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a different approach. one that is going to challenge the way you think was wor, inevitable. i just want to started to please know that they're not doing the right thing. let's leave simplicity to the headlines. join me as i take on the lies, dismantle the misconceptions, and to meet the contradictions, do we have a real democracy here in the united states, this not a political forwarded? it's a radical insurgency. are mark lamb on hill, and it's time to get up front, right? here on out 0, taking on i saw in afghanistan, bombings, kill at least 18 people. many of them, minority, she, i muslims, can the taliban government contain security threats from iso and other on groups. this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm a jim jerome,

the afghan taliban says it has arrested the so called mastermind of a bomb attack on a mosque. police say he's a major iso operative suspected of helping to kill at least 12 people in the northern city of missouri sharif on thursday. on the same day, the arm grew claimed at least 2 attacks in afghanistan, highlighting the security challenges for the taliban since returning to power. last august, i shall detonated the remote controlled bomb during mid day prayers. the said, oh can mosque is one of the largest for the cities, has our community. i so frequently targets the shia muslim minority. now to seek their lessons to the incident of the moss was really heartbreaking. i was at the market and came to the science as fast as i could. unfortunately, the toll of casualties and injuries is more than on expectations. more as, as i require only better, we urge de la mc emerett to pay more attention to the security of the people. how long will such incidents continue? i've can, nissan situation is so bad. we have no secure place to live more. yeah. i so also

says it was behind a bus bomb blast and couldn't do city on thursday. at least for mechanics working for the taliban died there. on tuesday, school children were targeted in a mainly has are a she, i muslim community to explosions in the capital. cobble claimed 6 lives and injured 25. are you in report last month said attacks have killed nearly $400.00 civilians since the taliban take over last year. i saw has been blamed for more than 80 percent of the bombings. ah. all right, let's bring in our guests from cobble fires zealand, executive director of the democracy piece and development thinktank from the hor and neighboring pakistan. robert after director of the center for security strategy and policy research at the university of lahore. and also from the afghan capital, neil turner, country director and afghanistan for the norwegian refugee council. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story 5. let me start with you today. how serious is security challenge does ice will remain in afghanistan.

oh, thanks for having me. actually. turns to the front of the 15th of august taliban, what pretty much in comfort zone. they haven't realized that there are still very significant 3. it's for the security of the country, specifically the monopoly of the power that has some created by jim regarding the public opinion. i assist itself. it's not a challenge for that isn't after the fall, but it has been a challenge and security challenge for many years now. since 2013, the time to time blasts, and now attacks coming on. and then 6th, 2016, i just taken a momentum now with the recent incidence, which are really harsh. test created a big sato. and then i'm going to send a big gloss today. also there is

a blast in the province now the district. so this is going to be a big challenge for taliban because of the lack of a capacity on the sort of a line regional cooperation. counter insurgency and counterterrorism capacity. all these and capacities will create more challenges for probably one to become the script. robbie, how concerned are afghanistan's neighbors about the impact the security situation in afghanistan could have in the region? thank you so much for having me. i think specifically for august it is a great spencer. and this concern has been there at the same spot. yvonne has taken over. but if the situation has to be entered a did you know, since volleyball staple in august last year. and i think its not only

a concern to box it on the border as a country solid gone, although they made a lot of pharmacist, you didn't get the process, they didn't have control of their borders. it seems now that the reason just says it's off t v that you get out of on the box. and also i was just inside the sun. i no longer has control of borders, not only did on boarders, but also inside industry. so the concern is absolutely great meal. let's talk for a moment about how the overall security situation and janice and is impacting the distribution of aid inside of afghanistan. i mean, the fact that his violence is happening now, how much more difficult does it make it for yourself, your colleagues, other organ to other 8 organizations to actually get that much needed aid to the

people who need it most? i think at the moment that the aids earn shantarian action in afghanistan is proceeding quite well. we've come through a winter period where we were very worried about supporting people during the cold months and that by and large has been achieved. i think currently we are seeing signs of increased the insecurity. last week's her attack on the abdur rahim shahid. a boy's school was obviously very shocking. and that impacts on the ability, particularly if schools are targeted in that way for us to provide education for our students in afghanistan. but at the moment we're not seeing any specific impact on what we're trying to do.

and i think that that there are obviously worries for the future if things are intensify. but our concern is mainly getting on with the job of looking at delivering humanitarian aid at the moment. and then moving to a situation where development assistance can also enter the country. because shantarian assistance is only gonna take us so far. and we also need to look at the economic collapse which has occurred over the last few months. and what we can do about that, and obviously if the insecurity affects a resumption of development assistance to afghanistan, then that would be of serious concern. if i, as i know you touched on, is a bit in your previous answer. but would you say that the overall level of violence and the number of bombings in afghanistan have they risen or declined since the taliban returned to power last august?

