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hm. ah, i am family, okay to day on the street, we are going to focus on the latest series of attacks on muslims in india. some of the accounts you will hear are disturbing. so you may decide that the show is not for you. we start our discussion with apple bows. who's a journalist? there has been significant res, incoming widens and adapt against religious minorities across india. the last few years. john, you 41 is in new delhi, is the leaders out of them was wanting is the last well principle of utility on the
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side of your hobbies. because instead of punishing the open treatise equally, we have see that the states are having selective approach towards these sort of incidents. and because of this reason, the religious minorities, particularly those love and hid by the recent spate of while it's shared that they feel unsafe and the sentry how seriously our officials are in india taking. the violet sits targeted at india's minority muslim communities. let's have a listen to our to our guests who are joining us. they will have their own tape offer karita vick lamb. so good to have here on the stream offer. please introduce yourself to international audience. tell them who you are and what you do. i, my name is ad for hon. m. shavani. i work as a senior editor with a new sport to call the wire dot in. it isn't just largest digital platform. i have been a journalist reporting on politics for the past 20 years. i have been living in booking
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out of new demi, especially reporting on politics, policy and issues of indian minorities. more specifically, muslims. good to have here on boarding our discussion hello catheter. welcome to the stream, please introduce yourself. i'm having dr. shannon and i am eat communist feminist activist. i am a bullet biddle, member of the communist party of india, motzkin in this liberation that cbm a live edition. and i'm also the secretary of the on india, the settlements association. i'm vick hm. welcome to the string. please introduce yourself to the audience. tell them who you are and what you do. thank you very much. i'm dr. vick crimson pharma indian police service officer, director general of police looked up for dish at currently chancellor, nevada introductory university guided the as the scholars taking classes of enlightenment, criminal, judas, prudence, and other allied subjects. thank you. thank you very much thanking gas. say you have met our panel. if you on you chip, i know you,
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she was very busy right now. the comment section is for you, your comments, your questions. be part of today's discussion. i'm gonna start in new delhi in april, so i'm going to ask you to have a look at this video and tell me your thoughts. i want to know what kind of attacks are happening and when so this is a possession, a hindu possession that went past the mosque. and the muslims in the mosque reported that this is what happened to them. is this typical as have a look? let's have a listen. go to abilene, bob neglect. yesterday the rally came out, 3 times. it was not a rally, but a threatened away. i will call it a procession of violence. they were brandishing swords and knives and chanting slogan, allotted long live rom. you cannot call it a rally because there used to be rallies when there has been brotherhood amongst us . when they reached near the moss, they started shouting, if you want to stay in india, you will have to chant and rum rama or go to pakistan. removed the mike from the
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master, closed the me shops. there are some boys who couldn't tolerate us, and god knows what happened or why were they brandishing swords? what was the need of i asked about this because you are based in new delhi, that procession. a was in new delhi, that violence happened quite recently. are we seeing an increase in attacks almost as is this unusual? this is unusual, but at the same time, very usual i would say, but let me just talk about this particular really. and this particular end, the 3rd one, this gentleman is referring to it is by the police. they have said that this was illegal and a still, you know, these people, they carried out this value. so what is happening right now? india is completely unprecedented. i mean, for me, i have not seen it in the last 20 years of my career and people who are older than me. they are saying that since the time of independence and since the assassination of mahatma gandhi in 1948 this, these are perhaps the most serious more grim times. and that may be the most
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serious challenge to indian democracy and indian secure secularism that we are facing. so this pattern is very clear, this gentleman, what he's trying to say here is that what happens is that the hindu festivals, which used to be earlier occasion for the community is different religious communities to come together and celebrate. now, there they are, and icing those very festivals. we saw it 1st in montevideo fitness, which is a central state and in india that they are a group of people they were, you know, passing by muslim localities. and that is deliberate. let me tell you, this is not some innocent religious processions that are going on. they make sure that they go there to provoke them. the songs that they are playing on out, rightly insulting to muslims in general, muslim women in particular infected. this is not enough. there are young hindu boys, one dancing to the tunes of songs where they're outright li,
