce new defense deals and free trade plans. at least 33 people have been killed in an explosion at a mosque and african, astonished according to the taliban. it happened in countries province $43.00 people who wounded that comes a day after a series of bombings across the country killed 18 people. com has returned to the most compounded occupied through slim of violence. earlier in the day is ready for us to say most men threw stones to the police station, and they responded by deploying tear gas earlier, they thought rubber, bullets, palestinians for us to presidential contenders. a meeting of voters on the last campaign had sundays run off incumbent and macro is campaign as is campaigning in the south west? well read the pen has been speaking to voters and then hor, headlines. more news coming up here on our to 0 right after we visit inside story. see you later. bye for now. ah.
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taking on i saw in afghanistan, bombing is kill at least 18 people. many of them, minority, she are muslims. can the taliban government contain security threats from isolate and other on groups? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm a hammer, jim jerome, the afghan taliban says it has arrested the so called mastermind of a bomb attack on a mosque. police say he's a major ice operative suspected of helping to kill at least 12 people in the
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northern city of missouri sharif on thursday. on the same day, the arm grew claimed at least 2 attacks in afghanistan, highlighting the security challenges for the taliban since returning to power. last august, i sal detonated the remote control bomb during mid day prayers. the said, oh can mosque is one of the largest for the cities has are a community i so frequently targets the she are muslim minority now to seek their lessons to the incident of the moss was really heartbreaking. i was at the market and came to the san as fast as i could. unfortunately, the toll of casualties and injuries is more than on expectations. more as, as i require only better, we urge de la make emerett to pay more attention to the security of the people. how long will such incidents continue? i've counties done situation is so bad. we have no secure place to live more. yeah . i so also says it was behind a bus bomb blast and couldn't do city on thursday. at least for mechanics working for the taliban died there. on tuesday, school children were targeted in
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a mainly has are a she, i muslim community to explosions in the capital. cobble claims, 6 lives and injured 25. are you in report last month said attacks have killed nearly $400.00 civilians since the taliban take over last year. i saw has been blamed for more than 80 percent of the bombings. ah. all right, let's bring in our guests from cobble fires zealand, executive director of the democracy piece and development thinktank from the hor in neighboring pakistan, robbie or oct, our director of the center for security strategy and policy research at the university of lahore. and also from the afghan capital, neil turner, country director and afghanistan for the norwegian refugee council. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story 5. let me start with you today. how serious a security challenge does ice will remain in afghanistan. oh, thanks for holding me. actually. turns to the front of the 15th of august
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taliban, what pretty much any comfort zone they haven't realized that there are still very significant 3. it's for the scooter of the country. specifically, the monopoly of the power has some created by jim regarding the public opinion. i assist itself. it's not a challenge for me, but isn't after the fall, but it has been a challenge and security challenge for many years now. since 2015 be over time to time blasts. and now attacks coming on and then $62016.00. just taken a momentum now with recent incidents which are really harsh test created a big massaro and then i'm gonna send a big gloss today. also there is a blast in my set province district. so this is going to be a big challenge for taliban because of the lack of capacity on the sort of atlanta
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regional corporation, counter insurgency and counter terrorism capacity. all these and capacities will create more challenges for probably one to overcome the script. robbie, how concerned are kenneth stands neighbors about the impact the security situation in afghanistan could have in the region. thank you so much for having me. i think specifically for august, it is a great spencer. and this concern has been there at the same spot. yvonne has taken over, but if the situation has to be entered a did you know a sense of on staple in august last year? and i think it's not only a concern for bosses on concerns or broader region as a country solid gone. although they made a lot of promises,
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didn't get the process that they didn't have control of their borders. it seems now that the reason just surgeons off t v that you get out of on the back of song. and also i was just inside the sun olive, i no longer have control of borders, not only did on boarders, but also inside industry. so the concern is absolutely great meal. let's talk for a moment about how the overall security situation and garrison is impacting the distribution of aid inside of afghanistan. i mean, the fact that this violence is happening now. how much more difficult does it make it for yourself, your colleagues, other organ to other 8 organizations to actually get that much needed age? the people who need it most. i think at the moment that the age and shantarian action in afghanistan is proceeding quite well. we've come through
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a winter period where we were very worried about supporting people during the cold months and that by and large has been achieved. i think currently we are seeing signs of increased the insecurity. last week's her attack on the abdur rahim shaheed. her boy's school was obviously very shocking. and that impacts on the ability, particularly if schools are targeted in that way, for us to provide education for our students in afghanistan. but at the moment we're not seeing any specific impact on what we're trying to do. and i think that that there are obviously worries for the future if things are intensify. but our concern is mainly getting on with the job of looking