you will look for sure the security has gotten better because before the 15th of august you were a big quote for problem. susan, more than $400.00 districts were all at what there was bombardment from the us troops and the previous government. and the attacks from target killing in bushes everything was happening in the hi, pete the number it's often to didn't. tough for decrease noticeable, but the problem is with the recent we will attacks and mosques, schools and big gathering specifically and minorities that is increasing bodies and my creat. nobody that i'm going to spend is getting into another another phase of flux. secondly, it is the 1st spring and summer after the takeover of taliban. so

i've done is done is usually in plus 20 and it was kind of fight each spring was getting that fight and attacks and the 1st spring to take over of problem started with such last it was so create you're going to end security another lot and another civilization robbie: tensions are rising now between pakistan and afghanistan. what's behind the air strikes that pockets on conducted inside of afghanistan last week. so i said, has not officially come out and accepted the sites actually made on national official statement goes yes. i think bunker on end of august on this dispute since august last year has undergone, you know, the guy solution of their relationship with each other. i would divide that

into, you know, chief a good bad of me and be adding a strike now. what patients boxed on had shown was i live on that, you know, t t b would be courteous and honest on you know, a lot of times last year for them to be huge under this article, energy they have not come. so that is at the heart all the did you did a relationship between august on and on the sun and boxes. actually you is as you the presence of you to be in. there's just no question about it. and you know, the recent, you know, i have some shots about in board invent that'd be, has based on his last year there are $256.00

actually ordered the expected buy to be, since all the last year, which has killed box security forces and so just like, you know, hundreds of them have been killed in this month alone. t b has claimed more than 40 it back to this is north something minor? acceptable. this is one thing. and the 2nd, the progress on, as you know, fencing is for the and that also is from the magic. it is no, you know, solid commitment that has been given by that dollar gone to august on that border is acceptable. you're seeing some patches over their safety to see and borders been saying, i think down just errors and still remains the highest priority. and you know, probably they tend to say god, it's david pre,

if i want to watch the actions on actions to talk to the be from using a data tree again. neil the norwegian refugee council, your organization. they said last month that the economic crash unraveling since august 2021 has driven levels of humanitarian needs, while also making the aid response challenging. as you want to ask you how much more vulnerable is all of this making communities that are already vulnerable? well, i think if you look at the appeal that was recently made at the end of march, we have $24000000.00 people at risk, which is half the population, at least of afghanistan. of those, i think we're concentrating most on the 9000000 which are at risk of starvation. the figures are startling in relation to u. n. d u n t p reports, which suggests that 97 percent of the population will be in poverty. by

mid 2020 to the situation that guns time was bad before it was almost 75 percent in poverty. but obviously when you reach close to 100 percent misrepresents a complete economic collapse situation. so we're seeing many more people still run or a bo, i myself was in a idp settlement the other day. and there were reports from families saying that they are really cutting down on the meals that they today. i witnessed people cooking on plastic and also we have stories of children being sent to work and has just conditions or begging and also to girls being forced into early marriage. so all of these things are symptoms of an almost complete economic collapse. and monetary ends can fill the gap

in the short term, but what we need is actually re starting of the economy. and the world bank is having best spring meetings at the moment and discussing the ass gunston reconstruction trust fund on this really important that that money flows. and that money is released in the right way. so that things can continue on for the wider economy to be re established. and the, let me just follow up with you for a 2nd here, you're talking about the importance of the money flowing into the country, the restarting of the economy. you know, i've spoken to other of your colleagues on this program in the last few months, talking about that issue about the fact that the restrictions on the banking system in afghanistan, that that is really hampering the, the efforts of agencies. i wanna ask you how much more difficult it makes your work

when it's so difficult getting money, getting resources into the country for yourself and for other organizations where we've solved the problem in the short term, ah, with what is called the r u n corridor, which is assisting us to bring money into the country. that money is brought in in cash, and then is deposited in the bank and were able to use it. the problems are around are the central bank, which is still not functional. and the commercial banking system. and also the private banking, international financial system, which still is risk averse and can't a properly function and bring money in as it would. and also, obviously the afghan businesses find it difficult to access credit and normal banking procedures. so there have been some advances,