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abusing muslims. so basically they're so drunk on hate, that they are dancing to the songs, which are hateful, literally abusing muslim slows. and then what happens is that they wait for a minimum reaction from the muslim community. when there is a minimum reaction, like say if a couple of people are going storms or something, then the police comes and arrest those people who reacted to that bullying and publication and insults. and this is not enough. what happens is then the state comes in with all a spa wall with its bulldozers and berg doors demolition the houses and shops of muslims. so if you are, if, if they are trying to convey here that this is some kind of a community wildlands, i would say india has a headache, is she'll come in a while and what, what we are vic missing right now is more short path steed was it you, shoes of indian was slips. i was very careful not to use that phrase. camino violence. i, i want to put a couple of ideas to you. victrum. offa says people are drunk on hate. very grim,
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serious time in india right now for the muslim minority as somebody who has deep experience in the police force in utter pedestrian director general of the police force there. how are you seeing this? i'm gonna say it's an optic in violence, but you can tell me how you see it or what's going on. and what kind of attacks are you seeing? for me, it's ready painful to see this come under disturbance because i would rather say the all the legal aid gradients of come and annoyance are there. and the ineptitude and the inefficiency displayed. i have never seen something like this ever. and when i say that the permission was not granted, as i def, i has mentioned that if a permission is not granted, it is the job of the police to ensure that the position is not taken out. there should be absolutely no arms, even the slogan that that jargon during the course off the position rob knob is one of the most b splint of festivals in the country. and to have this kind of mayhem and violence is absolutely unacceptable. now it was the job of the police to regulate the
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position. if there is no proceedings off, such a position should not have been allowed at of cost, nor weapons, nor in cindy and nor provocative slogans. then when you will be fought a mosque it to the job of the police to ensure that the procession moves of a fast. and if that isn't mama's, that did the most impetus infer that is going on and the mom is reciting the quote about that to the summit that could but should not be interrupted or disrupted by loud music slogan, hearing, et cetera. and the police drew jolly well and shaw dead, the position is pauses of the moss and that it's damped up would. you should act as a buffer writ respectable people from both the communities trying to act as a buffer so that that is stored disturbance. now, if the position has vip and it is unacceptable, if they're providing slogans, it is unacceptable. if the rooftops have petrol warms, weapons and big, but it is unacceptable, i would say that i am very disappointed at the efficiency of the local police. and
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not only the deep would use at cutting all at got only an estimated these arrives have not happened just in gina bud order and tried to send them happened. a dentist is adding, jogging, would eat, and they have added to drilled a criminal rights. it is not one and the pattern and the basic foundation appears to be to seem, it seems that they're working on. what dick will not block opportunity. and i had expected a lot more from the law enforcement agencies. i so any. and yet he had to go apples i l l e ban becomes in jesus. this meant all the legality of the profession. but i would not be because use of the word inefficiency because i think that what you seeing here is a pattern on part of the missionary. the police in particular to act with by it, which is lucky we'll get to the floor from the p t. i before we came on deploy your panel came on. she also pointed to that that you having the police and this is not
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the 1st time this is happening. so you have seen other instances in ditch in 2020, for instance, during a donor come to india, it was targeted violence against the minorities. and over there that have been by the deli, would even deli police member is not a state police. ready it comes directly under them. what the dish is under met into these right hand man. i'm a child who minister to the deli police overwhelming. he lives and not just under the laws already that he bought it. i just had them under dick one year and he so even bought these anti terran laws and up to under which it is virtually impossible to get bill, which means that people remain in prison for years on end without being that as hindu supremacists who routinely every day you come across instances of them getting a cause to reap with linda. men cause to kill all muslims announcing their plan to
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the police in the constitution. make india into a hinder nation. they're saying that was fighting for this. they're going to do violence for this, and yet they are never booked on the never touched by the police under the section, which is, you know, you're trying to, over to the state that section one more dissolved form with them all for those were speaking, those intellectuals and activists were speaking in support of minorities and this is a backlog. and the other thing that can you haven't talked enough here is what should be just the fact that the steed missionary is bringing in all over the country. the bog pulido would be to basically be gfc being machine. and since i didn't remember that this is they primarily a british company the when you were in washington dc, my accent is based in london though. but please continue. i'm going to show a bulldozer in just a moment so you can explain what we're seeing. in fact capital,
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would you mind if i do this right now? because i know you will understand the context and it's really important to see this. let me just play this because what was happening here was that some listen families had their home full dose because why capita this is one of the, one of the places let this is happening. but essentially the need is that these families have shop which were encroaching on public property, public land. in other places, the property moved him home in public land, but that's a leaf because it b, g, b does the, does the package and stuff. i think the ruling party have made public announcement, seeing where they are. right, mom, dad, the book and basically right. mulder, tennessee is bungler b. she's living. these are all of speech being used by the ruling party to signal