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at delivering humanitarian aid at the moment. and then moving to a situation where development assistance can also enter the country. because shantarian assistance is only going to take us so far. and we also need to look at the economic collapse which has occurred over the last few months. and what we can do about that, and obviously if the insecurity affects a resumption of development assistance to afghanistan, that that would be of serious concern. if i, as i know you touched on, is a bit in your previous answer, but would you say that the overall level of violence and the number of bombings in afghanistan have they risen or declined since the taliban returned to power last august? you will look for sure the security has gotten better because before the 15th of august you were
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a big quote for problem susan. more than $400.00 districts or what there was bombardment from the us troops under the previous government. and the attacks from taliban target killing in bushes, everything was happening in the hi, pete. the number itself incident, tough for decrease noticeable but the problem is with the recent we will attacks and mosques, schools and big gathering specifically and minorities that is increasing worries and creates nobody that going to spend is getting into another another phase of flux. secondly, it is the 1st spring and summer after the takeover of taliban. so i've done is done is usually in plus 20 and it was fight. each spring was giving
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a fight and text. and this 1st spring, takeover of carbon started and such last it was so create you're going to end security another lot and another the stipulation robbie tensions are rising now between pakistan and afghanistan. what's behind the air strikes that pockets are conducted inside of afghanistan last week? so i guess has not officially come out and accepted that price actually made by focus on national official statement does. yes. i think progress on an honest, on refuse to this dispute since august last year has undergone, you know, the guy solution of their relationship with each other. i would divide that into, you know, chief phases of good, bad and of me and be adding a strike. now,
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all, whatever extra station sponsors on had some was i live on that, you know, t t b would be curtails. and as you know, a lot of times the last the and then do the huge under the solid energy they have north. so that is at the heart, all the due to dating relationship between august on and on the sun and boxes. actually you is actually the presence of, you know, there's just no question about it. and you know, the recent, you know, i have since josh about in board invent. that'd be has faith since all the last year. there are $256.00 actually ordered the expected by the fence all the last year which has killed by security forces. it's just
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a lie. you know, hundreds of them have been killed in this month alone. t b has claimed more than 40 it backed out of this is north. something minor? unacceptable. august sun. this is one thing and the 2nd he thought, as you know, fencing it's for that. and that also is from the magic. it is all you know, solid commitments that have been given by the dollar gone to bought your son. that border is acceptable. you're seeing some patches over their safety to be and barbara saying, i think found just errors and it remains highest priority. and, you know, probably need to extend to say got a steady tree if i want all of our launch date actions, concrete actions to stop to be from using a better tree. again,
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neil the norwegian refugee council, your organization, they said last month that the economic crash unraveling since august 2021 has driven levels of humanitarian needs, while also making the aid response challenging. as you want to ask you how much more vulnerable is all of this making communities that are already vulnerable? well, i think if you look at the appeal that was recently made at the end of march, we have $24000000.00 people at risk, which is half the population, at least of afghanistan. of those, i think we're concentrating most on the 9000000 which are at risk of starvation. the figures are startling in relation to u. n. d u n t p reports, which suggests that 97 percent of the population will be in poverty. by mid 2020 to the situation that guns time was bad before it was almost 75 percent in poverty. but obviously when you reach close to 100 percent misrepresents
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a complete economic collapse situation. so we're seeing many more people still run or a bo, i myself was in a idp settlement the other day. and there were reports from families saying that they are really cutting down on the meals that they today. i witnessed people cooking on plastic and also we have stories of children being sent to work and has just conditions or begging and also to girls being forced into early marriage. so all of these things are symptoms of an almost complete economic collapse. and monetary ends can fill the gap in the short term, but what we need is actually re starting of the economy. and the world
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bank is having best spring meetings at the moment and discussing the ass gunston reconstruction trust fund. and it's really important that that money flows and that money is released in the right way. so that things can continue in or for the wider economy to be re established. and the, let me just follow up with you for a 2nd here, you're talking about the importance of the money flowing into the country, the restarting of the economy. you know, i've spoken to other of your colleagues on this program in the last few months, talking about that issue about the fact that the restrictions on the banking system in afghanistan, that that is really hampering the, the efforts of, of agencies. i wanna ask you how much more difficult it makes your work when it's so difficult getting money, getting resources into the country for yourself and for other organizations where
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we've solved the problem in the short term, ah, with what is called the r u n corridor, which is assisting us to bring money into the country. that money is brought in in cash, and then is deposited in the bank and we're able to use it. the problems are around are the central bank, which is still not functional. and the commercial banking system. and also the um, private banking, international financial system, which still is risk averse and can't a properly function and bring money in as it would. and also, obviously the afghan businesses find it difficult to access credit and normal banking procedures. so there have been some advances, things are getting slightly better, but we're still in a situation where we've been forced to create an unusual measure and that there are