things are getting slightly better, but we're still in a situation where we've been forced to create an unusual measure. and are there are other, a humanitarian agencies that are not in the position that we are in. and therefore they're also having difficulties, particularly national and cios ah, in terms of how they operate. for us, we fix the problem in the short term. but the longer term problems remained. robbie: i saw you nodding along to some of what neil was saying, did you want to jump in? i think, you know, the challenge neil has mentioned and basic and i'm the job that normally has to meet. and, you know, in foss that has space and i know that to the boys when she's a lot of criticism is right or engaging. she's got to get in there and,

you know, do something about a crisis. but the situation is if ago that's going to continue to remain and my only concern, you know, as, as somebody looks at the regional security situation is that, you know, there's a lot of speculation out there that, you know, i says i'm talking, you know, as out of or just creating chaos for the dollar gone. probably so solid was injured. broken, brings international attention to the wrong because they can tell the community that you know, the don't have control of the situation. the nice congress, there's an assistance 1st, it was about getting assistance and then now things are moving slowly to bringing attention to factors assistant. so i think as things are going to get worse from here on list, because recognition for the volleyball coming from

a defies. you, you just heard rob there talk about recognition not coming from anywhere for the taliban. what is the tell him i think about this. are they still seeking recognition? do they think that the international recognition might be happening anytime soon? my actually did the expected international commission, the very beginning of the coming back to pilot. they tried the best, the problem to live on the water visited europe. they were in norway and also to convince the europeans they communicated in several contract says with atlantic countries. and also it's still, it's been taught that they're trying to be an easy task. but it seems that the path is very jumpy and very difficult for them with the listen decision making on go to the school as women rights been allowed to work and also

when the monopoly of the power preservative. and now the challenger of the insecurity is coming, the speculation might be right, but i think it's a pallet by no, it were somehow entertaining such insecurity. they are losing public opinion regarding themselves, said there is another under that resistance which they call them sort of special resistance. it's very beginning to be might take well meant them with with such incidents said i'll take a minute if it affects a specific group of people. so these are those biggest challenges that taliban are somehow stuck in the cycle rather than concerning now for the international legitimacy recognition domestically this race to many problems to minute duty and assistant is not only the one now the insecurity,

domestic clashes and contractions regarding different sex and different conditions and fires. we were talking to robert before about intentions, between pakistan and, and the taliban. and i want to ask you, is the taliban, you know, concerned or how concerned are they by, by, you know, the increase in tensions between afghanistan and pakistan of late the, nothing the tension i just said, nobody. unfortunately, everybody was believing that when i started back in carbon pucks, that might change its policy to kind of fun. but the puck center skipped its policy . new stabilizing cobble somehow pays off for focused on a different line issue. the forward policy, my present gets involvement when the deal on line and somehow pushing now tyler bon previously were pushing because i hadn't been any for the commission. the fence the

minute on line. they put the gates on the line. this made it officer transit for the now the or the somehow pushing for the stupid problem. we must not forget the pakistan was an officer really having a script of good taliban and but, but now the good time now the good taliban embed value. but somehow, the looks back against some interest. so pakistan is taking its internal conflict and militia internet. it's for the g to out of the gun. it's somehow me creating the original problem for tyler bond, which was some which was bitter and off from the beginning. i'm thinking that they might get very soon that start up what happy costs are 1000 project real from my projects from becky stand to la, hold or pakistan. but now all these things seem somehow and

a dream, a dream which may not come through within and power robbie or other countries in the region, putting pressure on the top one right now to do more to contain the threats from iceland, from other armed groups and if so, how much pressure is being applied? i would like to just, you know, comment on was face said if you allow me to find out a contradiction in his statement, which is that, you know, how is the beneficiary for august to have that in the stabilized mission more than it already has any really eastern water and the contradiction is bad. you know, toppy and casa, and you know, chinese interest in a brownish or extension of feedback. how does it so, bargain, interest to have or the civilized advantage if they want to get on the security to the future and all in connecting the supervisors beyond me.

district too. you know, i facilitation of the region. i think the concerns are great, but i do not see a lot many countries coming out in the region and putting pressure on that. i think there's, there's much happening in the region, the dish back to, you know, russia and ukraine and as to how that tuition is and walk away. you know, so far i get to see the site, anybody, you know, putting pressure on the, on the devices before this happens. i brought so that, you know, we should not reach for, for a huge attack, killing hundreds of facilities in order for that to happen. so i hope that asian base and gives the balance on and focus on itself should draw some red lines

has been done. so already is one of them. august sensing is the other and recognition off international border dot com. it needs to come from the dollar bar . i think i need to specify the straight line and thresholds baby, uncertain done. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much. all of our guests fi is alonda robbie act are and neil turner. and thank you for watching . you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle it at a j inside story. from your homage room, the whole team here. bye for now. oh, we town the untold story. ah,

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