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that them with linds not only are encroaching the public land, but they do not belong in india that be responsible for the violence of the other victims. so essentially, all right, where limbs have been victimized muslims are being turned into, the accused and in a completely illegal be their properties that was being dealt with this guy, i guess, i mean every capital, let me move on a little bit because i would also want to talk to you and i want to give them some space to do that. all right, so i hear from you all 3 of, i guess, thank you of, of what is going on, how bad it is in india regarding india's muslim minority. but what is going to be done about the i have the critique deep critique. let's push forward. this is jackie a so man, zack here belongs to an organization known as the indian muslim women's movement. part of her purpose in life is to try and get citizenship for muslim women in india . and she goes straight to what she feels is an art sir. to this dire situation,
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india right now, not the politicians. have ellison have look beyond my faith, my legal chillers was id and you know, by and large who existed peacefully. so it's up to us the ordinary indians to defeat the politics of hate and religious following vision. the ordinary women and men be there in the was muslims, christians seeks we need to speak, go against this kind of religious division and bigotry. we need to make those in government own given we need to stand up as fellow indians. we need to stand up for humanity. we need to stand up for peace and justice in our society. we need to stand up to see the soul of our country and succeed the civilization. that is india . see off, i see you nodding. come. i also saw you not in that indians ordinary indians need
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to take control. is that possible offer you start the crim you continue? i think i only partially agree with zika is saying that she's saying all of us need to stand up. i would say the victims of this anti awhile ends. they do not have the power. they are so busy saving themselves, saving this can saving their lives and their livelihoods that they do not really haven't. they're not potty to whatever is happening. i think it is entirely on the shoulders of the hindu majority. in fact, i recently did a program, but i said that it is a 911 moment fall in dales, hindus, where everything is good. hindu should get up and stand up and get counted and say, you cannot do this in my name. you cannot do this under the name of my religion on the protects of saving me, my community and my religion. so it is that i would say it is that significant moment. but besides that, what, what, what zekiel was saying is that how we can come out of this, i would say, i don't really see, i mean, there's only tunnel. i do not see
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a light at the end of the tone of the saying, as you do it inside the tunnel, you don't see how that would have dealt with it. just let me, let me go to let them go to victrum though victrum when, when, as i can says, it's the indian people, indian people consult this challenge your thoughts about how to us into get out of this incredibly tense situation. it isn't right now with it's minorities. i would say that i salute own words of wisdom that she has just said. and i would say that every indian has today to wake up in the sports that i have seen days, which are much worse. but today, there's hope, even in the present context, preserving that this allegation and content allegations the supreme court, the highest horton, if he seized of the matter and if did any misdemeanor or any one crossing the lane, just a short devil to be consequences for the police force for the people and what everybody . but yes, as, as far as zach yo ma'am has mentioned that every indian has to take
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a stand and have a no nonsense approach that india is for all indians. india belongs to every one. the constitutional authority and the caustic, hadn't the confederacy trauma and underneath randomly ality. oh, right. yes. because the constitution was a deity. we wouldn't even be having this conversation cavity glad. and that's exactly the problem. see a victim just mentioned the supreme court and indian india quartz. the problem is that the, a degree of bias basically goes to the course as well. for instance, one of the most, a slammer, phobic of steve exercises that has deacon pleasantries and deals in india was the national register of citizens exercise that took place in us um, where basically every citizen was forced to provide documentation to prove they were citizens or else they were declared up, you know, suspect that their citizenship was declared suspect. and the whole campaign are specifically targeted early, linguistic and religious minorities scheme. um,
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so the been goalies in this of muslims was, are of been wally speaking origin where are suspicious as suspected of being bungler, the she and so on. now the problem is that the supreme court itself oversaw that entire exercise which resulted in enormous human rights violations on a scale of on a massive scale. and that is an ongoing irking for which the supreme court's answer is to basically shrug and see it. or, well, you know that the not, the supreme court itself has allowed roygenia refugees in india. what smallest most most are you know if there's a few 1000 of them in india, of these up a steep las community a fleeing myanmar. 1 blared the are having and all right, carol, african can i ideally not allow trig, casper, tennyson, jeremy to sophia india. they have been targeted and he bought it. it finally of his it took us office also lies not saying light of a 110. i was out on the whole,
