tv Inside Story Al Jazeera April 27, 2022 2:30pm-2:52pm AST
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hello there and welcome to the program and mosque is notorious for trying to silence his critics. the social media takeover sparked this reaction from the white house. what i can tell you as a general matter, no matter who owns or runs twitter, the president has long been concerned about the power of large social media platforms. what they have the power they have over everyday lives. as long argued, the tech platforms must be held accountable for the harms they cause he's been a strong supporter, a fundamental reformed to achieve that goal. including reforms to section 230 and acting anti trust reforms requiring more transparency and more. and he's encouraged that there's bipartisan interest in congress in terms of what hypothetical policies might happen. i'm just not going to speak to that as well off of the purchase. it'll must tweeted yes and said i want to make twitter better than ever by enhancing the products with new features,
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making algorithms open source to increase trust. the facing the spam bolts and authenticating or humans. twitter has tremendous potential. he said, i look forward to working with the company and the community of uses to unlock kits on the move as part, plenty of reaction, both good and bad as well. some people in new york had to say, i just don't think it would be good if he had all my control and just cuz he's a lot of money, doesn't give mar power. i think he'll turn it for the better. houser, or giving people more freedom of speech, maybe bringing my man clock back the twitter. i don't think that that one person should have full control platform. people to have their own voice to be able to see how they feel. he wants to buy or whatever and make it a private company, but it's like, you already got so much money already. awesome with of why are you messing with them? or like i'm on twitter audit hom road. why you've over here bar. would you like to turn on will even if you don't have a twitter account,
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it is unlikely that you've not heard of it. it's been around for 16 years. it's a platform based on the u. s. from micro blogging and social networking services. it's estimated to have more than 436000000 registered users who post and interact using short messages known as tweets. these uses regular people like you and me also, celebrities, organizations, and governments. they use twitter to reach millions of people in our mosque as an avid theresa with an audience of more than 80000000 followers himself. in 2022, it has annual revenue, reached $3720000000.00 us dollars. it's a relatively small amount compared to other giants life like facebook that made more than $84000000000.00 that same year. ah, let's bring in our guests now and joining us from london, we have quinn, mchugh, executive director at article 19 from los angeles. we have ramez, schriner, vasa,
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professor, him information studies at the university of california, and also from london, charles arthur, a journalist, specializing in technology and social media, very warm welcome to all of you, quinn. let's start with you. why has twitter excepted isla masks offer when? just a few days ago, the board unanimously agreed not to let the take over go through. i think maybe some people who are more inclined on business in the charleston speech that relatively well, it's clear that the offer that was ultimately made and exceeded the share price or the presence rate such that it was a very attractive big even after the twitter board or you can tell the toys li, just last week, and any kind of attempts to stay or towards your claim, that was just an offer that was simply too good for twitter to refuse in the end. well, it's interesting to, to, was due to because it's 1st called results this thursday, and it's not going to do this. so some people feel that with the general or slow
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down in the world economy, that maybe things like it's a good actually, this was the best offer actually on the table, was easy for them to refuse the offer initially because most didn't have the financing. then they were hoping that maybe someone else might turn out to have more money when it's less than michelle price was the $50.00, a mascot often is less than the chair processor last year when it was about $80.00, but it's more than it has been so it's the sort of thing where was the best offer around and possibly they didn't see things improving. so yes it's, it's pretty obvious not respect why they took that money, but i have about math. i remish is a loss of money for a business that's been described as wastefully unprofitable. why did it on why is it almost wanted? well 1st of all, even musk loves to get into little, you know, battles and turf wars and little, you know, sort of arm wrestling matches on twitter. he really enjoyed being active on twitter
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. and i also think that it fits within your mac ideological portfolio. if you will, right, we see him owning multiple other types of companies and he's always kind of been this person who likes to be a little bit outlandish in that sort of claims for free speech. and so now he owns a social media wing to his media conglomerate empire. and so for him, it's a major achievement. and twitter, despite not necessarily being profitable, remains extremely influential, especially on media itself, right? reporters all around the world, often source and engage with stories by a twitter or less given the twitter is so influential in society, if it right. but such a powerful tool should be in the hands of just one man. i think it's extremely problematic, actually not for many, many different reasons. first of all, twitter was already encountering huge issues with algorithmically powered dis information. what i mean by that is content was being targeted to people and going