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other her, she mentor in agencies that are not in the position that we are in. and therefore they're also having difficulties, particularly national and cios ah, in terms of how they operate for us, we fix the problem in the short term. but the longer term problems remained. robbie: i saw you nodding along to some of what neil was saying, did you want to jump in? i think you know, the challenge. neil has mentioned and basic and i'm the job norway has to lead and you know, in fact that has space and i know that to the board when she's a lot of criticism is right or engaging. she's got to get in there and you know, do something about a crisis, but the situation is difficult. that's going to continue to remain. and my only
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concern, you know, as, as somebody who said that asia is that, you know, there's a lot of speculation out there that, you know, i says i'm talking, you know, as out of or just creating chaos on. probably so solid was injured, broken, brings international attention to the wrong because they can tell the community that you know, the don't have control of the situation. the nice congress, there's an assistance to 1st, it was about getting assistance and then now things are moving slowly to bringing attention to factors. assistant, i think as things are going to get worse from here on list, because recognition for the volleyball coming from a point. defies you. you just heard robber. they talk about recognition not coming
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from anywhere for the taliban. what is the tell him i think about this. are they still seeking recognition? do they think that the international recognition might be happening anytime soon? i actually did the expected international commission, the very beginning of the coming back to pilot. they tried the best, the problem to live on, visited europe. they were in norway and also to convince the europeans they communicated in several contract says with atlantic countries and also with us. still, it's been taught that it will be an easy task, but it seems that the path is very jumpy and very difficult for them with the written decision making on the school as women rights been allowed to work. and also when the monopoly of the power preservative, and now the challenger of the insecurity is coming. the speculation might be
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right, but i think it's pallor by and somehow entertaining such insecurity. the losing public opinion regarding themselves said there is another under that resistance which they call them sort of special resistance. it's very beginning to be, might take moment them with with such incidents said, i'll take a minute if it affects a specific group of people. so these are those biggest challenges that taliban are somehow stuck in the cycle rather than considering now for the international legitimacy recognition domestically this race to many problems to many duty and assistant is not only the one now the insecurity, domestic clashes and contractions regarding different sex and different conditions and fires. we were talking to robert before about intentions,
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between pakistan and, and the taliban. and i want to ask you, is the taliban, you know, concerned or how concerned are they by, by, you know, the increase in tensions between afghanistan and pakistan of late the, nothing the tension i just know. but unfortunately, everybody was believing that when i started back in carbon pucks, that might change its policy to kind of fun. but the puck center skipped its policy . new stabilizing cobble somehow pays off for focused on a different line issue. the forward policy, my present gets involvement when the deal on line and somehow pushing now tyler bon previous. we're pushing because i and then the let me for the commission, the fence, the minute on line. they put a gauge on the line. this made it all fish in transit for the now the or the somehow pushing for the stupid problem. we must not forget the pakistan was an
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officer really having a script of good taliban and but now the good time now the good taliban embed value but somehow looks back against some interest. so pakistan is taking its internal conflict and militia internet. it's for the g to out of i've got to somehow me creating the original problem for tyler bond, which was some which was bitter and go off from the beginning. cut it by thinking that they might get very soon that start up what happy cost a 1000 project real from my projects from becky found to la, hold or pakistan. but now all these things seem somehow and a dream. my dream which may not come through within and power robbie or other countries in the region, putting pressure on the telephone right now to do more to contain the threats from
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iceland, from other armed groups. and if so, how much pressure is being applied? i would like to just, you know, call in on was face said if you allow me to find out a contradiction in his statement, which is that, you know, how is the beneficiary of august to have an upsetting the stabilized mission more than it already has any eastern water and the contradiction is bad, you know, coffee and casa, and, you know, chinese interest in a brownish part, extension of feedback. how does it so bargain? interest to have are the civilized if it wants to get to the future and all in connecting the agent to that is beyond me just check to, you know, i just ation in the region. i think the concerns are great, but i want see a lot,
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many countries coming out in the region and putting pressure on that. i think there's, there's much happening in the region, the dish back to, you know, russia and ukraine and as to how that tuition is and walk away. you know, so far i get to see, you know, decide anybody, you know, putting pressure on the, on the devices before this happens. i brought so that, you know, we should not reach for, for a huge attack, killing hundreds of facilities in order for that to happen. so i hope that asian base and gives the balance on and pockets i should draw some red lines and done. so already he has won us then auto sensing is the other and recognition off international border dot com. it needs to come from the dollar bar. i think i
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need to specify the straight line and thresholds baby, uncertain done. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much. all of our guests fi as alondra, bobby act are and neil turner. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also during the conversation on twitter or handle it at ha, inside story from you or how much room the whole team here, bye for now. ah along with
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