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i for a moment cavity can hear me out. i promote an officer. she does not see light at the end of the tunnel. she does not see how do you address this dire situation right now the into, if in a you are using the same let me move on up. i'm going to bring him, they cram again with him. i want you to listen to a hindu priest who was arrested earlier this month. he's from utter protection. you know that i have a well because he was director general police that he was arrested for hate speech, hateful behavior. and this is what happened when he came out. this is what he had to say. allison, have a look and then help me if the leadership, if your leaders, if you're holy man, i'm all prejudiced. what do you do about that? he missed the kid pug. luckily, what kind of miguel you would you had out of our deal done. i bought it from
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a deal down. ha ha ha ha ha ha! but at them i don't normally do like a yahoo! i'm like, well, you didn't, i pulled out there. i'm not gonna touch mckinley a guy or done what's happening. my lawyer, guy of in that particular guy are done with it could be got a bit of an, a proud to be talking about them with the young boy, but i thought when i yeah, if you just i don't was up on the most that up. i to go on my opening my login or trulia. look on my nobody my login. i totally got our prism. i got on the bottom of the year when i got there, i got that. i got a day for my daughter miguel you spoke with on ben niggley at the yahoo. com. i would say that this degree of violence in that don't and did not of the person. i would have my own reservations, but that his man is holy or unholy. number one, he is said i prepared to go to jail any number of times i'm prepared to take any number of assaults than the place for him is not the pulpit. the place for him is
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politics. he will be better suited to go into politics. he is certainly not wholly bad, and then dying less than circumstances were decided. hope walker too, is what he has said. and in case i think the police need to run the extra mile and ensure that that is not what a walker should irrespective of who is or during what, even if he happens to be a so called holy man, the place for him is behind bars and his jealousy that he's prepared to walk a multiple times behind the bus, but let the police not disappoint him if he gives the opportunity. all right, so often in this conversation, when we're talking about violence against minorities in india, certainly most recent years, a lot of the responsibility has been laid at the feet of the voting party, the b j. p. and we'll just bring in sat tank gosh, who explains what gay fil is feeling these attacks? and maybe the answer is in politics. if it's not with indian people as have
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a listen, let's have a look by lindsay. the lose lose in india is increasing formerly to it is foster who leverage. i'm up in the all, this is the bottle, the them of the hockey. it's ideology below screen. it's better than i addition, the rest your friends about some or he honestly believes that in the us will become a humiliation for these the other will she into visibly across india. secondly, the once in political parties of albany, the muslims, because they feel that if they become wrong, slim, then, though he moved surely to go down what this msm was, slim supp being discriminated for what deeds for their prisons and even for what the real them was friends at b, u and their house out of been demolished in the broad daylight coverage. i'm just gonna say as a, as a closing saw i redid invite the b j p to be part of that discussion. and they
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decided that they didn't want to be. it's a difficult conversation for them to have. do you understand us as a member of not one of the main parties, but a political party in india? where does that responsibility live for the situation we've been talking about today? is it with the b, j. p. can cavity, hear us? we're having connection issues there. let me move that question along to arthur. oh, well definitely it does lie with them. but my primary question would be that the does the ruling party b, j b? believe an indian constitution any more or not? because the way they are losing the houses of people, the way they are behaving as a very park is on way. even police is the way they are behaving it. it all feels like as if the whole, you know, idea off stablish, the rule of law would be on the government of india on the ruling party. but then the, my primary question here would be, do they believe in indian constitution,
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an art or they are the ones who are breaking the law in broad daylight every political and legal exploit in this country said these, bulldozers and obey police is reacting, you know, at the pretext off of the government is illegal completely legal. the supreme court of india had to intervene in the national capital and stopped the bulldozers from raising the houses of since so b, r at a stage where the ruling party, the government is not even protecting any more. so i am not said he awful because even even a small part of the government does not say that the believe in democracy often constitution any more, i feel bad where i live my hopes, where yeah, i hate to spare offer cavities. vikram. thank you for taking part in this conversation on youtube. some thoughts here. some of our clients feel that this is the beginning of a potential genocide in india, how seriously they are fueling this and fossil says hate politics is on the rise and party empower is playing this card very dangerously. this conversation not over
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