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viral that tended to be hateful, conspiratorial, and really kind of grabbing those people's attention. so that's not the way any sort of media network should function. there should be some baseline of kind of commonality to what people see. it's really problematic even more so because musk himself has boosted quite widely that he's a free speech absolute strain. so what does that mean? that means in any given society, when we talk about free speech, we should have lots of different kinds of speech be part of the platform. but what we found again and again on twitter and mosque is highly unlikely to do anything about it. is that hateful speech or speech that is intended to grab your attention? is the content that ends up going viral again and again. so must have been always against regulation of almost any times and calls himself a free, free speech absolute as, as a private, you know,
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wealthy hyper wealthy person wealthiest person in the world. this, this recipe is a concoction for even greater problems with big tax takeover of all of our lives around the world. and i want to do everything we can to sort of rain in and balance the playing fields a little bit more. that, that's a small aside from that, why is that hate speech so popular on people's news feeds? that's a great question. so the reason why is what is happening with all technology platforms is data is constantly back being gathered about hundreds of other hundreds of billions of people. hundreds of millions of people, excuse me, all around the world. so data around what we look at, how long we look at it, what we tweets, what we comment on, etc. this is all fine grained behavioral data. so based on the data that's been captured about all the time, without us really even being aware of it. content is being suggested based on prediction all based on correlation prediction of what will capture our attention.
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so the business model of the technology or is to keep us all locked in there all the time. and one thing that gets all of our attention no matter who we are, is crazy or outrageous concepts. so unless that is fundamentally intervened with and mosque has given no signals that that's something he really ultimately cares about, which is an instrument of democracy. some baseline of common understanding are problems continue, that can, how much could that be counted by making the algorithms open source exposing them? so the people have more control over what they see because that is also something that mask and said he wants to do. i think we need to be clear what we're talking about when we talk about algorithm transparency, which is something our organization has called for numerous other people have as well they're, they the transparency of what the algorithm is itself. but then there's also
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transparency in terms of how it actually operates, just having the code out there doesn't necessarily tell you about the various things that are going on. so one way of making companies more festival is making more of the code out there for people to look at to evaluate and otherwise. but as, as i mentioned, saying the fundamental problem is the attention economy. and that is what drives the business model of this company and much more successful companies, the twitter, if you look at facebook and youtube, and it's that the fundamental business model is centralized control over what we see and what we do, what we interact with in a few small, powerful companies for charles is what ill mosque is wanting to do with twitter if it realistic means given very few details, new details on how he proposes to reduce censorship. we don't even know if he can sort of expose this algorithm. how would that work? is there something that he's actually going to see happen?
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what he said has been quite contradictory, is talked about things like getting rid of bots, but at the same time being a free speech absolute us, but utter of all free speech. so where's the line there? similarly, you know, are you going to allow terrorist videos? are you going to allow child sexual abuse material? obviously, not for your free speech atlas. absolutism clearly has a line, and the question is, where does it draw the line? and i think that's the complicated part that, that you know, it's very easy to talk about these things, the conferences, but actually when you're running the company, some sort of question, i think that the, the point, the remission cannabis made about the hour was, is interesting. actually, if you were to remove the algorithm that amplifies content with amplifiers outrage, which is the thing that we pay attention to, then you have a sort of a strict back a twitter $1.00, which is much more just about what people are saying rather than things being thrust that you to gain your interest because that's what get advertising in front
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of you. and if twitter doesn't necessarily have to survive on advertising, then it might be able to take on a different sort of character. but he's given no clues about that. he's made vague noises about subscriptions, but then he was to change the character of twitter that way that, that could actually have a big impact. both on that is this information and on the attention economy, is it quinn? describe it, do you think people will still want to use it? so we, ne, as human beings, we do tend to be drawn towards that sort of dramatic speech. if it's not very, if it doesn't exist, what's the point in using it? we won't be entertained at most eventually, but personally, i never see any twitter ads and i don't get the algorithmic twitter feed because i use a 3rd party called tweet book. and it only gets the sort of chronological timeline and now and so in that sense, i'm getting the truth of it. but it used to be a must possibly could be. so, you know, this is totally possible and i use it all the time because i'm
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a journalist as from a sent in a journal. so drawn to it because that's where you find news, where to quickly find sources you find information. when he has said that he would allow the laws of each individual country to govern the free speech or per day or dick determine what free speech is allowed. but how does that work when twitter is a global entity, and there are so many different countries for so many different laws to national norms on freedom of expression, which is at present time, according to our own research, freedom of expression globally, is that it will this level in 20 years like twitter, facebook and others are allowed to do, or that is company or gives government huge control over the kinds of content, whether it's through here a lot of companies do you have local offices in countries which then gets government a form of pressure and influence over what's being done because staff can be held hostage. so the mobile picture becomes much more complex when you take into account
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the different laws. and the fact that actually democracy is it is lewis l in 20 to 30 years. that means it's incredibly complex to find places where that view of freedom of expression is supported, as you may think, it is remish. we have arms, not so not only in their private accumulative profit and valuation driven interest, but in a democratic interest, right. and so here in the united states, sort of high profile, you know, flash points like little controversies, aren't the big tech companies, we should no longer think about big technology companies as simply socialization to record levels. many of those contracts go to technology companies, right? so they've taken over every aspect of our lives by monetizing our attention by grabbing dollars. so we need to think about what people need in their actual interest, right. what a real free speech looks like in balance with a free media, where we really need to think about those issues. so people can be uplifted along
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with these companies as well. and tell us, how concerning do you find it that all of that power that ramesh has just been when you have an incredible concentration of power and the years congress physical server, american companies struggles to find ways to regulate these companies because it's not quite sure what it is that it wants to do or not do it, not to be bad, but it doesn't quite how to do that without a guess. of course that governments use these services themselves. i mean, governments use twitter to release their policies. i mean that's, don't forget that trump was hugely successful, largely on the written right. now. i do remember the very problematic days as you yourself said, recording constantly the tweets coming from donald trump. and at the very moment when it's being found that there was the significance of insurrection planned, an attempt to overthrow us election, orchestrated by donald trump, do want to leave twitter, they can. do you think we will see
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a lot of people leaving the party? it's about 43440000000 as you said, you know, just taking into accounts, apps that are just strictly messenger apps. like, what's that mission to the side? i think charles mentioned that media platforms are constraints, other services will job to, to take their place on a problem and settle, paying the faxes a holier many things are possible. and as we said that there he, he has had successes with building electric vehicle company and hensler billing reusable space on the space. jackson, this is a, this is a different game because this is dealing with huge model for it really in order to make it thrive. and have on the grains of twitter has an almost value, but they can't quite see how to unlock it. advertising clearly isn't the way to do it, but if it was to make it a sort of a backbone, was communications backbone for the world. then you could see that there's an
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enormous value, as you said, you know, took toward leaders to people with huge celebrity followings. or why would they not want to pay a certain amount of money in order to be able to make their voices heard? possibly, that's why food so that you can and effect until what is that potential do you think? well, the potential is for it to be being disposable and indispensable tool for the, the absolute tool that we use to connect with one another. and also just sort of learn about the wider world. the problem is, is the wider world as being presented to us is not an open power. different kinds of business models that perhaps maybe more rooted in a certain kind of humanity. ray, in all of our voices, and i do want to make the point, despite the potential challenges in making the funds to pay off this debt mosque is the wealthiest person in the history of the world. he's a meet a huge amount of wealth during that because the former president was a central note on twitter himself. he was a central note because of his messaging,
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often outrageous and boss contents, which went viral all the time. certainly some interesting times ahead morgan have to say on twitter to see what happens. many thanks for it to you over joining us today. quinn mchugh remish, it should, it should have asked them and tells them and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website this al jazeera dot com. and for further discussion do go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. and yes, we are on twitter. handle is at a j inside story. from me laura kyle and the whole team here in doha is good bye for now. aah!
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